exhaust for S2000(very good info before buying a exhaust)

[lonelybutterfly]

Guys i found this on youtube: very good information before buying an exhurst for S2000!! please watch and enjoy:
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=moEKOyw43_A

i'm thinking to get the 5zigen one coz i can get it real cheap but only a catback, without the headers.

1. does it increase any performance/acceleration if i run it with my stock headers and stock intake?
2. anyone used it before? any feedback?
3. which one has best sound?
4. which one is your favorite?

Thanks,:thumbsup:

[Ferrari]

I had amuse dual, which is meant to be the best dual on the market, and I noticed nothing. Just the sound, plus it removed 18 kilos or more of weight from stock, but you cant feel that, in a daily driver. Get it for sound. I just bought an HKS as that is the best sounding exhaust on the s2000 I have heard to date.

[S2kane]

Hey Ferrari,

What type of HKS is it?

[lonelybutterfly]

I noticed nothing. Just the sound, plus it removed 18 kilos or more of weight from stock, but you cant feel that, in a daily driver. Get it for sound.

WOW... but did you use stock headers?

[ludecrs]

Don't buy an Invidia...

[Ferrari]

stock everything, the amuse exhaust was cat back, in America they claim max 6hp gain. That is not noticeable. Maybe if you bunched a few mods together like header, high flow cat, and single exhaust with a good tune, you will tell a gain. But then your talking a fair bit of cash, for not too much gain.

[Ferrari]

The HKS I got, is the hi power dual.

[vyets]

I think the best dual to date will be the t1r EM dual which seems to have mad gains for a dual! A dual with gains like a single exhaust.

[<4n'D>]

I had amuse dual, which is meant to be the best dual on the market, and I noticed nothing. Just the sound, plus it removed 18 kilos or more of weight from stock, but you cant feel that, in a daily driver. Get it for sound. I just bought an HKS as that is the best sounding exhaust on the s2000 I have heard to date.

amuse is bloody light - i can hold the entire thing with one arm.

[.::F[L]Y::.]

best gain + best sound= single exhaust

anything titanium from Amuse or ARC is the shit!~ i had the ARC single ti, bloody loved it. Also had the Amuse dual full Ti i purchased from Mad. Was a sexy exhaust but the sound from a single is supreme....

[ludecrs]

I lost a silencer yesterday. :( My 2nd so far.

Glad I have one spare.

[jonni3e]

I had a t1r 63mm sparrow on my s2000. Very nice sounding exhaust, no drone and not too loud for a daily driver.

[lonelybutterfly]

so the conclusion is that catback's are pretty much only for sound and abit of weight reduction????

[lonelybutterfly]

thanks for all the advice and feedback guys!!!
but i'm only considering the 5zigen since a mate is in the australia 5zigen team and he can get me a brand new one for stock price which is tempting me.
so i think i'll still go ahead with it even only for looks and sound!!!
i'll try to post pics when i get it!!
cheers guys.

[vyets]

Duals are for sound and looks!
Singles are for power!

60mm is for quietness
70mm is for power!

[ludecrs]

what about dual 70's? :p

[NVD52K]

i have a toda exhaust , headers, test pipe, dual cat back. and its very loud, drony and even more better at WOT. although i do make some power for a dual exhaust even though i havent experienced having a single one

[vyets]

LOL Dual 70 is abit of both but I would say more looks unless its the t1r EM :D that thing is just nuts for a dual.

[eriktufa]

I like mine haha

I wouldn't mind 70mm dual though... best of both world

[vyets]

I'd rather a Dual Barrel exhaust then dual cannon, dual cannons look tacky. But then again I'm one of the few aus s2k owners that love single exhaust.

Your exhaust is unbeatable eric.
Single, 70MM, Quiet, Power. Only downside is it's pretty heavy for a single SS. Imagine the Ti OMG!!

[.::F[L]Y::.]

also forgot to add single looks alot tougher!

[ludecrs]

It also unbalances the look of the car :p

[JMSBND]

It also unbalances the look of the car :p

So you should move you driver seat to the centre too so you don't unbalance the car?!?!?!?:p

I am with a single exhaust. I love the tought look of single.

HKS Headers, Spoon single cat back. I like the look and it sounds awesome. I am sure there is a tiny power gain but heaps lighter and mine seems to have a nice thumpy idle almost like a rex it's pretty sweet.

Single on MCB FTW.....same as Godhand Initial D stylez

link here-------> http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=p3EiLzymN1c

[.::F[L]Y::.]

you can always buy the single exhaust cap from the US to cover up the hole on the other side.

[vyets]

It's like buying a single bucket seat.. Function over form i'd say, no point forking out double the price for a passenger seat so it "looks" better. Duals tend to be more expensive as well.
But singles look alot better with the exhaust cap anyway.
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/4493/dsc0121235324on4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Anyway no more single vs dual arguments lol..

Btw, if anyone is interested I was actually out of a job for awhile, and I picked up a really cheap stock exhaust so I decided to chop off the mufflers to see how it sounds.
Surprisingly its pretty quiet.. best thing of all no drone! but pretty loud at certain rpm's, nothing unbearable but.
But it does throb and sounds really aggressive and is real loud at WOT.
As for power. I doubt it if anything it probably lost power. But the sound is just nuts :).

[ludecrs]

A J's Racing sticker on a Spoon diffuser, with multiple ASM & mugne parts?

[vyets]

Top Secret Rear Diff. :)

[ludecrs]

I'm slipping in my old age :p

[JMSBND]

It's like buying a single bucket seat.. Function over form i'd say, no point forking out double the price for a passenger seat so it "looks" better. Duals tend to be more expensive as well.
But singles look alot better with the exhaust cap anyway.
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/4493/dsc0121235324on4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Anyway no more single vs dual arguments lol..

Btw, if anyone is interested I was actually out of a job for awhile, and I picked up a really cheap stock exhaust so I decided to chop off the mufflers to see how it sounds.
Surprisingly its pretty quiet.. best thing of all no drone! but pretty loud at certain rpm's, nothing unbearable but.
But it does throb and sounds really aggressive and is real loud at WOT.
As for power. I doubt it if anything it probably lost power. But the sound is just nuts :).


Oh yeah single rear cutout there I see it. I was too busy drooling over the rest of the car LOL!!!!

I found a CF rear lip that goes on the stock AP1 rear bar from the US with single cut out so probably get it once our dollar is back off ass paper ville in the USA............

[dc5ive]

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/4493/dsc0121235324on4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


offtopic: what boot lip is that ? and where can i get one from??

[JMSBND]

+1 on that lip spoiler, where can I get one?

[ludecrs]

s2ki.com vendors sell them.

Think its called a "duckbill" spoiler?

[JMSBND]

s2ki.com vendors sell them.

Think its called a "duckbill" spoiler?

Thankyou sir!

[vyets]

It's a duckbill spoiler from ASM.
there are afew vendors on s2ki that sell replicas but if you want the real deal its made by ASM. 2x2 Dry Carbon Weave :)

[<4n'D>]

has anyone had experience with a buddy club spec 4 (or spec iv... whatever?)

i heard it was really quiet for a single, but i was wondering exactly how quiet. buddy club arent exactly renown for their subtlety so i was hoping that this one would be... different.

[Ferrari]

I think the buddyclub exhaust range is questionable in quality, alot of people who run them on S2000 experience cracking at welds etc. Ask Taaxed. Or check out S2ki. I reckon best exhaust is fujitsubo for sublety and great vtec roar. I have the hks hi power, which I think is better sounding, but more drony at certain rpms, and not as quiet.

[JAP-S2K]

Yeah stand well clear of most Ti systems. Not only are they worth a bomb. But titanium is quite prone to cracking. It's very difficult to weld. And as cool as the discolouration is, it generally means the incorrrect temp range of weld. Thus meaning cracking. I learnt the hard way. However it's not rocket science. Want power, big pipe, minimal bends and as free flowing mufflers. Custom for me.

[DC5TYPER]

Ill be getting custom built cat back from Bay rd exhausts.

3 inch - stainless steel - highest flow cat and muffler -> built for pure top end power!

NOISE IS NOT A ISSUE. Track only exhaust.

:thumbsup:

Ill keep you guys posted!

[<4n'D>]

I think the buddyclub exhaust range is questionable in quality, alot of people who run them on S2000 experience cracking at welds etc. Ask Taaxed. Or check out S2ki. I reckon best exhaust is fujitsubo for sublety and great vtec roar. I have the hks hi power, which I think is better sounding, but more drony at certain rpms, and not as quiet.

found some stuff on spec 3, but not much on spec 4...

but gee... makes you think twice.

[F20C]

ludecrs do you know anywhere in melbourne that sell or import invidia over here? i know you said dont get it as its loud etc.. but i want to deafen everyone :)

[Ferrari]

buy luders off him, maybe he can source a mugen exhaust from arabia and pray it comes!

[vyets]

No-one can get it in australia besides importing it urself.
invidia will deafen yourself before you deafen outsiders rofl.

[F20C]

haha woo, i dont mind i guess lol.. luder sell me yours lol.. :P

[papa_]

ok i narrowed my choice down to two choices

dual spoon exhaust with berk test pipe and j's racing headers (will be delivered soon)

or

t1-r em dual with berk test pipe and j'racing headers (will be delivered soon)

which set up do you think? my car is daily driven aswell

[sho]

if its spoon n1 then its going to be loud so maybe that is something to put in factor if your going to use your car as a daily.

[vyets]

t1r em ftw!!! Good gains
spoon sounds like poo

[papa_]

if i do get the t1r em is there a way of bending the end to make it straight?

[vyets]

You can get a new tip weilded on I guess if you dont like the dolphin tips
where u getting it from papa, last time i got a quote from the usa for an exhaust was 500USD shipping :(

[papa_]

evasive motorsport is the only one so far ive checked out

but apparently evasive motorsport are the only ones that are selling the t1r-em

[papa_]

does anyone like the spoon?

[ChromZ]

got links for the T1R EM ?

[vyets]

Oh yea, its caus that exaust was made specifically for evasive motorsports.
I got my quote from them as well, it was like $470 something there nearly $500 usd mark

How much did they quote you to ship the T1R?

Regards

[papa_]

yeh i got quoted around the $500 usd mark....there has got to be a cheaper way

[sho]

what about berk exhaust? UHV Dual 57mm Titanium Exhaust
they wanted 220usd for postage to sydney via BAX global when i was looking around for my exhaust

[sho]

does anyone like the spoon?

i had one on my integra for about 2 years .. loved it to bits however it was too loud lol

[papa_]

vyets want to buy one together to get a better price?

[vyets]

I've tried, even though 2 exhaust it still same price caus I got a mate intrested. Maybe if its 3 it will be cheaper try ask em for 3 caus evasive stock the Greddy 70mm Single and me and my friend are intrested in that :)

From the dynos the t1r EM is like the best gaining dual exhaust!

[papa_]

edit: wrong thred

[dc5ive]

i got quoted 325 USD from evasive, to send an invidia exhaust and headers

[dc5ive]

and that was two weeks ago before i found my exhast here =]

[papa_]

i got quoted 325 USD from evasive, to send an invidia exhaust and headers

man im gunna try them again

[F20C]

i was looking on the evasive website.. and i've come to find the price of invidia N1 for 550 usd :| and the test pipe for about 115 USD think they would drop any further or are they set prices?

[vyets]

550 usd is pretty cheap.
Try ebay invidia is more of a ebay brand anyway and ebay sellings might be able to ship it out abit cheaper.

[F20C]

do you think they would let me ship it over myself? as i get free/real cheap shipping with large items as a friend of mine owns an import/export company lol..

[papa_]

do you think they would let me ship it over myself? as i get free/real cheap shipping with large items as a friend of mine owns an import/export company lol..

hook us up! lol

[vyets]

do you think they would let me ship it over myself? as i get free/real cheap shipping with large items as a friend of mine owns an import/export company lol..

Why not, just buy it and have them send it too your mate.

[F20C]

orrite lol ill do that, well this is what we'll do when i have the cash for it.. we'll all buy something and i'll get it shipped through lol.

[ludecrs]

i got quoted 325 USD from evasive, to send an invidia exhaust and headers

bargain.

I paid $550 just in postage costs.

[eriktufa]

Shipping will cost that much and plus you have to pay custom duty, paperwork etc if it's shipped by Airmail :)

That's another 700-1000 depending on the value of the item etc etc, although your friend has import & export company you still have to pay the airline, cargo fee etc..

[F20C]

well thats a kick in the arse.

[F20C]

just out of curiosity, if i were to be looking at a quiter alternative.. by putting an invidia test pipe with my stock exhaust/cat.. are they removeable to put onto an invidia N1 or any other exhaust? or are they welded on?

[ludecrs]

Test pipe makes it louder...... and smellier LOL.

They are bolt on, just swap out the cat converter.

[F20C]

haha, yeah im thinking of chucking one in my stock exhaust see what it sounds like lol.

[vyets]

not much louder if that's what your wondering lol.

[F20C]

i see lol.. sounds pretty loud on youtube vids

[dc5ive]

i cant wait to put my exhaust on :D
recently bought full HKS exhaust system thanks Vyets

[F20C]

hey dc wanna let me know how it sounds when you get it put on?

[dc5ive]

no worries

[vyets]

No problem man.

btw.. test pipe on stock exhaust
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZBFaS1-704&feature=related
not much louder :)

HKS is pretty quiet as well heard it sounds good. I can't wait to see how it sounds man compared to my loud ass thing haha

[dc5ive]

yours is loud man lol
the test pipe makes it sound more rasp

[F20C]

what about removing the resinater? that make much of a difference in noise? all ive noticed is more of that growl i love.. but it doesnt sound overlly loud

[MMike]

what about removing the resinater? that make much of a difference in noise? all ive noticed is more of that growl i love.. but it doesnt sound overlly loud

Amuse R1 Titan Extra all the way :P

http://www.nengun.com/amuse/r1-titan-extra

:cool:

[vyets]

The r1 dual is quiet :P and hardly any power

No resonator...
not much louder but sounds like a tin can.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiQWitHJj-U

I'll make a rec of mine one day and post it up :) if i can be fkt lol

[F20C]

lol do it vyets >:| :P yeah i've heard the r1's but the thing thats won me over is the invidia N1 :P

[ludecrs]

Find me a dual 70 Amuse / J's at a good price, and I'll sell you the Invidia.
LOL

[F20C]

haha orrite what are they selling for? and your in the gold coast huh.. i might have someone down there who can help you out ;) i'll call around.

[vyets]

the J's is selling for a good 2.4k new and the amuse is well over 3k new :).
Why don't you just source out the Invidia instead of finding another exhaust to get it from brad... it's not like the Invidia is some super rare hard to find exhaust?

[ludecrs]

lol, this is true. i saw on s2ki the other day, someone selling a v3 like mine for only $310US - but wouldn't post it out.

[F20C]

lol yeah but i cant get someone to hook me up with invidia parts as its direct from the us...