Integra 99 gsi with honda 93 civic engine

[andrew_jms]

Hey guys,
I am new to the whole car scene! I recently bought a 99 integra GSI and i understood it had a replacment engine in it but after a closer look it appears to have a 93 civic motor in it.....

So whats the specs of the 93' civic it surely couldn't be upto the tegra specs?

thanks in advance.

Cheers,

Andy

[m3ntAL_l2]

civc is 1.6litre... teg is 1.8l..... whats the enegin code on ur engine???

[trism]

a 93 civic would be a D series engine no?

[bennjamin]

the op thinks the engine is the Si engine , DOHC 1.6 d16a8. Why ? because the cam over looks almost exactly the same as the gsi integra engine - b18a or b18b.

[trism]

loooooooooooooooool

[andrew_jms]

The engine number itself is NSK BKR6E-11 it has written on it in marker (from the wreckers?) ZC, i see a carby.... goodbye EFI?

I ve only owned a VN commodore before this so its a bit diffrent.

thanks for your help guys.

think i might just throw a vtec in there :p

[JamB]

is it illeagal to put an replace an engine thats older than the car

[trism]

doesnt sound like an engine number
'

it should start with b18b

[bennjamin]

The engine number itself is NSK BKR6E-11 it has written on it in marker (from the wreckers?) ZC, i see a carby.... goodbye EFI?

I ve only owned a VN commodore before this so its a bit diffrent.

thanks for your help guys.

think i might just throw a vtec in there :p


lol

you are reading the wrong thing....that is the SPARK PLUG NUMBER.
ZC = d16a8 = efi.
i dont think you are looking correctly.

[andrew_jms]

This might help its a lil dark cheers

http://sparkefilms.com/images/01112008125.jpg

http://sparkefilms.com/images/01112008127.jpg

http://sparkefilms.com/images/01112008128.jpg

[bennjamin]

i simply dont believe that engine is in a 99 integra. That is yes carby. That is illegal to be in your car

[[ricer]]

no fkn way thats in ur car?

[niiCk]

.. thats a d15 twin carby. yeah i dont believe that, thats in your integra as well:S

[andrew_jms]

Wow... that sucks ... i guess this voids my new insurance !
no wonder why it was tough geting a bit of power out of it....:thumbdwn:

any suggestions?

i paid $9500 ... guess i got ripped of... should of taken one of you guys with me.

[An41]

oh god this is worst than mwaku, you got done hard. was it a private sale or through a dealer

[dbn]

your engine number is located here:
http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee322/dmale69/01112008125.jpg

please do tell us what it says!!!

[An41]

doesnt matter,that is simply not a gsi motor

[niiCk]

its a d15b i usetoo have one.
Its not even a 'ZC' like what it says on the rocker cover.

[bennjamin]

whats bizarre....s the amount of work put into this car to get the carby engine to work. wiring....fuel tank etc all changed. are you sure its not a civic with integra body parts ?

[dbn]

i want a pic from a bit further out so we can see the car and engine,

but to me it does look like the twin carb d15b..

[andrew_jms]

Yeah private sale .... I am just another poor young basterd that fell for it.....
funny thing is i took it for an under car service to auto leaders about 3 weeks ago and they never mentioned a thing!

[An41]

i really want to see a full photo of the car with engine bay pic,it just too hard to believe
I would probably jump off the gap right about now

[dbn]

pic of car and engine, or i dont believe....lol....

it seems more trouble than its worth to put that motor in an integra..

[EG30]

I can see a personal import comp plate near the battery on the firewall.

are you sure it's a '99 build car or imported and complianced in aust in '99?

[andrew_jms]

http://sparkefilms.com/images/teg.jpg

http://sparkefilms.com/images/teg2.jpg

http://sparkefilms.com/images/teg3.jpg

http://sparkefilms.com/images/teg4.jpg

http://sparkefilms.com/images/teg5.jpg

[geeang]

1/ Your pictures are far too big and they're plain horrible
2/ I see a DC2 so I can believe that it's a 99' GSI
3/ You got OOOOOWWWWWNNNNEEEEEDDDDD!!

[trism]

holy shit wtf


1. resize the pics

2. yes, thats a teg

what the ****

dude

you need to do something about it

that is so wrong

[dbn]

wow...ok...you were for real..

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

This is worthy of a thread in the lounge...

This = Illegal (+downgrading to carby = bad)

EFG shall visit you soon to shake your hand

[trism]

how long have you had it?

you need to do something about it

whoever you bought it off needs to be rreamed hard for this

[An41]

maybe not so strange?lol
http://www.ridhaa.com/auto/japan/HONDA/Integra+ZX/1015/car-auctions-details.html

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

mmm this just got interesting

a true DC1 in aus?

I didn't think we had them

[trism]

o wow

import??

thats gotta be illegal

[trism]

if you paid 9500 for that

you got massivle y ripped

[dbn]

hmm...well...at least its quite unique...

[niiCk]

ooo.. yeah its a dc1:s seems like its not a downgraded engine..
still :S

[dbn]

mmm..so its an integra ZX.....not a GSi.....

[andrew_jms]

Ah had it since early september .... well thanks for uncovering the truth even upsetting and disapointing it maybe.. man a feel like a dumb ass.... i guess ill just have to live with it ... how much would it cost roughly to un**** the ****ups?

cheers

andy

[trism]

there is no **** up

thats how it came stock from factory

but if you were sold it as a gsi, then thats farked, and you need to take it too fair trading, or take it back to who you bought it off

[andrew_jms]

Yeah it was sold as a GSI but i found it online didnt save the page, The prevouis owner has moved overseas(as they do!#%$!) so iam stuck with a piss weak integra which by the way the break master cyclinder is leaking so if anyone has a spair iam good for it $ and Gullible ! :p

So should i cancel the insurance considering it wouldnt be coverd anyway and amii doesnt have ZX in the option list?

[dbn]

give em a ring and explain first..

[MWAKU]

bro wat the fuk!? u got fuked harder then me

hurt to find out my old eg was carby

to find out your integra is a carby, zz

feel sorry 4 you man, goodluck w/e you do!

i say sell it (maybe find some who likes something unique, or someone foolish to pay it around :O).. find yourself a proper integra, not some unknown carbyteg.

man, cost of carb -> efi + engine

well im just assuming it would be similar to an EG, but that would say, if u got urself a b18b (stock GSI engine) would be around 4-5k for engine, 1-2k for labour (+0.5-1k for carb -> efi with everything u needed from the half cut)

but yeah, if u find urself a vtec half cut, looking at a b18c2 (vtir engine) total probably 6-7k man

so imo, just sell it (rougly same price as u got it if u can) n find another teg

[trism]

dont even bother


youre still the original EFG

[MWAKU]

whats EFG

[trism]

epic fail guy

[MWAKU]

siffff why are you still in noob section !

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

OP delete that post IMMEDIATELY!!!

[trism]

slightly offtopic do i wrap it around a tree now or not?

lol no


did you get sold it undetr te impression of it being a gsi?

coz if you did, you can go to fair trading department

[touge-time]

He didn't put it in there, and he didn't know about this model. Agreed that he should possibly have done some more research, but no need to give him shit.

I feel bad for you man.

[MWAKU]

can he ? i doubt so, i think only time u can is when u go buy it from a dealer

if its privately i don't think he can, since you have no cover from buying it privately

even when i bought my carb eg from the dealer, i took it to fair trading, and they go, take it back and nego for a better price.. only couple hundred difference.. other then that nothing else, cause they go, it was a computer error, typed the wrong model

[touge-time]

slightly offtopic do i wrap it around a tree now or not?

WAT:zip:

[kenske]

i feel sorry for ya man, but i reckon you should still seek some advice on what to do with it, even legal advice from a solicitor or sumfin.

it sorta reminds me of an episode of top gear UK version where the boys buy cheap cars in USA and travel in them from one side of the country to another. long story short they ended up in new orleans and gave their cars away to people there and jeremy gave it to a guy stating that it was a certain model car. and apparently the guy checked it out and found that it was a different year model and sued him for damages/compensation.

so regardless of whether the guy is o/s or not doesnt matter as long as u still have some of the guys details maybe? and maybe he just said that to put u off finding him? i dunno if u have a case or not but id be doin anything and everything to get your money back (unless you find someone that likes unique cars and would pay more than $9500 for it)

but yeah g/l with what happens

[geeang]

Interesting, an imported DC1..........$9000 for a DC2 w/ D-series though....HAHAHA

[andrew_jms]

WAT:zip:

sorry mate just joking but i have to vent... as iam still paying the car off at $67 a week for the next 4 years its a bit of a punch in the knackers :(

[dbn]

omg...$9.5k and finance?

im feeling ur pain brother...

but next time, please research!!

[Q_ball]

From looks of things, your car is sporting a pre face lifted front bar, meaning its prolly NOT a 99 model integra either...
Prefacelift meaning something that is pre 1997 - prefacelift integras typically being 93-97.

Unlucky son... you got conned hard.

[touge-time]

sorry mate just joking but i have to vent... as iam still paying the car off at $67 a week for the next 4 years its a bit of a punch in the knackers :(

yeah man, I would feel so bad if I were in your position, prob remove that post though mate, just in case.

[andrew_jms]

And heres the car when it was first advertised

http://sparkefilms.com/images/teg_port.jpg

[krzy]

ehy man it doesnt look bad at all, it can still look fkn hot :) dont get too upset

[baeshin]

lmfao GEE GEE

for 9.5k should of least pushed to get a dc2

but yeh i see why u bought it.. guess it looked alright from outside .. tough lesson

[squish85]

omg !!.. first time seeing a carby in a DC2... Hard to believe that they actually made a Carby DC from factory

[EK57SY]

dammmmm bro.. unlucky..

but yeah false advertising on the seller's part.. if he goes 99 GSI..

sue his asss!!!

[geeang]

And heres the car when it was first advertised

http://sparkefilms.com/images/teg_port.jpg

That's definately not a '99 that he sold you, that's '96 or less since it's prefacelift.

[d15z1SUX]

y don't u convert it to b18b or b20b or sumthing if you r gonna keep it. im pretty sure the b18b's and b20b's are cheap as chips.

[dtrang]

lol shit owned :O but gl w/e you do

[andrew_jms]

y don't u convert it to b18b or b20b or sumthing if you r gonna keep it. im pretty sure the b18b's and b20b's are cheap as chips.


Hmm not a bad idea how much work/money would this take?

Could you point me in the right direction?

How would i find out the exact year of build ? As it even had 1999 on the regerstration cert.

[googed]

hmmm prefacelift, no side mouldings, diff headrests

defnately not a 99 model, musta been a possible si integra.
but.. with that engine seriously, what dodgey guys

hope everything works out with ya man :(

[trism]

hmmm prefacelift, no side mouldings, diff headrests

defnately not a 99 model, musta been a possible si integra.
but.. with that engine seriously, what dodgey guys

hope everything works out with ya man :(

****ing dickwads reply and dont even read the thread

its dc1

japanese model

comes carby from teh factory

nothing dodgy excpet for how it got imported and it being sold as a 99 gsi

[andrew_jms]

http://english.auto.vl.ru/catalog/honda/integra/1993_5/11868/

I think its a 1993

[trism]

should have the4 build date written on it

[An41]

last thing i would be worried about is the build date,doesnt change the fact that its a twin carb DC1. Feel horrible for you dude, still young and put that amount of money into a dud but we all learn from our mistakes :)

[putang]

dc1 or dc4 you still got mcfuken owned brother.

not much you can do with it now but cop it on the chin.

lol try to sell it as a dc2r and hopefully a dumb shit like you comes along and buys it wihtout you lsoing too much
LOL
goodluck with it mate

lol sell it to mwaku

LOL! PWNED

[dupac->]

mcfuken owned is pretty right..

a lesson to be learnt. couldnt agree more with putang

lol..

cut ur losses and get a different car dude.

[rawr]

LMFAO dude that's ****en owned, i own a '89 model car and i have efi :) wooh!

dude seriously, sell it and cut your losses!

[aowwllan]

2 letters

G FOCKING G

i agree with dumapac-> and rawr

[migoreng]

got clear pictures?

[d15z1SUX]

Hmm not a bad idea how much work/money would this take?

Could you point me in the right direction?

How would i find out the exact year of build ? As it even had 1999 on the regerstration cert.

hrmm not too sure as im in perth so wouldn't know where u would go to do that where u are.

[andrew_jms]

http://www.tradingpost.com.au/Automotive/Wheels-Tyres-Parts-Accessories/Engines-Transmissions/AdNumber=W977240357436?CRDealerID=rrgKoQwkVTcAAAEa 1j4g3xbV&HotlistView=true
Somthing like this?

[VTECMACHINE]

HAHAHHHAHAH OMFG! This is sooo funny. LOL LOL! hahahahahahahahahahaha. sorry, but it is really just THAT funny.

Well at least it's unique. Just get the plates SL0-T3G

[tseesinngwailo]

Its a sad fact that you didnt get what you paid for, but everyone shouldnt be hassling you so much (maybe engine swap help would be more appreciated) , best thing is to look for a wrecked dc2 and get the engine and box out of it. at $9500, you are not gonna get this back easily, so maybe just look at selling your box and engine, then doing the conversion, to keep things cheap, forget the whole VTEC Yo thing, it will only add $3000 more than you probably have. Cheers, Tseesinn

[Raztaz]

Well at least it's unique. Just get the plates SL0-T3G
lollll, gg
engine swap nao.
Has he (the seller) REALLY gone o/s? hunt him down, im sure you'd have his mob. no from the sale

[4age8u]

twin carb of an eg4 civic

[mrwillz]

nothing wrong with the car
he got exactly a dc1 just no the facelift part

[z3lda]

1993 integra dc1 rebirthed with the history from a 1999 gsi

dc1's are common in japan.

here's another dc1 that is local to melb.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/z3lda/carbyteg.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/z3lda/carbyteg.jpg)


ozhonda nubs.. sheeshh :rolleyes:

[z3lda]

And heres the car when it was first advertised

http://sparkefilms.com/images/teg_port.jpg

def jap import.

no side moldings
visors
prefacelift side mirrors



again lol @ all the ozhonda nubs

[94dc2tegz]

where u located?

wow u paid 9.5K? and u say ur poor? u can get way cheaper real GSi's for that?

it's painfully clear that u didn't shop around nor do ur research but relax dude.

stop emoing out and thinking of wrapping it around a tree like a fool.

welcome to the world of modifications - look at least ur chassis is straight and true.

later down the track u can do engine swaps easy with the help of a good mechanic

who cares what year it was made, u can swap virtually anything ie make it look like a facelift model or stick on ITR parts to make it handle much better even if it doesn't have the grunt at he moment.

anyway, do some reading and find out what a 'real' integra is and what other people usual do. since u can't really slap on b-series engine parts like everyone else it's probably best for u to start upgrading ur suspension and get a really well handling car that'll make driving it much more enjoyable. and do something about the engine later - perhaps a ls/vtec or b20.

if u have no idea what they are then search them up. u may find hope there. anyway, good luck =)

[Chi]

LOL @ this thread.

fcking nubs, jdm model dc integras came in a carby model.

That car is legit, but to the original poster you paid way too much for it lol.


http://hondaswap.com/integra/swapping-b16a-into-zc-carbd-93-integra-77416/

http://www.honda.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=1230920

http://www.partsworld.co.nz/parts/honda/integra/2211-dc1/


Good to see some long time Ozhonda Mods are clueless as ever.

GGKKTHXBYE

[obsessionz]

I feel sorry for you man I really do... next time take someone with you and do heaps of research before you buy.. this is making me upset ... Big learning curve for you...

[chunky]

looooooooooooooooool
we all make mistakes
research like crazy first before buying a car man

[panda[cRx]]

lol @ chi

saw one of these in japan, didn't know any were in aust though

[MWAKU]

where u located?

wow u paid 9.5K? and u say ur poor? u can get way cheaper real GSi's for that?

it's painfully clear that u didn't shop around nor do ur research but relax dude.

stop emoing out and thinking of wrapping it around a tree like a fool.

welcome to the world of modifications - look at least ur chassis is straight and true.

later down the track u can do engine swaps easy with the help of a good mechanic

who cares what year it was made, u can swap virtually anything ie make it look like a facelift model or stick on ITR parts to make it handle much better even if it doesn't have the grunt at he moment.

anyway, do some reading and find out what a 'real' integra is and what other people usual do. since u can't really slap on b-series engine parts like everyone else it's probably best for u to start upgrading ur suspension and get a really well handling car that'll make driving it much more enjoyable. and do something about the engine later - perhaps a ls/vtec or b20.

if u have no idea what they are then search them up. u may find hope there. anyway, good luck =)


Its on finance if you didn't read.

Man **** that if ur on finance, better find some way to pay all that off and sell the car quickly. though yeah, you could probably drop the car, and hope that brings some buyers when ur selling. GL

[90LAN]

u still have the rwc what does it say on there ?
if it says gsi u can sue them for giving u a dodgy rwc for the wrong model car
mite have a leg to stand on
worth a shot
other than that just crash the car and write it off and get a pay out so u can get a decent teg this time

[G-Stick]

u still have the rwc what does it say on there ?
if it says gsi u can sue them for giving u a dodgy rwc for the wrong model car
mite have a leg to stand on
worth a shot
other than that just crash the car and write it off and get a pay out so u can get a decent teg this time

i second that last bit :D, shoulda gotten my gsi shipped over there :thumbsup:

[geeang]

Well he can't really sue since the seller has long since gone overseas, so unless he can somehow have the seller extradited, he doesn't have many options besides selling the car or keeping it.

[G-Stick]

maybe the seller genuinely thought it was a 99gsi? alot of ppl who sell cars dont know anything about them

[dbn]

man, the seller sounds like a seller that was looking for a buyer that was like the buyer....clueless...

when a seller says they are going overseas it is usually a load of BS....everyone knows that....

bet u the bloke that sold the car had a laugh about it with his mates...

...now, i dont condone what the seller has done, but please, when buying a car do the research!!!

[90LAN]

Well he can't really sue since the seller has long since gone overseas, so unless he can somehow have the seller extradited, he doesn't have many options besides selling the car or keeping it.

u can sue the rwc ppl thast who i was talkign about not the seller
it is a legal document

[d15z1SUX]

i think this calls for a conversion... turn this negative into a positive :)

[dupac->]

lol its still a negative..
9.5k nugget + 5k or more for conversion = fail


probs got nice fat drums at the rear

[d15z1SUX]

hrmm... its not about the money...

well what else is he gonna do? he can't sell it for 9.5k anyway...

[dupac->]

lol if he didnt make this thread he could of...?

haha but yeah im just being a negative bitch...

do what makes u happy.. just make sure when u do a conversion.. research before u jump in the deep end

[aowwllan]

man just think of it this way, its like being born with a vagina like my friend harold (est1989) (carby motor) just get a penis sewed on like those ping pong shemales in thailand ( b series )

easy.

lol but yeah dude,

like what 94dc2tegz, youve only had the car for a few days.. give it time. learn from ur mistakes

gives u a chance to upgrade to a more mental motor, i'd say go the b16/b20
all u need is the papers like my good friend dupac who earns his money from cantebury road working as a man whore.

or collecting loose change which drop from the drains to the sewers like my "turtle like" friend albert OOWWWWWLLLL RYYYYYTTEE... (xtat1k)

[94dc2tegz]

Its on finance if you didn't read.

Yes I did happen to read but you didn't get my point.

I meant that if he was on a budget then clearly he should have shopped around for a cheaper model and over here in Melb they go down to around about 6.7K for GSi just on carsales. Hell you could get a crappy VTiR for cheaper at around about 7K - the only way people can justify buying a more expensive example of the same car is because it's in a better condition but the buyer obviously had no clue and unfortunately made the wrong choice as to what he imagined he had purchased.

So yes, the only way now is up and make some simple changes to the car since it's still a DC2 like everyone else it just doesn't have a B18C engine. Focus on the good and it'll get there.

Sure someone else could say stuff it, it's a waste of money. Just drive it as a A --> B car because it still moves, it's still a car right? He should be happy with it and just learn from his mistake.

But if he wants a 'fast' car or a well balanced car then he should have an idea that it won't be cheap either way and most probably will be getting rid of the OEM parts anyway and replacing them with better ones so no big deal. All the people who are feeding him guilt and negativity aren't wrong in thinking that. But it's just a lazy way to go about things and your probably going to cut it as a loss anyway so why not spend money making it better rather than ship it off to some other unfortunate fella for next to nothing and have nothing in the end.

To be honest, I'd rather spend a bit more and have a good car than just have a good 'how i got owned' story that i can tell my mates about later. In the end of the day as long as the car still runs the only mistake he made was pay too much for something that isn't worth as much. We all do it. Sh!t happens. Make the most of it. Can't think of anymore cliches. The end.

[G-Stick]

he paid 9k because he thought he was gettting a 99 model, just take it and move on, i know heaps of ppl that get jibbed wen buying cars and theres nothing *legal* you can really do about it.

i reckon you just should save another 10 k and get a whole jdm dc2r and transfer everything over :D.. so in theory you got a dc2r for about 20k which isnt too bad.

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

LOL Du dont be such a negative Nancy :p

[b4dnuf]

Dude sorry to hear man.
like people have stated learn from your mistake and move on.
in the end it is still a teg so maybe u can slowly start doing her up.
eventually do an engine swap. if ur looking at that engine in Eight mile Plains Thats in QLD. There's some people in QLD that can do an engine swap for ya.

[I heart the SSS]

If people say your cars carby, just say "atleast it's jdm"

[G-Stick]

If people say your cars carby, just say "atleast it's jdm"

thats just going too farr lol

[Tap.Ris]

u still have the rwc what does it say on there ?
if it says gsi u can sue them for giving u a dodgy rwc for the wrong model car
mite have a leg to stand on
worth a shot
other than that just crash the car and write it off and get a pay out so u can get a decent teg this time

i second that hey. the only way to get back the cash is to find a way to write it off. Get someone to drive it interstate and report loss! lol dun quote me. but that car looks pretty decent from the picture.

[soongster]

or u can just trace the name and stuff from DPI from records of the previous owner? or is this not possible?

[I heart the SSS]

thats just going too farr lol

meh he's copping shit for being a clueless bugger, i feel for him.

But hey, atleast his cars a genuine JDM item!

true or fasle...

[G-Stick]

ok... its truee...... lol

[T-onedc2]

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