does my mechanic know what he is talking about?

[Lowiez]

went down to a exhuast shop today.... the guy there was really friendly, and could basically answer every question i asked (which was alot). seemed to really know his stuff, and he has worked on many WRXs and EVOs, also mentioned that he has done integras also.

was going to order:
TODA Racing DC5 (Race) header
TODA Performance stainless steel metal catalyst mod
+ VAREX oval exhuast tip

he told me that the catback and tip was just a waste of money and i was just paying for the branding, no extra gains would come from buying say, HKs, Greddy, TODA, ect catbacks.

suggested strongly for me to go get the toda RH and then use his custom piping for the catback and tip.
also said that getting 3" would be useless for my stock NA 2.0L 4 cyl, and that 2" piping would be more than sufficient?

any thoughts on that?

[I heart the SSS]

3 inch is huge overkill...

try 2.25 or something... or PM some members on here and see what they run.

If you want boost in the future, 3 is good.

N/A though, don't go past 2.5.

[bungsai]

K loves the 3" baby.

imho, ignore your mech, get the toda exhaust if you want, itll hold its value better than some shoddy 2" custom exhaust.

varex FTL.

[VTECMACHINE]

If you're not chasing every tiny bit of power... then you don't need a really exxy cat back. The way I see it, it's a pipe. As long as it's mandrel bent and the right size it's fine. Depends what material you want to use for weight factor and/or bling factor.
For DC5R/S i'd probably say 70mm (2.7inch) (as used in J's racing race cars), or 60mm (2.3inch). I personally think 2" is a bit too small.
Saying that, there was a power increase on my car when going from Spoon to J's racing cat back. I asked head of J's racing, and he told me it was because it makes the car rich out (?), and because of the resignator technology and design you'll make more power. Not much more was said.

Also, i'm quite sure you need to change front sway bar to EP3 sway bar for Toda headers.

[I heart the SSS]

K loves the 3" baby.

imho, ignore your mech, get the toda exhaust if you want, itll hold its value better than some shoddy 2" custom exhaust.

varex FTL.

LOL I'm not to savvy with the K series. Thanks for that

[Lowiez]

i see i see.
yeah i thought 2" was a bit small...most setups on clubrsx seem to be NA yet running 3"s. althought most have some power inc mods.

i guess im not desperate for every little bit of power but it would be nice if im going to get it done anyway..

so it comes down to holding value? i mean like he said hes going to do the mandrel bend n all. alot cheaper than getting a brand name....although ill pay extra if the brand name is actually more functional (not just like a tinnnnnny bit)

[chargeR]

2" is smaller than the stock exhaust on a Type S :p. I would go something 2.5 or 3" custom or any of the reputable JDM brand catbacks. They are more expensive but you tend to pay for the quality and fitment as well as resale.

Your mechanic is somewhat correct, a catback exhaust on a DC5 will not net you massive gains but it is a necessary modification to make the most of your exhaust manifold and it will definitely free up a couple of kW and make a nice noise to boot.

[Lowiez]

2" is smaller than the stock exhaust on a Type S :p. I would go something 2.5 or 3" custom or any of the reputable JDM brand catbacks. They are more expensive but you tend to pay for the quality and fitment as well as resale.

Your mechanic is somewhat correct, a catback exhaust on a DC5 will not net you massive gains but it is a necessary modification to make the most of your exhaust manifold and it will definitely free up a couple of kW and make a nice noise to boot.


ic. well even if i dont get the TODA catback, he will make his own custom piping. so assuming he knows what he is doing, he could still get a similar benefit to an JDM brand's catback?

[aaronng]

2" on a DC5S is too small. Even the Euro uses 54mm (2.12") piping as stock. LOL

[aaronng]

ic. well even if i dont get the TODA catback, he will make his own custom piping. so assuming he knows what he is doing, he could still get a similar benefit to an JDM brand's catback?

Is he giving the exhaust to you for FREE? I'd ask him to do 2.25" instead of 2". If he is charging you for the exhaust (in either labour or materials), then I wouldn't bother with this exhaust.

[VTECMACHINE]

ic. well even if i dont get the TODA catback, he will make his own custom piping. so assuming he knows what he is doing, he could still get a similar benefit to an JDM brand's catback?

Yes he can get similar benefits to an exxy JDM zorst, but not by using a 2". And this is coming from a JDM brand whore.

[chargeR]

Yes he can get similar benefits to an exxy JDM zorst, but not by using a 2". And this is coming from a JDM brand whore.

I agree. He can get just as good results in terms of power if he uses 2.5 or 3" piping, mandrel bends and a quality muffler.

[bungsai]

Yes he can get similar benefits to an exxy JDM zorst, but not by using a 2". And this is coming from a JDM brand whore.


I agree. He can get just as good results in terms of power if he uses 2.5 or 3" piping, mandrel bends and a quality muffler.


ic. well even if i dont get the TODA catback, he will make his own custom piping. so assuming he knows what he is doing, he could still get a similar benefit to an JDM brand's catback?
agreed.

At the end of the day you are looking at at least $300 for the b pipe pending what kind of mid muffler you go for. another $2-300 for a decent muffler. Imho pay the $900 for a JDM exhaust which already has good fitment and MOST are well built even if it is in taiwan.

Youll be able to flog it off in a few years as opposed to your custom job which no one will want since we are all JDM whores.

[Lowiez]

I see. Well thanks for that fellas...ive heard good reports of this guy, recommended to him by a good friend.

Ill go inquire about a 2.5" system today and get back to you guys

[peejayy]

what do people think about the Varex Exhausts?

Ive been considering one for my BB6, price isnt a factor. Drone is.

[Lowiez]

ahhhhh!!

Thankyou for your email & interest in TODA Racing products,



The road header package is currently priced at $2490

The break down of costs is as follows:

TODA Racing Race header – $1850

TODA Performance high flow cat mod – $550

EP3 Civic Type R front sway bar – $220



The header alone with cat included is $2300

:unlove:
lol :(

[Lowiez]

what do people think about the Varex Exhausts?

Ive been considering one for my BB6, price isnt a factor. Drone is.

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=101564

+ searchhhh :P

[peejayy]

thanks. i fail.

[EG5]

3 inch FTW for K series.
That applied to K20A2 / JDM K20A / K24a3 ( euro motor )
There are some back to back testing(2.5 inch vs 3 inch) on k20a.org a while ago about it.

[TODA AU]

FWIW the TODA exhaust is 60mm ID or 2.36" ID
2" OD pipe is too small - period...
If you're on a budget, get 2.5" OD mandrel bent system.
This will perform in a similar fashion to most JDM systems if made well.
Be sure to have good muflers included so it's not loud or droney.

Re 3" OD cat back systems
You can see a small gain in peak power using this size on a K-series.
However it's not so easy to make it quite.

[2002 TeGgY]

go the 3" man, im running one atm. i had the fuji power getter before, but decided to sell it and go the 3"....feels like it gained throughout the revrange...was loud at the beggining but now im used to it

[Limbo]

my 1.6 ltr had a 2 1/4".

On a K series you need a less restrictive exhuast.

Go 2.5" for a decent improvement & not too loud
Go 3" for a hardcore system

[EGBenny]

Most of the guys on k20.org said 3inch gave them more power and was more quiet than 2.5inch, win win.

[fatboyz39]

3' all the way!!!

[7ypeR]

^^^ agreed. That way if you decide to go hardcore with the motor in future, you won't have to go back and waste money on the exhaust again when you should have done it the first time. Only downside is that ground clearance is a b*tch so don't expect to have the dumped jdm look.

Your mechanic is right, there's going to be f*ck all in terms of performance between a custom made and brand name cat-back. Besides quality (depending on your guy), brand name is probably only good for bragging. Unless your made of money, go for gold son!!