Adjustable coilovers kits vs just springs/shocks

[E_Honda]

I'm just learning about suspension, but is getting complete coilover kits (suspension & shocks) with adjustable height a better option than just getting springs and shocks? are there pros and cons?

I'm after lowering the car just enough so the top of the 19" wheels are flush with the body of the car. I still want to keep the ride comfort as much as possible and don't wanna have issues with scraping on every speed hump, driveway etc...

i've been quoted around $1900-$2000 for the complete coil over kit, from brands like pedders, Ksport, and i think B&G. Let me know what you guys recommend.

[Type R Positive]

Trom what you are after, I'd go a set of coilovers.
Coilovers such as Tanabe sustec S-OC's are just a bit firmer than stock.
They give a very nice ride. Best of all, they are $US900 from the states.

Those K-sport ones seem the same as the D2 coilovers. Don't know if they are worth it or not.

Buddyclub N+ coilovers get a good wrap, as do Tein SS and basic's.

[Crapdaz]

should use search function.

coilover is the better option cause you can adjust to your liking.
go for tein SS as they are almost like stock with handling gain.

But if your not planning on changing height and damper too often just go for bilstein/eibach combo which are worht every penny

[E_Honda]

Thanks for the replies.
So it sounds like coil overs is the way to go. I did search the forums but everyone seems to only mention Tein's, bilstein and eibach. I know they must be good if everyone gives them credit but I wanted to know if anyone can tell me about coil overs with pedders, Ksport, or B&G. If they have had experience with them and can provide an average price for any of them.

Also, i'm not taking my car on the track its just for street use.

[Type R Positive]

you might have WAY better luck searching on the yank forums such as:
http://tsx.acurazine.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=124
http://www.tsxclub.com/forums/index.php

[Crapdaz]

Your better off getting it from dealers here!!

Aussie dollar sucks so you'll be paying around the same price or even more to be shipped here!!!
Also most places that do ship them from overseas will incur tax costs to yourself.

George euro has ksport on the rears and they are extremely soft.....

[Type R Positive]

Your better off getting it from dealers here!!

Aussie dollar sucks so you'll be paying around the same price or even more to be shipped here!!!
research..... :thumbsup:

[Crapdaz]

Search is your fwend!!!

[Crapdaz]

In before close of thread!!!!

[E_Honda]

you might have WAY better luck searching on the yank forums such as:
http://tsx.acurazine.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=124
http://www.tsxclub.com/forums/index.php

Well if everyone here in Oz seems to be going for those brands i guess i'll join them, but if anyone can still provide their opinion on any other brands like the ones i mentioned i'd appreciate it as well.

[E_Honda]

Your better off getting it from dealers here!!

Aussie dollar sucks so you'll be paying around the same price or even more to be shipped here!!!
Also most places that do ship them from overseas will incur tax costs to yourself.

George euro has ksport on the rears and they are extremely soft.....

Yeah thats why i'd prefer to get it from dealer here.

So the softer they are the more comfortable the ride?

[Crapdaz]

Yeah thats why i'd prefer to get it from dealer here.

So the softer they are the more comfortable the ride?

Yes but depends on what type you get... e.g tein > ksport > BC N+ > whatever... each type is different.

from my Tein MFP i found that you need them a bit stiffer otherwise from it being too soft you bounce alot... also playing a part is the Psi in your tyres.

Most would be if you run it soft it absorbs the impact on bumps on the road.

[tony1234]

Bilstein shocks with Eibach springs FTW.:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[JasonGilholme]

is there such thing as ride comfort on 19's?? lol

I'm rocking ksports. don't have any complaints.

whatever you end up going with i'd suggest coilovers of some description as you'll be able to find tune the height to suit yourneeds.

19s are huooooooge.

[Crapdaz]

19s are huge is you compare to your delsol rofl

[E_Honda]

is there such thing as ride comfort on 19's?? lol

I'm rocking ksports. don't have any complaints.

whatever you end up going with i'd suggest coilovers of some description as you'll be able to find tune the height to suit yourneeds.

19s are huooooooge.

I've seen a few people have ksports and are happy with them, so i might either go for them or BC racing since they are both around the same price.

19's huge? lol I get told all the time my existing 19's look small on my car, probably because the cars sitting high with the stock suspension.

[E_Honda]

Bilstein shocks with Eibach springs FTW.:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

lol are you sponsored by Bilstein & Eibach? you talk them up big time all over the forum

[Crapdaz]

I've seen a few people have ksports and are happy with them, so i might either go for them or BC racing since they are both around the same price.

19's huge? lol I get told all the time my existing 19's look small on my car, probably because the cars sitting high with the stock suspension.


lol are you sponsored by Bilstein & Eibach? you talk them up big time all over the forum

for a spring + shock combo they are definitely worth it though....

but most likely you want adjustable features so you can play around with it.
19 inch small most likely the lip on the rim makes it look small.

[E_Honda]

for a spring + shock combo they are definitely worth it though....

but most likely you want adjustable features so you can play around with it.
19 inch small most likely the lip on the rim makes it look small.

Yep, i'd like to play with the ride height so coil overs are just the thing for me.

Theres not much of a lip on my current wheels, advanti's the old school star shape, complete chrome that a shit load of people seem to have. They came with the car and I haven't liked them from the start. there is going to be more of a dish on the new Zinik Z24's i'm looking at so they should show some size.

Btw i'm going to sell the Advanti's + tyres in about 3-4 weeks for about 1K if anyone is interested ;)

[Crapdaz]

Yep, i'd like to play with the ride height so coil overs are just the thing for me.

Theres not much of a lip on my current wheels, advanti's the old school star shape, complete chrome that a shit load of people seem to have. They came with the car and I haven't liked them from the start. there is going to be more of a dish on the new Zinik Z24's i'm looking at so they should show some size.

Btw i'm going to sell the Advanti's + tyres in about 3-4 weeks for about 1K if anyone is interested ;)
more lip = smaller wheel look
less or outter lip = bigger wheel.

colour plays a part also in the size look.

[E_Honda]

more lip = smaller wheel look
less or outter lip = bigger wheel.

colour plays a part also in the size look.

ok, so my new wheels are going to have a bigger lip but will be chrome lip with black inserts on the spokes. So a mix of black and chrome. The black going up through the spokes should add size to the wheels appearance.

Referring to my other thread:
http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/t.../M2W-Chop7.jpg
http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/t...EBLKINSERT.jpg

[tony1234]

lol are you sponsored by Bilstein & Eibach? you talk them up big time all over the forum
Get them and you wont look back.They really suit the car.Only downside is you cannot adjust height,so if you want to do this then forget them.

[johnprocter]

how much would springs + shocks cost?

[tony1234]

how much would springs + shocks cost?
Mine cost $2100 drive in drive out(rear camber kit,alignment etc.)

[johnprocter]

hmm so theres not much diff in price then from coilovers.. i got quoted like $1000 for tein basic or something

[Type R Positive]

hmm so theres not much diff in price then from coilovers.. i got quoted like $1000 for tein basic or something
I would personally rather the Bilstein / Eibach combo.

Depends on if you want them adjustable or not. If the Eiback Pro kit isn't low enough, there is always the Sportline kit. ;)

[tony1234]

hmm so theres not much diff in price then from coilovers.. i got quoted like $1000 for tein basic or something
Expect to pay more than that now with our shit exchange rate.:(

[Vtecyo]

im after sussy 4 my dc2 atm also :). I got KYB shocks on atm and ide be looking to get the skunk2 lowering springs if i get springs...however i cant forget about coilovers and i change my mind between springs and coils everyday xD

Yes coilovers are good as they adjustable, as i am after the pefect high above my 17s, HOWEVER im parrinoid about getting coils that are to hard ( as i do alot of driving).

And yes prices on everthing have gone up...

*crying* i still duno what 2 do :P

[tony1234]

im after sussy 4 my dc2 atm also :). I got KYB shocks on atm and ide be looking to get the skunk2 lowering springs if i get springs...however i cant forget about coilovers and i change my mind between springs and coils everyday xD

Yes coilovers are good as they adjustable, as i am after the pefect high above my 17s, HOWEVER im parrinoid about getting coils that are to hard ( as i do alot of driving).

And yes prices on everthing have gone up...

*crying* i still duno what 2 do :P
KYBs are good,depend on your budget match up with some good springs.

[crunkman99]

any1 know what coil overs can be lowerd the most at the rear? i got quoted 1650 for bc coil overs from whole sale suspesnion but i dont want to order from them, they treated me like ass.

peddars told me 2500 for complete new rear arms to lower it 3 inches, ridiculous. what is cheaper?

[.QD]

any1 know what coil overs can be lowerd the most at the rear? i got quoted 1650 for bc coil overs from whole sale suspesnion but i dont want to order from them, they treated me like ass.

peddars told me 2500 for complete new rear arms to lower it 3 inches, ridiculous. what is cheaper?

Mate get Buddyclub N+ they go low! I think they're going for $2199.

[Type R Positive]

Mate get Buddyclub N+ they go low! I think they're going for $2199.$1100 in the states. ;)

[tony1234]

$1100 in the states. ;)
Yeah.plus freight,our shit exchange rate and price is close to $2000 approx.

[.QD]

$1100 in the states. ;)

Yeah, what Tony said. $1100, convert that to AUD instead of USD + shipping + tax.

It adds up in the end.

[Type R Positive]

Yeah.plus freight,our shit exchange rate and price is close to $2000 approx.Save $200! YAY! ;)

[crunkman99]

how low can Tein Super Street CL9 be lowered?

can i put lowering springs on them as well to get the back of the car even lower?

[Crapdaz]

how low can Tein Super Street CL9 be lowered?

can i put lowering springs on them as well to get the back of the car even lower?

Tein SS - F: -81mm lower R: -61mm
Please see http://www.tein.com/price/acura.html for details.

Max adjustable

Recommended not to change anything on a coilover set.

[.QD]

Just get buddyclub n+....

[Crapdaz]

^agreed as .QD said, N+ can go heaps lower than Tein...

I am unsure on damper setting(N+) though on stiffest cause i've only sat in .QD car @ F10, R7 or so and it was FKN comfortable.....

He can tell you how bad my tein monoflex is even on hardest/softest.... :p

[.QD]

Yeah, maybe if someone buys my N+, I might get someone's AirRunner.

[crunkman99]

Yeah, maybe if someone buys my N+, I might get someone's AirRunner.

how much you selling ur ns for? i might end up doing what george did and get a pair of k sports coil overs, he rekons his are ar the bottom and sit 5 inches lower.

[power_of_dreams]

Yeah, maybe if someone buys my N+, I might get someone's AirRunner.

name a price?

[crunkman99]

name a price?

what condition they in? got pics of them? for all 4 or for a pair.

well i can get them brand new for 1999.

[E_Honda]

I got quoted $1926.99 total for K-sport coil over kit complete + camber adjustment. Do you guys think that sounds reasonable? A lot of you guys are mentioning Buddyclub N+ coil overs as well. Would you say better off going Buddyclub N+ or stick with the K-Sport?

[crunkman99]

where did u get the ksports from? do you know what one drops lower?

[E_Honda]

where did u get the ksports from? do you know what one drops lower?

I got the quote from Autobarn, i havent actually bought any yet. I have no idea which one drops lower sorry.

[Crapdaz]

rofl Ksport doesnt have height differences.... from stock or adjustability....on there website, only got damper which is 12/7

Rofl nor does buddyclub... but BC are 12/6

[crunkman99]

rofl Ksport doesnt have height differences.... from stock or adjustability....on there website, only got damper which is 12/7

Rofl nor does buddyclub... but BC are 12/6

george euro has k sports and his car seems pretty dam low to me. does 2099 sound good for a set of buddy club n+?

[E_Honda]

rofl Ksport doesnt have height differences.... from stock or adjustability....on there website, only got damper which is 12/7

Rofl nor does buddyclub... but BC are 12/6

watch out, noob asking questions :eek:......what are those damper figures? what do they mean? which one is better?

[Crapdaz]

george euro has k sports and his car seems pretty dam low to me. does 2099 sound good for a set of buddy club n+?

Sounds about right since AUD sucks....

[crunkman99]

e honda, btw imo autobarhn suck balls, lucky my mate owns 619 customs in adeliade, hahah i get looked after. just rang him see how much he can get me some coilovers for.

[Crapdaz]

the numbers are spring rates in kgf/mm of adjustment, (Front/Rear)

there is another no. on the site i didnt post up which is lbs/inch.

i checked that compared to my MFP and found that the spring rate has a larger range but the strength is alot weaker i think hence why N+, Ksport are so soft and comfy.

someone correct me if i am wrong on the interpretation.

[E_Honda]

the numbers are spring rates in kgf/mm of adjustment, (Front/Rear)

there is another no. on the site i didnt post up which is lbs/inch.

i checked that compared to my MFP and found that the spring rate has a larger range but the strength is alot weaker i think hence why N+, Ksport are so soft and comfy.

someone correct me if i am wrong on the interpretation.

"the strength is alot weaker i think hence why N+, Ksport are so soft and comfy", so does that mean its going to bounce around a bit or is the handling still gonna be decent once lowered?

[E_Honda]

e honda, btw imo autobarhn suck balls, lucky my mate owns 619 customs in adeliade, hahah i get looked after. just rang him see how much he can get me some coilovers for.

Lol hater, let me know what your mate quotes you for BC N+

[crunkman99]

Lol hater, let me know what your mate quotes you for BC N+

yea ill see what model he can get me. he doesnt make a profit wen i buy things from him. lol

[Vtecyo]

hey guys!

I found ur past few pages very interesting.
Im heavly concidering getting the N+

because.. Im after nice tight handeling and low body roll
They are a very repretable brand.
Heaps of ppl rave about them
Decent price

HOWEVER im VERY VERY scared the ride will be too rough and hard. (as i have kings springs atm..)

My mate has d2s with a spring rate of 4 front and 7 back, and i think it is too stiff....

Im pretty sure N+ are 10front and 7 back.

I have taken some comfort in what some ppl have said.



i've only sat in .QD car @ F10, R7 or so and it was FKN comfortable.....


and a dude from another thread said that on 5 clicks from softest it was just harder then stock and on 4 clicks it was comfortable.

Im still worried that even the softest setting will be to hard.. i.e feeling every bump in the road. Smashing over uneven roads and pot hole fillers and crashing into holes...

.QD how soft have you had them ? are they a comfortable coilover? Whats the range like on the 15 points on adjustment ?

Sorry if im confused and rambeling but im confused and my brain in rambeling xD

any help is appreciated :P

[Type R Positive]

Just keep the clicks low.

The D2's come with F13 / R7, they got a good ride when the clicks are low. Firm but compliant.

[Vtecyo]

true...

But i just realised somthing ( i half knew )
im gonna need new rear control arms. ITR ones.
The N+ have a ball joint to fot the type R and my VTI-R has differnt one ( cant think of words to describe..)

the ITR control atms ate 250 new and i cant see any 2nd hand 4 sale...

I duno if i can spend more money ..killer..

[damienm]

im thinking about selling my shock n spring combo, koni yellows/eibach springs, getting sick of going sideways everywhere

[tony1234]

im thinking about selling my shock n spring combo, koni yellows/eibach springs, getting sick of going sideways everywhere
Sideways??:confused:.What do you mean.That's a good combo you've got.

[damienm]

haha i meant sideways on driveways n speedhumps

[.QD]

haha i meant sideways on driveways n speedhumps

did u lower ur car even more from when i saw ur car @ the blue mountains cruise? u should be right on that height shouldnt u? or did u add a kit on ur car too?

i manage fine with my car get the odd drive slow and sideways, but other than that all good.

[tony1234]

haha i meant sideways on driveways n speedhumps
Haha,lol at sideways.I have same drop as you(i have Bilstein+Eibach) and don't have any problems apart from really steep driveways.Speedhumps no problem as long as you go slow.

[damienm]

did u lower ur car even more from when i saw ur car @ the blue mountains cruise? u should be right on that height shouldnt u? or did u add a kit on ur car too?

i manage fine with my car get the odd drive slow and sideways, but other than that all good.

nah its still the same but i scrape everywhere, like parramatta westfields, liverpool westfields, i cant even get outta my driveway without scraping. plus i wouldnt mind making a bit of cash as ive got an ingalls camber kit as well and im saving up for a b18c7 for my eg civic.

[damienm]

Haha,lol at sideways.I have same drop as you(i have Bilstein+Eibach) and don't have any problems apart from really steep driveways.Speedhumps no problem as long as you go slow.

i have my rear shocks set on the lowest setting, are the bilsteins adjustable as well?

[tony1234]

i have my rear shocks set on the lowest setting, are the bilsteins adjustable as well?
No they're not.I have approx.35mm drop.

[.QD]

nah its still the same but i scrape everywhere, like parramatta westfields, liverpool westfields, i cant even get outta my driveway without scraping. plus i wouldnt mind making a bit of cash as ive got an ingalls camber kit as well and im saving up for a b18c7 for my eg civic.

parra westfield for me is win! it's rhodes! even since ive lowered my car i dont go at the top carpark, coz they have those fail metal speedhump...

i guess its a good idea though, restore the euro to lux status and just work on the civic...


as for the other peoples concerns with ride comfort and quality... like seriously stay stock if u worry about ride comfort and feeling every bump and potholes. u expect that sh1t when u mod ur sus, im sure im stating the obvious already. price u pay if u want to dump ur car like "4 inches" at the rear or more.

is there such a thing as ride comfort on 19s? yeah there is its called "harden the f*ck up" :p haha.

from my experience when i was spamming here last year with my n00b questions about sus, i mentioned buddyclub n+ everyone was telling me its so harsh and so on. then i got a demo from a mates mate that has a euro and i was happy with it. i had my eyes on the tein monoflex and lucky i didnt get it and got the N+.

i have 1 finger gap at the front (10clicks) and tight 1 finger gap @ the rear (7clicks) and it's still comfy for ME. i need to adjust the rear to maybe 8 or 10.

it's good to get feedback from other people about their gear, but at the end of the day everyone is different. what i find sporty comfy might be a rough ride to others.

see at times i find my ride rough, but when u jump in Crapdaz's car on tein monoflex and i will think mine is still comfy and luxurious, ask Darren :D

[Crapdaz]

hey guys!

I found ur past few pages very interesting.
Im heavly concidering getting the N+

because.. Im after nice tight handeling and low body roll
They are a very repretable brand.
Heaps of ppl rave about them
Decent price

HOWEVER im VERY VERY scared the ride will be too rough and hard. (as i have kings springs atm..)

My mate has d2s with a spring rate of 4 front and 7 back, and i think it is too stiff....

Im pretty sure N+ are 10front and 7 back.

I have taken some comfort in what some ppl have said.



and a dude from another thread said that on 5 clicks from softest it was just harder then stock and on 4 clicks it was comfortable.

Im still worried that even the softest setting will be to hard.. i.e feeling every bump in the road. Smashing over uneven roads and pot hole fillers and crashing into holes...

.QD how soft have you had them ? are they a comfortable coilover? Whats the range like on the 15 points on adjustment ?

Sorry if im confused and rambeling but im confused and my brain in rambeling xD

any help is appreciated :P

you know why i said that 10/7 was fkn comfortable cause i have tein MFP even harsher than N+ by too much.

even on 0/0 for tein it's slightly bumpier than n+.

N+ from my experience was in .QD's car and i showed him how to set the damper setting by twisting. So i told him to set it to 10/7 even for him he said it was a bit harder than his usual stock feel.

But each to their own i think N+ is worth it or even Tein SS as they are the most comfortable i've been in.
But N+ can go alot lower than any Tein that i know of except maybe the higher end racing ones.

[damienm]

No they're not.I have approx.35mm drop.
lol nah we dont have the same drop then, i think mine was about 50-60mm drop

[Crapdaz]

.QD be a man set it to 15/15 max it up!!!

can't wait to try it out after i get back from Bendigo!! Take me to the huntingwood place....

[tony1234]

lol nah we dont have the same drop then, i think mine was about 50-60mm drop
Yeah,with that drop no wonder u have problems in westfield etc.Try raising them to the approx.drop i have and i'm sure you'll enjoy them again.

[Crapdaz]

but scrapping is fun until you smash your lower arm bar (if you ahve one) :p

[felixd]

i used to run 12 cliks front and 10 clicks rear damn too hard for the passenger at the back :( now i run 10 front and 8 rear now it runs slightly better even the handling is still good no doubt.

1 more question other than camber wear on the rear tires what other parts will be under stress if the euro slammed to the max ?

[E_Honda]

What places do you guys recommend that stock Buddyclub N+ in Sydney or south syd areas??

[.QD]

jdmyard

[E_Honda]

jdmyard

Thanks, just sent them email asking for a quote.

Anyone know if the optional upper pillow-ball mount is really necessary for the buddyclub N+?

On the website it says this:
'optional urethane isolated upper pillow-ball mount. The urethane isolating ring keeps suspension noise to a minimal while maintaining the precision feel of a solid mounted strut.'

ALso read that it maintains the stability by minimizing the travel between the chassis and suspension.

[mreuro4]

Hey mate, I installed the k-sport coilovers yesterday, and they are great. Excellent value to. Bought them from adam at 999 automotive in bris. Cheer7.

[E_Honda]

Hey mate, I installed the k-sport coilovers yesterday, and they are great. Excellent value to. Bought them from adam at 999 automotive in bris. Cheer7.

Cool, how much they set you back? and did you get a camber alignment kit as well?

[mreuro4]

Hey mate, 999 have a special ATM @ $1700 or so. Give Adam a call. I bought a Wicked rear camber kit from the US on Ebay. So far the setup is perfect. Just have to get the rebound and damper set right. Cheers.

[Xplodin]

Trom what you are after, I'd go a set of coilovers.
Coilovers such as Tanabe sustec S-OC's are just a bit firmer than stock.
They give a very nice ride. Best of all, they are $US900 from the states.

Those K-sport ones seem the same as the D2 coilovers. Don't know if they are worth it or not.

Buddyclub N+ coilovers get a good wrap, as do Tein SS and basic's.
do the Tanabe have Damper Adjustable? I'm guessing not but just need confirmation

[Type R Positive]

do the Tanabe have Damper Adjustable? I'm guessing not but just need confirmation
No.
They got F8 R4 spring rates too.

[crunkman99]

im getting a set of racing logic coilovers now, any1 know what they are like?

[.QD]

have you tried searching for racing logic coilover on the forum?

[felixd]

U guys should do the DIY install its not hard :) im willing to help, PM me for pics guide

[E_Honda]

If i do get the Buddyclub N+ coilovers does it matter what brand camber alignment kit i get or do they all do the same job?? Do you guys have any preferences? and around how much am i looking at for the camber alignment kit?

[felixd]

dont need to go for the high end ones if u only want minimum camber get what suit ur budget :)

[Type R Positive]

If i do get the Buddyclub N+ coilovers does it matter what brand camber alignment kit i get or do they all do the same job?? Do you guys have any preferences? and around how much am i looking at for the camber alignment kit?Have a look, I think some work on the top, and others the bottom. Poke your head under your car to see what I mean.

[E_Honda]

dont need to go for the high end ones if u only want minimum camber get what suit ur budget :)

Yeah cool, just wanted to confirm if there are many quality differences between high end and low end camber kits. I'd prefer to pay a bit more if it means quality parts to work with my buddyclub kit.

[E_Honda]

has anyone bought from jdmyard in sydney? just wanna know if they have a good wrap before i buy from them

[felixd]

i got them there lol
purrfecctttt service

[Type R Positive]

has anyone bought from jdmyard in sydney? just wanna know if they have a good wrap before i buy from them
They have got an extremely good wrap mate, no worries there.

[Crapdaz]

excellent Rep on jdmyard...

[crunkman99]

ffs my coil over are taking 2 weeks, got to be made up in the US apparently

[E_Honda]

Ok, all you guys have given good feedback for JDmyard so i'll get my bc N+ from them. Can you guys confirm whether i'll need a camber alignment kit for the rear wheels? I'm not planning on dumping my car onto the road just low enough so the top of the wheels are in line with the body of the car or a bit lower. I can get camber kit from pedders $210 quoted for the whole arm and it can be re-adjusted back to stock if needed the guy told me.

[tony1234]

Ok, all you guys have given good feedback for JDmyard so i'll get my bc N+ from them. Can you guys confirm whether i'll need a camber alignment kit for the rear wheels? I'm not planning on dumping my car onto the road just low enough so the top of the wheels are in line with the body of the car or a bit lower. I can get camber kit from pedders $210 quoted for the whole arm and it can be re-adjusted back to stock if needed the guy told me.
You'll need a rear camber kit.

[felixd]

Ok, all you guys have given good feedback for JDmyard so i'll get my bc N+ from them. Can you guys confirm whether i'll need a camber alignment kit for the rear wheels? I'm not planning on dumping my car onto the road just low enough so the top of the wheels are in line with the body of the car or a bit lower. I can get camber kit from pedders $210 quoted for the whole arm and it can be re-adjusted back to stock if needed the guy told me.

WOOT in melbourne they like $300 + :( erghhhh i mite have to try another dealer

[E_Honda]

You'll need a rear camber kit.

Ok, so the one from pedders should be good enough then

[felixd]

i just got quoted its $210 for camber kit from pedders + installation :D

[E_Honda]

I got my BC N+ installed today and no camber kit was required. They did some slight adjustments to something since it did have some negative camber, don't know what they adjusted though.

I told them i wanted it low so the top of the tyre was flush in line with the guard but its slightly lower than that.

It scrapes on every little bump i go over and even when turning a bit to much or hitting a corner to hard the tyre scrapes on the guard. I'm gonna raise it tommorrow probably leave a bit of a gap between tyre and guard what do you guys think is a good setting on the car with 19" wheels where it wont scrap even if there are passengers in the back??

[defibros]

I got my BC N+ installed today and no camber kit was required. They did some slight adjustments to something since it did have some negative camber, don't know what they adjusted though.

I told them i wanted it low so the top of the tyre was flush in line with the guard but its slightly lower than that.

It scrapes on every little bump i go over and even when turning a bit to much or hitting a corner to hard the tyre scrapes on the guard. I'm gonna raise it tommorrow probably leave a bit of a gap between tyre and guard what do you guys think is a good setting on the car with 19" wheels where it wont scrap even if there are passengers in the back??


Any pics of how low it is?

[E_Honda]

Any pics of how low it is?

na i haven't taken any pics, but basically the top of the tyre is only just being covered by the guard. In other words you can still see tyre below the guard

[Crapdaz]

I got my BC N+ installed today and no camber kit was required. They did some slight adjustments to something since it did have some negative camber, don't know what they adjusted though.

I told them i wanted it low so the top of the tyre was flush in line with the guard but its slightly lower than that.

It scrapes on every little bump i go over and even when turning a bit to much or hitting a corner to hard the tyre scrapes on the guard. I'm gonna raise it tommorrow probably leave a bit of a gap between tyre and guard what do you guys think is a good setting on the car with 19" wheels where it wont scrap even if there are passengers in the back??
depends you either roll your guards if running really low or you have to run negative camber your choice.

But even rolling your guards will give you a little extra space on the front.

[E_Honda]

depends you either roll your guards if running really low or you have to run negative camber your choice.

But even rolling your guards will give you a little extra space on the front.

thats the thing i dont want it to be that low, i want to raise it up a bit just so it doesn't scrape. Its scraping front and back. Its actually at the shop as we speak getting raised up all round. I really gotta learn how to do it myself if it isn't to hard with the BC.

[Crapdaz]

thats the thing i dont want it to be that low, i want to raise it up a bit just so it doesn't scrape. Its scraping front and back. Its actually at the shop as we speak getting raised up all round. I really gotta learn how to do it myself if it isn't to hard with the BC.

The rear should be fine you can do a bit of tuckage but might be limited to a bit of negative camber.

The front if you don't want to scrub you prob be best to run almost 0 finger gap with a tad neg camber too.

[E_Honda]

The rear should be fine you can do a bit of tuckage but might be limited to a bit of negative camber.

The front if you don't want to scrub you prob be best to run almost 0 finger gap with a tad neg camber too.

I got it raised all round and now still sits at a nice height, front almost 0 finger gap and back 1-2 finger gap. Only scrubs on the front if i really turn hard at a round about or with someone in the back. When it does scrape it seems to be the outside of the tyre scraping against the strip of plastic that runs along the inside of the guard.

My new Zinik wheels should hopefully arrive next week sometime then i will prob raise it another 5mm or so and should be perfect.

[Crapdaz]

rear can go lower on 0 finger.... and it won't have troubles unless you don't like the negative camber...

[E_Honda]

rear can go lower on 0 finger.... and it won't have troubles unless you don't like the negative camber...

Any lower and it will scrape on the back for sure, especially if someone sits in the back

[Crapdaz]

what offset wheels are you running, you shouldn't have a problem cause .QD is running 19x8.5 +45 or so on zero gap and his fine, he clears the guards easily but then you got yoru wheels @ the rear aligned to stock setting right?.

[E_Honda]

what offset wheels are you running, you shouldn't have a problem cause .QD is running 19x8.5 +45 or so on zero gap and his fine, he clears the guards easily but then you got yoru wheels @ the rear aligned to stock setting right?.

I'm not sure of the offset of my wheels, the rear is aligned to about 1-2 finger gap no where near stock. It seems to be the outside of the tyres that scrape along the plastic strip along the inside of the guards. I originally had it low as QD and it was scraping on every little bump, i couldn't even get anywhere near a full turning circle while parking cause it was scraping.

[Crapdaz]

I'm not sure of the offset of my wheels, the rear is aligned to about 1-2 finger gap no where near stock. It seems to be the outside of the tyres that scrape along the plastic strip along the inside of the guards. I originally had it low as QD and it was scraping on every little bump, i couldn't even get anywhere near a full turning circle while parking cause it was scraping.

sorry i am talking about your rears,
your rear has nothing to do with turning circle.

I think your running +40 or lower offset, btw what damper setting are you running on the BC N+?
you are running too soft if your scrubbing every hump, and what about tyre pressure?

your scrapping your talking about is the fronts only?

if your rear scrubs its either your offset is too low or your camber is adjusted as close to stock as possible.

If you don't know what offset your wheels are how do you know they will fit properly?

[E_Honda]

sorry i am talking about your rears,
your rear has nothing to do with turning circle.

I think your running +40 or lower offset, btw what damper setting are you running on the BC N+?
you are running too soft if your scrubbing every hump, and what about tyre pressure?

your scrapping your talking about is the fronts only?

if your rear scrubs its either your offset is too low or your camber is adjusted as close to stock as possible.

If you don't know what offset your wheels are how do you know they will fit properly?

damper setting, i have nfi i got the place that installed my suspension to adjust the height i didnt know you could adjust the damper settings as well. If so its probably too soft cause its basically riding like stock maybe a bit harder.
Tyre pressure is 36 now, although yesterday when i checked it was only around 33-34psi.

The fronts are the main ones that scrape on some driveways and when hitting a corner hard. The back only scraped when i had someone in the back or again a bigger than normal bump on the road.

The place i'm getting the wheels from confirmed the wheels will fit on my car.

I really should learn how to adjust my coilovers now.

[.QD]

Yeah dude. I'm 19x8 +47, tyre pressure is 35-36psi. Your asking for trouble with 0 gap and yeah, your rear should be lower than the front. If your gonna do 0 gap do it right, do it all round :) but thats just me.

I had my front at 0 gap and rear with 1 finger tuck before it was nice, but wasnt clearing most things like "standard quick turns" scrape the plastic.

I'm on 1 finger gap all round. Okay for most things it's just the awkward uneven road and quick turns that scrape the guards, but thats a given.

Didnt read all your post but your coil-overs might probably still in the middle setting until they settle, will still sag. give it like two weeks or so if you drive it regularly then adjust the dampers and height if needed.

10click @ the front, 7 click @ the rear for me, still nice and comfy for a daily drive... others know what i mean.

[Crapdaz]

damper setting, i have nfi i got the place that installed my suspension to adjust the height i didnt know you could adjust the damper settings as well. If so its probably too soft cause its basically riding like stock maybe a bit harder.
Tyre pressure is 36 now, although yesterday when i checked it was only around 33-34psi.

The fronts are the main ones that scrape on some driveways and when hitting a corner hard. The back only scraped when i had someone in the back or again a bigger than normal bump on the road.

The place i'm getting the wheels from confirmed the wheels will fit on my car.

I really should learn how to adjust my coilovers now.
rofl if you like a firm ride, and you got an 06+ i'll say set it to 12f/10r, turn the knob ontop of the strut tower and here the clicks, clockwise to harden and counter clockwise to soften.

The rears you will need to remove the rear seat quarter panel on the side.
Pull base up until you feel the seat unhook and there is a 10mm bolt on the sideways which you undo with socket wrench then push the seat quarter panel up and pull out, then use your hand to stick in to get access to the rear damper knob.

IMO 32-33 is too soft so will cause you grief when cornering, but if you have a lip kit all around then cornering fast will kill you either way.


Yeah dude. I'm 19x8 +47, tyre pressure is 35-36psi. Your asking for trouble with 0 gap and yeah, your rear should be lower than the front. If your gonna do 0 gap do it right, do it all round :) but thats just me.

I had my front at 0 gap and rear with 1 finger tuck before it was nice, but wasnt clearing most things like "standard quick turns" scrape the plastic.

I'm on 1 finger gap all round. Okay for most things it's just the awkward uneven road and quick turns that scrape the guards, but thats a given.

Didnt read all your post but your coil-overs might probably still in the middle setting until they settle, will still sag. give it like two weeks or so if you drive it regularly then adjust the dampers and height if needed.

10click @ the front, 7 click @ the rear for me, still nice and comfy for a daily drive... others know what i mean.
funny arnotts boy, i love your ride comfort with coilies man.....
i am on 0-0.5 all round baby.
running 13-14 front / 10-12 rear rofl... hardcorish!

[.QD]

I think E_Honda needs to come to the Euro meet/cruise...

Dude post pix of your car with the N+ installed.


http://myeuro.qrisworld.com/images/IMG_0119.jpg
This is what I'm talking about. I only had the rear tread tucking and 0 to half finger gap.

[Crapdaz]

I think he needs to search more on forums before jumping in and buying stuff as well as your opinion of coming to Euro meets/cruises.

tHIS THREAD IS USELESS WITHOUT PICS.

[E_Honda]

I think E_Honda needs to come to the Euro meet/cruise...

Dude post pix of your car with the N+ installed.


http://myeuro.qrisworld.com/images/IMG_0119.jpg
This is what I'm talking about. I only had the rear tread tucking and 0 to half finger gap.

I think that sounds like a plan although 7th march is my bday so i'm out for the meet, and a maybe for the cruise.

Yeah that looks nice, i dont have a kit so i've got less chance of scraping in that area.

I'll upload some pics soon of when it was too low and scraping everywhere. I dont have current pics with it raised a bit.

[E_Honda]

I think he needs to search more on forums before jumping in and buying stuff as well as your opinion of coming to Euro meets/cruises.

tHIS THREAD IS USELESS WITHOUT PICS.

dude, I didnt just jump into buying the BC N+, i was on this forum reading different opinions and posting my own for months before i went ahead and bought it. What i meant to say was i knew it could be damper adjustable but didnt know how to do it.

Pics coming later this arvo

[E_Honda]

Heres pics of my car when it was dumped too low and obviously its on a slope so it wont really give you an exact picture of how it sits. Pics courtesy of my dodgy camera phone.

http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt193/e_h0nda/DSC01211.jpg
http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt193/e_h0nda/DSC01208.jpg
http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt193/e_h0nda/DSC01210.jpg

This is what it will hopefully look like when i get the new wheels:

http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt193/e_h0nda/M2W-Chop7.jpg

[Crapdaz]

dude, I didnt just jump into buying the BC N+, i was on this forum reading different opinions and posting my own for months before i went ahead and bought it. What i meant to say was i knew it could be damper adjustable but didnt know how to do it.

Pics coming later this arvo
nah it's alright mang just unclear,

as i explained in my earlier post on how to adjust it.


I think that sounds like a plan although 7th march is my bday so i'm out for the meet, and a maybe for the cruise.

Yeah that looks nice, i dont have a kit so i've got less chance of scraping in that area.

I'll upload some pics soon of when it was too low and scraping everywhere. I dont have current pics with it raised a bit.
yeh hope to see you at a future event sometime.

can't see your piccies cause i am @ work so look @ them when i get home.

[.QD]

What profile are your tyres?

[E_Honda]

nah it's alright mang just unclear,

as i explained in my earlier post on how to adjust it.


yeh hope to see you at a future event sometime.

can't see your piccies cause i am @ work so look @ them when i get home.

no worries Crapdaz, yeah i'll see you at one of them for sure. Hopefully with my new wheels cause they're taking their sweet time to come from the US.

[E_Honda]

What profile are your tyres?

I'll go check my tyre profile on my next break from work, about 4ish if your still online

[E_Honda]

What profile are your tyres?

The profile on the tyre is 235/35zr19 91y

[.QD]

Yeah, that's another reason why you scrub. I'm running 225/35/19.

[E_Honda]

Yeah, that's another reason why you scrub. I'm running 225/35/19.

Ah ok so mine is wider by a bit, that makes sense.

It could also be the softness/stiffness of the damper thats the difference between each of our cars.

[E_Honda]

Just found out the new wheels specs:

BRAND: ZINIK
MODEL: Z-24
SIZE: 19'' (19x8)
P.C.D: 5/114.3,5/120
OFFSET: 35P,42P
CENTRE BORE: 73.1
FINISH: CHROME WITH BLACK INSERTS

[Crapdaz]

yeh as stated your running wider tyres...
looks to me your going to run staggered offsets on your car...

42 on front and 35 rear

if you want to run the 235 tyres you will need a fair bit of negative camber for no scrub or you have to raise the car.

[E_Honda]

yeh as stated your running wider tyres...
looks to me your going to run staggered offsets on your car...

42 on front and 35 rear

if you want to run the 235 tyres you will need a fair bit of negative camber for no scrub or you have to raise the car.

I'm getting wheel alignment done today, since i didnt have it done when i got suspension fitted, found out i was running -3 camber at the rear wheels so getting camber kit installed to bring it back to -1 to -1.5 camber. I'm gonna have to roll the rear guards cause tyres will be inline with the guards which could cause some damage unless i roll the guards asap.

Anyone else with 19" wheels 235 tyres have to roll the rear guards when lowering the car??

[Crapdaz]

I'm getting wheel alignment done today, since i didnt have it done when i got suspension fitted, found out i was running -3 camber at the rear wheels so getting camber kit installed to bring it back to -1 to -1.5 camber. I'm gonna have to roll the rear guards cause tyres will be inline with the guards which could cause some damage unless i roll the guards asap.

Anyone else with 19" wheels 235 tyres have to roll the rear guards when lowering the car??
sounds about right with the drop you have,

from the top of my head if you were running 225 you shouldn't have too many problems.... but it's alright wait for someone who is running 19" & 235 to reply.

[E_Honda]

sounds about right with the drop you have,

from the top of my head if you were running 225 you shouldn't have too many problems.... but it's alright wait for someone who is running 19" & 235 to reply.

Just came from my panel beater mate and he said they can't roll the rear guards cause the way honda's, mercs and a few other cars are designed they have a thick strip of plastic along the inside of the guard and if he does roll it then i'll have that plastic hanging down and it will still scrub on that either way.

With my new wheels do you know if i can run 225 tyres on them? if so that should fix my problems, but yeah i'm still curious if anyone on here has 235's and had the same probs i'm having.

[Crapdaz]

damn ah wells,

with ppl running 235 on the forum, they all run pretty intense negative camber which will eat away your rubber like no tomorrow.

Ask georgeeuro i think his got 235.

What is the distance from scrubbing the arch @ the rear when standing still? Try stiffening the rear damper and see if it helps.

[E_Honda]

damn ah wells,

with ppl running 235 on the forum, they all run pretty intense negative camber which will eat away your rubber like no tomorrow.

Ask georgeeuro i think his got 235.

What is the distance from scrubbing the arch @ the rear when standing still? Try stiffening the rear damper and see if it helps.

I'd prefer to go 225 tyres if i can on my new wheels and keep as little negative camber as possible.

The rear on standing still is about 1.5 fingers from tyre to arch. I think i will stiffen the damper less chance of hitting for now. I might try 10f/7r like QD.

[Crapdaz]

assuming the installer new what he was doing and followed instructions yours should be set around 7 on the rear already.

Else turn the knob all the way counterclockwise until it doesn't turn (don't over turn or you will damage the damper).

Then retwist to how you like it.

I think for you doing twisties and all or cornering hard you should be running 12/10 and you'd prob like it better.

Go with 225 and you should be fine IMO.

[Crapdaz]

8" with 225 tyres

approximation of 225mm for 203.2mm of wheel
which gives you around of 21.8mm from tyre sticking out

10.9mm each side of the rim.

[.QD]

Hmmm... there's heaps of people here with rolled guards, rear, front or all round. Rein has his all round. I'm pretty sure he still has the plastic.. otherwise need to hack the plastic so it tucks when you roll the guards or remove the plastic lining.

Gonna get mine rolled soon'ish as they couldnt do much with my camber either. So camber kit is useless atm.

You either put up with the camber and tyre wear or hack some more for less camber and scrubbing or 4wd stock look... :D

[Crapdaz]

Hmmm... there's heaps of people here with rolled guards, rear, front or all round. Rein has his all round. I'm pretty sure he still has the plastic.. otherwise need to hack the plastic so it tucks when you roll the guards or remove the plastic lining.

Gonna get mine rolled soon'ish as they couldnt do much with my camber either. So camber kit is useless atm.

You either put up with the camber and tyre wear or hack some more for less camber and scrubbing or 4wd stock look... :D
alternatively you can pump your guards out instead. :p

[E_Honda]

8" with 225 tyres

approximation of 225mm for 203.2mm of wheel
which gives you around of 21.8mm from tyre sticking out

10.9mm each side of the rim.

I'm going for 19" with the new veels, can you fit 225 tyres on those?

whats the best way to measure it atm to see if with 225 tyres on those ziniks will give enough clearance?

[E_Honda]

Hmmm... there's heaps of people here with rolled guards, rear, front or all round. Rein has his all round. I'm pretty sure he still has the plastic.. otherwise need to hack the plastic so it tucks when you roll the guards or remove the plastic lining.

Gonna get mine rolled soon'ish as they couldnt do much with my camber either. So camber kit is useless atm.

You either put up with the camber and tyre wear or hack some more for less camber and scrubbing or 4wd stock look... :D

I might just get it rolled and yeah either get rid of the plastic or hack the crap out of it, cause i wanna keep the -1 camber i have. I'd prefer to keep tred on my tyres for longer than a week :p

If i can just go 225 tyre profile or any other tyre profile thats more narrow and fits on the Ziniks i'd prefer that over hacking or rolling the guards

[tknova]

Ehonda, your euro looks the same as my euro did on the same wheels (wheels are sold now)

** sorry for the oversized pic **
http://onfinite.com/libraries/1146588/961.jpg
** sorry for the oversized pic **
I think you went for the right option though, heard good stuff about the budyclubs!

[Crapdaz]

your pics aren't big enuf and nor are your wheels tknova! rofl

you need rubber band tyres... :p

[E_Honda]

lol mines no where near as low as yours in that pic tknova, were you running heaps of negative camber at the rear? cause i cant see how you fitted it under the guards if you didnt. Or did you roll the guards??

yeah the buddyclubs are nice!

[tknova]

lol mines no where near as low as yours in that pic tknova, were you running heaps of negative camber at the rear? cause i cant see how you fitted it under the guards if you didnt. Or did you roll the guards??

yeah the buddyclubs are nice!

Yeh, was running a little bit, had about -3 at the rear. Without the ingal rear camber kit was running about -4.5

Never rubbed though, guard wern't rolled.

I also had my wheels machined for a better offset which would help.

[tknova]

your pics aren't big enuf and nor are your wheels tknova! rofl

you need rubber band tyres... :p

Hah, tell me about it. No longer running big wheels and now running the euro 17" sport wheels. Have never looked back.

[Crapdaz]

hahaha big wheels are very uneconomical :p see everyone who is VIP will revert :p

[E_Honda]

hahaha big wheels are very uneconomical :p see everyone who is VIP will revert :p

I think i'm starting to see the light :D

Too bad big wheels look noice as!

[E_Honda]

just spoke to the place i'm getting the wheels from and i might get the wheels machined to lower the offset for the rear so it won't stick out of the guard so much, that, plus a 225 tyre if needed and i should be good, keeping only -1 camber as well.

[tknova]

just spoke to the place i'm getting the wheels from and i might get the wheels machined to lower the offset for the rear so it won't stick out of the guard so much, that, plus a 225 tyre if needed and i should be good, keeping only -1 camber as well.


Machine all 4 of them, not just 2

[E_Honda]

Machine all 4 of them, not just 2

does it make much of a difference to machine the wheels? does it take the wheels under the guards more?

[Crapdaz]

i reckon your current offset is too big of a difference; 42 should be fine but your 32 is too low.

[E_Honda]

i reckon your current offset is too big of a difference; 42 should be fine but your 32 is too low.

How do you know my current offset? is that the offsets for the Advanti wheels i currently have?

[Crapdaz]

well i mean the ones your going to get....

do the ones you have now do they stick past the guard or not? if they do they are < +40

[E_Honda]

well i mean the ones your going to get....

do the ones you have now do they stick past the guard or not? if they do they are < +40

its 42 and 35 offset the new ones.

The current ones, the Advanti's only the rear sticks out slightly past the guard

[Crapdaz]

its 42 and 35 offset the new ones.

The current ones, the Advanti's only the rear sticks out slightly past the guard


if it is stick past the guard then your prob running 38.
so hence why you have problems with scrubbing with ppl sitting in the back.


your new wheels your getting will have the same problems since its got lower offset so machine your +35 to something higher.

[E_Honda]

if it is stick past the guard then your prob running 38.
so hence why you have problems with scrubbing with ppl sitting in the back.


your new wheels your getting will have the same problems since its got lower offset so machine your +35 to something higher.

Alright i'm confused, i thought offset is the measurement from the centre of the wheel to where it gets bolted onto the car? so from what i understand the higher then number (+35 and greater) the more it will stick out and i thought the lower the number < 35 will be closer into the car.

SO machining it will take it from +35 to say +32 for example, and therefore more inside the guard??

Is this correct or am i way off track?

[Crapdaz]

no....

the higher offset the the further in it sits inside the guard.

e.g my +50 wheels sit closer into the guard then my +43 which sits almost flush with guards

THE LOWER OFFSET YOU GO E.G +32 THE FURTHER IT SITS OUTSIDE OF YOUR GUARDS.

OFFSET - the distance from centre line of the wheel to the hub of the wheel.
EXAMPLE: IF you have 32mm (+32) from centre line to hub which means the wheel would sit far into the guard when installing.

Where as 50mm (+50) would be pushed in 50mm into the hub of your car which means it will sit further in than your +32 18mm more.

[E_Honda]

no....

the higher offset the the further in it sits inside the guard.

e.g my +50 wheels sit closer into the guard then my +43 which sits almost flush with guards

THE LOWER OFFSET YOU GO E.G +32 THE FURTHER IT SITS OUTSIDE OF YOUR GUARDS.

OFFSET - the distance from centre line of the wheel to the hub of the wheel.
EXAMPLE: IF you have 32mm (+32) from centre line to hub which means the wheel would sit far into the guard when installing.

Where as 50mm (+50) would be pushed in 50mm into the hub of your car which means it will sit further in than your +32 18mm more.



Ok, thanks for the explanation i get it now. So machining the wheels will give a higher offset. Do you know how much machining actually increases the offset by? and is there are disadvantage of machining wheels like affecting the wheels integrity?

[Crapdaz]

Ok, thanks for the explanation i get it now. So machining the wheels will give a higher offset. Do you know how much machining actually increases the offset by? and is there are disadvantage of machining wheels like affecting the wheels integrity?

I am unsure on what offset can be gained but imo i wouldn't like to machine wheels cause of that particular reason.

[E_Honda]

I am unsure on what offset can be gained but imo i wouldn't like to machine wheels cause of that particular reason.

Just confirmed i get a choice of +45 front and rear and +35 front and rear offset for the new veels, so +45 ftw with 225 tyres and i should be good.

[Crapdaz]

yeh then think about rolling guards once you get tyre put on and height adjusted to your liking...

[E_Honda]

I managed to get the specs from the inside of my current wheels (Only checked the fronts), there were more numbers than these but the ones below were marked with an 'X' in a check box so i'm assuming these are the values of my current wheels.

ET 42
PCD 100
114

I'm guessing 42 is offset value, so my new wheels being + 45 will fit in the guards better, i hope.

[E_Honda]

Once the cars lowered the traction control doesn't work does it? I've tried to make the VSA come into play but it doesn't anymore.

[Crapdaz]

Once the cars lowered the traction control doesn't work does it? I've tried to make the VSA come into play but it doesn't anymore.
It does work, just that your centre of gravity has gone higher so its harder to get it kicked in on the street.

When it is greater, you need more force to make it kick in.

If you ever go to track you will find VSA being a b1tch if your using it.

[E_Honda]

It does work, just that your centre of gravity has gone higher so its harder to get it kicked in on the street.

When it is greater, you need more force to make it kick in.

If you ever go to track you will find VSA being a b1tch if your using it.

Ok cool, so i guess once i get over turning the car into a luxury vehicle and kick into racing mods i'll see what you mean on the track :thumbsup:

[Crapdaz]

Ok cool, so i guess once i get over turning the car into a luxury vehicle and kick into racing mods i'll see what you mean on the track :thumbsup:
you can occassionally get it to kick in on roundabouts depending the way you drive.

but if your driving mainly highways and main roads there is no chance, unless you drop into a dip in the road and then it may kick in.

[The X Man]

Anyone here with coilovers ever had an accident with them fitted? I am interested as coilovers ARE illegal and i am wondering if Insurance assessors have picked up that you have coilovers fitted and subsequently denied any claims.

My insurance policy states any illegal modification made to the vehicle may result in denied claims.

[racerwannabe]

Anyone here with coilovers ever had an accident with them fitted? I am interested as coilovers ARE illegal and i am wondering if Insurance assessors have picked up that you have coilovers fitted and subsequently denied any claims.

My insurance policy states any illegal modification made to the vehicle may result in denied claims.

Are you sure coilovers are illegal? Eg Fulcrum suspension are the official australian supplier of Tein so by your statement they are selling an illegal product which doesnt seem to make sense to me...pls correct me if im wrong..

[The X Man]

Yep. I have been checking several ADR's and all state any suspension that is adjustable in height is deemed illegal.

Lots of people sell coilovers, including pedders but the legal side of things doesn't stop anyone from selling them.

[tony1234]

Yep. I have been checking several ADR's and all state any suspension that is adjustable in height is deemed illegal.

Lots of people sell coilovers, including pedders but the legal side of things doesn't stop anyone from selling them.
Hmmm,interesting.Can anyone here with an insurance background comment on this?

[Crapdaz]

yeh i read about it too before i got my teins.

You really are suppose to get it approved but no one does and if your insurer insures you for lowered suspension then it doesn't matter anyhow.

More likely to get trouble from cops for being too low than having coilovers.

[power_of_dreams]

Yep. I have been checking several ADR's and all state any suspension that is adjustable in height is deemed illegal.

Lots of people sell coilovers, including pedders but the legal side of things doesn't stop anyone from selling them.

wtf!!

[E_Honda]

I just had to renew my comprehensive insurance the other day and NRMA, QBE, Allianz, Budget direct wouldn't insure me when i did the quote over the phone because i said i had lowered suspension. None of them asked if i had coil overs or just springs etc they just refused to insure me because the car has been lowered. I ended up going with GIO which accepted it

[Crapdaz]

I just had to renew my comprehensive insurance the other day and NRMA, QBE, Allianz, Budget direct wouldn't insure me when i did the quote over the phone because i said i had lowered suspension. None of them asked if i had coil overs or just springs etc they just refused to insure me because the car has been lowered. I ended up going with GIO which accepted it
wtf lol,

well i am insured with NRMA under dad's policy so it's cheaper since i am not over 25 and because his been with NRMA all his life and with other policies with nrma he gets the further discount.

Atm i am insured with all my mods, they do not do specific mods. They only do category mods so it's more vague e.g exhaust ($2000 value), wheels ($3000) etc....

[E_Honda]

wtf lol,

well i am insured with NRMA under dad's policy so it's cheaper since i am not over 25 and because his been with NRMA all his life and with other policies with nrma he gets the further discount.

Atm i am insured with all my mods, they do not do specific mods. They only do category mods so it's more vague e.g exhaust ($2000 value), wheels ($3000) etc....

yeah probably let you go cause the policy holder is over 25 and maybe they let suspension and other mods slide with the oldies

[Accord Basic]

does anyone can give me commands on the following set and which one you like to buy?

CL9 (ACCORD) HONDA BILSTEIN (B12) SHOCK + H&R SPRING 1 SET
for AUD 1300 + shipping

or

CL9 (ACCORD) HONDA MUGEN SPORT SUSPENSION SET F5.3 R3.3 (-25MM)
for AUD 1500 + shipping

or

King Springs and Koni shock
for AUD 1400 + shipping

[tony1234]

does anyone can give me commands on the following set and which one you like to buy?

CL9 (ACCORD) HONDA BILSTEIN (B12) SHOCK + H&R SPRING 1 SET
for AUD 1300 + shipping

or

CL9 (ACCORD) HONDA MUGEN SPORT SUSPENSION SET F5.3 R3.3 (-25MM)
for AUD 1500 + shipping

or

King Springs and Koni shock
for AUD 1400 + shipping
Any of them would be a good choice but with option 3 ditch the King springs and replace with either H&R or Eibach.Don't forget you'll need a rear camber kit too.