illegal to have an older engine then the car ?

[schuebyTeG]

" i jsut realised ummm my civic is a 96 and lyk its illegal for me to
convert a motor which is older than my model car, so i wudnt be able to get it mod plated and stuff so it would be a defect"

Is this true?

I knew you can put an engine in if that body shape came with it at some stage.
I also think u can do a swap since the motors capacity is only increased by say .2 of a Liter ( say a b16 --> B18 )


But i havnt herd about the age of a car before...

If anything i would think the oppisite. a older engine would be slower then a newer once...(in general)

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

*palm face*

Its illegal to drive around with a engine older then the car/shell.

If the car is all LEGAL (i.e Blue slip,Pink Slip,Rego after conversion) then the place that did the conversion and or Blue slip was dodgy (VERY VERY DODGY!!!)

[mrwillz]

yeah it is

[trism]

its illegal to have an engine older than a chassis

the capacity increase is 15% over stock

[Red_EG4]

the capacity increase is 15% over stock
is that state authority specific? or Australia wide?

[trism]

thats NSW iirc

but it may be aus wide

[eg5civic]

NSW is 15%

QLD is 10% i know... i checkeddd :(

[VTec1987]

what abt a old gen1 b16a head on a newer civic?

[rawr]

If the displacement is increased more than the legal percentage (which is state specific) then you can get it engineered to make it legal, however it is illegal to place an engine in a car which is older than the chassis.

[ek4-guy]

i love the way people use the term illegal for these type things


it's not illegal to do because lots of race cars have engines older than the chassis


but it will not be compliant for road use

[trism]

the head should be right. It doesn't have an engine number on it

[ek4-guy]

oh and it can still be done in QLD but you have to have all relevant emission gear attached

i rang the QLD transport modification line because i had a rebuilt VP Commodore engine that cost me 7k and when i smashed the car i didn't really want to sell it and loose money

so i rang regarding the use of my bottom end into a VT Commodore as they are the same bottom end and the guy said it would be fine aslong as i used all the VT commodore top end and emission gear

[schuebyTeG]

thx guys....
sorry about your palm/face SHOGUNOVDDRK :P

[VTec1987]

the head should be right. It doesn't have an engine number on it

well if u say that then ur a dodgy as well then

[aimre]

*palm face*

Its illegal to drive around with a engine older then the car/shell.

If the car is all LEGAL (i.e Blue slip,Pink Slip,Rego after conversion) then the place that did the conversion and or Blue slip was dodgy (VERY VERY DODGY!!!)

Thats WRONG!!!!! You can compliance and older motor!!!

B16 etc is a b16, doesnt matter what year it came from. BUT, yes there is a but, you must use the emmision control devices from an engine equal to or newer than the car (eg, cat converters, EGR, resonators, etc).

Say ur cars a '01 and in '01 Bxx came out with 2 cats, but u buy a '96 Bxx engine.

U CAN put the '96 engine in your car, but u must install 2 cats instead of the one that that '96 motor may have come with.

[steve88]

SHOGUNOVDDRK is full of shit, read my thread

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=103292

i actually rang an engineer and RTA and i got the answers. that older engine/newer chassis is just a rule of thumb, no actual preset too that. its all dependent on emissions

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

SHOGUNOVDDRK is full of shit, read my thread

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=103292

i actually rang an engineer and RTA and i got the answers. that older engine/newer chassis is just a rule of thumb, no actual preset too that. its all dependent on emissions

Ive been misinformed as it seems.

Last time i rang the RTA in questing about this i was told that "though its the same engine and emissions you cannot legally register a 1984 EW4 in a 1986 honda civic"

Sorry that i had been misinformed.