Sound setup . .

[CivvyCloud]

Alright atm I have a Sound Magus X1502 Mono Bass 1500 Watt Amplifier
( http://www.soundmagus.com/X1502.html )
and a Dual Kicker CVR Subwoofer 1600w
( http://www.caraudiowarehouse.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=43_44&products_id=173 )

Alright I wanted to know If i have this right..

If i go and get a 2nd Sound magus amp and use each 1 to power 1 sub I will have to get 2 subs that r 1500watt rms each. . wont I?


Also If i have 4 ALPINE 12" TYPE-R SWR-1242D 1500WATT Subs and I have 2 1500watt rms Sound magus amps and i have 2 subs running off each Mono Block wat will happen if I bridge the amps.. Will anything happen?

[TYP32]

Well CivvyCloud, what you have there are 2x800WRMS subs, that can either be 2 or 4 ohms. The SoundMagus amp will run stable at 1ohm pushing a max of 1600WRMS. If your subs are both 2 ohm subs, setup in a mono configuration, you got it balanced. Just make sure you have the ohm ratings of your subs to match your amplifier.

In reguards to the Alpine setup, once again its all down to the load rating of your subs to amps, it would appear that those subs are a 4ohm sub, therefor if you were to bridge the amps running all 4 subs, you would only be running the amps at 2ohms each due to the 4x4ohm subs having a 1ohm load being shared by 2 amplifiers. Also a decent balance, due to the subs being rated at 500WRMS and the amplifier being able to push a claimed 950WRMS at 2ohms (475W/sub).

[CivvyCloud]

Kool thx =D

Now I just gotta find somewhere close to Sunny Coast where I can get a custom boot done up XD any suggestions?

Also I have a 96 Civic EK Hatchback.. Will I be able to fit 4 12" in it or will i have to go 4 10" ??
Otherwise I will probs just go 2 15" 2000watt =D

[arverson]

say goodbye to bootspace. 4 12"s plus amp/s will take all of it but you're probably not concerned about that.

wont be that much difference between box size for 4 12"s or 4 10"s. either way itll take a big chunk of room. ive seen eks hatches with 1 15" & 3 fairly large amps but no bootspace what-so-ever.

oh and id get 2 'better, higher quality subs' over 4 'inferior, cheaper subs'.

2 12"s or 10"s maybe?

good luck

[TYP32]

No probs.

Being a Brissie bloke, im not sure on installers up Sunny Coast, but so far as fitting amounts of subs, 4x12" are possible, it all depends on how wild an install and how much you are willing to part with to have it installed, your perogative mate. Good luck.

oh and i agree with arverson, "2 'better, higher quality subs' over 4 'inferior, cheaper subs'" is the better alternative.

[CivvyCloud]

So u saying no to 4 alpine type R's??
=o

Yeah money isnt a big deal to me haha I just want something that looks and sounds good.
I might just go the 2 subs btw the 2 2000watt subs were http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=130264573290

Alpine Type-R 15" 2000watt =D

U recon I should go 2 of them and get another sound magus 1500watt rms amp and run 1 amp on each sub? cause the alpines put out 750watt rms so i wouldnt be running at full peak but boudle the rms.. is that alright?

[arverson]

you could get 4 type-r's if you want. not our decision. but think of it as "why get 4 good subs, when you can get 2 (or 1) GREAT subs for the same amount".

subs dont 'put out' power, they handle power.

in car audio, always look at the RMS figures. peak/max means, frankly, sh*t-all..

im assuming your willing to lose all bootspace so is your sound-system/car going to be a regular SQ/SPL competitor, a show-car or a daily-driver? are you more concerned about bling & show compared to how it actually sounds? you're gonna have to make the compromise somewhere.

if your willing to fork out the cash for 4 type-r's then theres plenty of other higher quality subs to look at at that pricepoint, guess itll come down to availibilty. just something to think about..

if money is no issue then get 2 monoblocks, "head-room" is always desirable. but having said that, 1 will have more than enough power to get the 2 type-r's plenty loud.

[mr ©harisma]

I'm confused, you want something good looking and that sounds good but want 2x 1600WRMS amps?

What are you running up front?? Bass is only a small component of the overall experience.

[DC5TYPER]

Good luck with the power supply!

3x Optimas sounds right :cool:

[gr33d1]

if money isnt a problem get 2 L7 kickers. one is enough, but hey u got the cash $$$

[CivvyCloud]

I want to eventually have this car as a "show" car BUT i want the sound To be really good/competition quality.. that being said.. My money isnt endless but i dont mind spending a little bit more sorta thing.

What front speakers should I get and also recommended rears? I only plan on running amps for subs and not for speakers..Should I run speakers off amps?? Cause I have found a setup and also should i look at a capaicitor? Hmm the Optimas look alright.

i find with setup atm that wen I crank it up it starts skipping and cutting out.. whys that?

Also r these http://www.auaudio.com/shop06/audio-matrix-series-160cs-p-512.html good Component Speakers>??

So if i get 2 S15L7 kicker subs putting at 1000WRMS then that will make 2000WRMS so running 2 1500WRMS Monoblock Amps on them will be good?


If I run an Amp For the Front Speakers, An Amp for the Rear Speakers and 2 Amps (1 bridged) for the subs what will I have to look at getting to support this?

[arverson]

hopefully a good electrical system consisting of an upgraded battery and wiring

definately get an amp for speakers. no need for a cap. optimas are a good choice for batteries.

music cutting out.. not a very detailed problem so it could be anything from your head unit nearing its end to amps going into protect mode to loose connections.. best to see a specialist to troubleshoot for ya.

those oz audio splits are very good. just ensure you like the sound of them before buying them.

and yes having 2 1500rms amps powering 2 1000rms subs is fine.

maybe give us a rough budget to work with so we can suggest some items (speaker amps, splits, other subs, h.u??, etc) to look at. atm im guessing your budget is $1500ish for subs, 1000ish for splits.. fill us in for the rest.

[CivvyCloud]

Yeah

Atm I am looking at
JBL C608GTi 6" Component Speakers ( 150WRMS / 600W peak )
http://www.ryda.com.au/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=C608GTI&Show=TechSpecs

350WRMS (1000W Max) 6 x 9inch BOSCHMANN 3 Way Speakers
http://performanceshop.com.au/product/350WRMS+(1000W+Max)+6+x+9inch+BOSCHMANN+3+Way+Spea kers/237

KICKER 2500W RMS Solo-X 12 Inch Subwoofer - S12X
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/KICKER-2500W-RMS-Solo-X-12-Inch-Subwoofer-S12X_W0QQitemZ130254596769QQihZ003QQcategoryZ18803 QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262

X1502 Mono Bass 1500 Watt Amplifier
http://www.soundmagus.com/X1502.html

Preferably I would like to spend $800 or less on the front Splits $400 or less on rear (Cause sub will do all the work there) I am gonna stick with the Sound Magus amp cause already got 1 so dont want 2 different ones =P and also if I look at power rear and front speakers with amps i look at getting a new headunit.. cause mine has rear/sub preouts no front preout unless i can hook amp up to the rear preout and power the front amps.. =o
Also with getting all this new stuff u think it good too look at new wiring for it all? cause if so I will just buy it all and send to audio shop like autobarn or JBHIFi to get all cable pulled out and redone and such =D

Thx

also if the selected products are no good then could u recommend good ones for the prices I have given or thereabouts =) thx

[arverson]

wiring upgrade depends on what you have atm.. wouldnt hurt to do it anyway

without knowing what stores you're gonna visit, what prices & packages they have on offer, how good your haggling is, what online stores you're gonna visit & ultimately what items are available to dealers near you.. its gonna be hard to suggest any gear.

pop into your nearest specialist, tell em your budget & see what they have for you. and if you're intending to buy online like above, ask if they'll install gear purchased from other places too. most places do, some dont.

i still recommend getting an amp for speaker duties too. it wont matter if they're from different brands. no point spending that much on splits only to restrict their potential. hell id even say take $200 from your rear speaker budget and invest that into SD'ing, more into the fronts or into an amp.

[CivvyCloud]

So another amp the 2500wrms sub , optima battery, better wiring and splits with amp . .?

[arverson]

yes...

[CivvyCloud]

Mate suggested a capacitor.. this needed?

[arverson]

it wont be needed if your electrical system is up-to-scratch.

use the cap money to get thicker gauge wiring.

if you're still after a show-car then go'head and get the cap for the extra bling factor

[CivvyCloud]

Alright I been looking it up and I think this is right

The big 3 operation on car with 0AWG wires
1 Stronger Alternator
2 1500WRMS Amps (3000WRMS)
1 2500WRMS Sub
2 0 AWG 1500Watt Amp Wiring Kits
A rewiring of all speaker cables to better ones
3 Kinetik / Optima Batteries (Parallel'd)
2 2 Farad Capacitors
1 pair of 150WRMS / 175WRMS Front Splits
1 200WRMS Amp (for front Splits)

That sound right ?? haha

Also should I bridge the amps for the subs or run 1 off the rear Preout ??
and also 3 batteries too much? I just figured 1 for the bonnet and 2 in the rear with 1 amp running off each ??
and have the front amp run off bonnet battery because it is weaker =D

Also suggestions for a stronger alternator?

if any of this is wrong please correct me =D

[arverson]

3 batteries & 2 caps sounds like overkill.. just 1 decent battery should be sufficient enough.

since money's no issue its up to you tho.

[CivvyCloud]

How would i run 3 amps off 1 battery though =o

So u saying 1 Optima battery is enough to power 2 1500WRMS amps and a 200WRMS ??

also Kinetic or Optima if I am going 1? ?

[arverson]

sorry been busy with work

anyway to answer your question i have 2 words: distro block

[DC5TYPER]

How would i run 3 amps off 1 battery though =o

So u saying 1 Optima battery is enough to power 2 1500WRMS amps and a 200WRMS ??

also Kinetic or Optima if I am going 1? ?

Get 3 Optima's D34 or bigger D31.

Ill be putting in Dual D31's and a D34 to run 3000W RMS at a 2ohm load.

RC ratings.

D34 100Amps
D31 150Amps

[CivvyCloud]

So i will need a 2nd alternator for the 3 batteries will i?

[DC5TYPER]

So i will need a 2nd alternator for the 3 batteries will i?

Having 2 smaller or 1 really big alternator is really the same thing. If you need a really big alternator, look into Bosch products. I'm considering buy a big one as well.

I know someone at Bosch and I'm able to get these cheaper. PM me if your interested.

[DC5TYPER]

3 batteries & 2 caps sounds like overkill.. just 1 decent battery should be sufficient enough.

since money's no issue its up to you tho.

For that amount of power its not overkill. This should be enough power so that you don't get a lot of voltage drop which makes you lights dim.

Ill be running close to 3000W RMS as well in the very nearly future. Currently running 1300W rms with 0 Ga wiring, Optima red top etc. And even at this power the battery drops to 11-12 volts. After a few minutes. Ive tested Yellow top D34 and this is only a bit better. Multiple Batteries and caps are needed so we can listen to music at a prolong time.

[CivvyCloud]

So does this look right ??

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/1684/complexzc5.jpg

[CivvyCloud]

2 Amps used for Front and Rear Speakers are
195 Watts RMS Bridged Channel @ 4 ohms
Front splits are 120wrms - 360wPEAK
Rear Speakers 110wrms - 330wPEAK
POWERED by an Optima D51 Yellow Top

2 Sub Amps are
1500WRMS Monoblock Amps (Bridged = 3000WRMS)
2500wrms Solo X Kicker 12" Sub
2 2Farad Capacitors
POWERED by an Optima D31 Yellow Top

Thats what i am gonna have =D tell me if anytihng wrong or waht I shouldnt do and such.. Thanks ^.^

[DC5TYPER]

Dude that looks so complicated

HEHE :D

[CivvyCloud]

ha yeah does a bit aye XD :p