Bargain or Piece of SHit?

[**Ghost**]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7928064803&category=33742#ebayphotohosting

if its good... say so cos i'm on the verge of ordering :D

[g3vtir]

hey when/if you get it. Let me know what's involved with fitting it to your car. What other parts did you have to buy for it to work and so on...coz ive been thinking of getting something similar..just not sure what's involved with it and whether i will be spending more just to get it put in.

[**Ghost**]

I've done a LITTLE research man... if i got that kit, at the minimal level (presuming i run low boost of 6psi daily)... i would need injectors, fuel pump, oil catch can/pan woteva they are called, and a ecu. Ur looking at prolly 500+ for install and tune i reckon

[g3vtir]

damn so it's gonna cost another 2000+ dollars to get it running...too expensive

[**Ghost**]

nah u can get it running pretty much when u buy the kit... though thats from what i know (which isnt much btw, ask Weq or someone first)

so along with the kit... u had better get a fuel pump straight away (200 bucks) some injectors (200 if u buy 2nd hand) and then somehwo mechanically retard ur ignition before u can afford an ECU to retard it for u

u'll prolly want to upgrade oil delivery system as well first (though i have NoooooooooOOOOOOOOOo idea exactlay wots involved) which i think involves some sort of oil catch can or somethinggg... u can upgrade ur sump later

basically its not going to cost u 2 grand above the kit... BUT thats presuming the kit is good, which i'm not sure about yet

[Weq]

u dont need a fuel pump or oil pump for a non-built setup.

that gear is shit. its SSautocrhome and they are know for shitty manifolds which WILL crack (the bracing, if any, does nothing, the welds suck) the turbo is a reco'd thing with crappy parts/seals used and the wastegate is horrific.. the only good part is the downpipe, but i hardly think u will retain A/C with a 3"'er on that setup. the last person i know who bought an SSAuctocrhome kit, the downpipe was no where near fitting :)

move along...!

[**Ghost**]

hahaha thanks weq : )

[poweredbyhonda]

For that kit you wil need to use the smaller radiator like the B16's. Weq is right. SSautochrome's manifolds have a good rep for cracking in a couple months of use. You'll need to buget a fair bit more if you want a decent power upgrade using forced induction. Main thing is the ecu. Don't skimp on the electronics and fuel side of things. Your ecu needs to be able to cope with boost (engine check light, limp mode!).

[**Ghost**]

thanks thanks alll : ) i know i need an oil pump and fuel punp and prolly something the on the lines of a Greddy Emanage... but i thought this woulda beena bargain package to get the essential things. ah well...

[Weq]

u dont need an oil and fuel pump if ur running stock bottomend... honda's are engineered well. if u go fuel pump (for whatever reason) u will need a new fuel pressure regulator because most, if not all, aftermarket pumps will increase ur fuel pressure.

[**Ghost**]

Hey, since this is my quesiton thread...and i dont wanna start another one to waste memory/badnwith/etc

can i ask wot a T70 Turbo is?

[Lyle_Style]

yeh man thats a pretty good price id say. but it is far from a complete kit as long as your understand that. Good to get your started though :)

[VTEC16]

Read the guys feedback - there is a heap of ppl saying that the turbo is phuked and doesnt fit etc etc

"horrible products, & communication. don't buy their turbos fair warning!!!"

"Turbo won't fit Eclipse as advertised. Seller will not respond to email or phone"

"Parts did not fit. I tried to contact seller. Paypal gave me my money back."

"Product really SUCKS!!! All mating flanges are bent. U get what U pay for."

"NEVER BUY FROM THESE GUYS. THEY DONT REPLY AND SENT ME A BAD TURBO."

"Never recieved item trying to get money back"

"Part didn't fit as adv. Buyer wouldn't return e-mails, calls or fax requests."

"bent fins, excess shaft play,dosent respond to emails. COMPLETE CRAP"

"Fast delivery, but no b bearing, turbo badly out of balance, needed 250$ repairs"

"never replies, sent wrong parts Will file complaint with ebay if no reply ASAP"

"the y pipe doesnt even fit, and they wont let me get a new one"

"Turbo did not fit. Housing would not clear engine block. Never replied to emails"

[pornstar]

yeah but the honkey in him says its cheap, so its wroth it :)

[silvia200sx]

never buy turbo from which supplier?

[KB]

Never trust a company advertising something as "Super 3' downpipe" or "Super b16a kit"

[silvia200sx]

oh right, well i try to stick to bigger names all the time i mean i believe u pay for wat u get

[SiR JDM]

After the feedback from that guy, even if its 1/2 retail price, I wouldn't touch it with a 100 ft pole.

[**Ghost**]

I've done some research on the web across like 6 forums (USCIVIC, HONDASWAP, HOMEMADE-TURBO, HONDATECH, HONDA-ACURA.NET,etc etc) and i have come across one general consensus: ITS SHIT :)

the mian complaints were not abotu the turbo however, it was the manifold, which started warpign and cracking around 2000miles (thats round 4000km right?) down teh track.

In any case, SSAUTOCHROME makes bad bad bad shit according to 90% of users, with only a few minorities expressing satisfaction with the durability and performance of the product.

Another common complain was that teh downpipe did not allow fro keeping of air conditioning and power steering as advertised, although most people who compalined about this were driving Em1s, most drivers of ek4s or EK-Hatch+B16A conversions had no problems.

The company did release a statement saying that tehir product had improved over time with R&D, experience, etc etc... but as of RIGHT NOW, i am not brave enough to try the product, although at that price i think we all agree that its VERY VERY tempting

Heres a quote to sum it all up

"SSAUTOCHROME is like Paris Hilton with aids. Everyone wants to bang her, and those that do... 9/10 get ****ed up and then 1/10 goes "HEY! i'm alrigth id ont know wot u guys are complaining about"... but 5 months down teh track the symptoms start showing

my advice for all ppl of ozhonda, dont bother. Although i must say i havent verified this by TRYING IT OUT, i dont think so many negative opinions can be all wrong

ps: one thing though, looking at their ebay reponses/feedback, u can say that theri negative feedback has decreased over time, but when u look at the feedback, and the archtypical "comments" u can tell they have been fabricated... u can read so many "GOOD PRODUCT A+++++" before it gets sus

[madgrk]

If you are planning on adding a turbo to ANY motor, why waste your time/money on cheap pathetic parts that won't hold? As VTEC16 said, all it needed was to read the comments made. I would NEVER buy anything off Ebay like that, especially if you didn't have proof (Dyno Sheets, speaking face to face) that the product works. You arent buying a gear knob or a steering wheel, this is a whole bunch of components that either work, or dont. Skimp on parts and you WILL regret it in the end. I know others have.

[Sp3rMz]

http://firesport.ipspace.com/?section=item&action=show&id=12497

[Kawasaki]

dude just get a greddy bolt on kit or a blitz bolt on. Never go cheap of your car, it drives you places, it takes all the crud you give it and more, so give your car something back.

But NA owns turbo anyday!!!! Its the honda way to be NA

[joyride]

ghost, where are you located?
if youre in melbourne, you should speak to pornstar.
i sopke to him sometime 2 weeks ago about putting together a turbo kit for a civic, he knows his stuff.
someone probably already told you this.
oh well.

[poweredbyhonda]

dude just get a greddy bolt on kit or a blitz bolt on. Never go cheap of your car, it drives you places, it takes all the crud you give it and more, so give your car something back.

But NA owns turbo anyday!!!! Its the honda way to be NA


Here we go, another gay N/A fan. You cannot beat Turb in N/a fullstop. I'll let you spend $50k on your N/A car and I'll still beat ya in reverse! :D

Also re: Pornstar, he is gay but can hook you up with a great package that will surely beat anyother kit on the market by price, quality and power full stop. He'll even lick your arse if you asked for it as a part of a deal :) :honda: .

[pornstar]

omg ur so ghey f4g! then again my car is slow now :P

[Weq]

http://92civic.tripod.com/ good read on these products

[xKx_31]

The manifold cost roughly USD$100+ for cost. I have got one but I bought it at a sample price which is very expensive.

Didnt have the chance to use it though as i sold the car.