[CU2] HIDS *installed* in a Standard CU2

[nesterjester]

PICTURES .... 56K WARNING!


After a lot of rooting around, patience, and messing around under the hood. I finally installed my 6000k HIDS on my standard euro.
The process was relatively easy, but the tight space and little accessibility makes it a little difficult. It was a really tight squeeze. REALLY TIGHT!
But the good thing was that I was able to adjust the height of the beam with the headlight level adjustment that comes standard in the cu2 (As Type R Positive suggested). And have had no problems with it so far....

For people who are thinking about installing HIDS on the standard model..
Heres a few things I found easier for me ...

LEFT HEADLIGHT
*For the left side light, best way to undo the stock headlights is to turn the wheels all the way to the right, undo the screw in the wheel arch, and reach your in and turn the light cover tab anti clockwise.
*Unhook the light by unhooking the wire hook that is securing the light.
*Pull both (2) connectors off the light housing, and pull the existing bulb out.
*I found it easier to pop the bonnet, and undo the wires connected to the light. And to install the HIDS, it was easier putting the HID bulb in through the wheel arch rather than through the bonnet.
*Connecting the HIDS will depend on the kit you've got.

RIGHT HEADLIGHT
*I found it easier on the right side to move the container and unhook the tab just like the right side, by undoing it anticlockwise
*If you cant do it, move the wheels to the left, and undo the wheel housing cover.
*Same process as left side, but in this case, I found it easier to mount the mounting bracket as there was more space.


I'll post more better pics when I get some time, these were rushed.

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Feel free to share your thoughts ....:p

[Type R Positive]

Good stuff mate!!! Might just have to do it now....
What kit did you use?

[nesterjester]

haha , for some reason knew it would be you with the first reply...
the kit i used was phillips h1 6000k kit.
It's a really good quality kit. Even though the ballast is a little chunky, theres a heap of space under the bonnet, so had no problems mounting the bracket.
I ended up just getting 6000k HB3 halogen bulbs, and they are just as bright as my HIDs, just not as defined as HIDS.

If I had 6000k HB3 HIDS... well I would be talking about some serious brightness there .... hahaha ...

[Type R Positive]

Ya just need high beams too! :p
Philips are great, I have priced some here in Perth for $500.
The euro might have to wait though, been driving the Prado around at dusk / night because the roo's are getting pretty bad here.

[nesterjester]

i was able to get a phillips hid kit for $330 here in brissie.
it just didnt come with the original packaging. It still had the manual, wrapped in bubble wrap, etc.
I believe there's a site where you can get them, ill post up the link when I can.

[Type R Positive]

sweet.

[VTECACCORD]

Would you be able to take another pic against a wall perhaps ?

Just want to see what the cut off is like on the stock projectors.

Thanks :)

[nesterjester]

yea sure mate, ill try to get my cam up and running, how far from the wall do u reckon?

[EUR003act]

congrats buddy! looks good... beam angle/cutoff is very good... shouldnt annoy other drivers which is bonus! lol :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[nesterjester]

congrats buddy! looks good... beam angle/cutoff is very good... shouldnt annoy other drivers which is bonus! lol :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

hey thanx mate,
ill post more pics wen it gets a bit darker....

[jjvv]

the low beam is HB3?

[nesterjester]

no the high beam is hb3 ... the low beam is h1

[shakkas]

nesterjester, if you dont mind me asking, how much did the hid kit cost?

[nesterjester]

nesterjester, if you dont mind me asking, how much did the hid kit cost?

$330 inc GST, for my Phillips.
Installed an eBay kit on my mates CU2 standard the other night, and its actually not all that bad. Just has a lower cut off, and a lower "wide" angle. Other than that, theres no real major difference IMO.

[nesterjester]

I'll post more pics up tonight.

[Type R Positive]

Bump!

[denot]

now I kno what thread u were trying to bump Type R... Can any1 else post their HID pics on the Str CU2 (if they've installed one)?

[Phatboy]

Bump!

Thank you! Type R!

Quite helpful!

[Euro_CU2]

Looks nice... whiter and brighter... might change the position lights to white LEDS too.

[nesterjester]

i chhanged my position lights to white as well, and it doesnt make much difference as in lighting distance. Pure cosmetic, and makes it look uniform.

Drove up Mt Cootha at night with the HIDs, made all the difference, and worked better than I thought in the fog.:thumbsup:

[Euro_CU2]

Yeah thats why i wanna change mine for the same reason ... looks better the the standard yellowish colour,...

[jjvv]

i got a Standard CU2, and i brought a set of HID. i have no idea how to reach the low beam H1. Do i have to take the whole Headlight out?

[denot]

i got a Standard CU2, and i brought a set of HID. i have no idea how to reach the low beam H1. Do i have to take the whole Headlight out?

Wow, I'm surprised that its not listed on the manual...

[jjvv]

is it like Civic, should install from the bumper instead of engine bay?

[nesterjester]

i got a Standard CU2, and i brought a set of HID. i have no idea how to reach the low beam H1. Do i have to take the whole Headlight out?

I posted this in another thread...
you have to reach for it where the wheel guard is near your front wheels ...

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=102940

[nesterjester]

whoops sorry about that wrong thread.
I posted a little how to, on the first post of this thread.

[denot]

I'll re-post them here for you mate...

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For people who are thinking about installing HIDS on the standard model..
Heres a few things I found easier for me ...

LEFT HEADLIGHT
*For the left side light, best way to undo the stock headlights is to turn the wheels all the way to the right, undo the screw in the wheel arch, and reach your in and turn the light cover tab anti clockwise.
*Unhook the light by unhooking the wire hook that is securing the light.
*Pull both (2) connectors off the light housing, and pull the existing bulb out.
*I found it easier to pop the bonnet, and undo the wires connected to the light. And to install the HIDS, it was easier putting the HID bulb in through the wheel arch rather than through the bonnet.
*Connecting the HIDS will depend on the kit you've got.

RIGHT HEADLIGHT
*I found it easier on the right side to move the container and unhook the tab just like the right side, by undoing it anticlockwise
*If you cant do it, move the wheels to the left, and undo the wheel housing cover.
*Same process as left side, but in this case, I found it easier to mount the mounting bracket as there was more space.
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[Type R Positive]

God I :love: forums for info!

[GTrain]

Hi,
This is my first post!
I read in the noob forum that installing these hid yourself can make you liable in a crash. I want to install HIDs to my new euro that im picking up tonight but possible liablity is a big put off, especially if insurance decides not to pay up if anything happens...

Is this true?

[LiquiDSound]

ah, know this is an old thread..
If your philips kit looks like this.. its fake
http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2009-04DSale32276605.htm

[Type R Positive]

ah, know this is an old thread..
If your philips kit looks like this.. its fake
http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2009-04DSale32276605.htm
Wheres the real one for comparison?
Fake phillips was bound to happen sooner or later...

[denot]

Hey guys, just install 6000K HID on my CU2. took 4 hours for me to do (two noobs doing this by ourself :p). Happy with the result, just need to replace the rest of the bulbs now (parker, interior)

[Type R Positive]

Seems like I have to get my ass into gear and do it myself!
What kit did you use Denot?

[denot]

^^^ bought a second hand one from one of the member here (thanks end07!) But in the future I will change it to a better one (MTEC?)

[nesterjester]

^^^ bought a second hand one from one of the member here (thanks end07!) But in the future I will change it to a better one (MTEC?)

Just a quick question out of curiosity...
Are there much difference between cheaper HIDS and the more expensive?

Does it really effect it in respect to brightness and how widespread the beam is?

[Mr_will]

if you have the stock housings, you are an idiot.

they blind oncoming traffic without proper housings.

[Type R Positive]

if you have the stock housings, you are an idiot.

they blind oncoming traffic without proper housings.
we will just ignore you for now.....

[denot]

^^^ lol agreed

[albii]

Someone tell that noob that the CU2 has an adjusting low beam switch on the dashboard.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes:
BTW, did mine and it's a massive difference.

[Type R Positive]

Someone tell that noob that the CU2 has an adjusting low beam switch on the dashboard.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes:
BTW, did mine and it's a massive difference.
Yep, it sure does.

I live in the country, and drive a fair bit at night.
You know how hopeless low beams is on the highway at night?
Now, I can still use highbeams coming up behind someone, with out pissing them off, or effecting my own visability. same goes driving towards someone. :)

[Mr_will]

Someone tell that noob that the CU2 has an adjusting low beam switch on the dashboard.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes:
BTW, did mine and it's a massive difference.

dude you just copped the owning of a lifetime over in that poll thread, so put a sock in it :)


either way, stock housings werent designed for HID's so its silly.

[Type R Positive]

either way, stock housings werent designed for HID's so its silly.
You could say that about any modification. Now please dude.....

[albii]

dude you just copped the owning of a lifetime over in that poll thread, so put a sock in it :)


either way, stock housings werent designed for HID's so its silly.

And u drive a pus integra from 2 decades ago..say hello to 1989 for me.:wave::wave::wave:

[Mr_will]

And u drive a pus integra from 2 decades ago..

u still here.....quick get the airfreshener..

lol.

i dont need a car to make me feel better about myself.

what are you compensating for?

also i think you mean pOs, not pUs, but thats ok wouldnt expect you to know the difference :)

[albii]

pus...you man dildo..u know the infected yellow stuff that comes out of a weeping gash..That sir is your vehicle.

[denot]

either way, stock housings werent designed for HID's so its silly.

eventhough the CU2 lux has HID already (with washers n all) and we just change the bulb? that is still considered as "stock housings" right?

[felixd]

pus...you man dildo..u know the infected yellow stuff that comes out of a weeping gash..That sir is your vehicle.

cmon Boys keep it clean PLEASE .

[Mr_will]

pus...you man dildo..u know the infected yellow stuff that comes out of a weeping gash..That sir is your vehicle.

lol. i drive a 350z, so go suck on your jacked up 4wd :)

[nxn75u]

Relax guys... everyone is free to voice out their own opinion..

So back to topic, I reckon HID is essential for those who drive heaps late at night where there are insufficient street lights. However, if you are using very bluish HID, it will not only affect or worsen our visibility, it will also blind oncoming traffic.. 5k to 6k HID are allright.. Tats just my 2cts guys

[felixd]

treu dat but ....... hid with stock headlights in the rain they can be very dull n not that visible even with 6k / 5k hid's

[albii]

treu dat but ....... hid with stock headlights in the rain they can be very dull n not that visible even with 6k / 5k hid's

My aftermarket hids with stock projectors works really well in the rain,hail,sunshine or whatever.
I would understand and totally agree with you if you were only talking about reflector lamps.

[nxn75u]

treu dat but ....... hid with stock headlights in the rain they can be very dull n not that visible even with 6k / 5k hid's

Yea it sure does go a bit dull but at least its still visible.. Tats y we use foglights when it rains...try using 8k or 10k lights in the rain and you might as well turn off the headlamp.. hehe..

[denot]

wat abt stock HID 4300K?

[nxn75u]

wat abt stock HID 4300K?

Its heaps brighter when you drive normally but reflector lights still do a better job during rainy nights. I compared it to civic headamps n euro stock HID.

[dtngo]

My aftermarket hids with stock projectors works really well in the rain,hail,sunshine or whatever.
I would understand and totally agree with you if you were only talking about reflector lamps.
You can get wide glare from projector based headlamps - I see it all the time. The ones designed specifically for HID applications will have a harder cutoff.

Someone with aftermarket HIDs in their CU2 post some pics againts a wall about 3-5m away.

[denot]

You can get wide glare from projector based headlamps - I see it all the time. The ones designed specifically for HID applications will have a harder cutoff.

Someone with aftermarket HIDs in their CU2 post some pics againts a wall about 3-5m away.

yup, mine is too wide :thumbdwn:

[redseven]

Resurrecting an old thread, I'm also interested in getting an HID kit for my standard CU2 without HIDs.

I found these specs in the manual:
High beam: 12V - 60W(HB3)
Low beam: 12V - 35W(D2S) or 12V - 55W(H1)

So that means even CU2's with factory HIDs only have it on the low beam, not a bi-xenon hi/lo setup? To those who have done the mod, do you have to use the headlight adjustment switch to get them to point lower for less glare? The current low beams are in a projector housing so I assume dropping in D2S bulbs wouldn't cause too much glare compared to reflectors.

Any recommendations on good kits which aren't too expensive? Coverage, color temp and cutoff should be close to stock HIDs.

Edit: found out the 2011 Euro and Japan Accords have bi-xenons, adaptive cornering headlights and a light control system... I want these! http://tsx.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=809360

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[denot]

Those are in the new model. Pre facelift only have hid in lowbeam, our new model has bixenon

[redseven]

Too bad, the Spiriors here didn't get bi-xenons even for 2011. I wonder if these facelift lights be retrofit into a car without xenons. You'd need a signal to switch the beam mask between low/high beams at least.

Then the cheapest option would be to fit 55W H1 HID bulbs for the low beams. You mentioned the beam was too wide, did it end up blinding oncoming traffic? And any recommendations for good kits?

[I CU2]

There's already someone here fitting the bi-xenons onto the pre-facelift. There's another thread on the first page about headlights where he posted about it.

[Ste]

do you need to do some drilling in installing the hid?

[BigBen]

do you need to do some drilling in installing the hid?

No drilling required.

[ChaosMaster]

Didn't want to start another thread so I'll post here. I've just had HID 6k installed in my CL9. They project a weird shape. Is this normal? They also take a while to warm up to brightness... any thoughts?
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[Havocwreaker]

There's already someone here fitting the bi-xenons onto the pre-facelift. There's another thread on the first page about headlights where he posted about it.


I looked around for this post, because I'm looking to do the same. Could you give me a pointer?

[EuroGraphite]

@ChaosMaster: The disadvantage of using the stock headlight housing for HID is the beam pattern. The different light emission from a filament vs. HID bulb is the main reason you won't get the same results as those projects specifically made for HID bulbs. While you will get 'more' light output, the dispersion means the light will be less useable. I installed aftermarket HID's in previous cars but found that a good quality bulb (e.g. Phillips X-treme Vision http://www.lighting.philips.com.au/v2/automotive/productrange.jsp?id=1088066&app=car_&vp=more light&va=more light) is a good alternative to the oem. While they dont produce the coveted 'white' light, they perform noticeably better than oem bulbs.

Regardless of oem or aftermarket HIDs, it normally takes 2-3secs for HID bulbs to settle when you switch them on.

hth

[ChaosMaster]

Thanks hth. So you reckon if I just switch the globes of my HID, it'll reduce that pattern? I read somewhere that there was some adjustment available, and I've seen the writing on the plastic covers of the headlight housing. What adjustment is that for?

[chunsa]

^ try rotating the bulbs inside the housing? I remember reading that somewhere. Still HID kits provide too much light output but not good enough for useful output compared to stock globes

BTW you can't just switch the globes in your HID kit to the Phillips X-treme vision if that is what you were thinking of doing. You need to go back to halogen globe set up with better output globes OR accept that HID kits don't produce the same effect as proper HID headlights such as the ones in the Luxury models.

[EuroGraphite]

Thanks hth. So you reckon if I just switch the globes of my HID, it'll reduce that pattern? I read somewhere that there was some adjustment available, and I've seen the writing on the plastic covers of the headlight housing. What adjustment is that for?

I assumed that you had non-HID headlight housing and bought an aftermarket HID kit...hope that is correct..

Not sure if turning the bulb is possible due to the 'ridges' that hold it in place but may be worth a try. The typical adjustment probably refer to repointing the projector up/down/side-to-side to minimise the dispersion problem. You can do that on most housings, but if they have auto height adjust, it may not be possible. I am not familiar specifically with the honda light housing, but normally, a couple of adjustment screws will be visible.

p.s. hth = hope this helps :)

[EuroGraphite]

BTW you can't just switch the globes in your HID kit to the Phillips X-treme vision if that is what you were thinking of doing. You need to go back to halogen globe set up with better output globes OR accept that HID kits don't produce the same effect as proper HID headlights such as the ones in the Luxury models.

good summary there!

[ChaosMaster]

Ah, thanks guys. Yeah, I'll try flipping them. Their an aftermarket kit, not the proper Honda ones as they cost quite a bit. I noticed that the actual globe on these kit have a piece of metal or some sort running down the bottom of it, might flip to see if that makes a difference. It is manual adjustable, but again, still not sure what they do, does it move the projector section backwards or forwards or something?

[HunterZero]

Yeah that definitely looks like the halogen projectors are scattering the light from the HIDs upwards. That looks like it would dazzle oncoming drivers, and most probably fail roadworthiness due to dodgy beam pattern.

I don't think you can adjust that with those globes without changing out the projector lens.

- HZ

[I CU2]

Didn't want to start another thread so I'll post here. I've just had HID 6k installed in my CL9. They project a weird shape. Is this normal? They also take a while to warm up to brightness... any thoughts?

It's normal if you put a HID kit in stock halogen projectors. The internals of the projector headlights focus and scatter to the middle while a HID projector has a very clean and sharp cut off line and lights up everything underneath.

[BigBen]

readjust the beam/headlight level, at least you will not be blinding other drivers on the road.

[ChaosMaster]

Yeah, well, the light doesn't seem to be shining any higher than with the halogen on (when aimed directly at the garage wall). It's just the projection of those shapes, which look like an outline of the globes themselves, which seems odd.

[I CU2]

The outlines are glare to oncoming traffic.

Can you hunt down any Euro Luxury headlights?

[ChaosMaster]

The outlines are glare to oncoming traffic.

Can you hunt down any Euro Luxury headlights?

I guess I could, but then that'll be an expensive option. And again, as I said, they aren't aimed any higher than what my stock halogen were anyway. The only difference is the shape below. Doesn't seem to be much brighter as most people claim, maybe it's because I went down the cheap path and got a chinese kit.

[EuroGraphite]

If you compare the light above the cut line using halogen vs. HID in the stock housing, its much brighter with the HID's. This tends to dazzle the oncoming traffic unfortunately.

Whether the kit is chinese/jap/german, it doesnt make that much of a difference in terms of beam pattern. The difference is in the robustness and efficiency of the ballasts and the longevity of the bulb, along with how stable the colour is throughout its life.

[ChaosMaster]

True, well I'll try adjusting it lower tmr. Still annoyed about the beam pattern on the ground though, don't get how there can be a bulb outline projected from each light.