d series turbo

[denrie]

hey guys just wondering if anyone could give me any ideas about dong d series turbo..what set up... 1/4 time, on a d16a8 motor, advantages and disadvantages.

thanx

[hisoka]

theres heaps of threads about it on here if you really into it, then look them up bro~
my summary
advantages- you can get flutter
disadvantages- its slow but still costs alot lol.

buy your self a b16a half cut and swap the motor in, it will be cheaper and less hassles and fun~
If you are ever going to turbo a honda motor, make sure its actually a performance motor, a d series is a economic reliable daily mover kinda thing you know what i mean
good luck, close the thread before people come in here and brainwash you.

[EK1.6LCIV]

Mmm turbo D, there's alot of threads including many many members building them to all specs.

All worked well and can be built to a budget, altho like most things, the more you can afford to throw at it the better

Going B is a good idea but if you love D engines, they can be turboed, made reliable, and last just as long as a B-series engine, that's the truth. Heaps of info in the threads on this forum

[Sexc86]

theres heaps of threads about it on here if you really into it, then look them up bro~
my summary
advantages- you can get flutter
disadvantages- its slow but still costs alot lol.

buy your self a b16a half cut and swap the motor in, it will be cheaper and less hassles and fun~
If you are ever going to turbo a honda motor, make sure its actually a performance motor, a d series is a economic reliable daily mover kinda thing you know what i mean
good luck, close the thread before people come in here and brainwash you.



ahaha stfu ya hater


www.turbod16.com

[B20NA]

hey guys just wondering if anyone could give me any ideas about dong d series turbo..what set up... 1/4 time, on a d16a8 motor, advantages and disadvantages.

thanx

u will need piston's with about 8.5:1 comp, eg: je, srp, cp
you will need forged rods eg; eagle, probe, sainz
you will need machining and balancing and blueprinting block.
550cc injectors
fuel rail and sard reg
need good ignition system, eg; M&W CDI
INTERCOOLER
get your head serviced and clean the port's
slighty larger throttle body, tappered if you can get.
gt28 350-380hp turbo
adjustable cam gears
cam's use stock
turbo manifold, log style (cheaper)
k&n filter with velocity stack
microtech computer

this should yeild you between 150kws and 180kws atw on about 14psi

[hisoka]

also what is your budget,

sorry sexc86, iam all for turbos, but not in this d series motor, b series is okai, but d series lol ?? cant be serious~guess each to there own. how much it costs to do the setup posted above.

[Sexc86]

Everything comes down to value. This topic has been covered over and over again to death.

hisoka. Maybe you should drive/build/research one before you start makeing statements that isnt based on any experience.

Mods close this shit because we all know what circle this thred is going to go around in.

[A.C.S DRAG]

Hisoka, your not very open minded are you. Im all for B series, k series, turbo, non turbo, whatever...its all good as long as you build it right. Don't be jumping on the D series is shit bandwagon just because you are uneducated and ignorant.

My D16a8 Turbo motor was built 6 years ago, ive done countless quarter mile runs, it runs 21 psi daily on pump fuel and 30+ on racefuel, i take it to the shops and i take it to the track, it has never missed a beat. it runs standard drive shafts and a standard gearbox. if you think its shit, please bring your car up to the track and line me up and we'll let the cars do the talking.

[beeza]

Too true Lyle.

Let's talk d-series (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89578&highlight=talk+d-series)

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=97376

[hisoka]

i have driven more than one, and however it was pretty good, but the amount of money could not justify why it was being beaten by a NA b series over and over lol.

so yer my statements are based on experience, i would not have replied if i didnt think it was nessecary. oh well i guess he can decide, its his money~

edit follow the link posted by beeza to OP, got some info on there~.

to acs drag. i dont know what right you have to call me ignorant iam just stating the facts, maybe yours is fast and good, but i was just saying value for money kind of thing.

i will be happy to line you up in a car i have spent money on, however it is not honda. so this might be unfair

[beeza]

Hisoka, your not very open minded are you. Im all for B series, k series, turbo, non turbo, whatever...its all good as long as you build it right. Don't be jumping on the D series is shit bandwagon just because you are uneducated and ignorant.

My D16a8 Turbo motor was built 6 years ago, ive done countless quarter mile runs, it runs 21 psi daily on pump fuel and 30+ on racefuel, i take it to the shops and i take it to the track, it has never missed a beat. it runs standard drive shafts and a standard gearbox. if you think its shit, please bring your car up to the track and line me up and we'll let the cars do the talking.

Damn! stock driveshafts?!? 30 + psi!!! how???

:cool:

[Sexc86]

Na B series? Which one are your talking about? B16a/b16b/b18a/b18c/b18cr/b20/b20frank ?

The only one i see there that fits in the Basic turbo D budget is a b16a maybe a b18c. Thats for the engine in your car running. i doubt any significant mods on top.

Sure if you want to compare some freak b18cr or b20 Frank setup to some backyard build shittly low quality Dturbo then yeh your right. But then this argument is pointless. Being you can only compare by budget.

Eg 5k Dturbo Vs 5k Bseries. IN a similar car & circumstances. Not some 3k Dturbo in a heavy daily driver vs a 15k Bseries swap in a stripped to its guts drag car.



i have driven more than one, and however it was pretty good, but the amount of money could not justify why it was being beaten by a NA b series over and over lol.

so yer my statements are based on experience, i would not have replied if i didnt think it was nessecary. oh well i guess he can decide, its his money~

edit follow the link posted by beeza to OP, got some info on there~.

to acs drag. i dont know what right you have to call me ignorant iam just stating the facts, maybe yours is fast and good, but i was just saying value for money kind of thing.

i will be happy to line you up in a car i have spent money on, however it is not honda. so this might be unfair

[hisoka]

yer ok, i didnt really ask them how much they spent, i know the d series was about 6 or 7 ish. and it was vs a B18C.

yer i dont really mean there slow. i have actually seen one in japan , a customer from HKS has it. D series vtec and turbo so yer i guess can be good.

i didnt mean to jump into fight~iam just saying could be more cost economical to get b16a. because most turbo parts are coming in from america could hurt the wallet. were as b series some workshops alreaddy have . yer anyway he can do whatever. any build can be good with quality ...

[A.C.S DRAG]

ok, so if you read the guys original question, he refers to the d16a8 motor, do you even know what motor that is?

cost wise? if you spend 5k dumping a b18c2 motor in your car, no mods you'll be lucky to see 115 fwkw. before i built my motor, i slapped on the turbo to my d16a8 @ 8psi i almost doubled my power output @ 131fwkw. i have dyno papers to prove this.

if you want to race me like that, bring what ever you have, ill just take my bike out against you. if you can beat a 10.2 quarter ill bow down.

[Sexc86]

yer ok, i didnt really ask them how much they spent, i know the d series was about 6 or 7 ish. and it was vs a B18C.

yer i dont really mean there slow. i have actually seen one in japan , a customer from HKS has it. D series vtec and turbo so yer i guess can be good.

i didnt mean to jump into fight~iam just saying could be more cost economical to get b16a. because most turbo parts are coming in from america could hurt the wallet. were as b series some workshops alreaddy have . yer anyway he can do whatever. any build can be good with quality ...


Yeh no problems mate im sure you mean well and not out there to cause problems. Sometimes i find people just say things without any real knowledge behind is, more because its the "cool thing" or "word going around". All my argument is that if you want to compare something you have to compare by Price.

If you are talking economy. Before boost i got 450ks per tank and after boost (and double my power figure) i still get 140ks per tank. Its all about how you drive it. There are just as many distributers selling FI as NA locally, without paying through the roof. I dont insist that people go down any path, but id rather people to get some accurate infomation. They can make up their own mind.

[beeza]

Before boost i got 450ks per tank and after boost (and double my power figure) i still get 140ks per tank. Its all about how you drive it.

Are those figures right Lyle,450km/tank before boost an140km/tank after?

[hisoka]

ok, so if you read the guys original question, he refers to the d16a8 motor, do you even know what motor that is?

cost wise? if you spend 5k dumping a b18c2 motor in your car, no mods you'll be lucky to see 115 fwkw. before i built my motor, i slapped on the turbo to my d16a8 @ 8psi i almost doubled my power output @ 131fwkw. i have dyno papers to prove this.

if you want to race me like that, bring what ever you have, ill just take my bike out against you. if you can beat a 10.2 quarter ill bow down.

lol man i dont want to race, you are just trying to start arguement, can do pretty close to 11 if that counts in the car lol. i had bike before but i dont think it did 10.2 lol

and sexc86, yer iam in no d series is gay bandwagon, dont worry lol not trying to make enemies

[B20NA]

Hisoka, your not very open minded are you. Im all for B series, k series, turbo, non turbo, whatever...its all good as long as you build it right. Don't be jumping on the D series is shit bandwagon just because you are uneducated and ignorant.

My D16a8 Turbo motor was built 6 years ago, ive done countless quarter mile runs, it runs 21 psi daily on pump fuel and 30+ on racefuel, i take it to the shops and i take it to the track, it has never missed a beat. it runs standard drive shafts and a standard gearbox. if you think its shit, please bring your car up to the track and line me up and we'll let the cars do the talking.

Well said, i also owned a D16A8 Turbo CRX it also ran 18psi daily on pump gas and 25psi on the track, it also never missed a beat and only thing i changed was driveshafts once. factory gearbox. on 18psi i made 198kws atw and on the street i think i lost to 1 car a 20b rotary. so don't underestimate the d series, these days you can build a 150kw atw setup for less than 6k.

[Limbo]

generally any boosted car will be an easy match for an NA.
Unless the NA has had alot of work done to it, it hasn't got a chance.
A D series turbo, on a cheap budget can be had for less than $3k

let just take this as comparison.
ITR stock does 14.7 down qtr mile (not this is with a pro driver)
Most 120kw-130kw D series do low 14s from what i've seen.

[turtleEK1]

The d16a8 was one of the first performance motors built by Honda. They're a very strong motor that loves boost. Before the whole invasion of B-series swaps... boosting and building the twin cammed d16a8 was the thing to do.

If you plan to boost your stock motor, do some tests to the motor to make sure it's in good form. Like compression test etc. Don't worry about that if your going to rebuild.