importing hondas

[rmalov]

does any1 know why it is illegal to import hondas to australia except for Honda Beat (PP1 model 1990 to 1995) and Honda Civic Type R (EP3 October 2001+).

i wanted to import a jap spec dc2r here but its not SEVS Approved.

[hotdc2]

i think the civc type r's 2001+ is because it's not 10 years old not entirely sure about the integras but pretty sure they have to be 10yrs old to be imported..

[rmalov]

no the Honda Beat (PP1 model 1990 to 1995) and Honda Civic Type R (EP3 October 2001+) can be imported they meet aus standards. any other honda is illegal, but i have seen a few jap spec around. oh and that rule isnt 10 years its the 15 year rule

[Philip Lee]

you can't get a DC2R imported thru SEVS becos its been sold officially here.

only way to import one is to go overseas, buy one and use the car for at least 12 months.

and the old 15 years rule is no more. u can only import pre 1988 cars via that.

[rmalov]

is it possibe to import it for racing use. then pull a lebo scamm and register it for road use lol, im not goin to japan and living there for 12 months

[tseesinngwailo]

is it possibe to import it for racing use. then pull a lebo scamm and register it for road use lol, im not goin to japan and living there for 12 months
Apart from being a rather silly and possibly racist comment, you would be far better off looking for one already here, there have been some quite cheap ones getting around, or just get an AUS one and convert the front, by the time you import and add all the costs up, it wont be much different, add to the fact that you cant import unless its a personal import (live OS with it for 12 months)

And besides, try and cheat on the process and get caught out will cost a lot too, they could make you send it back to where it came from...

To import to race you will need proof of a CAMS license and racing history, still wont mean it can be registered either.

Your other option is to get somewhere like SSS Automotive to import a front and rear cut, then swap it all over into an AUS GSI, you will basically end up with what you are after.

That said, time and effort can be way expensive.
Good luck

[rmalov]

i cnt find a good dc2r in melbourne there all either repaired write offs or their yellow

[45SET]

i cnt find a good dc2r in melbourne there all either repaired write offs or their yellow

So let me get this right... you are willing to import a car from another country (Japan)... but you aren't willing to go to Adel, Syd or Bris to get one.

As has been discussed OVER AND OVER AGAIN... the JDM & AUDM post 98 DC2R is almost the same (Bar the front end and a few other things you change when you mod the car).

[rmalov]

yeh mate u got that rite, i dont have to drive it back from another state, easier to pikup from the docks

[45SET]

yeh mate u got that rite, i dont have to drive it back from another state, easier to pikup from the docks

Ever heard of shipping the car on the back of a truck?

Sounds easier... quicker... and cheaper then shipping it from Japan.

[mocchi]

Ever heard of shipping the car on the back of a truck?

Sounds easier... quicker... and cheaper then shipping it from Japan.

pwned.

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

and the old 15 years rule is no more. u can only import pre 1988 cars via that.

...i love this rule :)

[Bludger]

i cnt find a good dc2r in melbourne there all either repaired write offs or their yellowIgot a mint, mint, mint one 70k on the clock.

red,

you willing to pay what its worth or just another talker?

[rmalov]

sorry mate dont want red.. if it was white or black id come have a look at it

[jdm_b16a]

Does anyone know why it is illegal to import hondas to Australia except for Honda Beat (PP1 model 1990 to 1995) and Honda Civic Type R (EP3 October 2001+). I wanted to import a jap spec dc2r here but its not SEVS Approved.

Firstly, it is not illegal. That is an incorrect word.

To appease the car manufacturers/importers way back when this whole importing cars from Japan first started (and it first took off in NZ where local manufacturers complained the small local car market was being flooded with imports) it was decided that any car currently being sold in showrooms could not be parallel imported. However, any other model, or 'special' model could be. So, because the Beat is not sold locally and the Type R is a 'special' model it is OK to import them. You could import the others but they would be impounded at the docks.

You can buy the car of your choice in Japan and qualify for locally residency by living there for 12 months and then bringing it back to Australia with you.

Alternatively, you can import a car purely for racing but you have to have a valid CAMS licence and a history of competitive motorsport in Australia. You have to show this on your application before you begin the import process. Then you will be issued with an Approval To Import document which has to be handed to the importer. When I did it it cost $50. Again, technically you can't just go and buy the cheapest CAMS licence and then import a car the next day. The authorities want to see where you've raced, in what cars and for how long.

Furthermore the car you are importing has to have a racing history. That is, it has to have FIA approval - it may have been raced in Europe or the US for example. Civics and Integras are good examples. You just can't import any car and claim it is for racing.

Also you can't convert THAT shell for street use (not legally anyway) but you can transfer parts to a locally delivered car eg. interior, driveline, engine etc. People do it all the time.

This is why you are not able to bring cars in COMPLETE purely for parts - all parts come as separate parts, halfcuts, nosecuts whatever. You can't disassemble a car here is what I'm saying (unless it was imported as a complete car and then say written off in an accident).

In case people might think I'm full of $h!7, the car in my avatar was imported from Japan under a CAMS licence (which I held for over 15 years) in 2005 so I know what I'm talking about (at least in this instance). It was a road registered EG6 with a B16A which I converted into what you see there. I didn't have to meet ADR requirements so all the aftermarket parts that were on it didn't have to be replaced for compliance and registration - exhaust, wheels, etc.

There is a list of what cars can be imported (http://rvcs-prodweb.dot.gov.au/sevs/sevsindex.htm) available

Hope this clears some things up for people.

Peter

[rmalov]

hey mate, if u cant import cars that have alredy been sold here in australia, why can you import skylines, s15s, supras, s13s and other shit like that??

[45SET]

hey mate, if u cant import cars that have alredy been sold here in australia, why can you import skylines, s15s, supras, s13s and other shit like that??

Skylines, Supras and S13's were never sold here new.

S15's are a Nissan Australia delivered car. Except for the Au-tech... that would come under the "special model".

[Shraka]

Skylines, Supras and S13's were never sold here new.

S15's are a Nissan Australia delivered car. Except for the Au-tech... that would come under the "special model".

To clarify, The MA45, MA61 and MA70 Supra were sold here, but you can import them as they were all made pre 1989. The JZA70 Supra and JZA80 Supra (the one everyone assumes you're talking about when you say Supra) were both never sold here. Every one you see her started it's life in another country (usually Japan).

The last Skyline to be sold here was the R31. Every R32, R33, R34 and R35 that you see on the streets have all been imported (not that I imagine many of us have seen R35s on the street).

The S12 Gazelle was sold here if I remember correctly, but the S13 never was. Nissan brought the S chassis back to Australia with the S14.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't you import 'gap' cars. By this I mean car models that were sold here, but of a year model that WASN'T sold here. For example, wasn't the Type R built in Japan from 1995? But we only got it in 97/98 or so? I think this means you should be able to get compliance plates for 1995, 1996, and possibly some 1997 model Integra Type Rs.

Still, my advice would be to get a local model. Cheaper insurance, more trustworthy history, you can check it out before you buy it, less damage from shipping etc. Honda Australia was kind enough to actually bring proper sports cars out here, unlike a lot of other car manufacturers who gave us heavily de-tuned models, or didn't release them here at all! Take advantage of it.

I'd really like to buy a car in another state, fly there and drive it back home. It'd be an awesome road trip.

[jdm_b16a]

To clarify, The MA45, MA61 and MA70 Supra were sold here, but you can import them as they were all made pre 1989. The JZA70 Supra and JZA80 Supra (the one everyone assumes you're talking about when you say Supra) were both never sold here. Every one you see her started it's life in another country (usually Japan).

The last Skyline to be sold here was the R31. Every R32, R33, R34 and R35 that you see on the streets have all been imported (not that I imagine many of us have seen R35s on the street).

The S12 Gazelle was sold here if I remember correctly, but the S13 never was. Nissan brought the S chassis back to Australia with the S14.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't you import 'gap' cars. By this I mean car models that were sold here, but of a year model that WASN'T sold here. For example, wasn't the Type R built in Japan from 1995? But we only got it in 97/98 or so? I think this means you should be able to get compliance plates for 1995, 1996, and possibly some 1997 model Integra Type Rs.

Still, my advice would be to get a local model. Cheaper insurance, more trustworthy history, you can check it out before you buy it, less damage from shipping etc. Honda Australia was kind enough to actually bring proper sports cars out here, unlike a lot of other car manufacturers who gave us heavily de-tuned models, or didn't release them here at all! Take advantage of it.

I'd really like to buy a car in another state, fly there and drive it back home. It'd be an awesome road trip.

Thanks dude. I think you answered that question pretty comprehensively.

"Gap" cars - I think the answer is no but I might be wrong. I think the authorities look at specific models not models AND years of that model. I don't think you can comply those Integras.

To get a car on the import list an entity, whether it be an individual, workshop or company, has to submit a request and justification for why that model should be included. Such was the case for the twin turbo Aristo, which is basically a 4 door Supra. The authorities examine the request and then either give approval or say no. I imported a 1996 Aristo about a year ago (when the JYen was really good $$-wise). In other words, the car has to be an Enthusiast's vehicle, something special that you can't get here, that's what SEVS is.

Here's some info I found that you might find useful:

"SEVS allows many various models to be imported however extremely strict guidelines are imposed regarding the compliance of these vehicles.

Ruling: A vehicle is eligible under the SEVS if it has never been sold in Australia in full volume and complies with 2 of the 4 following criteria.


Appearance: The vehicle must be different and unique in its appearance.
Unusual Design Features: The vehicle must have an unusual design feature.
Performance: The vehicle must meet a minimum power to weight ratio.
Specialist Publications: The vehicle is advertised regularly in a specialist publication. "


Some of the popular examples of currently compliable SEVS vehicles are:

Nissan R33 Skyline Coupes and Sedans 1993-1998
Nissan R34 Skyline Coupes and Sedans 1998-current
Toyota Supra 1993-1998
Toyota Soarer 1991-1998
Mitsubishi Delica 1994-
Toyota Chaser JZX100
Nissan Stagea Wagon
Nissan S13
Mitsubishi Evo VII

Peter

[rmalov]

anyway i need a dc2r any1 selling 1 or know of any1 selling 1, black or white only and preferably under 120,000kms

[45SET]

Thanks dude. I think you answered that question pretty comprehensively.

"Gap" cars - I think the answer is no but I might be wrong. I think the authorities look at specific models not models AND years of that model. I don't think you can comply those Integras.

To get a car on the import list an entity, whether it be an individual, workshop or company, has to submit a request and justification for why that model should be included. Such was the case for the twin turbo Aristo, which is basically a 4 door Supra. The authorities examine the request and then either give approval or say no. I imported a 1996 Aristo about a year ago (when the JYen was really good $$-wise). In other words, the car has to be an Enthusiast's vehicle, something special that you can't get here, that's what SEVS is.

Here's some info I found that you might find useful:

"SEVS allows many various models to be imported however extremely strict guidelines are imposed regarding the compliance of these vehicles.

Ruling: A vehicle is eligible under the SEVS if it has never been sold in Australia in full volume and complies with 2 of the 4 following criteria.


Appearance: The vehicle must be different and unique in its appearance.
Unusual Design Features: The vehicle must have an unusual design feature.
Performance: The vehicle must meet a minimum power to weight ratio.
Specialist Publications: The vehicle is advertised regularly in a specialist publication. "


Some of the popular examples of currently compliable SEVS vehicles are:

Nissan R33 Skyline Coupes and Sedans 1993-1998
Nissan R34 Skyline Coupes and Sedans 1998-current
Toyota Supra 1993-1998
Toyota Soarer 1991-1998
Mitsubishi Delica 1994-
Toyota Chaser JZX100
Nissan Stagea Wagon
Nissan S13
Mitsubishi Evo VII

Peter


Do you know if you can give someone 2 rep points in the same thread?

Good work :thumbsup: