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h22a accord
17-10-2004, 01:15 PM
guys, i usually run my car on optimax but the station was all out so i had to fill with caltex vortex which sucked as my car does not run as hard as it should on it.

Anyways, i went an put a bottle of nulon octane booster in it and all i can say is "HOLY SHIT" its like my car just gained a heap of torque and top end power.

Im not kidding either. This stuff really works in my car, looking around where i can buy a box full of the stuff at trade price.

I think my car goes well on it becuase is a motor and ECU straight out of japan, designed to run on jap fuels and not even our optimax has RON equivilent of the stuff in japan.

bizee_1
17-10-2004, 02:08 PM
you should be able to order a can of the stuff. better than buying 10 bottles... take a look at their site.

Bol
17-10-2004, 02:18 PM
How much does it cost?

euro77
17-10-2004, 06:05 PM
I heard octane booster is not good for the engine, especially if you use it too often. It does work cause I've used it in my civic, but haven't used it yet on my euro because of the reason above.

baboo
17-10-2004, 07:08 PM
yeah I heard the higher octane will melt the piston or something...but I might be wrong.

aaronng
17-10-2004, 07:22 PM
Higher octane fuel doesn't mean it burns easier/better. It means it is more difficult to self combust without the spark.
On whether octane booster is good/bad for your engine, I guess that would depend on the additives.

Terry
17-10-2004, 07:56 PM
those additive just like red bull.........can give you wings! :D

joyride
17-10-2004, 08:17 PM
anyone ever heard of pouring in a bit of diesel fuel in unleaded cars to clean out the carbon buildup and other sh*t in the engine?
i heard it years ago from an old mechanic and i still thinkits a load of rubbish, although ive never tried it.

Catcha
18-10-2004, 02:02 AM
Using octane booster once in a while is ok all the time and you will see your spark plugs foul, meaning they will neen to be replaced cause the additives in octane booster caused them to foul......there is a better solution if you want to achieve 100% octane levels if yor really want i can did it up for you

bizee_1
18-10-2004, 02:07 AM
When i got a quote in January, it was $120/4 litre can.

i don't use it much now. Got an ECU and had it tuned on 98ron instead.

i heard that if you use it too much, or don't use the correct mixing ratio's, you will foul your spark plugs faster.
well what he said :arrowu: damn!, 5mins too late :)

aaronng
18-10-2004, 08:59 AM
anyone ever heard of pouring in a bit of diesel fuel in unleaded cars to clean out the carbon buildup and other sh*t in the engine?
i heard it years ago from an old mechanic and i still thinkits a load of rubbish, although ive never tried it.

He was probably talking with regards to carburettor'd engines. Fuel injected engines atomise the fuel in the intake, so any liquid with a high viscosity (i.e. diesel) will clog it up and cost you time and $$ to repair.

Type R Positive
18-10-2004, 11:11 AM
He was probably talking with regards to carburettor'd engines. Fuel injected engines atomise the fuel in the intake, so any liquid with a high viscosity (i.e. diesel) will clog it up and cost you time and $$ to repair. Hey, Honda's new engine is direct injection!

Try NOS octane booster, the race formula. It is good shite, you can get it from K-Mart. Better than the Nulon crap you speak of. Anyways, just buy some toluine. That is all the octane booster is. If you are keen, get some unmixed nitro through a hobby shop or something. Your car will only go as fast as you can put the fuel into it.

bizee_1
19-10-2004, 04:40 AM
no mean to come across as maybe hostile, but what else makes NOS octane booster better than Nulon ? i do remember some magazines doing independant testing of octane boosters in terms of ron rating, & the other in terms of tuning.

Having you made that statement, i can safely say:

"Use Wynn's octane booster. Why ? Because if it's Wynn's, it works !" and that should be the only reason why you should use it. :rolleyes:

but seriously, being a topic of octane booster, i'd like to know why YOU think that NOS-OB has advantages over Nulon-OB, or why Nulon isn't so on the same level as NOS. especially on a car with a stock ECU.

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Ray

Type R Positive
19-10-2004, 11:45 AM
because I'm an industrial chemist and I know what is good and what is a rip off. If you want Toluine, just buy Toluine. :)

bizee_1
19-10-2004, 01:25 PM
Toluine ? (Toluene) i was asking a question regarding two other octane boosters. Of maybe which answer, you cannot. Hmm... :confused:

And just because your an industrial chemist, wasn't quite the answer we were looking for.

yfin
19-10-2004, 02:19 PM
because I'm an industrial chemist and I know what is good and what is a rip off. If you want Toluine, just buy Toluine. :)

hey - have you tried octane booster in your Euro? Interested to see whether it performed any different.
rgs

Usual Suspect
19-10-2004, 03:10 PM
The company my dad works for sells octane booster, which is garunteed, yes GARUNTEED to raise the octane rating by at least 4-6 points. I use it in my car and it always makes a difference. Works really well with Optimax.

I can get my hands on it a lot cheaper for anyone that wants it.

Wynn's OB is basically leaded fuel, where as the AIS (dad's company) is additives and stuff, not leaded fuel. This stuff really works and is only available to dealerships, but as i said i can get the stuff and sell it way cheaper than dealerships buy it.

EuroAccord13
19-10-2004, 03:12 PM
The company my dad works for sells octane booster, which is garunteed, yes GARUNTEED to raise the octane rating by at least 4-6 points. I use it in my car and it always makes a difference. Works really well with Optimax.

I can get my hands on it a lot cheaper for anyone that wants it.


And that brand would be? :)


I've heard the most Over-Rated Octane Booster is the one by NOS, too expensive and does nothing... mmmmm...

Usual Suspect
19-10-2004, 03:15 PM
i coudlnt finish all of it coz im at tafe and my lecturer was right behind me. i have finished it off now. Company is called AIS, u can buy their other products like car cleaning stuff off the shelf, its the shell stuff, but u can only buy a small range. I can get a list off all the stuff they sell (huge list) and i can take orders for it. PM me.

aaronng
19-10-2004, 04:54 PM
Hey, Honda's new engine is direct injection!

Try NOS octane booster, the race formula. It is good shite, you can get it from K-Mart. Better than the Nulon crap you speak of. Anyways, just buy some toluine. That is all the octane booster is. If you are keen, get some unmixed nitro through a hobby shop or something. Your car will only go as fast as you can put the fuel into it.

Actually, Hondas are direct ignition. The only direct injection I've heard of recently is the Alfa's 2.0 litre JTS engine and the new Golf's 2.0 litre FSI.

h22a accord
19-10-2004, 05:11 PM
usual suspect- can you get me some of the octane booster?

Octane booster probably wouldnt do much for a jap car that was sold in australia, they are specifically tuned to run on australian fuels.

its like the wrx sti ( jap spec 206kw) it sells here with a detuned motor ( 195kw ) because our fuel hasnt a high enough RON for it to run safely.

96 model JDM h22a is rated at 150kw, 96 AUDM h22a is rated at 143kw.

I definately notice a difference if i use octane boost and when i dont.

Usual Suspect
19-10-2004, 05:36 PM
yeh i can get it for you, have to buy in bulk though. At least 6 or more. You put one in per full tank of fuel.

When i get home ill get some info and stuff of meh dad. Ill send you an order form/broucher on their stuff so u can buy what u want.

qmjona
19-10-2004, 10:26 PM
I use both optimax and vortex (I have fuel cards for these two) and I have been trying to see if I can notice the difference, but I can't say that I can, do you really reckon you can notice the difference? I expected that I should be able to notice as optimax is 98 and vortex 95.
Just for interest I'm now keeping track of fuel consumption with each fuel to see if I can notice any difference.

Has anyone tried BP ultimate? I have tried most premium fuels in my bike where performance is more noticable and I think this fuel gives me the best performance.

Type R Positive
20-10-2004, 10:00 AM
Actually, Hondas are direct ignition. The only direct injection I've heard of recently is the Alfa's 2.0 litre JTS engine and the new Golf's 2.0 litre FSI.Actually:
Engine: Newly developed direct in-cylinder injection 2.0L DOHC i-VTEC I gasoline engine
•The newly developed 2-liter DOHC i-VTEC I engine incorporates advanced Honda technologies and intelligent control systems, for class-leading fuel economy as well as clean emissions and high output --- two areas which are problematic for direct injection engines.•The newly developed 2-liter DOHC i-VTEC I integrates the i-VTEC system, which combines VTEC (Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control) and VTC (Variable Timing Control), with a newly developed center injection system, for an air-fuel ratio*1 of 65:1, an unprecedented level of ultra-lean combustion. Stable combustion is achieved with considerably less fuel than with conventional direct injection engines, for which an air-fuel ratio of 40:1 was the limit. The new engine makes for sporty driving and a high fuel efficiency of 15.0 km/L*2.•Combustion control through the use of high-precision EGR valves and a newly developed high-performance catalyst enable the i-VTEC I, while a lean-burn direct engine, to qualify as an Ultra Low Emissions Vehicle.*1EGR included*2Fuel economy in 10-15 mode (Japanese Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport calculations)

Type R Positive
20-10-2004, 11:39 AM
hey - have you tried octane booster in your Euro? Interested to see whether it performed any different.
rgsNah, I don't bother. I will keep some in the boot for the long trip down to Perth from where I am, but I have been told there is enough servo's with premium on the way.

It is bound to make heaps of difference here where I am, the fuel is crap. It makes a world of difference on my pulsar even when using premium. I just use it to clean the injectors with heaps of full throttle.

aaronng
20-10-2004, 01:35 PM
Actually:
Engine: Newly developed direct in-cylinder injection 2.0L DOHC i-VTEC I gasoline engine
•The newly developed 2-liter DOHC i-VTEC I engine incorporates advanced Honda technologies and intelligent control systems, for class-leading fuel economy as well as clean emissions and high output --- two areas which are problematic for direct injection engines.•The newly developed 2-liter DOHC i-VTEC I integrates the i-VTEC system, which combines VTEC (Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control) and VTC (Variable Timing Control), with a newly developed center injection system, for an air-fuel ratio*1 of 65:1, an unprecedented level of ultra-lean combustion. Stable combustion is achieved with considerably less fuel than with conventional direct injection engines, for which an air-fuel ratio of 40:1 was the limit. The new engine makes for sporty driving and a high fuel efficiency of 15.0 km/L*2.•Combustion control through the use of high-precision EGR valves and a newly developed high-performance catalyst enable the i-VTEC I, while a lean-burn direct engine, to qualify as an Ultra Low Emissions Vehicle.*1EGR included*2Fuel economy in 10-15 mode (Japanese Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport calculations)

Cool! I didn't know about this! Just did a search and found that it is used in the Stream Absolute. Not sure about the power specs though.

Type R Positive
20-10-2004, 02:31 PM
that's 'em. Go to the hdtv section of honda global and you can watch a 10min vid of it.