V8Supercars Homebush 2009

[jdm_b16a]

I'm curious what people's reactions are to this event, to be held late 2009 around the streets of Homebush?

I would be interested in comments, both for and against, or even if you don't care one way or the other.

Peter

[tseesinngwailo]

There's no Civics, Integra's, NSX , or S2000's racing, so count me out. I hate the fact we live in a country where the top (so they consider it) racing class is made of 2 different cars, both running dinosaur technology (pushrod V8's lol) and this will cost all of us in one way or another (taxes to pay for it)

Super GT here would be much better if it could ever be arranged.

Thats my devalued 2 cents

[jdm_b16a]

Apparently they haven't even built the Townsville track yet due to difficulties with the land (it previously being a swamp or something). They put a bulldozer on it and it had to be rescued after it sank!

The long range weather forecast for the area is for heavy monsoonal rains so beats me how they will get the facilities finished for the scheduled round early 2009.

I think V8SA is struggling, what with Holden and Ford pulling sponsorships, and now the V8SA have set up a Commission to look at how they can convince other manufacturers to come in.

They need Government (read: taxpayers $$$) to prop them up. Shame Rees caved in to them here after Carr rejected them and Iemma held out for so long.

I agree with your idea of a more interesting category, like Super GT. More makes, more stylish cars, better technology, high speeds, great sound.

Peter

[Petronas]

Apparently they haven't even built the Townsville track yet due to difficulties with the land (it previously being a swamp or something). They put a bulldozer on it and it had to be rescued after it sank!

The long range weather forecast for the area is for heavy monsoonal rains so beats me how they will get the facilities finished for the scheduled round early 2009.

I think V8SA is struggling, what with Holden and Ford pulling sponsorships, and now the V8SA have set up a Commission to look at how they can convince other manufacturers to come in.

They need Government (read: taxpayers $$$) to prop them up. Shame Rees caved in to them here after Carr rejected them and Iemma held out for so long.

I agree with your idea of a more interesting category, like Super GT. More makes, more stylish cars, better technology, high speeds, great sound.

Peter

Didn't Toyota want to come into the series a couple years back? I think the vast majority of people involved in V8 Super Cars were against it...

Whats the situation on the topic now? Do they still want only Holden & Ford or are they open to other manufacturers?

[jdm_b16a]

Do they still want only Holden & Ford or are they open to other manufacturers?

Ford have pulled nearly all their sponsorship except for a couple of teams, and Holden are struggling with their teams. They now have to deal with Walkinshaw as well, as he's just relieved Skaife of HRT. Holden have closed some of their factories since they are importing more cars now from places like Korea.

The motorsport press have run with the Toyota story on numerous occasions but Toyota aren't interested because they would have to build a car to V8SA specs.

My opinion is Ford/Holden have continued to perpetuate the myth that Australia is a big country and we should all drive big cars. Not so anymore. It's cheaper to fly than drive long distances, and caravans are a thing of the past (in my experience anyway).

That's why smaller cars, like Hondas, are better suited to our driving needs. The reason the big 3 are in trouble in the US is because they refused to see that the time of the big petrol guzzler is over. It's almost the same here.

Peter

[LiL FiLo]

despite all the technicalaties.... i think v8's @ homebush will b a good race to watch.. nice track, ive always loved the roar of a v8 and its only 10 min drive form where i live...

[xtercii]

where abouts in Homebush?

[d15z1SUX]

i think its too hard for a new manufacturer to enter v8 supercars now with the rules they have in place...

[DreadAngel]

Stupid name in the first place, V8 Supercars even though its still the Australian Touring Car Championship or whatever... Using parts that aren't even Australian (American, Japanese, European) yet they refuse to open it up cause they're still trying to protect the "Australian" manufacturers Ford and Holden even though a big portion of their cars are or will be imported... *rant rant rant*

They need more circuits street and GT circuits but where? =|

As the current rules and teams stand, you're not going to get anything in at all. I say just kill the stupid V8 Supercar shit and open it up before their patroitic Aussie shit got up their ass and started banning cars for no reason other than they beat the shit out of their best cars...

[tiksie]

I thought it was at Olympic Park ? Not Homebush :/

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

Didn't Toyota want to come into the series a couple years back?

I thought they did.

Shame they didn't


where abouts in Homebush?


I thought it was at Olympic Park ? Not Homebush :/

I actually believe they are going to use 3/4 of the whole area.

cannot find the pics i had before of what they propose for the track

[rpm boy]

Its olympic park around the stadium and all that...ozhonda cruise on the day, Try keeping up with 700hp V8's

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

hahahahahaha.

where they have to slow down for corners we will vtak them.

[jdm_b16a]

The track goes around Olympic Park, past the big pit that is home to the green frog and past all the commercial enterprises. They are going to tear up all the trees that were planted for the Olympics (and replace them with new ones but obviously not in the same place).

The local councils and some groups are still against this going ahead. A report in an Auburn newspaper (one of the Councils) says there is growing concern but the Minister dismissed it as irrelevant. He obviously doesn't know that the majority of people don't want this but he will probably find out at the next election.

Rees just wants the bragging rights but he is also out of touch with reality. He has been hoodwinked by the minority (V8Supercars). Anyone who has ever watched a telecast knows you don't see much of the surrounding area but Rees claims it will be good for tourism. What a joke!

The law passed by the Government (it passed by one vote in the NSW senate as people like Rev. Fred Nile sold out to the Government as did the Family First and Shooter's Party) gives the V8Supercar group rights to circumvent many of the pollution and environmental laws people have fought hard to get through. It removes control of the Olympic Park area from that body and hands it to the V8Supercar group for the duration of the event so they can charge spectators whatever they like in admittance fees. This is one of the reaons they skipped Eastern Creek because the ARDC refused to pay the V8Supercar sanctioning fee which has been going up every year.

Once Holden and Ford tighten their corporate belts and pull back their sponsorship even further the V8Supercar group will be struggling to continue.

All my own opinions of course.

Peter

[rom5]

It will be the final race of the championship year....its replacing oran park.
cant wait to watch it live with all the bogans:wave:

[silvia200sx]

It will be good if they open the track to the public! Going around the street circuit would be interesting...:p

[my_vtec77]

Traffic will be getting worse in Homebush bay drive and Silverwater road during the race. :thumbdwn:

[tron07]

they should open up the race and have a mix of other cars in the race... Class A - V8 supercars, Class B - V6, turbos or other big cc, Class C- small NA like Honda, etc, Open class - porsche, ferarri, supra, nsx, etc that dont fall in any class

It would be interesting to see smaller class of cars giving the V8 a hard time

[JasonGilholme]

it would be nice to see other races televised. lol

The only time i see the porches etc is when they're at bathurst. Alot of other times they race there but don't get tele time. I prefer watching the porches race and over/undertake each other through the twisties rather then having to watch this massive tank of a car waiting for a straight to overtake the guy in front.

[EfiOz]

Ford have pulled nearly all their sponsorship except for a couple of teams, and Holden are struggling with their teams. They now have to deal with Walkinshaw as well, as he's just relieved Skaife of HRT. Holden have closed some of their factories since they are importing more cars now from places like Korea.


Holden want Walkinshaw running Holden Motorsport. This was planned all aling and the paper shuffle into Marks name was to dodge the liquidation proceedings of Arrows back in the UK. Skaife was also well looked after for his loyalty to the corporation.

[EfiOz]

Once Holden and Ford tighten their corporate belts and pull back their sponsorship even further the V8Supercar group will be struggling to continue.

All my own opinions of course.

Peter

And also once the state govt's start realising that the Clipsal 500 is the only street race that's ever made money.

Remove the govt handouts and the Ford/GM cash trough and they don't have a business left.

[EfiOz]

it would be nice to see other races televised. lol

The only time i see the porches etc is when they're at bathurst. Alot of other times they race there but don't get tele time. I prefer watching the porches race and over/undertake each other through the twisties rather then having to watch this massive tank of a car waiting for a straight to overtake the guy in front.

Porsches are too common. You need to get on this.

Australian GT Championship (http://www.gtchampionship.com.au/)

[AKmotorworks]

only common in the rear view, behind ur cars pat ;)

[Type R Positive]

I'm curious what people's reactions are to this event, to be held late 2009 around the streets of Homebush?

I would be interested in comments, both for and against, or even if you don't care one way or the other.

Peter
I don't know what Homebush is like, but I think it will be a good thing for the sport, just like Townsville.

The Townsville race will be as big as Indy on the Goldy. ;)

[JasonGilholme]

Porsches are too common. You need to get on this.

Australian GT Championship (http://www.gtchampionship.com.au/)

i was just refering to broadcasting other current races that tag along with the V8's.

I'd love to see something totally different. GT would be great.

[EfiOz]

Subscribe and watch.

http://au.youtube.com/user/AUSTGTCHAMPIONSHIP

[tron07]

This is heaps better then the V8 supercar

[silvia200sx]

i was just refering to broadcasting other current races that tag along with the V8's.

I'd love to see something totally different. GT would be great.

We get to see F1 broadcasted and Moto GP. We sometimes get to see the production cars, Porsches etc on TV as well!:D

[silvia200sx]

GOOD NEWS

The finale of the V8 Supercars is confirmed to be held at Homebush in December ;)

I think they had a opening special at Martin Place today- selling tickets for around $80, as they say it would cost more from ticketek- too bad I'm at work to check it out- anyone go to it? :thumbsup:

[EfiOz]

Even better, the V10 Supercars will be there also.
http://www.compsystems.com.au/images/Customers/1966.jpg

[strider]

i'd love to watch a race in homebush

i also like the idea of a GT championship as the premier racing competition in Australia, like the JGTC in japan.

Fords and holdens against the best the world can offer

[d15z1SUX]

v8 supercars might b better if they retained some things like same engines as production cars? except they were allowed to build the internals...

[RtN]

they should allow cars like ae86s evos civics etc to race.. what's this v8 stuff lol

[silvia200sx]

Even better, the V10 Supercars will be there also.
http://www.compsystems.com.au/images/Customers/1966.jpg

That's awesome :p

But I don't think street cars will get a chance to go around this road track- probably similar rules to Albert Park I'd say :(

[90LAN]

enjoy this while you can
holden will be gone in 5 years
maybe owned by a asian car company
that would be funny as

[ek4-guy]

Sports sedans FTW

[90LAN]

Sports sedans FTW

sports family sedans FTW

[ek4-guy]

sports family sedans FTW

Wrong sedans Lan i ment as in the class sport sedans

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a186/RobRyan7/FalconSportsSedan.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a186/RobRyan7/FalconSportsSedan1.jpg

there is even a prelude in the class but i cant find any pictures other that in this link

http://www.sportssedans.com.au/news/sas-phil1-phil2.html

[EfiOz]

That's awesome :p

But I don't think street cars will get a chance to go around this road track- probably similar rules to Albert Park I'd say :(

That's not a street car, it's a Gallardo GT3 Evo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of9cun2e4Xo

Homebush info
http://www.australiangt.com.au/news/bathurstandhomebush.php

Obligatory customer pic (Real V8 Supercar)
http://www.compsystems.com.au/images/Customers/Ferrari/1369_web.jpg

[silvia200sx]

enjoy this while you can
holden will be gone in 5 years
maybe owned by a asian car company
that would be funny as

Probably even sooner as Chinese cars are coming out late this year or early next year to Australia :eek:

And Ford may be taken over by Indian company :o

[silvia200sx]

That's not a street car, it's a Gallardo GT3 Evo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of9cun2e4Xo



Cool video :thumbsup:

Yes I know the Gallardo isn't a street car...

I was meaning to say that we won't have a chance to drive the circuit in our own street cars :thumbdwn:

[hussLEr]

The Olympic/Homebush track:

http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq24/reckless138/homebushtrack.jpg

Doesn't appear all that technical or "thrilling" to me.

Too many 90 degree turns. Quite "boring" IMHO!..Oh wells, better than no Sydney street track!

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

This displeases shogun, alot.

Looks like I need a new shortcut to Bens house.