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vaikis
09-02-2009, 06:27 PM
Hello, how is comfort with Buddy club N+ coilovers compared to stock ?
Spring rates: F12 R6, maybe someone knows whats is Stock spring rates ?

Buddy Club N+ softests settings = stock ?

.QD
09-02-2009, 07:28 PM
What are you actually trying to achieve though? Your obviously going to lower the car from stock height right?

I've only actually had my N+ on 7f/7r clicks, then changed front to 10 and left rear at 7 clicks.

It's comfy in a lowered kinda way, if you know what I mean. If you lower the car and have it at the lowest/softest setting you'll scrub/scrape.

vaikis
09-02-2009, 08:18 PM
yes I whant to lower the car and thinking about Buddy Club N+ coilovers.

.QD
09-02-2009, 08:39 PM
So how low are you going and what are going to do? Just a daily drive?

vaikis
09-02-2009, 08:53 PM
So how low are you going and what are going to do? Just a daily drive?


lower 30-40 mm. Just for daily drive ;)

felixd
09-02-2009, 09:01 PM
just go 6 cliks front and 5 cliks rear thats the softest ive been on rides like stock

EG5
09-02-2009, 09:21 PM
Different spring rates on different shocks = different stiffness/ feeling.

.QD
09-02-2009, 09:23 PM
Also depends on what size wheels/tyre profile your going to be running, if you are changing wheels.

vaikis
09-02-2009, 09:37 PM
225/45/r17 ;)

vaikis
09-02-2009, 09:39 PM
Different spring rates on different shocks = different stiffness/ feeling.


this I know, question is if Buddy club N+ softest settings = almost stock.

.QD
09-02-2009, 09:54 PM
You could say "almost" stock. This was pretty comfy...
http://myeuro.qrisworld.com/images/IMG_0308-800.jpg
But you will always scrape being low and having it on a soft setting.

integral90
09-02-2009, 10:14 PM
Chris gets low... and tail-happy! :D

aaronng
09-02-2009, 10:18 PM
Will be bouncy on bad roads like RNP, unlike stock where it soaks up the bumps.

vaikis
09-02-2009, 10:24 PM
You could say "almost" stock. This was pretty comfy...
http://myeuro.qrisworld.com/images/IMG_0308-800.jpg
But you will always scrape being low and having it on a soft setting.

I don't need such big drop :)

.QD
09-02-2009, 10:58 PM
Higher than this?
http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj373/_q_d/Euro010109/IMG_0782-wb.jpg

vaikis
09-02-2009, 11:05 PM
Same height, but wheels R17, yours R19 or I'am wrong ?

.QD
09-02-2009, 11:06 PM
Ya, I'm on 19s.

vaikis
09-02-2009, 11:16 PM
Ya, I'm on 19s.

And how ride comfort ?

Crapdaz
10-02-2009, 06:23 AM
ride was fkn awesome.....in .QD's car that is.....i haven't tried his car on full stiffest setting yet will soon when i get my car back to drive around town again. His setting was set 10/7 (front/back)

but then again comparing from N+ and tein MFP.

mofolo
24-03-2009, 11:19 PM
Hey, i live in Vic.
Any places where i could find these BuddyClub Bad Boys?
Need them for 04 Euro.

felixd
25-03-2009, 05:51 AM
im running on buddyclub n+ as with the comfort 10-11/7-8 (front/back) running on 18" with no gaps all round ride is f***in comfy :D

oat.iphone
25-03-2009, 09:27 AM
lower 30-40 mm. Just for daily drive ;)

Hey ya, just a noob question, how low is 30-40 mn measure as in finger gap? i'm interesting in lowering my car too, trying to study the N+ vs K'sport [12/7 spring rate nearly same as N+ for $1400]...can anyone here suggest me difference between these two? [sorry if this is called THread HiJacking]

oat.iphone
25-03-2009, 09:36 AM
Hey, i live in Vic.
Any places where i could find these BuddyClub Bad Boys?
Need them for 04 Euro.


look up buddyclub.com.au, go to their dealer, u'll find them, price for our euro[according to the web it say 2099 for CL7 <---- i assume we can use it on our CL9 too, correct me if i'm wrong pls, thankz]

oat.iphone
25-03-2009, 09:42 AM
hey i'm really curious about the measurement of lowering the car, as post in this second pic, look nice, wondering how high is that? pls don't state its in mn, i'm a noob so better off break the detail down quite abit for me, THANKZ

also y would the softest setting be scrap? and if i'm planning to load the car with 19" n lower 1.5 front - 2 rear [fingergap measurement, as i aint know its in Mn], will it be any harsh or scrap?

had read lots of reviews said, 19" might be too big , will make the car goes harsh especially when lower n of course , very costy when replace the tyres [will do with rotate its around =], is it truth of these statement? anyone has experience for this to share? QD i'd see u run on 19" =]

EG5
25-03-2009, 09:54 AM
Hey, i live in Vic.
Any places where i could find these BuddyClub Bad Boys?
Need them for 04 Euro.

PM sent

E_Honda
25-03-2009, 11:17 AM
hey i'm really curious about the measurement of lowering the car, as post in this second pic, look nice, wondering how high is that? pls don't state its in mn, i'm a noob so better off break the detail down quite abit for me, THANKZ

also y would the softest setting be scrap? and if i'm planning to load the car with 19" n lower 1.5 front - 2 rear [fingergap measurement, as i aint know its in Mn], will it be any harsh or scrap?

had read lots of reviews said, 19" might be too big , will make the car goes harsh especially when lower n of course , very costy when replace the tyres [will do with rotate its around =], is it truth of these statement? anyone has experience for this to share? QD i'd see u run on 19" =]

My original 19" wheels were 19x8 +42 offset 235 35 tyres and lowered with 2 finger gap front and rear and the rear would scrape the inside of the guard when going in driveways or bigger than usual bumps. New wheels are 19x8.5 +45 offset 225 35 tyres and no scrape at all. I reckon i could go to 1 finger gap but would probably scrape, but then again i am only running something like -1.4 camber on the rear, the more camber you give it the further away from the inside guard it will be (Unless you dump it on its ass)

So depends on size of the wheels, tyres and how much camber your running when figuring out if it will scrape when lowering the car in my experience. 19" wheels obviously the ride is gonna be not as comfy as stock wheels and probably a bit noisier (depending on tyres, again in my experience) to drive on but its a sacrifice which in return you get better handling and looks.

E_Honda
25-03-2009, 11:20 AM
I've set my BC N+ to 7 clicks front and 9 clicks rear and seems comfortable to drive around on, slightly harder than stock.

oat.iphone
25-03-2009, 11:58 AM
so from my noob understanding is that ur new wheel setting doesnt make ur car scrap with the inner guard, the reason being is that u have more + offset, hence the car goes more flush in right?

doesnt the wider wheel make any problem to this or harshness?

now i'm only saving up for N+ else K'sports shock, thus u think i won't have to be worry about wheel or i can study about them later on when i have enough money to buy a nice 19" set right?

2 finger gaps all round? nice? mind sharing pic of urs, as i said , planning to dump the car 1.5 front n 2 rear, but wouldnt mind to go ur setting too if it doesnt incur much scrapping or harshness

also curious if i lower the car like 2 all round as urs, will the strut bar help in steering performance much? or no such things needed? THANKZ

Crapdaz
25-03-2009, 12:13 PM
so from my noob understanding is that ur new wheel setting doesnt make ur car scrap with the inner guard, the reason being is that u have more + offset, hence the car goes more flush in right?

doesnt the wider wheel make any problem to this or harshness?

now i'm only saving up for N+ else K'sports shock, thus u think i won't have to be worry about wheel or i can study about them later on when i have enough money to buy a nice 19" set right?

2 finger gaps all round? nice? mind sharing pic of urs, as i said , planning to dump the car 1.5 front n 2 rear, but wouldnt mind to go ur setting too if it doesnt incur much scrapping or harshness

also curious if i lower the car like 2 all round as urs, will the strut bar help in steering performance much? or no such things needed? THANKZ

Offset details
http://www.raceandroad.com/images/ns-offsetexplained.jpg
The More offset +50 will sit inside the guards;
The Lower offset +40 will sit flush with the guards/fender.

Yes the wider the wheel the more limitations and possibilities you might need to roll the guards.

Harshness i dependant on the size of the wheels you choose.
The bigger the wheels the lower profile your tyres will need to be;
Lower profile tyres will cause more harshness as there will be less flexibility in the tyres.

19" should be fine just get the right offset with the right size tyres and you'll be fine.
But for a safe size i say 19"x 8 or 8.5 running 225/35 tyres should be safe to clear and no scrub.

If you go 2finger gap with 19" that will still look like a 4WD, i would suggest you get your suspension first then think about wheels and all.

Strut bar helps in steering by stiffening up the tower sections of the chassis, it produces the feel that your car is like a race car.
So it increases understeer.
As you said if you lower the car and put strut tower bar on you will not notice much of a performance diff except that the steering would have tightened up.

E_Honda
25-03-2009, 12:25 PM
Offset details
http://www.raceandroad.com/images/ns-offsetexplained.jpg
The More offset +50 will sit inside the guards;
The Lower offset +40 will sit flush with the guards/fender.

Yes the wider the wheel the more limitations and possibilities you might need to roll the guards.

Harshness i dependant on the size of the wheels you choose.
The bigger the wheels the lower profile your tyres will need to be;
Lower profile tyres will cause more harshness as there will be less flexibility in the tyres.

19" should be fine just get the right offset with the right size tyres and you'll be fine.
But for a safe size i say 19"x 8 or 8.5 running 225/35 tyres should be safe to clear and no scrub.

If you go 2finger gap with 19" that will still look like a 4WD, i would suggest you get your suspension first then think about wheels and all.

Strut bar helps in steering by stiffening up the tower sections of the chassis, it produces the feel that your car is like a race car.
So it increases understeer.
As you said if you lower the car and put strut tower bar on you will not notice much of a performance diff except that the steering would have tightened up.


2 finger gap will still look like a 4WD lol thanks Darren.

Btw Oat.iphone i'm selling my 19" wheels only 1 week old if you are interested, its not the look i'm going for cause i'm too fussy thats why i'm selling already.

Check it out, also pics of my car as requested: http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109612

Crapdaz
25-03-2009, 12:28 PM
Sorry mate, but when i helped .QD lower his car, he was on 2 finger which looked 4WD

E_Honda
25-03-2009, 12:32 PM
yeah its still a bit high i agree, when i finally find the wheels i want i'll do it 0 finger gap all round

Crapdaz
25-03-2009, 12:37 PM
hahah with that you will definitely need to roll unless you get the right offset.

E_Honda
25-03-2009, 12:42 PM
i'm gonna go 18" for the new ones, something with a dish and yeah with the right offset, i love a dish on wheels i think thats why the tenzo's didnt do it for me

mofolo
07-05-2009, 03:02 PM
Sorry mate, but when i helped .QD lower his car, he was on 2 finger which looked 4WD

Im on stock height and 16s and i can fit my fist. :(

God damnit i want new suspension. lol

Crapdaz
07-05-2009, 03:27 PM
Im on stock height and 16s and i can fit my fist. :(

God damnit i want new suspension. lol
then get some.....

mofolo
07-05-2009, 03:32 PM
then get some.....

I've only got $900 thanks to KRudd.

lol.
And that's playing off insurance.

Why can't KRudd hand out free BC's?

Crapdaz
07-05-2009, 03:33 PM
I've only got $900 thanks to KRudd.

lol.
And that's playing off insurance.

Why can't KRudd hand out free BC's?
because what if the person is a girl who has no idea on what a BC is...
what will they do with it. :wave:

mofolo
07-05-2009, 03:42 PM
because what if the person is a girl who has no idea on what a BC is...
what will they do with it. :wave:

It was a joke Crapdaz..
lol.

*sigh* I just want my car touching the floor.

Crapdaz
07-05-2009, 03:44 PM
what's on your mind for sussy? i heard you wanted to get ksport.

It was a joke Crapdaz..
lol.

*sigh* I just want my car touching the floor.
simple cut springs :eek:

mofolo
07-05-2009, 03:49 PM
lol,

I can't afford to look after a bird!

(canary, get it! GET IT?)

aaronng
07-05-2009, 07:25 PM
It was a joke Crapdaz..
lol.

*sigh* I just want my car touching the floor.

Take off the wheels.

tony1234
07-05-2009, 08:55 PM
Take off the wheels.

Hahahahahah.

mofolo
07-05-2009, 10:35 PM
Take off the wheels.

+1 hahaha

oat.iphone
12-05-2009, 01:56 AM
Hi guys, how to adjust the damper setting? i read the tread here say, turn its all the way to the end[anti-clockwise], then turn back[clockwise] to count the click

Does this sound right? I'd adjust mine to F-10, R-7. I still feel it's a little bumpy on the uneven road.

P.S. i've 18" ray vaios 77s wheels, slamp its 2 finger gap front - 1 finger gap rear

any comment?

akina
12-05-2009, 02:58 AM
Even if you turn it to the softest setting, its still a coilover at the end of the day.

The ride comfort will be a lot harsher than stock no matter what.

Crapdaz
12-05-2009, 07:17 AM
buddyclub shouldn't be harsh with 10-7 cause i've been in .QD 06+ euro and it's bloody comfy
.
Are you sure you didn't over turn your damper?

what tyre and tyre pressure you running? how heavy are your wheels?

For example: Running my Gramlights with Dunlop sp sport maxx and CE28N with Toyo T1R both (pumped to 38psi) on my tein monoflex at the same damper setting they have different quality on ride comfort.

aaronng
12-05-2009, 08:30 AM
Hi guys, how to adjust the damper setting? i read the tread here say, turn its all the way to the end[anti-clockwise], then turn back[clockwise] to count the click

Does this sound right? I'd adjust mine to F-10, R-7. I still feel it's a little bumpy on the uneven road.

P.S. i've 18" ray vaios 77s wheels, slamp its 2 finger gap front - 1 finger gap rear

any comment?

It will always be bumpier than stock suspension, or even a shock and spring combo, because coilovers have a high spring rate.

oat.iphone
15-05-2009, 01:06 PM
buddyclub shouldn't be harsh with 10-7 cause i've been in .QD 06+ euro and it's bloody comfy
.
Are you sure you didn't over turn your damper?

what tyre and tyre pressure you running? how heavy are your wheels?

For example: Running my Gramlights with Dunlop sp sport maxx and CE28N with Toyo T1R both (pumped to 38psi) on my tein monoflex at the same damper setting they have different quality on ride comfort.

i'm surely didnt overturn my damper knob, as i was taking real careful for its, about the tyre, i'm running on two yokohama front pairs, two Pirelli rear pairs, tyre pressure is about 35-36 [ is this good pressure for 18x7.5 rays vaios 77s wheels with +43 offset ]

what r the recommended tyre pressure for my types, i never run anythings bigger than 17 ever, this is my first, just got its on for a week only

for the wheels weights i dont know, as i'm searching for its too, it rare to find as this is discontinued wheel model, luckily i got mine

anyone can recommended me good tyre brand as i might need to replace the two front pair as it's wearing out? is kumho any good? can get them for 190 each? or should i get Pirelli to match the two rear pairs?

also 1 of my wheel are buckle due to the shit bumpy - deep pot holes road, anyone know of the cheap place to fix its? if so how much estimately? might get its done when i'm replacing the two front tyres in couple month

thankz guys