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E_Honda
18-02-2009, 11:10 AM
Just want to know if anyone has 19" wheels, lowered the car and rolled the rear guards.

I've got 19" wheels 235 tyres on BC N+ coilovers, -1 camber at the rear and tyre is too far out and inline with guard. Has anyone been in this same prob and rolled the guards??? if so what did you do about the plastic that runs along the inside of the guard?

felixd
18-02-2009, 04:14 PM
u meant to cut the black plastics off just partialy not huge amount then u can rolled in your guard hmm wad offset u running e_honda ? and what r da width of the wheels ? i think u gona want more camber at the rear :D its nice to have abit more hehehe

E_Honda
18-02-2009, 04:26 PM
u meant to cut the black plastics off just partialy not huge amount then u can rolled in your guard hmm wad offset u running e_honda ? and what r da width of the wheels ? i think u gona want more camber at the rear :D its nice to have abit more hehehe

Ok cool so you just cut some of it, I will be running Zinik Z24 wheels offsets 42 front and 35 rear.

I know more camber is noice but i'm keen to keep my tyres for longer than a week or 2 lol

felixd
18-02-2009, 05:03 PM
hahahah guud luck bro i hope that u not running more than 19x8 at the rear with tat offset :D

Crapdaz
18-02-2009, 05:32 PM
35 is too much buddy.

no wonder you scrub with 235

E_Honda
18-02-2009, 06:06 PM
the specs of the ziniks say 19x8 so i'm assuming thats front and back specs, I haven't got the wheels yet, if worse comes to worse and i cant roll the guards i'll have to go 18" wheels.

felixd
18-02-2009, 06:20 PM
look the front 19x8 offset 42 is ok just check again with ur shop not to get the 35 offset for the rear not even 38, just get 42 rear and 45 front job is done no rub !

racerwannabe
18-02-2009, 06:38 PM
the specs of the ziniks say 19x8 so i'm assuming thats front and back specs, I haven't got the wheels yet, if worse comes to worse and i cant roll the guards i'll have to go 18" wheels.

I think going down to 18" wont help coz the overall diameter of the wheel and tyre remains pretty much the same.

Like the others have said 35 offset is way too low...the minimum should be about 42.

felixd
18-02-2009, 08:50 PM
or if u want to put on the offset 35 u ll have to pumped out your rear guard max.

E_Honda
18-02-2009, 08:57 PM
I think going down to 18" wont help coz the overall diameter of the wheel and tyre remains pretty much the same.

Like the others have said 35 offset is way too low...the minimum should be about 42.

Yeah i've just been checking some wheel sites and looks like most of the 18" wheels are 18x8 or 18x8.5 etc so same width.

the offset is the reading from the centre of the wheel to where it gets bolted onto the car isnt it?

E_Honda
18-02-2009, 08:58 PM
or if u want to put on the offset 35 u ll have to pumped out your rear guard max.

Its actually crossed my mind to pump out the rear guards lol

Been browsing the net to see if there are any pics of anyone thats done it on a euro

Type R Positive
19-02-2009, 01:10 AM
the offset is the reading from the centre of the wheel to where it gets bolted onto the car isnt it?Yep. :thumbsup:

E_Honda
19-02-2009, 08:10 AM
or if u want to put on the offset 35 u ll have to pumped out your rear guard max.

I went to a 2nd panel beater this morning for a another opinion and he told me it will probably still hit even if they roll the guards and also no guarantee they wont crack the paint. He said if i go a lower offset on the new wheels it will be a better fit and should fit in between the guard.

So the new Ziniks being 35 offset at the rear is actually a good thing cause it should fit, right? cause i should have plenty of room in the arch to fill. If needed i'll get the rear wheels machined to give me a smaller offset.

felixd
19-02-2009, 01:33 PM
with 19x8 offset 35 u should run lower profile tires and just roll in ur rear guards and that should be able to fix the problem cuz u gona have camber rite ? hehe :D u probably should try -2 degree camber cuz -1 isnt much that should fix ur problem :)

with paint cracking if you dont have the accident with your car there shouldnt be any issues

E_Honda
21-02-2009, 08:03 PM
my new wheels i'm actually going +45 offsets, so going +45 for front and rear should be a better fit and mean i dont need to roll the guards or go crazy with camber. Can't wait to get it all sorted out

felixd
21-02-2009, 08:23 PM
yup thats correct that fitment will fit no mod required :) even u can run 0 camber at the rear should b ok :D

.QD
22-02-2009, 09:06 AM
You sure about that? My offset is +47, wheels are 19x8 and tyres are 225/35/19, I have -3degrees camber.

Crapdaz
23-02-2009, 06:09 AM
anything not in the 50's you'd pretty much need to roll yoru guards in 19".


You sure about that? My offset is +47, wheels are 19x8 and tyres are 225/35/19, I have -3degrees camber.
ROFLMAO!!!

peddars can't do anything for you.... sigh....

who you getting to roll your guards?


yup thats correct that fitment will fit no mod required :) even u can run 0 camber at the rear should b ok :D
rofl 0 camber, no one would ever run 0 camber hahaha...

btw that doesnt sound right, i am running +40 offset and the most he could do with the rear is -1.5deg each side (camber that is) zero finger gap.
You would most likely need to run similiar to .QD -3deg unless you roll your guards, otherwise you will need to run alot of toe in to make it fit better,

.QD - what was your initial and final setting for Camber + Toe angle for front + rear?

eg_08_wa
09-03-2009, 10:31 PM
dont mean to hijack thread, but didnt feel my question warranted another thread.

if 235's fit flush on a rim, one will assume its 8" wide, now if the offset is + 35/+38 region on a 17" rim, will rolling of guards be required.

cheers

Crapdaz
10-03-2009, 06:40 AM
dont mean to hijack thread, but didnt feel my question warranted another thread.

if 235's fit flush on a rim, one will assume its 8" wide, now if the offset is + 35/+38 region on a 17" rim, will rolling of guards be required.

cheers


Approximation: 8" wide = 203.2mm
235mm wide tyres = ((Tyre width-RimWidth)/2) = 15.9mm each side the rubber might/mightn't sit flush.

Flush would be on an 8.5" wheel;
Most jap vs wheels don't come in 8"

How low do you plan on going?

If you want to lower it so it's close to the guards; then yes you will have to roll.
If you want to have 1" or more from the guards to tyre surface; you might not need to.

Also height you stay @ without scrubbing will depend on the suspension you get; e.g Tein coilovers will maintain height and shock bounce more than so called Ksport coilovers which are too soft.

Hope his helps you. :p

eg_08_wa
11-03-2009, 07:02 PM
thx for your reply,

i dont know how low my car will be once its lowered, cuz i bought lowered springs and stock shock. seller said 2.5" so im just going by that...
hopefully i can lower that low, and get these rims...

also just found out the offset is +35. so if i stretch 215's on them, i shouldnt have to roll the guards then yeah??

once again, thx for info.

Crapdaz
12-03-2009, 06:36 AM
hmmmm..... hard choice to make....

+35 is an offset you wouldn't like to play around with unless you are sure or have flexible adjustment suspension.

IMO if i were you i'd get the springs on first and see how it is on the stock sussy, with stock wheels. (Note: I don't like using lowering springs + stock shocks as increase wear on the shocks will cause it to leak and fail eventually; If you replace springs you should do shocks as a combo)

But if you have the wheels with tyres already then chuck them on and see how high they are with the stock sussy, then let us know the gap from the tyre surface + guard.

Btw what springs are they? dont tell me king springs (super low or something). <-- if they are they will be too soft

My 2c.

eg_08_wa
12-03-2009, 09:55 PM
heys crapdaz,

thx for ur replies, they have been very helpful and informative.
the following is a link to the item im very very interested in:
rims (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/4x-Awsome-Rims-with-Tyres-90-Tread-235x45-17-LOOK_W0QQitemZ320347807978QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Ca r_Parts_Accessories?hash=item320347807978&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66&#37;3A2%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318)

as for the suspension, i bought it at a bargin price, with seller saying its jumbo springs on stock shocks lowering the car 2.5"

i guess despite the price, its just not worth it...if one is on a budget?

Crapdaz
13-03-2009, 06:12 AM
heys crapdaz,

thx for ur replies, they have been very helpful and informative.
the following is a link to the item im very very interested in:
rims (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/4x-Awsome-Rims-with-Tyres-90-Tread-235x45-17-LOOK_W0QQitemZ320347807978QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Ca r_Parts_Accessories?hash=item320347807978&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318)

as for the suspension, i bought it at a bargin price, with seller saying its jumbo springs on stock shocks lowering the car 2.5"

i guess despite the price, its just not worth it...if one is on a budget?
No worries.
sorry buddy i can't see it @ work, will check when i get home.

Any ideas on what brand etc? part no.?
How much did you pick it up for springs + wheels? PM me if you want to keep it private.

IMO i'd save up for a set of coilovers or spring+shock combo... otherwise for you get a set of shocks to suit. Everything takes time when your a student or on budget from other financial issues.

Cheers,
Darren