Need some help on springs and shocks...

[will_pop]

:wave: hi guys...

i just got my Kings superlows installed with some bilstein shocks....

now the ride is just tooo stiff... and i can feel every little curve on the road... and sydney roads make the car feel like undriveable... even those connection lines (those horrizontal lines that connects the bridge togather.) on harbour bridge give my car a big shake (north bound)

now ... i wanna kno if it's the spring being too stiff or is it the shocks....

if i want it feel more like a stock ride.. shall i chage the springs or the shocks... anyone got any ideas if 50mm lowered cars actually rides ok...

and what will happen if i change the spring seats' height on the shocks..

thx guys.... wanna sort this out... or is it just becoz lowered car ment to have a harsh ride... :(

[Dominik]

Sports shocks will make the ride harsh, but stiff springs will also do that. The thing is that the springs shouldnt be stiffer than the shocks (this is what i have, and it makes the car REALLY bouncy - i feel the bump for 2 seconds after i have gone over it :))

My guess is that you have matched springs/shocks. Its bumpy, but there isnt much that can be done other than replacing the suspension.

It is something that bugs me too. I love the look, but hate the feel of a lowered car. Thats why i am already looking forward to my next car - a Toyota Celsior or Crown Majesta. Factory air suspension means you can lower the car but it keeps an extremely smooth ride (just be careful on the big bumps)

[will_pop]

thx dominik....
those 2 cars u mentioned are imports rite??

the car is on my fathers name ... so i can't sell it ... >< ...

no change cars... >< ... the lexus SC400 got air suspensions too rite (i mean some model)

so hows ur car look now ... show me some pics ..

EDITED>>>...
oops found teh pic thread in gallary ... ^^....

[Dominik]

Hehe i just posted about it here:
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10809&page=1&pp=12

The pics seem to show the front as being alot higher than the rear... I think it is just the angle or something - it doesnt look like that in real life!

[Dominik]

Oh, and the Celsior is the Japanese equivelant of the LS400, and the Crown Majesta is similar (same engine). I'd import a VIP version of either of these in a heartbeat... Just need to save a little more

BTW, if its your dad's car, give it back and buy your own :) Then you can choose whatever you want, and do whatever you want to it!

[DCLXVI]

over-stiff spring is bouncy at moderate speeds, and will make your car feel as though its flyin off the road over bumps at speed. its not only affect performance driving but can be hazardous as well, imagine your ride struggling to stay on the road.

a good setup is firm, not harsh, and shld have good control through bumps and dips during fast corners.

[will_pop]

i like LS400.. dad used to have taht ...
hum ... i m the only family member here ... so no one to give the car to ... i m doin uni now....

i really cant describe the feeling of the ride correctly ...

it's not bouncy (in some bumpy roads.. 1 rebound the max..)...
the problem is its sticking too tight on the road so i can feel all the uneven surface of the road...

and when it comes to port holes and those aging bridge connection lines, the springs will be fully compressed and hit the bump stop .. and make the car shakes badly...

is this normal... maybe i m being too picky

[crazycivic]

change the shock. i got the same spring as urs but stock shock and it's fine except it make some kind of noise
anyone know what kind of noise (shock?)
please help

[will_pop]

yeh my friend told me the shocks were too stiff.. that make my ride a bit funny...

but i dun think i m gonna get back in to stock shocks.... coz going is gonna cost me another $140

and then when stock blown ... another $140 to get the bilstein back in lolz

[DCLXVI]

the noise could be from the bushing. and regardin the stock shocks, they r not too stiff.. its just tat shocks will wear out, meaning the movement of the shocks will not be as smooth as before.

[will_pop]

i m on bilstein shocks already ... just that the ride are abit too harsh... so like my car goes according to the surface of the road.. the road goes up my car goes up ... and due to sydney's crappy roads... my car goes up and down in a very high frequence.. lolz...

[Dominik]

I think the only solution is to lower it further :)

This wont help your problem with bumps (infact it will probably make it worse), but it will look ultra cool!

So when you are going over the bumps, and your spleen is being pounded into a pulp, you can be happy in the knowlege that at least the car looks HOT. Thats what i tell myself anyway (yes, people have told me i am sad and delusional)

[will_pop]

haha dominik... yeh i was trying to get it lower... like putting more ring slots on the shock body .. so i can put the spring seat lower and so the car will seat lower...

but they cost money.. and i dun have the tools to DIY ... asking ppl to remove shocks and put them back on 2 occasions cost like a few hundreds.. and i can get HID for taht money lolz....

maybe next yr.... off to china for 3 month ... during the uni holiday .. so no point doin too much now .. keke

[Civic Si]

Will,

EiBach springs are good,as I've sold many kits with no complaints.

EiBachs are designed to lower ur car without compromising the ride comfort! :thumbsup: :D

[JohnnyBoy]

dont forget your shocks & springs will give after time.. after about 5000kms or so, it'll be noticeably softer and more easy going..

i've had my eibach & bilstein setup for approx 15000 kms now.. it was MUCH stiffer at the beginning..

[joyride]

bump steer? RCA?

[saboteur]

I had this same problem when I first put in the Konis. I thought it was my bushes but it turns out I had next to no bump travel at all, so I cranked it up another 20mm and she's all sweet now, when damper is set to full soft it's like stock.

[will_pop]

thanks guys and Hanson....

yeh ... i will c if it will become abit softer after a while... i wanna know how much is the eibach ... only want to get the front tho.. coz the back is doin okay ....

and still need to thank hanson for getting my bilstein shocks ... ^^