Whats in a SuperCharger kit?

[**Ghost**]

Hey guys, I'm definitely set on forced induction right now instead of spending my money on i/h/e, etc etc...

I've read up on the pros/cons of turbos vs superchargers vs NA power and decided i wanted turbocharging.

BUT, someone offered to sell me a supercharger that comes fromtoyota altezza for a very good price. Question is, discounting labor, what other parts/piping/etc do i need besides from the just the charger?

To clarify things a bit, I'm only going to be running around 6-8 psi, and i'm only interested in the supercharger part of the deal, i already know how much i need to spend on suspension, brakes, etc etc... and i'm NOT going to change internals

ATM i'm thinking i need piping, the pulleys or woteva u call them (as u can tell i know NOTHING about Forced induction, i wasted all my time researching NA power), upgraded fuel system, some sort of oil cooler/catch can...

anything i missed? and also what parts can i scrounge of other cars and what parts do i NEED to get specific for my car>? right now i'm thinking i need only the piping fabricated, but everything else i can get from other cars/2nd hand/new aftermarket

[tanghy]

you will need ecu - very impt here
mounting kit for the supercharger - probably custom here and not cheap

[**Ghost**]

what sort of ecu? fully independent or piggy back>?

[tanghy]

as good as u can afford

[pornstar]

Gary, you need a fair amount of work on that to get it onto ur honda...

Alan has a supercharger to suit ur motor at his house, speak to him man, very cheap, adn its already made to suit the b16a

[**Ghost**]

Thanks Andy!!! ...... is alan just "alan" on this forum? he drives the CRX yeh


I know its a fair amount of work, but personally i reckon its worth it as compared to doing NA tuning. I cant believe i ever doubted ur world and rooted for NA power : )

Plus, i got a friend (certified mechanic) who will install it for me for free basically in his workshop

[pornstar]

Then ur laughing. Not sure what his nick is, i think youve met him before with us?

If not, give me a call and Ill introduce you to him. His looking to sell ASAP too, so maybe u can bargain alot. Alans Supercharger is already made for the b16a, so minimal work is needed, well pretty much no work is needed to modify it, just to put it in, and if i can do it, ur mechanic should be able to do it eyes closed! for free eh? man ur going to have one fast car for cheap!

[**Ghost**]

cool, i'll have a look at my bank account first, cos i only have around 1k atm... need to finish exams and shite first before i have the time or money to do it (take me around 2 months from now)

hahaha yes i am laughing mate... I met this guy at uni, who got a EM1 2 months ago... he's a bit of a rich daddy's boy (he gets cheques in the mail) so he starts modding his car. Spent like 3500 total for I/h/E + cams + ecu + ITR pistons/rings + rods... and he's car is dyoned at 93kw at the wheels... its all a big big joke.

but yeh... i guess hsi car is BALANCED **insert mass sarcasm***

[pornstar]

wtf? did he go to chasers?

[**Ghost**]

He got the parts shipped over from Hong Kong, got them installed from a professional mechanic in Sydney, also dynoed in sydney

is 93kw too much or too little? and i've driven his car... and although i havent caned it cos its not my car... to be honest the difference isnt something i'm willing to spend that much money on

[sesshoumaru]

i believe the hardest part would be mounting hte supercharger.

It has to be in a place it fits, plus it also needs to be driven off another pulley somehow.

everything is pretty much going to be custom which means a lot of hours... but if you can get the s/c really cheap, and as you said free labour... could be worthwhile...

[**Ghost**]

yeh i heard about that... but compared to turbo, discounting installation hours, just thinking about materials wots cheaper? cos turbo needs all that piping... does supercharger?

[Honda_Fools]

why supercharge a shit box? its not like its gonna move or make a different

[tanghy]

super does not unless u want to run a intercooler
your biggest costs will be making mounting for teh super
and ECU + tuning

[Honda_Fools]

another dumbass reply...

[**Ghost**]

Which was the dumbassreply mate? If i had to pick one it'd be urs, being unconstructive and unproductive and generally uncalled for?

Tanghy, i figured as much, but could i ask u if theers more/less/same piping involved in supercharging and turbo charging? like do i need down pipe, manifold all that stuff?

[pornstar]

gary thats why alans is the best for ya, its mounted for b16a/b18c and it has everything u need to get it onto ur car, only need labour to fit it

[**Ghost**]

argh, i wish he could wait 2 months though...i'm up to my neck in exams atm

[tanghy]

no need downpipe etc, but would get more gains if u put on a better flowing extractor, stock one will still work tho, just not as much gains

[**Ghost**]

sweet, that means less fabrication...

andy could u tell me wot Alan's kit includes? if i get a supercharger i'll do it properly the first time with fuel management and ecu instead of some FMU or woteva they're called... i'llk prolly leave it lowish boost until i can get a better intercooler though...

[pornstar]

I think Alan has everything in his kit gary. I have spare injectors and things like that you can get cheap off me. I think I might even have a small cooler lieing around...

[**Ghost**]

lol... u have everything... give me his nick andy, i'll ask him if he'll accept a deposit or something and the price : ) thanks for the help

would i at least get 100 kw atw by running a supercharger at 6psi with a pissy small intercooler? i think my car does like 85 kw atwheels stock yeh

[Type R Positive]

*warning* you will get addicted and then spend any money you have making it faster! :D

[Weq]

with a superhcarger u are limited. is the kit able to be intercooled? because most jackson racings cant be. which means some kind of injection to cool the charge. also for more boost u wil need to upgrade pullys. plus u have the parisitic loss of the charger. weigh up the pro's and con's, its alot of money and u dont wan tto wasite it.

[pornstar]

Weq, believe me, this kit is just fine.

[poweredbyhonda]

Maybe fine but still gay. Tuuuurbo iiiiiittt!!!!

[**Ghost**]

y turbo? i mean wots the advantage over supercharger? i prefer linear power... not that i know too much about it other some light reading on the net, but i was under the impression that low boost turbo and supercharger were essentially the same in terms of use

[pornstar]

his just cut that he cant beat my car gary, dont worry, his car is stil gay pink!

[**PIMPIN**ACCORD]

**Ghost** im in the same boat as you champ....

Would it be realistic thinking to get a custom turbo kit (inc front mount, boost contoller etc) fitted for under $5000???

P.S. Some parts would be second hand

[**Ghost**]

lol... hahaha.....

hey andy, the guy still hasnt rung me yet... did ya give him my number>?

[੮®ப]

**Ghost** I really like to know how this goes, and personally i think that supercharge is a good way to go! Even though it can be a LITTLE more expensive i thinks its worth it.. and the reason for that is reliability and less maintanence. I dunno know if u seen this website but i think its a complete supercharge kit for a ba18c. its worth about 5k and if u have a friend that can install it for free... fark man ur laughin... i assume it would cost about 1k in labour and tuning...and do u really need an ECU?

Please... correct me if im wrong on any of the above...

"Power Package #11"
http://www.modacar.com/products/Acura/Integra/MODAPP/

Keep us updated on ur car.. better still take pics and post them up of the pregress.. and when its all said and DONE... Let me know... I'd Like to have a peak.

*Honda FooL: Keep Ur mouth shut if u dont have anything smart/contructive to say.

[**Ghost**]

: ) thanks for the support ppl.. now waiting on the word... in any case if the price isnt right i'll go get a GrEddy turbo kit... god bless jonnie howard and the australian exchange rate

[pornstar]

soz gary forgot ot pass it on to him, ill do that for ya now. btw his asking for way less than 5k for the kit

[**Ghost**]

cools : )

i'll buy it if its cheaper than a turbo kit or my fds supercharger... i need force induction, there is no other option

[strafe]

With a toyota blower, you're limited to about 6psi on a 1.6 Litre car, after that you're really beginning to test the limits of the small blower. Jackson racing kits change the boost levels by changing the size of the crank pulley. You should be able to get away with running larger injectors, a fuel regulator and management on your car running a low amount of boost. Good luck with your project :)

[alan]

its not the crank pulley that charges boost levels
the blower runs off the alternator pulley
do ur research mate..... :D