Dc5r or s15?

[kiwi135]

hey ya'll. about to get me another car and just wonderin which one i should get. DC5R or an S15 Autech (and yes i do realise this site is for honda nuts im just wonderin which will be better to get)
just got on ma red p's and im located in NSW

[RR-04-RR]

How old are you?

And where abouts are you located?

[baeshin]

stock dc5r looks better then a stock s15.. and more speed then a non turbo s15

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

Autech

[denrie]

Autech :P not much out there..... be different! and tricks cops by thinking its turbo and get shamed out that its not bwahahaha

[Lukey]

dc5r.

[DvSnGuYeN]

dude, you're on a honda site and asking people to toss up between a honda and a nissan??... it's like going to maccas and asking is the zinger or a McChicken better...

[Twincam16]

No problem with asking that question, most of us have had a nissan or been in a nissan before


Id go S15 for value over the DC5r, but its all down to personal preferance

[adu]

my mate has a autech

its pretty awesome man

N/A autech'

looks the same as turbo .. but obviously not as much power as them

drifting is fun (thats all i can say)


but dc5r are awesome car's aswell

[egpowargh]

id take the dc5r
better interior i reckon plus im sick to the teeth of seeing 15's around iuno too many in the west

[FASN8U]

dc5r all the way

[cupnoodle]

i'm gonna have to say dc5r. potential to mod is much stronger

[trism]

does it need to be p plate legal?


dc5r is ghey, id get a late model dc2r

[mp-]

depends, r u going to leave them stock? if not, i would go s15.

ill go with the s15 n change rims, coilovers etc..

if no money to change a few things, stock vs stock then dc5r

[sassy_fit_vtit]

get what you won't regret later on. Our opinions shouldn't influence your decision cos at the end of the day it's your car, your money that your forking out.

If i were in your position i'd research over all running cost to see if i could afford it (including insurance cost and petrol cost). If you were looking at the n/a s15 i wouldn't buy it knowing that i would've regretted it later on for not waiting to get a turbo one instead.

[kiwi135]

dude, you're on a honda site and asking people to toss up between a honda and a nissan??... it's like going to maccas and asking is the zinger or a McChicken better...

open your eyes or get ur glasess on and read the start of the thread. cuz not only does it say that i realise this is a honda site, people that are members of this site have replied and said that i should choose the autech.

stupid is as stupid does!

[kiwi135]

just lookin for some opinions. but thnx anyway

[xQuizit]

your a lucky c*** dc5r-s15 for a first car ...lol anyway i would go dc5r ...s15 are overated.. though i wuld get a sh**box for a first car for a yr or two,, so that you appreciate the car (dc5r/s15) if you know what i mean... welps thats my 2cents

[kiwi135]

appreciate the input. this aint ma first car, ive had an xcel for three months and now that ive saved enough, it time for a new car

[bodaas]

both are good cars,,,
but if you want full economyy + performance,, buy DC5R

[mp-]

wouldnt fuel be the same for both? or very similar?

btw Bodass, i love ur white civic. i see it a lot and i love the rims lol

[Zinyo]

lol...i've made a similar thread to this before. This my 2 main 'WTB' options as well. But here are some main points i remember on top of my head after months of research ;)
1.)A dc5r looks better (personal taste) exterior - no matter what color it still looks mint, it has better stock form power, more expensive to mod & to get more power, interior is OK, bit more expensive than the autech tho. Awesome car, pretty expensive.

VS

2.)An s15 autech is damn hard to find unless you want to import one and you're in NSW (only a few thousand built). What more can i say; its an N/A JDM s15 with a bit more power than AUDM s15 (less torque tho), exterior is not as hot as dc5r imo, pearl white ftw, interior is better than dc5r imo and a bit cheaper than dc5r. Recommended only for p-platers as it cost as much if not MORE than the turbo spec R. btw, gonna be hard to get insured as its not a 'database listed' vehicle in most insurance companies - you have to negotiate with insurance companies face to face.

If you're a p plater like me, just depends on your budget i guess. Overall, if you buy a dc5r it'll have better resale value compared to the imported s15 autech. Due to the current exchange rate, autech prices have gone up a fair bit.

[kiwi135]

lol...i've made a similar thread to this before. This my 2 main 'WTB' options as well. But here are some main points i remember on top of my head after months of research ;)
1.)A dc5r looks better (personal taste) exterior - no matter what color it still looks mint, it has better stock form power, more expensive to mod & to get more power, interior is OK, bit more expensive than the autech tho. Awesome car, pretty expensive.

VS

2.)An s15 autech is damn hard to find unless you want to import one and you're in NSW (only a few thousand built). What more can i say; its an N/A JDM s15 with a bit more power than AUDM s15 (less torque tho), exterior is not as hot as dc5r imo, pearl white ftw, interior is better than dc5r imo and a bit cheaper than dc5r. Recommended only for p-platers as it cost as much if not MORE than the turbo spec R. btw, gonna be hard to get insured as its not a 'database listed' vehicle in most insurance companies - you have to negotiate with insurance companies face to face.

If you're a p plater like me, just depends on your budget i guess. Overall, if you buy a dc5r it'll have better resale value compared to the imported s15 autech. Due to the current exchange rate, autech prices have gone up a fair bit.

thanx 4 the info appreciate it, r u talkn bowt the jap spec DC5 OR AUDM 1

[adu]

ey kiwi135

brah as i said my mate has an autech s15 in blue

i think he is gonna sell it ..

either way if u want add me on msn and il ask him to have a madd chat to u abt it ..

[Paul1985]

get what you won't regret later on. Our opinions shouldn't influence your decision cos at the end of the day it's your car, your money that your forking out.

If i were in your position i'd research over all running cost to see if i could afford it (including insurance cost and petrol cost). If you were looking at the n/a s15 i wouldn't buy it knowing that i would've regretted it later on for not waiting to get a turbo one instead.

His looking to a DC5R or S15 for a first car, petrol money prob isnt an issue.

I'd go the DC5R just because i'm biased.

Looks better for starters IMO.

[filip5]

dc5r ftw too many s15's goin around

[DreadAngel]

Be different, Alfa 147 lol

[dreamshifter]

hey ya'll. about to get ma first car and just wonderin which one i should get. DC5R or an S15 Autech (and yes i do realise this site is for honda nuts im just wonderin which will be a better to get)
just got on ma red p's and im located in NSW


appreciate the input. this aint ma first car, ive had an xcel for three months and now that ive saved enough, it time for a new car


confused, 1st or 2nd...

Anyways, another plus for getting a DC5R is that the 200sx has a bad record of accidents and so insurance cost tends to be higher.

[kiwi135]

confused, 1st or 2nd...

Anyways, another plus for getting a DC5R is that the 200sx has a bad record of accidents and so insurance cost tends to be higher.

its ma 2nd but i dont want any1 2 know that i had an excel!

[turtle187]

dude honestly s15's are nice but without turbo they aint that fun i can tell you that much.
dc5r, alot of nissan owners dont know the amount of power they can pull so they udnerestimate it, i would get the dc5r over the non turbo s15, more power, more comfort, more worth your dollar.

[DreadAngel]

Autech if you must get a NA S15... Its got the same peak power as the AUDM S15 Spec R but doesn't have the same curve for obvious reasons lol

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

AND when you are on full license (assuming you still have it) Boost :thumbsup:

[RtN]

i'd personally get dc2r and then if you wanna boost then get s15 haha

[Zinyo]

thanx 4 the info appreciate it, r u talkn bowt the jap spec DC5 OR AUDM 1

No worries, was comparing with AUDM local dc5r. We cant import jdm dc5rs to australia.

[spastic]

turbo > na
rwd > fwd

[.::F[L]Y::.]

i vote s15. dont know about the autech ones though....


For those who think a dc5r looks better than an s15 :p
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3287/vu4ty0.jpg

[eg5civic]

theres a guy on boost witha white autech

he reckons he's paying $2300 per year full comprehensive and a $4000 excess if at fault

DC5R imo

s15's are a hot car but it's just gonna attract cop attention cause its a silvia

I have never once been bothered by police cause its a "hairdressers" car
Silvia's are know to police as hoon cars

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

I have never once been bothered by police cause its a "hairdressers" car

You drive a Mx5?

[Zinyo]

wow nise s15. scary looking truck behind it...looks like optimus prime.

[eg5civic]

You drive a Mx5?

Lulz

I thought EG civics were hairdressers cars?? isnt that why girls call them cute??

i'm currently driving a rodeo cause my d went bai bai

[6-SpeedManual]

your a lucky c*** dc5r-s15 for a first car ...lol anyway i would go dc5r ...s15 are overated.. though i wuld get a sh**box for a first car for a yr or two,, so that you appreciate the car (dc5r/s15) if you know what i mean... welps thats my 2cents

so S15 is overated huh? i can say exactly the same to DC5R/DC2R.

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

And i can say that to every other car...

but i dont

[eg5civic]

VTEC's overrated

but its still quicker than your autech XD

[6-SpeedManual]

hey ya'll. about to get me another car and just wonderin which one i should get. DC5R or an S15 Autech (and yes i do realise this site is for honda nuts im just wonderin which will be a better to get)
just got on ma red p's and im located in NSW

I own an autech s15. yes stock for stock power to weight ratio the dc5r prevails but autech has more torque to back it up. its even got more than the jdm model. 9,000 rpm red line. power peaks more as well. looks is really for you to decide. everyone obviously has different tastes. i'd doubt jdm silvia with full aero kit looses on looks to the DC5R. Autech S15 is literally Spec R fully equipped but missing a turbo charger. better bang for your buck.

[.::F[L]Y::.]

theres a guy on boost witha white autech

he reckons he's paying $2300 per year full comprehensive and a $4000 excess if at fault

DC5R imo

s15's are a hot car but it's just gonna attract cop attention cause its a silvia

I have never once been bothered by police cause its a "hairdressers" car
Silvia's are know to police as hoon cars

It would be expensive to insure a dc5r if the OP is from sydney. DC5R are considered a high risk car and also now considered by cops as a hoon car as so many p platers are snapping them up due to the 'power' restrictions. Also i have found some insurance companies dont want anything to do with insuring type r's, pretty much for the obvious reasons of the car being broken into and seats stolen or just completely stolen and pulled apart for bits and pieces.

End of the day, best thing you can do for yourself is do as much research as you can on both cars and test drive both. From there you will be able to make a well informed decision as to which one you think will suit you more.

Also factor in resale time, i think it will be a bitch to resell an Autech S15. Due to the fact it is an import and there isnt much demand for one...

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

*waits for MOAR tear down*

[6-SpeedManual]

VTEC's overrated

I know. Just like your EG XD

[eg5civic]

Y::.;2020539']It would be expensive to insure a dc5r if the OP is from sydney. DC5R are considered a high risk car and also now considered by cops as a hoon car as so many p platers are snapping them up due to the 'power' restrictions. Also i have found some insurance companies dont want anything to do with insuring type r's, pretty much for the obvious reasons of the car being broken into and seats stolen or just completely stolen and pulled apart for bits and pieces.

End of the day, best thing you can do for yourself is do as much research as you can on both cars and test drive both. From there you will be able to make a well informed decision as to which one you think will suit you more.

Also factor in resale time, i think it will be a bitch to resell an Autech S15. Due to the fact it is an import and there isnt much demand for one...

Yeah as Fly said

call and get insurance quotes on both

End of the day its what you like better

take both for a drive/ go for a ride in each

BUt i disagree about the resale on any N/A car
with the new laws all N/A cars have gone up in price... cause of the new p plate laws

as they depreciate in value you'll find more kids will be interested in them

[eg5civic]

I know. Just like your EG XD

Eh

i was down at SAS

and i tell you know 57ING's s15 sounded liek a bag of shit down the main straight (no offense to him its a beautiful car but just engine note is rank)

SR20's (as alexx said) sound like a diesel truck going down the pit straight

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

Y::.;2020539']Also factor in resale time, i think it will be a bitch to resell an Autech S15. Due to the fact it is an import and there isnt much demand for one...

Sorry i have to disagree on one fact.

P-plate laws kicked in yo'

[6-SpeedManual]

Eh

i was down at SAS

and i tell you know 57ING's s15 sounded liek a bag of shit down the main straight (no offense to him its a beautiful car but just engine note is rank)

SR20's (as alexx said) sound like a diesel truck going down the pit straight


he probably has VCT rattle. its irrelevant.

[eg5civic]

he probably has VCT rattle. its irrelevant.

yeah sounded sorta liek that

but it is relevant

I mean, i love honda's for what they are, just liek you love your autech

To me the sound of VTEC is just pure awesome, to you the sound of sr20

Dont get me wrong man i have nothing against S15's i love them no doubt just like i love many other cars apart from honda's

But my opinion is i'd take the dc5R over the s15 autech
But a dc2R over both :P

[.::F[L]Y::.]

Sorry i have to disagree on one fact.

P-plate laws kicked in yo'

well the way i see it...buying an Autech S15 is like buying a Big mac without Meat patties LOL ;)

[eg5civic]

Y::.;2020584']well the way i see it...buying an Autech S15 is like buying a Big mac without Meat patties LOL ;)

Yeah my general rule of thumb is dont buy a car which is well know for being turbo in non turbo varient

Ex. Twins from school got an r33 skyine and think its a gtr or soemthing
same as another chick and her ex show car supra

Land barges with no power due to lack of turbo

not as bad for the s15 as its a relatively light car but still

[TODA AU]

Stock vs stock...
It's pretty close but I'd still favour the DC5.
Go & modify both, the DC5 has loads more potential.
The Autech is already tuned & there's not a great deal left in it.
(Has a nasty dissy too)

[VTECMACHINE]

Ahhhh, I love both. The Autechs go very very nicely.

Too hard to decide really. But S15 with no turbo just spoils it for me. DC5R has more potential as Toda AU has stated. So yeah end of the day i'd do DC5R.

[xtercii]

I own an autech s15. yes stock for stock power to weight ratio the dc5r prevails but autech has more torque to back it up. its even got more than the jdm model. 9,000 rpm red line. power peaks more as well. looks is really for you to decide. everyone obviously has different tastes. i'd doubt jdm silvia with full aero kit looses on looks to the DC5R. Autech S15 is literally Spec R fully equipped but missing a turbo charger. better bang for your buck.

9000rmp is hectic, is it a 2L or 1.6?

[kriZy]

i'd do dc5r as my first car.
then move onto turbo's later for EXTRA power when you get used to N/A.
you need driving experience before upgrading to a faster car.

[Dean Machine]

no vtec in an s15.. it sounds awesome

[CRXDEL501]

so S15 is overated huh? i can say exactly the same to DC5R/DC2R.

why bag out on a dc5/dc2 on ozhonda.

your a clown.

autech s15 :thumbdwn:

but mate.. get a dc5 i say. im biased i prefer dc2 but yeah. all it comes down to is personal preference.

[VTECMACHINE]

does it need to be p plate legal?


dc5r is ghey, id get a late model dc2r

:thumbsup:

[CRXDEL501]

you gotta love them :)

[Dean Machine]

DC2 ftw

[6-SpeedManual]

why bag out on a dc5/dc2 on ozhonda.

your a clown.

autech s15 :thumbdwn:

but mate.. get a dc5 i say. im biased i prefer dc2 but yeah. all it comes down to is personal preference.

i'm a "clown" am i? i did a fantastic job then. i certainly made you jump out of your seat.

[6-SpeedManual]

DC2 ftw

grow up.

[6-SpeedManual]

yeah sounded sorta liek that

but it is relevant

I mean, i love honda's for what they are, just liek you love your autech

To me the sound of VTEC is just pure awesome, to you the sound of sr20

Dont get me wrong man i have nothing against S15's i love them no doubt just like i love many other cars apart from honda's

But my opinion is i'd take the dc5R over the s15 autech
But a dc2R over both :P

yeah i get you man. sorry for the misunderstanding aye :)

[Q_ball]

6-SpeedManual and everybody else that decides to post here, on topic and factual.

Its fine to post your opinion, but do NOT diss another members opinion.

If you do so, you will receive infractions which will then lead to an immediate ban if the same posting behaviour continues.

[filip5]

how about a jdm dc2r

[kiwi135]

how about a jdm dc2r

i would but i prefer to get a DC5R (personally) if i had to choose between the DC2 and the DC5

[kiwi135]

Y::.;2020393']i vote s15. dont know about the autech ones though....


For those who think a dc5r looks better than an s15 :p
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3287/vu4ty0.jpg

oh so sxc

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

S13>all others Menioned here.

http://i36.tinypic.com/2af3nl.jpg

(Minus the Turbo and Intercooler)

[Q_ball]

Seriously though, it really depends on what you want from a car.

For daily fun, drivability and looks, get the s15.

For something thats got a lot of feel, balance and handling, get the dc5r.

[kiwi135]

yeah as fly said

call and get insurance quotes on both

end of the day its what you like better

take both for a drive/ go for a ride in each

but i disagree about the resale on any n/a car
with the new laws all n/a cars have gone up in price... Cause of the new p plate laws

as they depreciate in value you'll find more kids will be interested in them

i have 2 agree with you there

[LiKPiC]

hey ya'll. about to get me another car and just wonderin which one i should get. DC5R or an S15 Autech (and yes i do realise this site is for honda nuts im just wonderin which will be better to get)
just got on ma red p's and im located in NSW

you say you're getting another car, does this mean you currently have a car? if so, what car is it?

[LiL FiLo]

depends wat u want
both are really nice cars
if u like dori dori get the s15, lock the diff and off you go!
otherwsie vtec FTW on the itr

[Crapdaz]

dude, you're on a honda site and asking people to toss up between a honda and a nissan??... it's like going to maccas and asking is the zinger or a McChicken better...
nice analogy!

[xQuizit]

at the end of the day the choice is up to you, on which car you prefer. =]

[rpm boy]

Autec then turbo it when ur off ur p's

[kiwi135]

nice analogy!

not really

[kiwi135]

you say you're getting another car, does this mean you currently have a car? if so, what car is it?

does it really matter

[eg5civic]

Autec then turbo it when ur off ur p's


In saying that

DC5R then turbo it once off your P's

Same thing... cept the DC5R will be more unique and be a weapon

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

not forgetting that a a N/A Sr20 will be better boosted then the standard Sr20 due to its natural lower compression.

Wont be a HUGE difference but it will be there.

[kiwi135]

not forgetting that a a N/A Sr20 will be better boosted then the standard Sr20 due to its natural lower compression.

Wont be a HUGE difference but it will be there.

but difference it will still be

[eg5civic]

not forgetting that a a N/A Sr20 will be better boosted then the standard Sr20 due to its natural lower compression.

Wont be a HUGE difference but it will be there.

yeah but you wont be able to run as high a boost as a standard sr20det due to the higher compression

[FASN8U]

nice anal!

dont ask ,it just made me lol

[Type R Positive]

Id pick the DC5

[ChineseBoi]

not sure if you're still looking for peoples opinions but i would go for the s15 lol

[aimre]

Seriously though, it really depends on what you want from a car.

For daily fun, drivability and looks, get the s15.

For something thats got a lot of feel, balance and handling, get the dc5r.

What the hell are you on about???

Feel and handling? What u think and s15 is any less a sports car than an integra? 6speed RWD makes me think otherwise.

And Balance. HAHA about that. S15 has 2 wheels doing one job, while the other car has 2 doing all the work. 51/49 weight distribution.




Hell i had a fair bit of fun in my 40kw KE70. Why, cos it was RWD. I dont think some of you understand how much more fun a rwd can be.

Im not hating honda, i used to own one, but heck, if the option poped up ages ago to get an an S13 for the same price as an EG ages ago, i would have gotten that

RWD ftw

/thread

[Type R Positive]

What the hell are you on about???

Feel and handling? What u think and s15 is any less a sports car than an integra? 6speed RWD makes me think otherwise.

And Balance. HAHA about that. S15 has 2 wheels doing one job, while the other car has 2 doing all the work. 51/49 weight distribution.




Hell i had a fair bit of fun in my 40kw KE70. Why, cos it was RWD. I dont think some of you understand how much more fun a rwd can be.

Im not hating honda, i used to own one, but heck, if the option poped up ages ago to get an an S13 for the same price as an EG ages ago, i would have gotten that

RWD ftw

/thread
we are talking about crappy Autech here....

[rebound]

S13>all others Menioned here.

http://i36.tinypic.com/2af3nl.jpg

(Minus the Turbo and Intercooler)

Minus the hood as well eh Lloyd? :D


Both cars are awesome and it all comes down to what you want out of a car. Both cars are quite fast and both look sexy.

It will be a big step up from an excel, thats for sure. So just make sure when you do make your choice, get to know the car before you try and test your limits - legally of course :p

Both cars will also have a decent resale value if due to both being N/A and being P-Plater accessible.

[CRXDEL501]

we are talking about crappy Autech here....

lolzz

[FASN8U]

think about it , rwd might get you into abit of trouble if your easily temtped

[CRXDEL501]

think about it , rwd might get you into abit of trouble if your easily temtped

anything can get you into a bit of trouble haha

[Type R Positive]

anything can get you into a bit of trouble haha:p true!

[FASN8U]

anything can get you into a bit of trouble haha

lol true that

[kiwi135]

lol true that

true that: ive even got in trouble with my bloody excel

[CRXDEL501]

now that thats established lol..

personal preference man.

im a honda man, always have been

[Q_ball]

What the hell are you on about???

Feel and handling? What u think and s15 is any less a sports car than an integra? 6speed RWD makes me think otherwise.

And Balance. HAHA about that. S15 has 2 wheels doing one job, while the other car has 2 doing all the work. 51/49 weight distribution.




Hell i had a fair bit of fun in my 40kw KE70. Why, cos it was RWD. I dont think some of you understand how much more fun a rwd can be.

Im not hating honda, i used to own one, but heck, if the option poped up ages ago to get an an S13 for the same price as an EG ages ago, i would have gotten that

RWD ftw

/thread

Im not saying RWD isnt fun, stop diverging from the point.
My post is based on the majority of accounts from ppl that i know that have owned/driven both cars (stock), and this is their verdict.

For the record, i did say the s15 is for fun.
I never said the s15 was less of a sports car than the dc5r - i merely posted up facts.
Having 6 gears and being RWD doesnt mean shit - going off your POV, you'd class a Commodore as a sports car.

If you wanted a car for precision driving, something which the type r's have been engineered to do, the OP should get the dc5r.

[CRXDEL501]

^^^yepppp

[90LAN]

get a jdm s15 spec r my bro had one
they are nicer than a aus spec dc5r
if it was a jap spec dc5r then thats another story

[aimre]

Im not saying RWD isnt fun, stop diverging from the point.
My post is based on the majority of accounts from ppl that i know that have owned/driven both cars (stock), and this is their verdict.

For the record, i did say the s15 is for fun.
I never said the s15 was less of a sports car than the dc5r - i merely posted up facts.
Having 6 gears and being RWD doesnt mean shit - going off your POV, you'd class a Commodore as a sports car.

If you wanted a car for precision driving, something which the type r's have been engineered to do, the OP should get the dc5r.


The first half was my rebuttal to you, the second half (seperated by like 4-5 lines) was my experience/opinion.

Im not disagree with all ur post. just the "feel, handeling, balance" bit your on about.

[yuentinlon]

.... in AUS the DC5R is not a REAL TYPE - R !!! lower engine output , cheap brake, etc

go for S15 , i mean the jap spec 250hp [audm is 200hp] you can buy it for just 20000 or less , even cheaper than a FAKE- R ........

and also ... FR ... will give you more fun...

[kiwi135]

get a jdm s15 spec r my bro had one
they are nicer than a aus spec dc5r
if it was a jap spec dc5r then thats another story

im on ma red Ps

[kiwi135]

.... in AUS the DC5R is not a REAL TYPE - R !!! lower engine output , cheap brake, etc

go for S15 , i mean the jap spec 250hp [audm is 200hp] you can buy it for just 20000 or less , even cheaper than a FAKE- R ........

and also ... FR ... will give you more fun...

yeh i was thinkin bout getn a JDM type r

[bodaas]

or get ep3R ,, it's around same price,

[jdmsinister]

would you be interested in a supra?

[MWAKU]

s15..........

[Sp00ny]

Im not saying RWD isnt fun, stop diverging from the point.
My post is based on the majority of accounts from ppl that i know that have owned/driven both cars (stock), and this is their verdict.

For the record, i did say the s15 is for fun.
I never said the s15 was less of a sports car than the dc5r - i merely posted up facts.
Having 6 gears and being RWD doesnt mean shit - going off your POV, you'd class a Commodore as a sports car.

If you wanted a car for precision driving, something which the type r's have been engineered to do, the OP should get the dc5r.

Hey Q,

I can appreciate where your coming from. However when it comes down to chassis engineering and balance...Honda fall far behind nissan. Honda however develop fantastic engines that will go.....and go......and go. Not saying nissan engines are crap the RB and SR are great but when it comes down to longetivety and reliability i think Honda come out ahead in alot of aspects.

What aimre was trying to say is with the S15 you get a better design base with greater overall potential. A RWD with great weight distribution. A DC5R does have great balance but as we know with the Type R variants of honda's they are pretty much pushed to their limit beyond any reasonable amount of modification (daily street driven car). Any car (within reason) can go well with chassis reinforcement and Stiffer suspension. Honda's just deliver this purpose built package from the factory ;).

*Preps for flaming* lol :p

My Solution: A S15 Chassis with a Spoon stroked F20C XD.
Also, looks wise I would think S15 Front with DC5 Rear, lol. It's probebly been done before.

Not to sure if I would buy an N/A S15 though. New P-Platers are restricted so it doesnt come down to a matter of choice between T and Non-T.

Verdict: I personally would probebly go for the DC5R. Purpose built but is more of a practical car for a P-Plater...FWD and less cop attention. Alot of P-Platers get this feeling that their invincable and RWD doesn't help that thought. Although you also do have to consider that the DC5R is technically illegal under the Power-to-Weight Ratio rule. Which I still think applies to Red P-Platers.

[DreadAngel]

Woah, slow down, Chassis Engineering? When did Honda fall behind Nissan? As far as I know, Nissan still playing catch up =|

Nissan's forte has been electronics, mot chassis/suspension perfection =|

One car great example of a FWD sports car, the other is a great example of a RWD sports car, I think thats about the best conclusion you're gonna get from this 9 page of writing...

Go test drive both and see what you like, both will deliever quite different flavours so its up to you =| No amount of writing and bullshit is going to swing you left or right...

[DOUBLE MOVEMENT]

DC5 due to it being rarer than S15 plus will cost less to replace tyres lol

[Sp00ny]

Woah, slow down, Chassis Engineering? When did Honda fall behind Nissan? As far as I know, Nissan still playing catch up =|

Nissan's forte has been electronics, mot chassis/suspension perfection =|

One car great example of a FWD sports car, the other is a great example of a RWD sports car, I think thats about the best conclusion you're gonna get from this 9 page of writing...

Go test drive both and see what you like, both will deliever quite different flavours so its up to you =| No amount of writing and bullshit is going to swing you left or right...

go test drive an S14/15, R32/33/34 etc then any Honda maybe excluding the NSX and the chassis response and rigidity is second rate in Honda's expessially the non type R's. Honda have their well (some may say over) engineered engines. Nissans have their drivetrain and chassis. Once you test drive stock for stock youll see what I mean. However their is also the arguement that nissan chassis have to be stronger to support rear differentials and a higher torque output anyway. Ask any drifter ;). Also I never said any thing about suspension. ;)

[Type R Positive]

or get ep3R ,, it's around same price,
That's a good suggestion... :thumbsup:

[Type R Positive]

Not to sure if I would buy an N/A S15 though. New P-Platers are restricted so it doesnt come down to a matter of choice between T and Non-T. Exactly! :)

[aaronng]

Everyone will always have their own preference. No point trying to impose your opinion onto someone else. I say test drive both and then make your decision. If you are on Ps, then the solution is simple, pick the non-turbo one.

[Crapdaz]

Everyone will always have their own preference. No point trying to impose your opinion onto someone else. I say test drive both and then make your decision. If you are on Ps, then the solution is simple, pick the non-turbo one.

and if you get the non honda GTFO of here!! joking :p

Original poster - got any pics of the cars?

[Type R Positive]

Everyone will always have their own preference. No point trying to impose your opinion onto someone else. I say test drive both and then make your decision. If you are on Ps, then the solution is simple, pick the non-turbo one.both are non-turbo....;)

[aaronng]

both are non-turbo....;)

Then test drive both and decide. Eventhough they have many differences, even the little things such as seat comfort will play a part in the decision making.

[barefootbonzai]

Girls will be more impressed if you drive a S15, so get one of them.

[Sp00ny]

Girls will be more impressed if you drive a S15, so get one of them.

LOL, haha. One key factor in vehicle selection xD

'tis probebly true though.

[cupnoodle]

anyone selling their cw dc5r?

[aaronng]

and if you get the non honda GTFO of here!! joking :p

Original poster - got any pics of the cars?

R35 GTR :p

[Type R Positive]

R35 GTR :p
Woot! And still be the envy of everyone with a Honda....... :cool:

[kiwi135]

would you be interested in a supra?

absolutely. can i get details

[kiwi135]

girls will be more impressed if you drive a s15, so get one of them.

lol!.

[Q_ball]

Think this threads gone way past its expiry.
The lesson learnt here, is that you need to build your own opinion and test drive these suckers.

^edit: and barefoot's post is true... they'll melt at the sight of one... i dont know why, lol, but the majority of chicks that ive spoken to, or have discussed cars with will say that they love the look of the s15.

Good luck in making ur choice.

[kiwi135]

LOL, haha. One key factor in vehicle selection xD

'tis probebly true though.

too true! lol!