Fd track set ups

[rk 86 wa]

I know fds arent the quickest in a straight line, but they corner decently enough to have fun on a track/skidpan setup.

sooooo

for the guys who do track,

post up rough set ups and lets see if we can encourage any more to get out there :)

btw lets cut the crap and by that i dont mean if you have a body kit of mad 48" deep dish pizza rims, etc. just want to know what you have that you recommend for track and why.

as far as format how about


model:
transmission:
engine:
suspension:
interior:

if you have any more ideas then add them to the list

[rk 86 wa]

Mine.

model: fd1

transmission: manual

engine:

simota intake (in all honest i dont find much of a difference anywhere in the rev range and the only reason i still have it on the car is cause im too lazy to remove it and put on stock air box

engine oil: oem honda oil i find is more than enough for what i use my car for

tranny fluid: again like the engine oil, oem fluid is more than enough for what my car does

one thing that may be arguable is the gear knob, the stock fd gear knobs have a massive throw. atm just using a spoon knob and i find the throw has significantly reduced due to the shorter shifter length. being a lighter knob, it takes a while for you to get used to the feel but once you get used to it, the shorter throw does feel a lot better and less clunky.

suspension:

cheap bc coilovers- at the moment i have damper rates maxed out for any track use. camber to fronts is 0 degrees and rears are 2.5 degrees. i think this helps prevent me from having the ass end slide out violently during trail braking or lift off, might add some camber to the fronts to see if it eliminates a little of the understeer (any suggestions?)

cusco front strut- not really that much of a gain, in all honesty i believe my engine is doing a good enough job as a strut brace and due to the short length of our engine bays and the layout of a V shaped cusco strut, it doesnt really change handling characteristics that much. would however very much like to experiment with a rear strut (the one for your boot) and try stripping the interior for events as i keep the rear seats in to stabalise the back as i assume the seats themselves act as struts and lower body flex.

brake pads: currently using endless ccx, havent yet upgraded the rotors. for daily driving even on cold days as long as you apply a bit more pressure to the brakes, they are completely fine for daily driving. once you have warmed them up a bit on your warmup lap, the bit f*cking hard and are very good. I have yet to find any rotor wear and they have had a quite a few abusive track days

brake fluid : oem honda fluid again is good enough

tires: re001 - great for my application, however after a few track days the fronts have started wearing out at the shoulders, but handling is negligably affected and still grip well.

interior:

fire extinguisher - in wa cams requires a minimum of 1kg extinguisher for the event that i go to, afaik more serious events may require bigger or multiple. the bracket was fabricated by an engineering company and bolts onto the passenger seat rail so there is no drilling into floor pan etc etc involved, if you would like dimensions/pics send me a pm

[amurray]

model:

FD1

transmission:

5spd Manul

engine:

Injen long ram intake
full custom exhaust header
cat moved and replaced with highflow
full catback with strate through exhaust

suspension:

Full cusco line up... pretty much there whole catlouge

Skunk 2 rear camber kit. to fit those 20 x 8.5

interior:

Bride Brix II driver and passenger

[ej20i]

where did u get the railings for the brides mang??

[amurray]

bride FD2r rails :P

[ej20i]

ooowell duh...but how much are they??

[rk 86 wa]

good stuff amurray

using their sway bars aswell?

[FallenAngel]

Might wana put up some times on the track (if u want to) and also where you've been.

[FallenAngel]

Model:

FD1

Transmission:

Manual

Engine:

Injen CAI
Custom Catback Exhaust w/ x3 resonators (street spec yo!)

Suspension:

Lenso RE30's 17x7 w/ Kumho Ecstas KU31 225/45 all around
Pedders Sports Ryder Springs
Spoon EK9 Brake Pads

Interior:

Stock

Coming Soon:

D2 Coilovers (sitting at home awaiting to be put in)
Skunk 2 Rear Camber kit (same as above)

Trackdays:

Wakefield Park Raceway - 1:23:6990 (Stock w/ Dead tyres)
Wakefield Park Raceway - 1:21:0710 (Semi Wet)

Improvements

Injen CAI - Helps quite a bit on the track especially on the track where you're in the top end all the time.

EK9 pads: They're awesome in all honesty, they take awhile to warm up but when they do, they do their job well!

KU31 Tires: Cheap and awesome tires i must say. I'd recommend them if you can't afford the RE001's (or semis =])

[FallenAngel]

also amurray where did you get the cusco parts from?

[amurray]

i got my cusco parts from Tripple Nine here in Brisbane.. Really good service. i think there a trader on here.

[rk 86 wa]

ahh cool

barbagellos: 65s

[FallenAngel]

Also tires would be a good addition!

[ej20i]

model: fd1

transmission: manual

engine:

xforce twin loop exhaust with resonator removed

engine oil: Castrol Edge 5W-40

suspension:
Kings super low (CRAP)
and thats it
hahaha
but i just recetly aquired an ultra racing front strut bar...yet to be tested

tyres: Kumho ecsta 7 at first run all round (Lenso DC5 215/45/17x7) and second run i used Kumho Ecsta semis fronts only( DC2R Rims 15") ...couldnt be bothered changing rears...dont know why...

interior:

just a head deck for listening to music and stiped out rear seats.

times- with kumho ecsta 7 - 1:25. something something (semi wet)
with Kumho Ecsta semis - 1.22 something something (semi wet)
- 1.20.02 mate driving (semi wet)

saving up money now for rear stut and sway and testing it out again...
and i just got new tyres too...
dunlop sp sport 9000 ...cant wait to crack a new time with these grippy tyres

[rk 86 wa]

yah i put tires into the suspension area.

very cool guys!

out of curiosity ej what sway bar are you going for?


also fallen angel what camber ratse you running?

[nny911]

using my mates account
all going to be ultra racing...the whole catalogue

[FallenAngel]

WAaaaa the whole set... i wana get it!! but yet have the money >.<

ATM my fronts are +0.5 deg, and the rears are about -2.5deg. Have yet to get them aligned. Although my plans are to have the fronts either 0 or -1 deg camber and the rears at probably 1.8 deg.

[rk 86 wa]

yah, i wouldnt mind boosting my fronts up to around neg 2-2.5 deg of camber and leaving backs at around 2 dont really want or know much about toe in or castor to comment.

aparty from the kumhos is anyone running semis? pros cons? afaik toyo r888 seem to be the go for lighter cars and entry level tracking from what i hear.

[ej20i]

the falken azenis are beautiful before when i had it on my impreza....

[ej20i]

fallenangel...hows ecsta ku31?

[FallenAngel]

Awesome!! although i can't really make a comparison to anything else besides the stock tires as i haven't drive the fd with any other tires.

I wana try some semis soon, get some 15" and put them on the stocks

[rk 86 wa]

ah is yours vtil or vti? i wouldnt put any tire for track on steelies cause of limitations of air flow over brakes and i guess eventual over heating

[FallenAngel]

vti-l so alloys for me =]

So i'd say its not TOO bad but i'll see how it goes when i have the money that is =]

[ej20i]

lol steelies at track..

[FallenAngel]

That'll be funny to see xD

[rk 86 wa]

lol :P

i need to find a cheap set of 17s to run semis on soon me thinks

[ej20i]

far out...wad are u doing on ozhonda at 5.35 am???

[rk 86 wa]

i just got home then haha

[amurray]

dont u know the fd rotine. go out. pick up. sneak away. race home. Check FD posts lol

[rk 86 wa]

LOL! I wish I'd get my ass handed to me by gf ahaha

[rk 86 wa]

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=N4G6C3GcSkg

^ hill climb event in my fd1 :P

[denot]

^^^ nice :thumbsup:

[FallenAngel]

Getting a lot of understeer there :P

Nice vid... i forgot to take the cam on the time i went to wakefield =[

[rk 86 wa]

thanks guys

yeah i need to get camber tops >.< lol

having said that a few of the more understeery corners are off camber so nothing i can do about that :P

yeah post up your vids!

ill hopefully have a few more after the next two events this month :D

[Sherweeeny]

i took mine to the drags tonight... best time was 16.04! i really dont think theres much more in it for a stock civic sport with the interior still all intact lol

[rk 86 wa]

how were your launches/60ft times etc?

15 secs is soooo close :D

good stuff!

[denot]

i took mine to the drags tonight... best time was 16.04! i really dont think theres much more in it for a stock civic sport with the interior still all intact lol

sorry for being nubs here.. but what is that time based on? cant be 0-100km/h rite? er... rite?

[rk 86 wa]

over 400 metres

[rk 86 wa]

http://www.pbase.com/actionphotography/summerhilldec2008&page=1

some pics from the hill climb event :D

[trsc27]

http://www.pbase.com/actionphotography/summerhilldec2008&page=1

some pics from the hill climb event :D

How did your times compare to the red type r?

[rk 86 wa]

Sena whooped me :)

He is on these forms i think under lurkits02 or something, but his level of mods is significantly greater than mine, plus he is a good driver to boot :P

I think he got like ~1:10 up jacks hill?

In respect I got 1:14

Also the winner was the gunmetal evo 8 mr who got a 1:02

ahahaha

[Stevil]

Doing my 2nd ever track day next week 4th August at Wakefield, did Marulan last month so I'm keen to see if I can keep with a mates sorted Mx5, anyway I'm not gunna make any predictions but I will be flogging the crap out of my 2mth old FD1 (12,000km).

3rd track day coming up at wakefield in October

model: 2011 White VTi

transmission: 5 spd Manual

engine: all 1800 cc, Shell 10w40 Synthetic, K&N airfilter, Dot5.1 brake fluid

suspension: Stock honda crap, just had a custom made 18mm Rear sway installed
Enkei RPo1 16x7 with Federa RSR 205/50/16, 2 deg Camber on the front

brakes: DBA 4000 slotted rotors, QFM A1RM track pads (DB1206)

Hoping for sub 1.20's but in reality I'll be learning the track so 1.22's would keep me happy.

[DuffyFD]

Stevil who made your custom rear sway bar? Did they make the linkages too?

If it's quite a bit thicker than stock then you'll be best to invest in the linkages as a lot of people who upgrade their bars have the linkages tear off the subframe.

[Stevil]

Duffy, Todd at Signature Sways (Nowra) knocked up and installed the rear 18mm sway bar, we did talk about the strength of it and he understood that it needs to handle up to a dozen track days over the next 3 years. I'd be interested in your thoughts, do I need to strength where linkages mount or just the linkages ? Cheers.

next stage of development will include Eibach springs and Koni Yellowtops

http://madmick3006.com/ahngallery/upload/files/2011-07/e2fbfb0f.jpg

[EGB]

Upgrade your endlinks and you will require this reinforcement. whether it be custom made or purchased.
http://www.corsportusa.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=6&products_id=4292

[DuffyFD]

The weakpoint is where the endlink attaches to the chassis.

Be careful of getting stung with huge postage rates from Corsport. That's my experience.

[Stevil]

Well completed my first track day at Wakefield, racechrono was playing up and I only got times from my last session of the day. Def had the slowest car but the FD1 sure does handle !! Youtube footage is from my 2nd last session with cooked brakes.

1.18.5 Wakefield Dry and 24C, Racechrono suggested my optimal was 1.16.5.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEF22SrIfiw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEF22SrIfiw&feature=autoplay&list=LLPgKhxQzTUiw&index=2&playnext=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws0FpxYr_10&feature=BFa&list=LLPgKhxQzTUiw&index=3

[ekay1]

Wow so the fd does have potential

[Stevil]

Hell Yeah !, the FD1 certainly does have some potential ! keep in mind the FD1 is a fairly light package, 85kg lighter than the 2L Sport.

Stock weight is 1180kg, throw on some lightweight forged alloy wheels & Rubber (I'm only guessing but maybe 20kg less than the original steel wheels), remove spare tyre and jack (15kg) and weight is probably around 1145 kg on the track. I'm planning on removing the rear seat and passenger seat for the next track day (maybe another 20kg ?) so down to 1125kg.

Slotted Rotors down the track should remove a little more weight. With Konis/Eibachs along with EBC/DBA slotted rotors I'll be aiming for 1.15s at Wakefield and 46s for Marulan. Probably dreaming but I need a target ! Haha

[ekay1]

1.18.5 for a stock car is good imo! Yeah, slap on some decent size/weight wheels with some semis, coils, remove some weight and like a catback and intake should get you past 1.15 pretty easily at this rate. Always wanted to track the car but never had the funds lol

[Stevil]

Still a stock motor/springs and shocks, these will get some attention over summer in prep for 2012.

Now sporting some DBA 4000 slotted rotor and A1RM track pads and some neg camber on the front, awesome combo ! ABS seems to have disaappeared ? and turning in is heaps inproved.

Feels good to support Aussie manufacturers ( Signature sways, DBA, QFM brake pads) Only a couple of week til Wakefiled, hoping to crack into the 1.16s, low 1.17s is probably reality.

http://madmick3006.com/ahngallery/upload/files/2011-09/64a0bc14.jpg

[ekay1]

hey stevil, mind me asking where you purcahsed your slotted rotors and price?
thanks

[Stevil]

Ekay1 give Matt at Sydney Race Brakes a call, $310 for the pair which was over a $100 cheaper than a bunch of other places.

[ekay1]

Thanks Stevil!

[Stevil]

Well the FD1 had a session at Wakefield today and it looks like the brake rotor and pad upgrade paid off big time. Was only my 2nd time at the track and with some better lines I knocked 1.8 sec off my previous PB. Only did 5 session and knocked off early at 2.30pm but still managed to clock a 1.16.7 with an optimal time of 1.14.5 !!.

Bit suprised at how quick the FD1 can go with only 103kW's. I'll be moving the goal post a bit now as I reckon with a shock and spring change I reckon 13's are on the cards. haha better grab another beer !

[ekay1]

Im impressed with the times! 1.14.5 is alot faster than what i thought it was capable of. Why not go coils instead of shock + spring combo? Any more plans for the future?

[Stevil]

Ekay1 mods will pretty much leave the motor stock as this is a work car and there aint really much you can do with it !!. As i've only got the car for 3 years and I do alot of Kms with work I'm sort of concerned that coilovers might not last the distance and ride will be too harsh for the missus

Already thinking Eibach springs and Koni yellow tops will flatten things out and give alot more stability under brakes, cause at the moment the rear is swinging badly under brakes and on turn in. There will also be a little underbody bracing along with a better seat just for track only.

I did remove the front passenger seat and the rear seats today and It probably saved another another 15kgs. I reckon every bit helps.

[Areis]

OMG! new goal: FD to the track!

[Stevil]

Hell Yeah Areis ! Mate Wakefield is a load of fun and a safe track to boot. I'll probably give my car a breather til April next year but maybe an FD day at the track is on the cards ?

[ekay1]

Fair enough Stevil. If you really want power and still keep it N/A ive been reading about the weapon R downpipe and intake manifold as well if your intersted in power :P Apparently its a decent gain.... but some people complain about the quality of the items above saying it cracks at the welds LOL.

[Stevil]

Civic FD1 doing a 1.16.7 at Wakefield, rolling like a boat on big seas ! haha, pulled 149kmh down the main straight. Mate was following in his 700hp XR6T which had no trouble keeping up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltFtbp1ABOk

[Stevil]

Snuck down to Wakefield on Tues this week as it was my last day of the holidays, anyway a set of Eibach springs was the only change since my last outing so I was really only expecting to bump my times down a small bit.

Day a started well and my first timed morning session produces a 1.16.1 which was 0.6 sec improvement. I was hoping to get into the 15s but a combination of hangover and the RS-Rs (3 track days & 25,000km) put paid to that. Still undecided as to whether get coilovers next (buddy club N+) or lower the gearing with a new MF final drive ??.