JDM Accord Wagon CM2 Turbo vs. NA

[enkay]

stolen from tsx forums.
cheers to otesrepsaj
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they use greddy emanage and v manage on the n/a model hmm

[tony1234]

Mmmm,turbo

[hooyn]

bolt on turbozzzz

[dtrang]

? is the NA more powerful?

[panda[cRx]]

could have just bought a legnum or stagea?

[chunky]

NA is best!!

[George euro]

do u know how much a turbo kit is for a euro im considering turboing my euro soon

[aaronng]

LOL, looks like with the turbo, the car made almost the same power as stock!??! 167.3ps is about 124kW.LOL

[zaqmlp]

Arrong, now you know why I need a T28 instead of T25 lol

By the way, if you want more info, that kit on that book is the RB1 odyssey turbo kit from HKS, which is the one I am getting! And if you looking at the HKS manuals, this kit installed onto RB1/2 only gives extra 21ps (from 194ps -> 217ps), but it pulls out a lot more torque (From 211Nm -> 295Nm) AND the torque peak rev lowered as well (from 4200rpm -> 3100rpm) , so this kit is more like a torque improvement kit! I suppose torque is what we need for our car, especially out of corners on tracks!

Arrong, My turbo kit is on its way! coming by air soon... should arrive latest end of next week~ *grin* :p

Anyway, as soon as the kit arrives, i will create a thread and post some pics of the kit~

[ndeuro_]

are u chucking that kit on a euro? if so pm me with price :D

[zaqmlp]

yes, that kit on the book with a bigger turbo... price i can't tell you yet, because its a development project atm, keep your eyes on the forum, I will be creating a thread for this turbo kit, and as soon as its completed, I will release things further~

I will be soon many people in this forum would be interested to see~ :D

[ndeuro_]

what about engine management. just piggy back or what

[zaqmlp]

The kit itself comes with Fcon IS, or you can consider using e-manage ultimate

[040501912]

eem..

how come the hp number so low? =.=

i guess u can bump the boost up :p ahahaha...

[johnprocter]

Arrong, now you know why I need a T28 instead of T25 lol

By the way, if you want more info, that kit on that book is the RB1 odyssey turbo kit from HKS, which is the one I am getting! And if you looking at the HKS manuals, this kit installed onto RB1/2 only gives extra 21ps (from 194ps -> 217ps), but it pulls out a lot more torque (From 211Nm -> 295Nm) AND the torque peak rev lowered as well (from 4200rpm -> 3100rpm) , so this kit is more like a torque improvement kit! I suppose torque is what we need for our car, especially out of corners on tracks!

Arrong, My turbo kit is on its way! coming by air soon... should arrive latest end of next week~ *grin* :p

Anyway, as soon as the kit arrives, i will create a thread and post some pics of the kit~

What year euro do you have? is it this kit? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HKS-TURBO-KIT-NEW-F22B-ODYSSEY-ACCORD-PRELUDE-HONDA-RA1_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c39Q3a1 Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2e c0Q2em14QQhashZitem320308280037QQitemZ320308280037

[aaronng]

Arrong, now you know why I need a T28 instead of T25 lol

By the way, if you want more info, that kit on that book is the RB1 odyssey turbo kit from HKS, which is the one I am getting! And if you looking at the HKS manuals, this kit installed onto RB1/2 only gives extra 21ps (from 194ps -> 217ps), but it pulls out a lot more torque (From 211Nm -> 295Nm) AND the torque peak rev lowered as well (from 4200rpm -> 3100rpm) , so this kit is more like a torque improvement kit! I suppose torque is what we need for our car, especially out of corners on tracks!

Arrong, My turbo kit is on its way! coming by air soon... should arrive latest end of next week~ *grin* :p

Anyway, as soon as the kit arrives, i will create a thread and post some pics of the kit~
Yes, keep us updated! You might be the first turbo Euro in Australia!

[tron07]

looks like pages from Option Magazine

[aaronng]

What year euro do you have? is it this kit? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HKS-TURBO-KIT-NEW-F22B-ODYSSEY-ACCORD-PRELUDE-HONDA-RA1_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c39Q3a1 Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2e c0Q2em14QQhashZitem320308280037QQitemZ320308280037

Nope, the kit in that ebay link is for F22B engines.

[enkay]

looks like pages from Option Magazine
haha yep it is indeed, i didnt copy the 1st pic which was the front page of the option mag

[Euro08Jaz]

it looks like the kits designed for stock internals, more of a torque supplement than anything else.

[xanctus]

I used to have wagon CL9, but for some reason never fond of the rear end...but practicality is awesome!

[viper8548]

How come the turbo dyno only went up to about 6200 RPM?

[zaqmlp]

The second graph is the turbo kit on an odyssey, not on a CM2

[johnprocter]

The kit itself comes with Fcon IS, or you can consider using e-manage ultimate

hows your turbo project going??

[The X Man]

Will you still need to put a spacer in between the head and block to lower compression for this bolt on kit?

It doesn't sound like it's just a "bolt on kit" to me or else everyone would be doing it.

[zaqmlp]

hows your turbo project going??

Everything is almost set other then getting a bigger turbo :cool:
But i have to wait until i sold the turbo that came with the kit before i have money to buy a bigger turbo :o

well.... pray for someone to buy my turbo NOW >.<

[zaqmlp]

Will you still need to put a spacer in between the head and block to lower compression for this bolt on kit?

It doesn't sound like it's just a "bolt on kit" to me or else everyone would be doing it.

Our project will not lower the compression, at least for now :)

the stock internal should be tough enough to run about 0.3-0.4 bar of a 380ps turbo, well at least we hope it is tough enough ^^

and yes, its not as easy as saying its a "bolt on kit", because modifications have to be made. Once we get our hands on it, we will know something is not gonna fit! haha~

At this stage, we only know there is a minor sanding needs to be done.

[johnprocter]

Our project will not lower the compression, at least for now :)

the stock internal should be tough enough to run about 0.3-0.4 bar of a 380ps turbo, well at least we hope it is tough enough ^^

and yes, its not as easy as saying its a "bolt on kit", because modifications have to be made. Once we get our hands on it, we will know something is not gonna fit! haha~

At this stage, we only know there is a minor sanding needs to be done.

Any updates man?? I'm really keen to know how it goes

[zaqmlp]

Yea its taking a while unfortunately.

We are kind of busy these days. It will be pretty soon. I can't wait until its done too :cool:


Any updates man?? I'm really keen to know how it goes

[johnprocter]

Are there alot of modifications which need to be made ??

[zaqmlp]

There will difinitely some modifications needs to be done, but what exactly we won't know until we get our hands on it, and also since we are upgrading the turbo, there might be a chance that the turbo does not fit in the space. We will know ^^

[johnprocter]

would this kit fit the euro without too much modification? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/485hp-Turbo-Kit-K20-K20Z1-K20Z2-K20Z3-K20Z4-Acura-Honda_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el111 6QQitemZ350150074233QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPa rtsQ5fAccessories

it says it will fit honda accord euro's cl9... haven't seen this kit before

[tony1234]

would this kit fit the euro without too much modification? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/485hp-Turbo-Kit-K20-K20Z1-K20Z2-K20Z3-K20Z4-Acura-Honda_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el111 6QQitemZ350150074233QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPa rtsQ5fAccessories

it says it will fit honda accord euro's cl9... haven't seen this kit before
Seems like it'll work but what about engine management?

[EUR003act]

would this kit fit the euro without too much modification? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/485hp-Turbo-Kit-K20-K20Z1-K20Z2-K20Z3-K20Z4-Acura-Honda_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el111 6QQitemZ350150074233QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPa rtsQ5fAccessories

it says it will fit honda accord euro's cl9... haven't seen this kit before

yeah you could make it fit... youd need custom exhaust and aftermarket ecu, possibly kpro or greddy ultimate...

on stock motor youd maybe make 250-300whp... mmmmmm nice

[aaronng]

would this kit fit the euro without too much modification? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/485hp-Turbo-Kit-K20-K20Z1-K20Z2-K20Z3-K20Z4-Acura-Honda_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el111 6QQitemZ350150074233QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPa rtsQ5fAccessories

it says it will fit honda accord euro's cl9... haven't seen this kit before
Says there that you need to source your own downpipe to connect the exhaust side of the turbo to your exhaust system.

[defibros]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/485hp-Turbo-Kit-K20-K20Z1-K20Z2-K20Z3-K20Z4-Acura-Honda_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el111 6QQitemZ350150074233QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPa rtsQ5fAccessories


seems like a good price for the POWER!...

[EUR003act]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/485hp-Turbo-Kit-K20-K20Z1-K20Z2-K20Z3-K20Z4-Acura-Honda_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el111 6QQitemZ350150074233QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPa rtsQ5fAccessories

seems like a good price for the POWER!...


This package has all new quality parts that are capable of producing well beyond 485 horsepower at 25+ PSI with supporting modifications and a built motor. This is the most complete package available compared to others at an affordable price. On a stock motor the kit will create give the motor a 100 horsepower gain on a low boost setting of 8 PSI :thumbdwn:

You'd need $1500 for tuning, $1500 for exhaust, $1000 for intake, $500 for bigger intercooler, $1500 for forged internals, $2000 worth of labour... approx $8000 ontop of that kit... then you'd have 450-500whp :thumbsup:

[sports06]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/485hp-Turbo-Kit-K20-K20Z1-K20Z2-K20Z3-K20Z4-Acura-Honda_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el111 6QQitemZ350150074233QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPa rtsQ5fAccessories


seems like a good price for the POWER!...

anyone think this kit would be worth the hassle of buying? or just another ebay item that will probably need most things replaced anyway?

[EUR003act]

anyone think this kit would be worth the hassle of buying? or just another ebay item that will probably need most things replaced anyway?

the turbo is probably a cheap chinese made turbine thatll wreck the bearings in the first 1000kms... intercooler piping is probably only 0.5mm and will buckle under proper clamps... the silicon joins will probably slip off the intercooler all the time because theyre only single ply, and the oil cooler/lines/sandwich plate will probably leak...

ive had friends buy similar "all in one kits" for different cars... you get what you pay for...

[nesterjester]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/485hp-Turbo-Kit-K20-K20Z1-K20Z2-K20Z3-K20Z4-Acura-Honda_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el111 6QQitemZ350150074233QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPa rtsQ5fAccessories


seems like a good price for the POWER!...


it does! ... would this suit the new cu2?

[johnprocter]

i think its a good deal if u want it for a daily drive running on around 8psi then u wouldnt have to upgrade too many other parts etc, anyway with 485hp on a FWD, GG torque steer, i'd be comfortable with high 200's, running stock internals etc just to give the euro that extra oooomft :P

[zaqmlp]

the turbo is probably a cheap chinese made turbine thatll wreck the bearings in the first 1000kms... intercooler piping is probably only 0.5mm and will buckle under proper clamps... the silicon joins will probably slip off the intercooler all the time because theyre only single ply, and the oil cooler/lines/sandwich plate will probably leak...

ive had friends buy similar "all in one kits" for different cars... you get what you pay for...

LOL, i like that description for china made turbo kits lol, but indeed i heard similar stories, "you get what you pay for..." is VERY true :cool:

[aaronng]

i think its a good deal if u want it for a daily drive running on around 8psi then u wouldnt have to upgrade too many other parts etc, anyway with 485hp on a FWD, GG torque steer, i'd be comfortable with high 200's, running stock internals etc just to give the euro that extra oooomft :P

485hp = worn gearbox, slipping clutch, CV joint wear

[EUR003act]

it does! ... would this suit the new cu2?

nope... CU2 has its header moulded into the cylinder head... so you wouldnt be able to fit the turbo manifold... :(