Nissan pulsar sss vs integra vtir [Archive]

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Moey.C

22-01-2009, 10:03 PM

hey guys i gott a n14 sss and im determined 2 buy an integra vtir.. have already test driven some and they feel alot smoother n harder than my lil sss

just want an opinion from any1 with a vtir

have u races any sss's? howd u go against em..

and dont be 2 bias... sr20 is not bad but would rather the b18c

NightKids

22-01-2009, 10:04 PM

Strictly prohibited... *closed*

eg5civic

22-01-2009, 10:06 PM

sss pulsar puts out like... 98kw at the fly

b18c is what like 120 or something at the fly

go figure of course the b18c goes harder

i reckon a b16a eg would beat a sss let alone a vtir teg

Moey.C

22-01-2009, 10:08 PM

nah ive raced alot of crxs... munched em all..

b16a is the crx engine yeh? lol (not a crx fan)

90LAN

22-01-2009, 10:12 PM

not quite alot have a zc motor in them 1.6 dohc 96kw

denrie

22-01-2009, 10:16 PM

nah crx engine are b16a2 doode theres a difference between b16a and b16a2

b16a= japspec
b16a2=aus spec

By the way i ran my stock pulsar Q n14, sr20 stock everything. NO intake, no header,no exhaust,
15.6 1/4 mile

90LAN

22-01-2009, 10:20 PM

90LAN

22-01-2009, 10:22 PM

nah ive raced alot of crxs... munched em all..

b16a is the crx engine yeh? lol (not a crx fan)

maybe they were all sexy spec crxs with big body kits and 18/19/20 chromies
and 4 inch cannons lol

maybe pm egjoe
he has owned a sss pulsar before
but once he got a vtec honda he has admitted it was lets say better

Moey.C

22-01-2009, 10:23 PM

i dont think kw's makes a diff as much as u think.. coz redbook has my sss at 105 but a crx b16a at 117 or 118 or something.. but ive munched a 3 or 4 of em.. and i mean munch.. better start.. n i pull away.. but my n14 is jap spec sss sr20de

I heart the SSS

22-01-2009, 10:25 PM

I had an SSS.

I've driven B16's etc and the SSS is still quick.

Again boils down to car / specs / driver / tyres / reactions etc.

remember the 2.0 has more bottom end then the B16A.

So torque is what you want to look at, not kilowatts.

90LAN

22-01-2009, 10:25 PM

dont watse your money if u have a fast car already
because you will have to spent quite alot to get it up to your sss specs
if you go tthe integra
better to turbo it
theres a few fast turbo sss around

V73C

22-01-2009, 10:26 PM

get a VZR pulsar...

I heart the SSS

22-01-2009, 10:28 PM

11 sec fast at that.. (N15 sss turbo)

90LAN

22-01-2009, 10:29 PM

11 sec fast at that.. (N15 sss turbo)

year that one and a few others

Moey.C

22-01-2009, 10:31 PM

i am a p plater and ive loved teggies since i was 10. my brother tells me the integras are better... better reliability aswell

V73C

22-01-2009, 10:41 PM

nissan vtak ???
pulsar VZR-175hp 1.6L variable valve and lift timing ?

90LAN

22-01-2009, 10:47 PM

nissan vtak ???
pulsar VZR-175hp 1.6L variable valve and lift timing ?

and your point .......
b16b 185 hp 1.6L 9000rpm vtec

denrie

22-01-2009, 10:52 PM

its up to you doode. both good cars.. both have power option, both are commonl.... but at the end what do u think is worth and u can keep the value?.... i still have the n14 in my garage .. its got really good torque obviously cause its 2.0 u can fit in massive kunt in the car with no problem and still be able to pull.... but where as on top end youll probabyly die off after 5-6 k rpm .. ive seen vtir stock ones... pulling the same time around 15.6.15.9 .16.0 but there shit drivers... ur capable pulling a low 15 with intake header exhaust with a good launch :D

Moey.C

22-01-2009, 11:05 PM

denrie

22-01-2009, 11:08 PM

hehehe i was gana say vtir looks better but didnt wanna offend as u said dnt be bias? if ur dream is type r might aswell wait

90LAN

22-01-2009, 11:08 PM

thanks guys.. i dunno now. might just work my sss or might get the vtir but probly leaning 2wards the vtir as itll hold its value more... and they look better :D

im thinkin of gettin the vtir n saving up over the years 2 buy my dream dc2 R :D

thanks guys

just keep your car then save for the the dc2r
and get it when u are on your opens
thats if u can keep your licence for that long lol
with such a quick car

yourfather

22-01-2009, 11:21 PM

save your cash and turbo your SSS.

The only good looking teg VTi-R is the facelift one, but they made so few.

Just either get Type R or Boost your SSS

denrie

22-01-2009, 11:23 PM

no traction

magicmike

22-01-2009, 11:23 PM

and your point .......
b16b 185 hp 1.6L 9000rpm vtec

The guy was just throwing it into the equation, don't have to be harsh about it.

BTW your comparing Honda's best 1.6L engine to the normal VZR. The VZR N1 on the other hand, has 197 bhp. But let's save that argument for another thread hey?

Anyways, to the OP ... DC2 > SSS ;)

Moey.C

22-01-2009, 11:23 PM

boosting is not an option.. my dad is a driving instructor n very very anal with the laws n shit lol..

Moey.C

22-01-2009, 11:25 PM

The guy was just throwing it into the equation, don't have to be harsh about it.

BTW your comparing Honda's best 1.6L engine to the normal VZR. The VZR N1 on the other hand, has 197 bhp. But let's save that argument for another thread hey?

Anyways, to the OP ... DC2 > SSS ;)

did u mean DC2 > SSS as in vtir or type r ? ?

bigspoon

22-01-2009, 11:35 PM

just get a gtir pulsar and b done with it all

magicmike

22-01-2009, 11:38 PM

did u mean DC2 > SSS as in vtir or type r ? ?

lol both

040501912

22-01-2009, 11:38 PM

not boosting it.. lol...

ENGINE SWAP!! easy!
its LEGAL and Roadworthy ... standard engine (new model) put in on the older model...
better faster engine.. lol..

well.. if ur dad v.anal about it.. save up some money get CIVIC with b18c for under 12k or get the teggy lol...

Moey.C

23-01-2009, 12:10 AM

u know wat.. me n my bro just had a half hour convo.. fuk everything.. im keeping my SSS.. its not a nugget n i should be thankful.. so should all uz man :D

im saving up 2 buy my type r when im a good enuf driver 2 handle it... bit more than a yr... i like my sss i dont mind it...

thanks heaps cuz

GSi_PSi

23-01-2009, 12:20 AM

before this gets locked away. my old engine GSi would blow away SSS at least 2 cars. Let alone a VTi-R. My mate has a SSS and i drive it regularly its nothing special. Pm me if ya want to knoe more....

dsp26

23-01-2009, 06:50 AM

these are both my cars:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/dsp26/Dyno%20Sheets/B16_sr20-1.jpg

sr20 has I/H/E/11:1cr

b16 has I/H/E/Cams/11:1cr

most honda drivers still live in the dream of peak numbers win races... the sr20 has a lot of torque.

my sr20 car ran 14.8 with a high 2.2 60ft

b16a is an overrated piece of shit and fan boys will be fan boys... these engines only work on a light chassis or combined with an itr gearbox or with better final drive

but back to topic... dc2vtir if your willing to work it.

sr20 if you want cheap linear power... ask member SHW70Y he's got the right sr20 setup.

the mistake most sr20 owners do is work the head with cams etc.. get their magical 110wkw+ figure and don't bump the compression from the stock 9.5:1.. absolute nuggets. Get either Tomei ProCams or order JWT cams from the states, either S4/S5/C2 spec and shave your head no more than 2mm for 11:1cr and purchase a par engineering frlywheel from gccorp in minto and i promise you an easy 13sec car!!!:thumbsup:

Gio

23-01-2009, 06:59 AM

All i know is that i was told when this came up ages ago that a stock ek4 will just nose ahead from a stock sr20 down the 1/4

VT-11-RR

23-01-2009, 06:59 AM

vtir all the way brother

thegame-01

23-01-2009, 07:06 AM

SSS n14:
Power 105kW @ 6400rpm

DC2 VTIR:
Power 125kW @ 7300rpm

vtec baby lol

dsp26

23-01-2009, 07:46 AM

SSS n14:
Power 105kW @ 6400rpm

DC2 VTIR:
Power 125kW @ 7300rpm

vtec baby lol
ok n00b. another peson that doesn't understand or appreciate what vtec is and what its for

their dyno graphs are almost the same at topend with the sr20 having a fatter midrange

a b16 is a downgrade and a b18c2 isn't much of an upgrade

had this been a versus type r thread then i would've been on the same bandwagon

immigymp

23-01-2009, 10:07 AM

11.5 compression, huge cams, and pulsar = fun... friend had a dc2 type r with a few mods around 130kw and the pulsar keeps up with it.

I heart the SSS

23-01-2009, 10:13 AM

immigymp

23-01-2009, 10:16 AM

yes Milad's car is fassst, he is one of many who have run 13's with that many mods... not to mention all the dyno time that has gone into that thing. Will be interesting to see the new motor in it..

dsp26

23-01-2009, 10:58 AM

I'm down with DSP on this one,

After all it is a honda forum so people are going to be liek VTEEEECCC NOSSSS POWERSHIIFFFFFTTTT!!

But a worked SR20 can easily run 13's N/A (again ask Milad)

Who on here owns a 13 second N/A B16A on ozhonda...

If there is someone, how much did it cost compared to Milads car.

Enough said. Milad is building a 12 second motor at the moment...

Torque > Vtec.

yeah...

don't get me wrong i'm not a hater but...

mod for mod a fwd sr20 motor shits on a b18c2... HOWEVER...

the sr20 reaches its limits because theres not many parts for it.. it's limited to valvetrain/cams/i/h/e/fly/clutch/some pistons options

BUT the B-series honda's have sooooooooooo many more parts you can add on top which gives it the edge in the long run.... so then reality kicks in, apart from the dedicated racers and shops on here that have the beastiest setups... who actually has had the funds to complete a honda motor to it's fullest potential? man a b16/b18c2 with head work is still a half arsed project nowhere near its potential without AT LEAST the ITR gearbox

80%+ of members here are comparing cars with only i/h/e... thats not modifying and sorry to tell you guys that doesn't make you enthusiasts and it doesn't make your car fast... it gives your vtaaaak an extra 20kw over any other car manufacturer for only what..... 500rpm?

and you people wonder why holden/ford drivers get the shits with h00nduh drivers?? because theres uneducated people on here who go vtak y0 and vtak is best and don't even understand how it works....

and then i see the usual awesome guys here put up excellent track and drag strip times which is awesome... and then you look at the rest of 80%+ of said uneducated members here who can beat everything on the road and have no time slip to show for it.... try the drags fellas.. you'll be surprised how different launching is between the streets and traffic lights.

i never lost to a sss or dc2vtir or ekvtir on the roads either in my day when i had my 93wkw nx coupe... then i saw reality when i hit the drags... it's still a nugget

hectik_7

23-01-2009, 11:37 AM

VTIR>sss

Straight out, its a way more enjoyable car to drive, comfortable and way more sexier.

at the end of the day boys, his on his p'z, i don't think he's gonna be working his motor for 13 second times, and as said his dad is anal about the new "laws".

hectik_7

23-01-2009, 11:39 AM

Moey.C

23-01-2009, 11:42 AM

dsp26. ur right cuz lol

80% of dem are over the moon about vtecs..

but ive decided last night 2 keep the sss and save up for the dc2R

like u said the b18c2 isnt all dat much better but the type r b18c which i think is a b18c7 should run low 14's stock..

matching s15's s14's n rexies stock 2 stock.

im gonna save up 4 the type r n when i get it itll be worth it ye?

and i think im gonna add milad lol? 13's N/A sss . . not bad lol

hectik_7

23-01-2009, 11:44 AM

work it out laaaa

manyak were u from?

Limbo

23-01-2009, 12:20 PM

its a pref.
b16 stock mid 15s to high 15s
b18c2 - low 15s to mid 15s
b18c7 - high 14s to mid 15s.

Not sure about the SSS, but its an SR20, and they are solid engines from the ones i've seen. End of the day though they are getting to be old engines same as the B series.

If your gonna upgrade i'd say get a k series. But its all about pref. All the SR20, B16/18 are good motors and all depends on what you like and how much money your gonna put into it.

Q_ball

23-01-2009, 12:27 PM

boosting is not an option.. my dad is a driving instructor n very very anal with the laws n shit lol..
So how would he feel about you racing people on the streets?

before this gets locked away. my old engine GSi would blow away SSS at least 2 cars. Let alone a VTi-R. My mate has a SSS and i drive it regularly its nothing special. Pm me if ya want to knoe more....
You're my hero!

To the OP, looks like you've made up your mind.
Case closed.