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[Zdster]

A 7" wide wheel will sit pretty much flush with the guards on a +40 offset.

[chargeR]

A 7" wide wheel will sit pretty much flush with the guards on a +40 offset.

You must have a slightly different definition of flush to others :). That wheel might be 'flush' with zero camber and a slightly lowered car but with any sort of camber and dumpage it will be sunk.

'flush' implies the sort of wheel fitment where the guards at least need to be rolled aggressively. Some might call this flush:

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/1610/edit1cm9.jpg

[nd55]

> the stock offset for a 99 EK1 CXi stock wheels?

48mm for OEM rims rings a bell.

I think most users of aftermarket wheels are at 42mm.

Nick.

[Zdster]

You must have a slightly different definition of flush to others :). That wheel might be 'flush' with zero camber and a slightly lowered car but with any sort of camber and dumpage it will be sunk.

'flush' implies the sort of wheel fitment where the guards at least need to be rolled aggressively. Some might call this flush:


He hasnt said anything about lowering a car, camber or anything else. If you want the wheel/tyre to sit just within the guards on a 7" wheel you will need a +40 offset.

I would like to see a side angle photo of the car that you posted. You will find that most of the wheel sits well beyond the guard.

I have never heard of anyone refer to a 'flush' fitment as needing to roll guards to make wheels fit.

[chargeR]

He hasnt said anything about lowering a car, camber or anything else. If you want the wheel/tyre to sit just within the guards on a 7" wheel you will need a +40 offset.

I would like to see a side angle photo of the car that you posted. You will find that most of the wheel sits well beyond the guard.

I have never heard of anyone refer to a 'flush' fitment as needing to roll guards to make wheels fit.

I guess we will just have to disagree. I think that any wheel and tyre that clears the quite large inner lip on the guards is going to look sunken in.

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/6403/edit6pn0.jpg

[OMG.JAI xD]

I guess we will just have to disagree. I think that any wheel and tyre that clears the quite large inner lip on the guards is going to look sunken in.

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/6403/edit6pn0.jpg

And remember. Zdster stated "+40 offset on a 7" wide rim"

your photo looks to be on the +20 or less depending on the width.

[AE092]

You must have a slightly different definition of flush to others :). That wheel might be 'flush' with zero camber and a slightly lowered car but with any sort of camber and dumpage it will be sunk.

'flush' implies the sort of wheel fitment where the guards at least need to be rolled aggressively. Some might call this flush:

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/1610/edit1cm9.jpg

The pic clearly shows that if the wheels were on 0 camber then it exceeds the stock guards. My friend has 7inch wide wheels on his EK with a +38 offset and thats flush. Lowered on king lows

If your talking dumped, that's an entirely different story

[chargeR]

The pic clearly shows that if the wheels were on 0 camber then it exceeds the stock guards. My friend has 7inch wide wheels on his EK with a +38 offset and thats flush. Lowered on king lows

If your talking dumped, that's an entirely different story

This is the point i was trying to illustrate with the pictures. Wheel offset, width and tyre size are only part of the equation, as ride height and alignment are equally important.

I am just suggesting that there is a plethora of offsets, widths and tyre sizes that could be considered 'flush' and that 7" +40 will only be relatively close to the gaurds if the car is not dumped and camber is conservative :).


And remember. Zdster stated "+40 offset on a 7" wide rim"

your photo looks to be on the +20 or less depending on the width.

Yes. And?

EDIT:

To stay on topic: 16x8 +19 and +17. Not my car obviously but the guards look rolled and slightly pulled.

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w173/K20APOWER/album%20number2/2770157024_9d4d5551d1_o.jpg

[Zdster]

This is the point i was trying to illustrate with the pictures. Wheel offset, width and tyre size are only part of the equation, as ride height and alignment are equally important.

I am just suggesting that there is a plethora of offsets, widths and tyre sizes that could be considered 'flush' and that 7" +40 will only be relatively close to the gaurds if the car is not dumped and camber is conservative .


It has nothing to do with the cars ride height. The hubs should stay vertical whether the car is 3 foot of the ground or an inch. What you are suggesting is that if you add camber it will effect how the wheel sits. While this is true, if you want a wheel that is perfectly vertical to the car, you have zero camber/toe and have a 7" wide wheel, then +40 offset is perfect.

[barefootbonzai]

I don't know why you are arguing for. What chargeR said was right, your definition of flush differs a lot to my definition of flush, and mine would differ to others.

+32 would be closer to flush without rolling gaurds. I'm on +35 atm and it's disspointing...

[chargeR]

It has nothing to do with the cars ride height. The hubs should stay vertical whether the car is 3 foot of the ground or an inch. What you are suggesting is that if you add camber it will effect how the wheel sits. While this is true, if you want a wheel that is perfectly vertical to the car, you have zero camber/toe and have a 7" wide wheel, then +40 offset is perfect.

Wat? Are you suggesting that the suspension on an EK when lowered does not camber in naturally and also that by some magic it also travels directly vertically and not in an arc about its instantaneous centre? That is my understanding of your statement regarding the hubs being vertical.

I already said in my first post that a car with zero camber and not too low will look fairly flush on a 7" +40 so we agree on that point. I just think that wheel spec is a crappy choice :). To illustrate my point regarding ride height and camber being very important here is a few pics of one car with the same wheels and 3 different ride heights, notice that at only one ride height does it look flush:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/fwdtamiya/DSC_0039.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/fwdtamiya/2-18-07WilsonParkJayJShoot3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/fwdtamiya/dsc02035yj8.jpg


Anyway moving on, here are some nice EKs:

15x6.5 +28:
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d26/datni99ahern/DSC01459.jpg

17x7 +25:
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n89/csubucky19/2984437687_f276e08748_o.png

[wlee2]

Definition for Flush..

1. even or level, as with a surface; forming the same plane: The bottom of the window is flush with the floor.
2. having direct contact; being right next to; immediately adjacent; contiguous: The table was flush against the wall.

[nd55]

> Stock 99 EK1 CXi offset and width?

Width will be printed on the tyre sticker, passenger door side sill.

Nick.