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GSi_PSi
13-10-2008, 12:03 AM
hey im just wonderin if anyone could clarify how to recognise the different gearboxes between DC4 , DC2 and DC2R

I knoe its something to do with S80 number. Im just tryna figure out if i have different gearbox because i had a look at 2 of my friends DC4's and there gearboxes look completely different to mine. Was there an update with the DC4 box range??

GSi_PSi
14-10-2008, 11:21 PM
bumpp this

A-man
17-10-2008, 11:02 PM
what numbers r there?????

i know a s80 would b one...

id assume the type r would b better.. possible diff final drive

ECU-MAN
20-10-2008, 08:01 AM
DCR2 is S80, and should have LSD written on it.

GSi_PSi
20-10-2008, 11:08 AM
my box says s80 but no lsd on it

exodus
21-10-2008, 03:26 AM
my box says s80 but no lsd on it

Correct me if i'm wrong, Aussie DC2 vtir runs on B18c2 and originally y80 gearbox that doesn't comes with LSD...

on the other hand S80 appeared to come with LSD in B18c5 the USDM Version of DC2 type R and S80 without LSD in USDM normal DC2 (GS-R)

If based on your nick you are having a DC4 with B18c7 it could mean that the engine was swapped to an AUDM type R motor but leaving the original Db4 gearbox that runs S80 that doesn't comes with LSD


FYI, AUDM dc2 type R has the same gear box as JDM 98 + spec gearbox which is N3E (LSD). JDM 96+ spec is running on J4D (correct me if ive made a mistake in the codes) with LSD... the difference between the JDM 96 spec and 98 spec is the final gear ratio.
Cheers

VTECMACHINE
21-10-2008, 12:53 PM
I have heard, that the JDM 98+ and AUDM DC2R's have different final gears. Is there any truth to this?

exodus
22-10-2008, 01:52 AM
I have heard, that the JDM 98+ and AUDM DC2R's have different final gears. Is there any truth to this?

If i'm not mistaken they are the same. AUDM Final Gear Ratio is 4.785 which is similar to the JDM 98+Spec R... the only difference between the JDM 98 spec R and the Audm is the engine Horse power... i think Jdm is higher by 10hp and has slightly higher compression..

Lex_EG93
22-01-2009, 08:20 AM
i just bought a type r box. it has the s80 code but does not have a lsd sign on it. . .

have i been jipped?????

bennjamin
22-01-2009, 08:28 AM
my ITR gearbox doesnt have a LSD stamp on it.
Only because i have swapped the outer case. Also chemicals and cleaners can remove the stamp

look thru the diff hole of the gearbox. (where the two driveshafts sit)

can you see thru it?
Or is there a bar across the hole ?



if you can see thru it (all the way thru) it is a LSD gearbox.
If there is a bar across or two smaller half bars ,its a open wheeled gearbox.

Limbo
22-01-2009, 04:19 PM
s80 can be either ITR or vtir.
I've been looking into this also.
As ben said the see if you see straight thru (LSD) if you see gears block non-lsd

Lex_EG93
22-01-2009, 06:56 PM
so LSD is type R and no LSD is vtir ?

bennjamin
22-01-2009, 07:11 PM
basically yes.

Lex_EG93
22-01-2009, 07:30 PM
ok thanks for the help. ill check 2nite wen i get hme from work to see if i got jipped or not. . .

Lex_EG93
22-01-2009, 08:33 PM
this is what i got:

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9863/dsc01768zt7.th.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc01768zt7.jpg)

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/8316/dsc01759hv4.th.jpg (http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc01759hv4.jpg)

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/8264/dsc01765rf4.th.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc01765rf4.jpg)

so i take it its not type R box ?

DLO01
22-01-2009, 08:45 PM
Correct! Its not an ITR box. Does this mean you got jipped?

Lex_EG93
22-01-2009, 08:52 PM
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damm my knuckles are gonna hurt 2moro

Lex_EG93
22-01-2009, 08:53 PM
also how much you think this gbox would go for?

DLO01
22-01-2009, 08:55 PM
I really despise dishonesty. Don't hold back man, let him have it.

GSi_PSi
23-01-2009, 12:23 AM
VTi-R gearbox around 500-800 mark depending on condition
ITR is around 1k-1.5k

Lex_EG93
23-01-2009, 08:11 AM
are there any 4.7 final drive boxes that came with no LSD? or theres no such thing

EG30
24-01-2009, 09:20 PM
are there any 4.7 final drive boxes that came with no LSD? or theres no such thing

4.785 box from factory were off the series 2 dc2r 97/98 on, and all came with factory gear type lsd.

http://www.isitaboat.co.uk/cars/honda_civic_type_r__ek9_/#generalstats

look under engine specs where gearbox types and ratios also listed

onnos
24-01-2009, 09:40 PM
all the below is for jdm boxes ie jap spec cars.

y21 is off a b16a eg 6/9 and came in lsd and non lsd spec. depending on spec level when bought new.

y80 is off 93-95 integra twin round headlights and came in lsd and non lsd depending on the spec level off the car when bought new.

s80 is from face lift integras. in late 95-97 spec type r had a helical lsd

s80 from 98 spec type r on helical lsd with higher final drive ratio

s80 also from face lift integra sir b18c NON lsd

sc4 civic type r lsd

Lex_EG93
02-03-2009, 09:26 PM
ok im back. i just bought an ITR box from honbits and i had the same issue. it has a bar inside the hole. i really need some clarification on this b4 i go back and complain.

i asked the guy who delivered the box what is that bar inside and he sed that it was a seperator or something like that for the driveshafts to fit it. . .

really confused on this

Lex_EG93
04-03-2009, 01:04 AM
does any1 have a pic of the diff hole of an itr box ?

bennjamin
04-03-2009, 06:57 PM
i dont but i know what it looks like - you can see straight thru (the same size as the driveshaft splines)

string
05-03-2009, 11:24 AM
does any1 have a pic of the diff hole of an itr box ?

You have an open diff and a non-ITR box, get on the phone and fix it, NOW!

fatboyz39
08-03-2009, 11:33 AM
does any1 have a pic of the diff hole of an itr box ?

Go back there and tell them off.

Thats not a ITR box.

fabezzz
21-03-2009, 02:47 PM
Just bumping up a old thread but where is the lsd stamp, i cant find mine just a sticker with s80-XXX