E10 (ethanol-blended fuel) for Euro

[by-life]

Hi, just a question,

Whether Euro can use Shell Unleaded E10 (ethanol-blended fuel)?

[JDM-EGG]

you wouldnt wanna use that for ur car since its still a fairly new car .. shell vortex is the way to go :) , i guess u still can but it wouldnt run as good as the premium fuel mate

[tony1234]

Hi, just a question,

Whether Euro can use Shell Unleaded E10 (ethanol-blended fuel)?
Yes it can.Personally i wouldn't use it.I use either Mobil 8000 or Caltex Vortex.both are 98 RON

[MSKYO]

I believe the euro was on a list of cars which can run E10 published by the government. I could be wrong but I read somewhere that E10 is the quivalent of 94RON. Personally I wouldn't touch the stuff. I've been using either BP Ultimate or Mobil Synergy lately

[Mike Star]

The Euro is on the Govt released list but I asked my service manager what he thought and he advised me STRONGLY against it. I haven't touched it at all.

There was a recent comparison done with 3 Camrys, one using E10, one standard ULP and one using Premium (Vortex etc). They rotated the drivers over the course of the trip to ensure that each was driven over similar conditions by each of the drivers. Also none of the drivers knew which car was runninhg what fuel and the car running E10 actually used more fuel over the trip so was less efficient and that means any small upfront saving is really a false saving anyway! :thumbdwn:

[dwn_boi]

dont do it!! haven't you seen those flyer from BP showing the effects of the poorer fuel?
I'd definantly opt for a much higher RON, not only will your car run much smoother but you will notice your tank gets you that lil bit further in km!

Here is an article on the Ethanol Fuel:

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/articles/2008/12/13/1228585154588.html

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honda australia say it's fine to use. honda have tested it with e10 and have given it the ok.

HOWEVER it's a shit fuel and i would not recommend it. you are better off with a standard premium, your car will run better and have better fuel economy

[Crapdaz]

you wouldnt wanna use that for ur car since its still a fairly new car .. shell vortex is the way to go :) , i guess u still can but it wouldnt run as good as the premium fuel mate
shell vortex rofl..

anyways to the OP i watched a documentary on TV abc a few weeks ago comparing E10 to standard and premium and you actually spend more for less....

So in terms of comparison E10 spent less cash for alot less mileage and premium gets a greater amount of mileage and slightly better driving feel.
I can't remember the figures they had on the same cars using different fuels but the premium was the way to go, only thing i can think of is E10 releases less poisonous fumes into the atmosphere.

But i don't trust E10 to a pretty new car. :p

My 2c

[Type R Positive]

Hi, just a question,

Whether Euro can use Shell Unleaded E10 (ethanol-blended fuel)?
Yes, you can use it.
I wouldn't use it, I like BP ultimate 98. It is made over here in WA (other states too?), so it's fresh, and also it's the only 98 we get over here.

[tony1234]

I've heard from a few reliable sources that Shell fuel is not clean burning and prone to leaving deposits in the combustion chamber and the exhaust tailpipe which over a period of time could be a problem.Anyone like to comment?

[aaronng]

I've heard from a few reliable sources that Shell fuel is not clean burning and prone to leaving deposits in the combustion chamber and the exhaust tailpipe which over a period of time could be a problem.Anyone like to comment?

With our combustion engines, no fuel is clean burning. I use Caltex Vortex98 and I still get deposits in the exhaust tail pipe.

[tron07]

I use Vpower, no problem

[dwn_boi]

With our combustion engines, no fuel is clean burning. I use Caltex Vortex98 and I still get deposits in the exhaust tail pipe.

too much vtak :P

[aaronng]

too much vtak :P

Damn, you got me.......

[tony1234]

With our combustion engines, no fuel is clean burning. I use Caltex Vortex98 and I still get deposits in the exhaust tail pipe.
What i meant to say is that Shell is not as clean burning as Mobil 8000 and BP Ultimate(so i was told!!) and therefore prone to more deposits than the other fuels mentioned.:)

[aaronng]

What i meant to say is that Shell is not as clean burning as Mobil 8000 and BP Ultimate(so i was told!!) and therefore prone to more deposits than the other fuels mentioned.:)

Back during the days where I washed the car every 2 weeks, I couldn't really tell a difference (I alternated between Caltex, Shell and Mobil). I think it depends more on how much throttle you use. The heavier the throttle, the richer the A/F mixture will be which will result in excess carbon coming out the back.

BTW, just remembered that I missed your phonecall the other day. Been so busy with work and moving house when not at work. haha. How's things been?

[George euro]

i always use 98 and get about 420km average out of my tank i decided on my last tank to use E10 and try it out i felt no realy differance and still got about 420kms a tank so it tripped me out a little, but that was just an experiment ill stick to the 98 octain

[Type R Positive]

I use Vpower, no problem
They still make that? :confused:

[JDM-EGG]

shell vortex rofl..


My 2c

well i just said that cause he was using shell anyways but i personally use BP ultimate

[Type R Positive]

well i just said that cause he was using shell anyways but i personally use BP ultimate
but shell vortex? ROFL!!!!!! :D

[nickxau]

Just in case it's not clear as mud yet: Shell's premium fuel is called V-Power, Vortex is Caltex's premium fuel brand... but of course the poster shortened the reply and just said "shell vortex" right? ;)

[tron07]

They have plenty of vpower here, sometime last year, when they were short on vpower, I went back to vortex. I use vortex when I first got the car, then switch to vpower.

So its either vpower or vortex for me.... but I go for vpower because of coles 4 cents discount and flybuys points.

[aaronng]

I shop at woolies and use real rewards, so I use Vortex98. hhahaha

[hisoka]

i filled up with this shit today at bp, everything else was out of order, just put it in the civic. i feel so bad for filling up with it~

[Crapdaz]

They still make that? :confused:
yeh just not as much vpower RACING though....


well i just said that cause he was using shell anyways but i personally use BP ultimate


but shell vortex? ROFL!!!!!! :D

ROFLMAOLOLBBQHAX!!!

[tron07]

i filled up with this shit today at bp, everything else was out of order, just put it in the civic. i feel so bad for filling up with it~

If encounter with such problem, I will just do with $5 or more just to make to the nearest place with proper fuel or till tuesday :p

[aaronng]

If encounter with such problem, I will just do with $5 or more just to make to the nearest place with proper fuel or till tuesday :p

I wouuld have gone to United and filled up with their 95 E10 shit. At least that is better than BP's 91 R10.

[hisoka]

lol, engine overhaul time.

i might mix in 98 today into the tank.

[by-life]

Thx all of your information,

I will keep on v-power, E10 not for me. Also, nothing different between votrex and vpower. I often shopping in coles. Thus, for 4 cent off, I use vpower.

[Rob_A]

I would not touch the stuff. Back in my dealership days a few years back I saw problems with cars that had been running on E10. I even refuse to use normal unleaded, even with my previous cars I have found more milage from the higher quality fuels. While you may save at the pum, look at milage and how good its doing your engine.

I won't touch it. Vortex 95 for me. I seem to always get over 600kms from a tank on it so I stick to that. V-Power hasn't been as good since the refinery rebuild early last year. The formula has been changed.

Rob