Looking at buying an EG, quick couple of Q's

[Manusdei]

Hi all,

First off, I'm new to these forums, so be easy on me :P

I'm currently thinking of buying a used 94 EG Civic, and have a couple of quick Q's about them in general...

First off, the clutch on the car, was extremely light, and every time i depressed the pedal, there may have been a slight rattle/metal on metal grinding noise (unable to confirm 100% if this was every time, as it had an annoyingly loud exhaust system, which I'll prolly take off...) What is the most likely cause of such a noise? Are these cars prone to having clutch issues? How hard is it to change the clutches in these cars? (Keep in mind i have very little mechanical knowledge when it comes to 1:1 scale cars - I'm into my remote control cars...)

The sunroof on the car wouldnt open by its self, i had to push it up first, is this normal? (never had a sunroof in a car...) would close by itself fine though...

Are Civics a reliable car? I currently drive approx 20kms to work and another 20k back every day, and dont have another reliable way of getting to work, So it is very important the car be reliable...further on that note, what are the common faults on these cars?

Thanks for all the advice in advance, really appreciate it!

[kcokla]

sun roof = no
civics ARE very reliable but it really also depends on the owner
i suggest u check the normals PLUS check to make sure the front and rear safety bar are still there!
GEt UNDER THE CAR to check!
open the hatch, and check where it opens and surounding area for damage(common problem from whether rain and such)

[Lukezen27]

Civics are very reliable when looked after.. and even when not!

Sounds like an aftermarket sunroof?

You can't just push open or close a stock EG5 sunroof by hand alone, you need to twist a screwdriver into a crank slot on the roof directly above the middle of the windscreen. That’s if the powers out or not connected...

Clutch - just rev to 4000RPMs and drop the clutch, see if there’s any slipping.

That noise might be worn brake pads on rotors, check em out and see if there’s metal on metal..

Stock Civic clutches are light anyway but aren’t to costly to fix..

Where do you like?

[Manusdei]

Civics are very reliable when looked after.. and even when not!

Sounds like an aftermarket sunroof?

You can't just push open or close a stock EG5 sunroof by hand alone, you need to twist a screwdriver into a crank slot on the roof directly above the middle of the windscreen. That’s if the powers out or not connected...

Clutch - just rev to 4000RPMs and drop the clutch, see if there’s any slipping.

That noise might be worn brake pads on rotors, check em out and see if there’s metal on metal..

Stock Civic clutches are light anyway but aren’t to costly to fix..

Where do you like?


Hi,

First off, thanks for the replys.

As far as im aware, the sunroof is original, but the glass and seal has just been replaced. The electrics were activly trying to open the roof when i basically gave it a little nudge, but it wouldnt open by its self..

I'll see if i can take it for another test drive, and check out the clutch, and try do that with the clutch.

The noise only seemed to happen when I depress the clutch, not whilst braking, I thought this could indicate possible bearings issue relating to the clutch? - Really have NFI what im talking about, but as its not making the sound whilst braking, I thought that would have ruled out brakes?

I'm assuming that you mean where do I live? If so, I'm up in Darwin - And theres basically bugger all in Darwin thats decent.

Also, the car had a short throw shifter on it, is it easy to take these off, and go back to stock? It feels very strange, to me, which I don't like.

Thanks again all for the replies.

[Lukezen27]

Hi,

First off, thanks for the replys.

As far as im aware, the sunroof is original, but the glass and seal has just been replaced. The electrics were activly trying to open the roof when i basically gave it a little nudge, but it wouldnt open by its self..

I'll see if i can take it for another test drive, and check out the clutch, and try do that with the clutch.

The noise only seemed to happen when I depress the clutch, not whilst braking, I thought this could indicate possible bearings issue relating to the clutch? - Really have NFI what im talking about, but as its not making the sound whilst braking, I thought that would have ruled out brakes?

I'm assuming that you mean where do I live? If so, I'm up in Darwin - And theres basically bugger all in Darwin thats decent.

Also, the car had a short throw shifter on it, is it easy to take these off, and go back to stock? It feels very strange, to me, which I don't like.

Thanks again all for the replies.

Sounds like you don't have to many options but still i think you should have a mech check her out for you mate..

Safest and best way if you don't know what your looking for IMO

[aimre]

Clutch - just rev to 4000RPMs and drop the clutch, see if there’s any slipping.




I would punch you in the head if u did that to a car i was selling. Like really.

A better/nicer way is to gun it in 5th

[Lukezen27]

I would punch you in the head if u did that to a car i was selling. Like really.

A better/nicer way is to gun it in 5th

lol Alex

Sounds to me like this guys trying to rip poor Manusdei off

Knows he wants a Civic and with few options available to him in Darwin hes trying one on....

Hence he should get a qualified mechanic to check it over!

If its loud enough to hear over the fully sick exhaust system its a worry for sure IMO

[dvsx]

My sunroof had a bit of an issue getting up as well, like u mentioned the motor is running but it needed a little nudge to get it up. i just gave it a bit of WD40 and its all smooth now :cool:

[Henessaayyy]

If you want reliable, get a Toyota :P

[Manusdei]

Sorry, if i wanted some thing like a toyota, I would go down to the dump, get and old fridge, and put some wheel on it. I want some thing sportyish, or at least looks sporty...

Considering southern options, but theyll cost just as much as this one up here once i add transport on top. which imo, is too much to pay for a 96 model vehicle.

Thanks for all the replys guys.

I told the guy im not instrested, specially at the price hes asking (6.5k), main rason being, that is only got about 2 months rego left, and will have to be inspected to be able to extend the rego, which with a pod filter, isnt going to pass.

[SiR CRX]

You may want to consider buying from another state and getting it transported over. I have done this before and while the transport cost me $600-$800 from Melbourne to Perth I had a much larger range of cars to choose from and they were cheaper to boot. Just make sure you trust the seller 100% before sending any money. It is hard but you can arrange to get the vehicle mechanically inspected and if the buyer is dinkum he will allow it. The company will then fax or email the report to you and you can make a decision. Like I said, be 100% sure the seller isn't going to rip you off and you will be fine. If you want any help let me know.

[jdmEG5]

What honda EG is this? GL or VTi?? push up sunroof sounds bit old skool for an EG lol..

[Manusdei]

Yeah, I've bought from interstate before, got the inspection and every thing, but was still disappointed with what i got, sure it was a neat car, but a few small things that the mechanic that looked at it said was Ok, turned out to be not quite so good...

Not sure exactly what model it was. the sunroof was electric, but it wouldn't open by its self, with a little nudge up it would open by its self.

Now I'm looking at another car, on these forums. Only prob is it was around 210k kms on it, how do these cars go with such high KMs?

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

If you want reliable, get a Toyota :P

IMO 2 words follow this.

1)BULL 2)SHIT

or atleast in my case.

[SiR CRX]

Yeah, I've bought from interstate before, got the inspection and every thing, but was still disappointed with what i got, sure it was a neat car, but a few small things that the mechanic that looked at it said was Ok, turned out to be not quite so good...

Not sure exactly what model it was. the sunroof was electric, but it wouldn't open by its self, with a little nudge up it would open by its self.

Now I'm looking at another car, on these forums. Only prob is it was around 210k kms on it, how do these cars go with such high KMs?

Civic's and Honda's in general are extremely reliable. 200ish kms does not seem to bother most engines as long as they are well looked after. You have to look at other thing's though such as CV's, gearbox, clutch, electrics, brakes etc. All these thing's will most likely wear faster than the engine.

[Manusdei]

Thanks for the reply.

I've sent the owner a PM, and awaiting response in regard to tyres / service...But i still much prefer the look of an EG over an EK...hmmm...

[Lukezen27]

Thanks for the reply.

I've sent the owner a PM, and awaiting response in regard to tyres / service...But i still much prefer the look of an EG over an EK...hmmm...

Coze ya do..............

EG's rock :thumbsup:

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

Ever watch the Drew Carey show and how they sing "Cleveland Rocks!, Cleveland Rocks!"

Well lets now replace that with "EG's ROCK!!! ,EG's ROCK!!!!"

[Manusdei]

I've just realised that the EG i was loking at up here, has a VTEC engine in it...I was under the impression none of the EG's came with a VTEC engine out of the factory here?

Heres the link for the car if any ones intrested...
http://www.boostcruising.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=382569

[JDM.Power]

I've just realised that the EG i was loking at up here, has a VTEC engine in it...I was under the impression none of the EG's came with a VTEC engine out of the factory here?

Heres the link for the car if any ones intrested...
http://www.boostcruising.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=382569

yes Honda Civic Vti are the 1.6ltr Single Cam + vtec
from 1993 - 1995

and the other top of the line Civic that came into australia is the
Honda Civic Si, 1.6ltr Twin Cam non Vtec
both cars are similar
both have four disc brakes :thumbsup:

[Manusdei]

Ah ok. Thanks for the info.

Are these models hard to find? If they are, i might just talk to this guy a bit more...

Cheers.

[JDM.Power]

Ah ok. Thanks for the info.

Are these models hard to find? If they are, i might just talk to this guy a bit more...

Cheers.

ahh not really, you just have to be patience an you will find one for cheap.
and depends what state you in also, most of these civics will be found in nsw,melb,qld.
there are cheaper ones around. just have to search.

[Manusdei]

Ah ok, well i talked him down a bit already, and he says the lowest hell go is 5.5k, is this a resonable amount?

[Lukezen27]

Ah ok, well i talked him down a bit already, and he says the lowest hell go is 5.5k, is this a resonable amount?

What modle is it?

Engine number pleaes

[Manusdei]

What modle is it?

Engine number pleaes

Sorry, i dont have the engine number. If you want you can contact the seller directly.. I put in a link earlier on boost cruising for the car.

Its an EG, by the looks / sounds of it its a VTI?

[jdm_b16a]

The Honda Civic Vti was the top of the range Civic in those days. I have the EH (4 Door) and I've had it since new. A very reliable car. This example looks pretty good on first impressions, and anyone who installs something like a DVD player has obviously invested some money in their car.

Check the driver's seat for wear (like most seats) on the seat bolster and right hand side.

Check the quality of the custom paint job. Was it done to fix a smash? or panel repair? or just to change the colour?

Check the car's suspension for excessive lowering which will manifest itself in inner tyre wear.

Check for steering alignment/off centre steering wheel?

Check the engine bay for leaks under the sump and gearbox. Also radiator hoses - are they in good condition?

Check the driveshaft boots for splits. Ditto power steering?

Is the exhaust a custom job? Cat back or just axle back?

Can you replace the pod with original parts?

Has it had a timing belt change? When?

Check the boot and wheel well for signs of water leaks (usually around the boot rubber lining). Also check the rear lights for functionality as well as headlights and indicators.

Check carpet for wear (as an indication of age/kms travelled).

These cars are pretty much bulletproof but can be abused. Clutch is usually easy under foot and gearchanges should be smooth, even going back from higher gears under high RPM. The SOHC VTEC is a good little powerplant but listen for rattles, and drive it in reverse to check for unusual noises (high pitched whine). Has engine oil/gearbox oil been changed regularly?

Hope this helps you out,

Peter

[Manusdei]

Thanks very much for the reply JDM_b16a.

I'll have to organise another time to inspect the vehicle, to check all the things youve mentioned.

The main thing im worried about, is that the previous owner has flogged the car a bit, as the current owner said that all the mods were done by the previous owner, and that he's looked after it etc. but with mods such as a short shift kit, and exhaust and intake mods, I'm very sceptical about its previous life...

[Lukezen27]

Sorry, i dont have the engine number. If you want you can contact the seller directly.. I put in a link earlier on boost cruising for the car.

Its an EG, by the looks / sounds of it its a VTI?

D16Y1 for a VTi