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Slugoid
23-10-2004, 04:48 PM
Simple question, what's the size of the stock rims for the Euro??

I think they are 16X6.5, but no idea about offset and spacing. The reason I ask is that I'm looking for a set a new rims for the Euro, and want to know what size rims will fit it. I'm after a 17" rim, and I think 17X7 will fit, it not sure.

Type R Positive
23-10-2004, 05:08 PM
They are 16" x 6.5" (I'm pretty sure) with a +45 offset.

17" x 7" will fit no worries, you could put 20's on if you wanted! The American market gets 17" x 7" standard.

Why not go 18's??? 17's are too small!!! 18's would look much better and you still have a 40 profile tyre, not rubber bands. They are not that much more expensive for a full set of mags and tyres.

Slugoid
23-10-2004, 05:15 PM
The rims aren't just for looks, and I don't want to compromise performance with 18's.

Type R Positive
23-10-2004, 05:18 PM
get volk's then! 18's still lighter than stocko's. They will cost you ~$1000 per rim though!

aznsiko
23-10-2004, 05:23 PM
try ysearch it up on net..

Slugoid
23-10-2004, 05:25 PM
get volk's then! 18's still lighter than stocko's. They will cost you ~$1000 per rim though!

I have my eyes set on the CN28's...they are soo nice. Pity I don't have enough money for them :(

I'm setting my budget to around $1.5-2K. Don't mind 2nd hand stuff either, as long as it's not damaged.

Type R Positive
23-10-2004, 05:35 PM
I have my eyes set on the CN28's...they are soo nice. Pity I don't have enough money for them :(

I'm setting my budget to around $1.5-2K. Don't mind 2nd hand stuff either, as long as it's not damaged. This is what I like, got a quote for $2,000 delivered to my door for a set of 4 18" mags with tyres. Just waiting for spare cash.

http://www.ozzytyres.com.au/wheels_more.php?mag_images_id=104&mag_id=31

Try tempe tyres as well, they are really cheap as well.

yfin
24-10-2004, 03:28 PM
They are 16" x 6.5" (I'm pretty sure) with a +45 offset.

17" x 7" will fit no worries, you could put 20's on if you wanted! The American market gets 17" x 7" standard.

Why not go 18's??? 17's are too small!!! 18's would look much better and you still have a 40 profile tyre, not rubber bands. They are not that much more expensive for a full set of mags and tyres.

Almost right mate, they are +55 offset.

I have 17 x 7.5 - they fit perfectly- +48 offset. I wouldn't go less than +42 offset

Type R Positive
24-10-2004, 03:38 PM
cool, thanks!

jtboo
26-10-2004, 03:26 PM
Just to confirm that yfin is correct. The offset on the Euros are +55. Managed to get a 17 x 7.5 with + 55 offset too!!

Slugoid
30-10-2004, 11:51 PM
I just found a set of DC2R rims for sale...just wondering if they will fit the Euro.

baboo
31-10-2004, 11:18 AM
AUSDM or JDM DC2R rims?

if AUSDM it's 15", it won't fit the Euro cos of huge ass front brake caliper that Euro's got.

Slugoid
31-10-2004, 03:16 PM
Yeah, they're AUSDM ones...damn.

I though AUSDM and JDM DC2R have the same rims...well they sure looks the same.

yfin
31-10-2004, 07:00 PM
I just found a set of DC2R rims for sale...just wondering if they will fit the Euro.

15" is a little small for the Euro. The DC5 is 16" and fits - I have seen the DC5R rims on a Euro - they look much better than the stock Euro rims.

baboo
01-11-2004, 09:32 AM
yeah, I'm thinking of getting a set of 16" DC5 rims for track use.

The offset of the DC5R rim is +45. perfect fit.

euro77
08-11-2004, 09:32 PM
Just thought I would add some info about the PCD of the OEM wheels, it is 5 x 114.3

Slugoid
09-11-2004, 01:39 AM
Thanx for that. Took me a while to find that out, cos I somehow figured that the CL7 (Accord Euro-R) also has the same PCD as well.

Lacrosse19
13-01-2005, 10:07 PM
Just to add my 2 bobs worth, the original tyres and rims are
205/55/16 overall tyre diameter of 631.9mm 5 stud 114.3mm pcd.
offset of +55mm . original rims 16x6.5JJ ET55 (ET = +ve.)
I have put on 18" x7.5" rims G-Max E920 10 spoke +42mm offset machined lip high silver Rims on mine (see Gallery)
Fitted with a 225/40/18 overall tire diameter of 637.2mm
Therefore an increase of only 5.3mm ,not much to worry about .
The 225's at 42mm +ve offset means the tyre stick out 23mm more than original.
Looks good next to the slightly flarred guards of the Euro.
Next I will have to lower the car 22 to 35mm.
225/40/18 tyres are expensive comparred to the run of the mill massed produced low profile tyres.
Some Euros install 235/40/18's cheaper tyre to get and a better range of manufactures giving specials for that size .
235/40 is an overall tyre diameter of 645.2mm
An increase of 13.3mm ,can look too large ,especailly if you don't lower the car. But not a huge increase and is within leagal limit of increased diameter above standard issue.
The 235 wide tire at 42mm offset is also just legal and is almost flush with the guards.
The 235 can go on 7.5" rims but have seen them on 18x8's .
More selection of 18x8" with 5 studs at 114.3mm pcd than the 18x7.5's.
The 235/40/18 tyre is a popular Holden (Apollo) AU Falcon tyre on some models.
The 5 stud 114.3 42 offset 17 and 18 rims are the same as AU Falcons so once again an easy rim to get on the secondhand market, that's if you like what is available for Falcon on a Honda (not!!)
When my 225's wear out I will probably put on 235/40's ,slightly larger in dia ,but will get a slightly softer ride back and still look great and a better track.

Lacrosse19
13-01-2005, 10:15 PM
This is what I like, got a quote for $2,000 delivered to my door for a set of 4 18" mags with tyres. Just waiting for spare cash.

http://www.ozzytyres.com.au/wheels_more.php?mag_images_id=104&mag_id=31

Try tempe tyres as well, they are really cheap as well.


Great looking wheels on the Ozzy tyre site you quoted almost the exact same as GieMax E920's 10 spoke high sliver etc.
I picked up the 18x7.5 GieMax's for $396 each pick up some good secondhand 225/40/18 " tyres for $100 ea & fitted and balanced and new chrome nuts and fitting tool for $1986
Another good rim is the Concept 9's 18x7.5 9 spoke shadow chrome ,not sure what the make or supplier is. "Tyre Power" have them.

Type R Positive
14-01-2005, 11:41 AM
Great looking wheels on the Ozzy tyre site you quoted almost the exact same as GieMax E920's 10 spoke high sliver etc.
I picked up the 18x7.5 GieMax's for $396 each pick up some good secondhand 225/40/18 " tyres for $100 ea & fitted and balanced and new chrome nuts and fitting tool for $1986
Another good rim is the Concept 9's 18x7.5 9 spoke shadow chrome ,not sure what the make or supplier is. "Tyre Power" have them.
I haven't got the mags yet, I might have to sell the Euro.........

I don't mind ozzytyres, they seem to have good deals. The mags that I wanted cost about $1300 per rim. Volk racing forged mag progressive spoke's
http://www.wheelspecs.com/specs/wheelmodels/2238

yfin
14-01-2005, 01:12 PM
Just to add my 2 bobs worth, the original tyres and rims are
205/55/16 overall tyre diameter of 631.9mm 5 stud 114.3mm pcd.
offset of +50mm (I am led to believe) will measure one tomorrow.

I have put on 18" x7.5" rims G-Max E920 10 spoke +42mm offset machined lip high silver Rims on mine (see Gallery)
Fitted with a 225/40/18 overall tire diameter of 637.2mm
Therefore an increase of only 5.3mm ,not much to worry about .
The 225's at 42mm +ve offset means the tyre stick out 18mm more than original.
Looks good next to the slightly flarred guards of the Euro.
Next I will have to lower the car 22 to 35mm.
225/40/18 tyres are expensive comparred to the run of the mill massed produced low profile tyres.
Some Euros install 235/40/18's cheaper tyre to get and a better range of manufactures giving specials for that size .
235/40 is an overall tyre diameter of 645.2mm
An increase of 13.3mm ,can look too large ,especailly if you don't lower the car. But not a huge increase and is within leagal limit of increased diameter above standard issue.
The 235 wide tire at 42mm offset is also just legal and is almost flush with the guards.
The 235 can go on 7.5" rims but have seen them on 18x8's .
More selection of 18x8" with 5 studs at 114.3mm pcd than the 18x7.5's.
The 235/40/18 tyre is a popular Holden (Apollo) AU Falcon tyre on some models.
The 5 stud 114.3 42 offset 17 and 18 rims are the same as AU Falcons so once again an easy rim to get on the secondhand market, that's if you like what is available for Falcon on a Honda (not!!)
When my 225's wear out I will probably put on 235/40's ,slightly larger in dia ,but will get a slightly softer ride back and still look great and a better track.Stock offset is +55.Be careful changing the offset greatly - I am told it puts a lot of strain on wheel bearings and suspension components. Changing the offset so greatly can also impact handling.

Lacrosse19
14-01-2005, 03:45 PM
Simple question, what's the size of the stock rims for the Euro??

I think they are 16X6.5, but no idea about offset and spacing. The reason I ask is that I'm looking for a set a new rims for the Euro, and want to know what size rims will fit it. I'm after a 17" rim, and I think 17X7 will fit, it not sure.


They are 16"x 6 1/2" JJ 55+ve offset :)

albii
14-01-2005, 11:11 PM
Great looking wheels on the Ozzy tyre site you quoted almost the exact same as GieMax E920's 10 spoke high sliver etc.
I picked up the 18x7.5 GieMax's for $396 each pick up some good secondhand 225/40/18 " tyres for $100 ea & fitted and balanced and new chrome nuts and fitting tool for $1986
Another good rim is the Concept 9's 18x7.5 9 spoke shadow chrome ,not sure what the make or supplier is. "Tyre Power" have them.

man thats expensive....i got 18x8 bsa 291 shadow chrome with 225/40/18 tyres all new for $1550

CRZYMF
15-01-2005, 08:19 AM
Yfin is right about changing the offset greatly as it will cause undue stress on your bearings and suspension components.

Remember, when we're talking about offsets, we're talking about how far in/out from the centre of the wheel the mounting point is.

If you're going for a wider wheel, a +55 offset on a 7.5in wide wheel will have a wider paw print than a +55 offset on a 6.5in wide wheel. The outer edge of the wheel will actually sit 13mm further out, and you'll find that the inner edge of the wheel will actually have 13mm less clearance from the strut housing i.e inner edge of the wheel moves further in. Therefore the whole paw print moves evenly out and in 13mm. If the 7.5in wide wheel had a +42 offset, the outer edge of the wheel would sit 26mm out compared to the 6.5in wheel, and the distance from the strut housing to the inner edge of your wheel would be the same as the 6.5in +55 wheel. Therefore the paw print extends outward 26mm, but not inward at all.

The ideal scenario is one where if increasing your wheel width, both the outer and inner edge increase evenly either side of the standard wheel, therefore maintaining a balance as close to standard as possible. The best way to do this is to stick with the same offest as standard no matter what width of wheel you use, however at the same time you have to ensure that the inner side of the wheel will clear the strut housing (if not you may have to go for a slightly lower offset to clear it). This combination in addition to finding a style that you like can be difficult to find, but in the end you'll be happier with how the car handles/grips and you'll be minimising the increase of wear on your suspension.

Here's a simple tool that you may find helpful http://toy4two.home.mindspring.com/offset.html

Hope this clears some things up for anyone still a bit confused :wave:

euro77
11-03-2005, 07:36 AM
Anyone know the thread pitch for the wheel nuts? is it 12 x 1.5 mm? or other size?

euro77
22-03-2005, 09:25 PM
Just got news from Honda, it's 1.5mm pitch, 12mm stud

Suntzu
29-05-2005, 10:35 PM
Im getting 18 inch wheels on my new accord euro standard. What is the best, legal, safest tyre size for the 18 that keeps the rolling diameter the same (as stock 16in) and keeps the offset ok for suspension load/wear??

yfin
29-05-2005, 10:41 PM
Im getting 18 inch wheels on my new accord euro standard. What is the best, legal, safest tyre size for the 18 that keeps the rolling diameter the same (as stock 16in) and keeps the offset ok for suspension load/wear??

Use this:

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

I think most tyre shops will recommend to you 225/40/18 - load rating above 91 to be legal.

Offset is determined by the rim - not tyres. You should aim for betwen +45 and +55.

euro77
29-05-2005, 10:45 PM
Not to mention speed rating must be V or above

yfin
29-05-2005, 10:48 PM
Not to mention speed rating must be V or above

240kph sounds nice to me.

Suntzu
29-05-2005, 11:00 PM
See the problem is I was shagged when i bought the car, 5pm Sat after a 5 hour drive. So i just said " Ill have the 18s that were on the demo I just drove" but I didnt get the brand, tyre size etc. So im going to ring them to confrim tommorow what it is.

I will say "225/40/18 - load rating above 91 V speed rating" and they should be cool with that cause that what they should already have.

Thanks for the advice. Ive learned a shit load since buying the honda yesterday. I like to be armed with info, esp when I pick it up. :)

yfin
29-05-2005, 11:02 PM
See the problem is I was shagged when i bought the car, 5pm Sat after a 5 hour drive. So i just said " Ill have the 18s that were on the demo I just drove" but I didnt get the brand, tyre size etc. So im going to ring them to confrim tommorow what it is.

I will say "225/40/18 - load rating above 91 V speed rating" and they should be cool with that cause that what they should already have.

Thanks for the advice. Ive learned a shit load since buying the honda yesterday. I like to be armed with info, esp when I pick it up. :)

Great - make sure you check the rim offset!! They will not let you take it back later.

Suntzu
30-05-2005, 09:22 PM
How do I check it when i pick the car up??

yfin
30-05-2005, 09:39 PM
How do I check it when i pick the car up??

It is on the inside of the rim - most likely you will need to remove rim off the car. Why don't you call the dealer and get them to find out.

PNR888
30-05-2005, 11:05 PM
Great - make sure you check the rim offset!! They will not let you take it back later.


Yeah, Offset of the rim is very important.
stock is 55, Offset 48 will allow wheels to sit out a little bit more than stock but still within legal limit, and it wont rub the guard/fender. Albii has 18" on his Euro with offset 48. It looks very very nice.

Suntzu
02-06-2005, 08:23 PM
yfin,

I got some info of the dealer today.

The wheels are made by KONYA ??
Continental Conti Sport Contact 2. Size is 215 40 R18 is the tyre.

Will this be ok? Anyone heard of KONYA?

I can get my insurance quote now, looks like the tyre size is well within 25mm of stock width. Are the continentals any good. The demo I drove had this Exact combination and frankly it handled brillantly, thats why I ordered exactly the same.

Any comments appreciated.

yfin
02-06-2005, 08:30 PM
yfin,

I got some info of the dealer today.

The wheels are made by KONYA ??
Continental Conti Sport Contact 2. Size is 215 40 R18 is the tyre.

Will this be ok? Anyone heard of KONYA?

I can get my insurance quote now, looks like the tyre size is well within 25mm of stock width. Are the continentals any good. The demo I drove had this Exact combination and frankly it handled brillantly, thats why I ordered exactly the same.

Any comments appreciated.

I can't find any info on Konya rims on the web. That doesn't mean they are bad - it just means they are more likely to be cheaper Taiwanese rims. Ask what the warranty period is for piece of mind.

In terms of tyres - 215 is an unusual size - I would be going for 225. Offset?

The Continental tyres sound fine.

Suntzu
02-06-2005, 08:34 PM
Yeah I couldnt find them either, might have been a type in the email they sent, maybe Koya ? Yeah the size is unusual. It will be in speed with the rolling diameter but.

Does this mean they are likely, 18x7 ? That would be good as I want to keep rolling resistance down.

Suntzu
02-06-2005, 08:37 PM
Actually, if you go here http://www.koyawheels.com/inox.html the first wheel presented looks EXACTLY like the one I saw on it. I think I was sent a typo. They are an australian company by the looks..

yfin
02-06-2005, 08:54 PM
Actually, if you go here http://www.koyawheels.com/inox.html the first wheel presented looks EXACTLY like the one I saw on it. I think I was sent a typo. They are an australian company by the looks...

Yep - I see. You should call them tomorrow and find out the offset available for the 18 x 8. If it is not too late I would also inquire about 225 wide tyres.

215 on an 8" wide seems wrong.

PNR888
02-06-2005, 09:12 PM
yfin,



Continental Conti Sport Contact 2. Size is 215 40 R18 is the tyre.


Are the continentals any good. The demo I drove had this Exact combination and frankly it handled brillantly, thats why I ordered exactly the same.

Any comments appreciated.

Continental is a German brand (I think). It makes good quality tyres, just that they dont have that much publicity here in oz like Goodyear and bridgestones. Lots of Mercedes have Conti SPort Contact 2 as standard tyres (eg. C200 K). so they can't be to bad.

Suntzu
03-06-2005, 09:22 AM
They sare definately KOYA wheels. Im not sure of which one exactly. 5 or r spoke, maybe the sport versions. I checked with the dealer. They may be 18x7 or 18x7.5 as that would make sense with the 215/40/18.

nitro
03-06-2005, 09:24 PM
Continental is a German brand (I think). It makes good quality tyres, just that they dont have that much publicity here in oz like Goodyear and bridgestones. Lots of Mercedes have Conti SPort Contact 2 as standard tyres (eg. C200 K). so they can't be to bad.

The Conti Sport Contact 2 are awesome tyres!! I've got a set on my Supra, and they are easily the best tyres I've had on it - better even than the Pirelli P Zero Assymetrico's I had (and more expensive too). As a comparison, the prior Falken's I had (not the cheapo ones, the top street tyre) would light up in 4th gear in the wet under boost, with the Conti's I can nail it in 3rd and it sticks!!
Now, obviously the Euro won't have that problem, but it goes to show they've got some grip... They also ride very nicely, and are pretty quiet too!! (Damn, I'm starting to sound like a Conti salesperson :D )

Suntzu
03-06-2005, 10:28 PM
Great. Frankly I was astounded why the euro stuck so incredibly well on the 18" and the contis. That explains it! :)

yfin
04-06-2005, 10:16 PM
Great. Frankly I was astounded why the euro stuck so incredibly well on the 18" and the contis. That explains it! :)

It is not so much the tyres - even the stock Euro with 16" grips really well in the dry. Very hard to rotate the rear enough to break traction. I think it would be a bloody hard car to lose control in - in the dry that is.

PNR888
05-06-2005, 12:20 AM
I went to Brisbane BMW last night, looked thru the showroom's glass window. The new 3 series (320i with 16") have Continental Conti Sport Contact too.

hnm738
08-06-2005, 08:58 PM
sorry for asking this....

using this website http://toy4two.home.mindspring.com/offset.html

our wheel is 6.5 width with 55 offset
if i was to get width 7 offset 40

it say that "The clearance from stut housing to the inside of the wheel will be 9mm MORE"

what exactly does that mean? and is it ok ? thanks

euro77
08-06-2005, 11:10 PM
it means you have more room in the inside because your wheels will be sticking out a lot to the outside.
Most people would recommend not to go below +43 offset for euro. +48 is probably the best offset, as it will sit the wheels flush with the guard.

hnm738
10-06-2005, 11:52 PM
what would happen if i do get rims that is 40 offset 17x7

the calculator says its 9mm more does that mean i might rub the guard if i turn?

hnm738
10-06-2005, 11:55 PM
my car isnt lowered so does that have any affect? or shoul dit be ok to use? thanks

euro77
11-06-2005, 12:05 AM
9mm more clearance meaning you have more room inside the wheel area, so it won't rub. however, your wheel will stick to the outside.
read how much the wheel will stick out, then measure it on your car, if you find it good, then go ahead. But becareful, I think it's illegal to have the wheel sticking out too much.

hnm738
11-06-2005, 12:12 AM
it says it sticks out 21mm??? is that still legal for our euro? sorry for these stopid questions i dont really know much about these things

hnm738
11-06-2005, 12:13 AM
does that mean from my guard the wheel will stick out 2.1cm? what is the legal limit in australia?

euro77
11-06-2005, 04:55 PM
it sticks out 21 mm than what currently is. so you need to measure 21 mm towards the outside from your stock rim, and that's where your new rim will end up.
again, as others have said, +48 offset seems to be the best for euro.

albii
11-06-2005, 05:28 PM
yeah even +45 but no less....+45 or +48 seem to be about right.

hnm738
11-06-2005, 06:00 PM
from what the calculator says , a 17x7.5 +48 sticks out 20mm also soo not much difference as long as the 9mm more from stut housing is ok for the euro (not touching brakes, guard etc) then im happy

Suntzu
21-06-2005, 03:47 PM
Looks like im getting Inox 1 18x8 wheels on my euro. Will this size be too wide for insurance if the stock wheel is 16x6.5 ???

albii
21-06-2005, 06:47 PM
Looks like im getting Inox 1 18x8 wheels on my euro. Will this size be too wide for insurance if the stock wheel is 16x6.5 ???
inox 1 are fine...i was looking at them also until i found out there was another 3 or 4 euros floating around brisbane with the same wheels some with 19s in the inox 1s.

Suntzu
21-06-2005, 06:57 PM
Bugger, been told that they cant source the inox 1 due to a supply problem. Jeeze im getting BS'ed around on this deal...they reckon 4 weeks. Im gunna cancel the wheels and get them myself later.

albii
21-06-2005, 06:58 PM
Bugger, been told that they cant source the inox 1 due to a supply problem. Jeeze im getting BS'ed around on this deal...they reckon 4 weeks. Im gunna cancel the wheels and get them myself later.
hey where abouts you live bro which city??

Suntzu
21-06-2005, 07:09 PM
Im in canberra but the cars in sydney

albii
21-06-2005, 07:11 PM
have a look at my other choice look at my car pics

Suntzu
21-06-2005, 10:07 PM
Im not sure what you mean?? Which pics?

PNR888
22-06-2005, 01:12 AM
Suntzu:
Another member checked with Beaurepair tyre shop for Koya Inox1 recently. he been told that Inox-1 is out of stock now until july. so I guess your dealer is not telling you lie.

Agree with you, I will get the car first. then do the wheel later.

$2200 with continental tyres sounds good deal. but u probably can get slightly better deal NanKang NS2 tyres. (make sure you get at least 225/40/18 tyre for 8" wide rims)

Suntzu
22-06-2005, 09:28 AM
Yeah, its a done deal now. Ill try to get my own wheels and trade the 16s. Is tempe wheels any good?

REK13S
24-08-2005, 10:42 PM
anyone know offset of stock euro luxury 17s

yfin
24-08-2005, 11:07 PM
anyone know offset of stock euro luxury 17s

I am fairly sure it is +55 - same as 16".

Ferrarista
24-08-2005, 11:16 PM
This is what I like, got a quote for $2,000 delivered to my door for a set of 4 18" mags with tyres. Just waiting for spare cash.

http://www.ozzytyres.com.au/wheels_more.php?mag_images_id=104&mag_id=31

Try tempe tyres as well, they are really cheap as well.

Hehehe i just bought those wheels!!

Look at the photo forum under my post for new wheels for the Euro

Breeze
24-02-2007, 09:04 PM
I put a set of mazda RX8 18 X 8 rims on the accord euro wagon, suit it very well. The mazda rims have a +50 offset and the rim guards on the 225 tyres sit outside the guards slightly. But the overall rim suits the euro really well (similar design to the stock rims only much bigger). The 45 series potenza 040 makes the diameter a bit more though.

power_of_dreams
15-03-2008, 08:43 PM
BUMP.

Looking into aftermarket 17s. What bolt pattern am I looking for? 5x114.3 or 5x100? And what is the suitable range of offsets? Thread dimensions for locknuts?

akina
15-03-2008, 09:39 PM
5x114.3, +45 - +55 offset

power_of_dreams
15-03-2008, 10:15 PM
hmmm, buddyclub p1 sf has 5x114.3 in 42 offset and 5x100 in 48 offset for 17x7.

Obviously as 5x100 stud pattern won't fit it looks like only the 5x114.3 version is suitable.
Done a search etc and it seems +42 may be a fine line. Will I encounter problems (scrubbing etc), especially in the future if I lower the car ~1.5" all round?

And anybody know about the locknut dimensions?

Crapdaz
16-03-2008, 06:55 AM
5x114.3 between +45-+55 offset & lugnuts should be M12x1.5 <-- confirm with someone else but thats what i know.

power_of_dreams
16-03-2008, 11:37 AM
cheers, I think I can get away with 42 offset because its only 7 inch wide. Hopefully no probs when it comes to lowering

akina
16-03-2008, 01:06 PM
42 offset is fine, difference to 45 is so little.

M12x1.5 :thumbsup:

power_of_dreams
16-03-2008, 04:24 PM
Thanks!

Darkii_
01-06-2008, 09:31 PM
Sorry to revive an old thread guys, just considering getting some new rims and i want to make sure i get the right size etc.

Rim size - 5x114.3 / 17x7J with +45 Offset
Tyres - 225/45/17

Would that be suitable to run on the euro? I'm sorry, very noob with all this technical stuff

akina
02-06-2008, 12:41 AM
thats fine, thats just like stock 17"s but with a lower offset which is even better :thumbsup:

raz05
02-06-2008, 01:35 AM
Sorry to revive an old thread guys, just considering getting some new rims and i want to make sure i get the right size etc.

Rim size - 5x114.3 / 17x7J with +45 Offset
Tyres - 225/45/17

Would that be suitable to run on the euro? I'm sorry, very noob with all this technical stuff

I have exactly the same size wheels b4 on my euro except i'm running 215/45/17
fits perfect

Darkii_
02-06-2008, 07:05 AM
thanks for that guys =) will post up pics when i get them

Merlin086
02-06-2008, 07:59 AM
Sorry to revive an old thread guys, just considering getting some new rims and i want to make sure i get the right size etc.

Rim size - 5x114.3 / 17x7J with +45 Offset
Tyres - 225/45/17

Would that be suitable to run on the euro? I'm sorry, very noob with all this technical stuff

That's what I run.....

Plenty of clearance on the guards when lowered 50mm or so and the tyres aren't "too" expensive".

The 45mm offset will increase you track by 20mm....:thumbsup:

Darkii_
02-06-2008, 11:23 AM
Would that 20mm affect the speedo reading much? reading higher or lower?

euro77
02-06-2008, 11:40 AM
No, the offset will not change your speedo reading whatsoever. It's the overall diameter of your tyres that will change the speedo reading (as in if you change your rims and tyres and doesn't follow the oem spec anymore).

the 20mm increase in track he's referring to means that the distance between left and right tyres increased by 20mm over standard oem spec.

Darkii_
02-06-2008, 11:54 AM
ahh ok, thanks for clearing that up euro77. I'm going from the stock 16" to 17" but, so i'm guessing theres going to be a change

euro77
02-06-2008, 11:57 AM
use the tyre calculator to calculate what's the best size going up from 16" to 17" to keep your speedo reading as accurate as possible.

Example of tyre calculator : http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

There are heaps other tyre calculators out there :)

rule of thumb, if going up 1" in rim size, increase the width of the tyre by 20, and reduce the profile of the tyre by 10. So if original spec is 205/55R16, going to 17 you should use 225/45R17.

Darkii_
02-06-2008, 12:50 PM
Awsome, just what i'm planning on getting. Thanks a lot for all the info euro77.

euro77
02-06-2008, 02:10 PM
No worries.

Oh, don't forget that the width of the tyres depend on the width of the rim as well, as in you can't fit tyres that are too wide for the rims. For 225, recommended is 7.5" - 9" rim width. So it's not advisable to put 225 on a 17x7" rims.

Darkii_
02-06-2008, 10:52 PM
Oh really? The stock euro lux rims are 17 x 7.0 JJ with 225/45 R17 tyres? Should i be looking at different size tyres then to run on a 7" width rim

euro77
03-06-2008, 08:10 PM
Hmm.. you're right then, 225 would be fine. I was just following the rim width calculator on http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible_pg2.html

ludecrs
11-11-2008, 10:04 AM
Would a set of BBS RG-R fit in the following sizes?

18x7.5 +45 - 215 Goodyear RE-02's
18x8.5 +49 - 225 Goodyear RE-02's

Crapdaz
11-11-2008, 10:36 AM
18x7.5 +45 - 215 Goodyear RE-02's <-- yes
18x8.5 +49 - 225 Goodyear RE-02's <-- yes, may scrub in full turn
also i am guessing your running profile 40 right?

ludecrs
11-11-2008, 10:48 AM
yes.

215/40/18
225/40/18

I didn't think the rears would scrub in a turn?

Crapdaz
11-11-2008, 11:15 AM
yes.

215/40/18
225/40/18

I didn't think the rears would scrub in a turn?

no i meant the front, rear is fine.

JunYu
11-11-2008, 11:20 AM
I doubt the front would scrub considering that it's 7.5 wide. Also using 215.

Crapdaz
11-11-2008, 11:21 AM
well he mentioned two sizes.
and depending on how low he is lowering the car.

akina
11-11-2008, 01:30 PM
if its stock height or not a fully sick drop then there is no way its gonna scrub

r-r-redEuro
11-11-2008, 11:08 PM
what if it was lowered and with the 2 different offset and width, having 7.5 at the front with +45 offset and 8.5 at the back with 49 offset ? would it scrub if the euro was to be lowered ? because i have interest ludecrs's rims thats why =P

akina
11-11-2008, 11:24 PM
it really depends on how much its going to be lowered... if about 1-2 finger space left then i wouldn't even be worried abit...

and wouldn't putting the 8.5 at the front and 7.5 at the rear will be better off with the amount of understeer we get. as there is more traction at the front so we will lose the rear a little bit more.
well this only applies if ur planning on tracking it :p

r-r-redEuro
11-11-2008, 11:59 PM
lol yeah i know but it would be weird having a wider rims on street. and even if i do plan to track it, i can always swap them around just before track day comes =).

and would 8.5width fit at the front ? i think 8" is the max :S correct me if im wrong

akina
12-11-2008, 01:07 AM
nah its all good, im running 8.5 wide front and rear.

Crapdaz
12-11-2008, 06:55 AM
as akina has said it will be fine.

mattchuej8
05-05-2009, 05:03 PM
Issues with 19x8?
tyres would probably be around 30-35 thickness ay? and i would some what lose the "luxury ride".
18x8 would be better true?
just seeking confirmation lol. but i want to see the difference with 18 vs 19

Crapdaz
05-05-2009, 05:17 PM
35 is okay for ride comfort.
but mainly depends on your suspension you've got installed.

mattchuej8
05-05-2009, 05:19 PM
Planning to get tein mono flex. and keep it like 14cm off the floor or something dont want to have to hassle too much about humps lol.

Crapdaz
05-05-2009, 05:21 PM
Planning to get tein mono flex. and keep it like 14cm off the floor or something dont want to have to hassle too much about humps lol.
do you have a lipkit on it or OEM with nothing?

mattchuej8
05-05-2009, 06:30 PM
completely OEM, just bought it from dealer 2 weeks ago lol.
I would really appreciate(x100) if an owner with 19's and an owner with 18's could send me pics. im after a specific look without having to have dumpage.

Crapdaz
06-05-2009, 11:29 AM
completely OEM, just bought it from dealer 2 weeks ago lol.
I would really appreciate(x100) if an owner with 19's and an owner with 18's could send me pics. im after a specific look without having to have dumpage.
look at my appearance gallery at all the pics i have.
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=100069&highlight=crapdaz
see my car cause i am running CE28N (+50offset) and Gramlights 57 Max time attack (+43offset) both in size 18x7.5 with 225/40/18 tyres.

The rear in the latest pics are the lowest setting, the front has 0.5-1finger gap depending what wheels i have on them.

Hope this helps.
Daz

mattchuej8
06-05-2009, 08:10 PM
oh mad, massive help daz. +1 thanks.

mofolo
06-05-2009, 10:32 PM
how bout 20x8.5?

what tyres would you need to maintain comfort?

Crapdaz
07-05-2009, 09:04 AM
oh mad, massive help daz. +1 thanks.
nO WORRIEs!!!
I have 2 sets of wheels
Both same size 18x7.5 but 2 diff offset +43 (gramlights 57 max TA wrapped in dunlop sp sport maxxx 225/40/18) and +50 (CE28N wrapped in Toyo T1R 225/40/18).

Without changing damper setting on my coilovers by driving the car and swapping tyres with same tyre pressure they both ride differently, the toyo more uncomfortable than the T1R but also could be due to the fact that CE28N are lighter.


how bout 20x8.5?

what tyres would you need to maintain comfort?
20 i think to be safe you'd need to run 30 or 35profile but might be a close to whether you need to roll your guards or not.

Those sizes you'll need to ask the baller euro owners.

mofolo
07-05-2009, 02:20 PM
Those sizes you'll need to ask the baller euro owners.

lol.

The only reason I ask is because the Evulve's E15 come in 18's and 20's.

I wanted 19's damnit!

mattchuej8
17-06-2009, 03:24 PM
possible to run 19" on 40-45 profile tyres?

Crapdaz
17-06-2009, 03:59 PM
possible to run 19" on 40-45 profile tyres?
40 possible but alot of negative camber + rolling of both front and rear guards.

TRaNz
17-06-2009, 04:06 PM
40 possible but alot of negative camber + rolling of both front and rear guards.

and also your speedo will be out of whack coz the rolling diameter is larger than stock. So prob have to get it re-calibrated or something. 35 profile on 19s isnt to bad....consider it a massage :p

Crapdaz
17-06-2009, 04:10 PM
and also your speedo will be out of whack coz the rolling diameter is larger than stock. So prob have to get it re-calibrated or something. 35 profile on 19s isnt to bad....consider it a massage :p
It's not worth getting it calibrated.

TRaNz
17-06-2009, 04:11 PM
It's not worth getting it calibrated.

Has anyone done it before? i havent heard of anyone gettin their speedo re-calibrated. They just go with bigger tyre and wheels and guess match their speed with other cars around them....LOL

mattchuej8
17-06-2009, 05:54 PM
Oh thats right lol. totally forgot about the speedo issue. i was thinking comfort and looks. gah --"
lol.
what profile would u run on 20"?
30?

TALEB TYRES
19-06-2009, 12:19 AM
with the correct profile tyre, theres no need to recalibrate the speedo,

ie if you run a 225 30 20, its only about 11mm bigger. RTA gives you 15mm so thats fine and perfectly LEGAL in that area...But its the load rating you gotta watch out for, thats the other part of the problem(not to mention rim width as well)...

For better comfort and looks, a 225 35 20 would be better, but this will throw the speedo out, and may also cause rubbing, however you could opt for a 235 30 20, this is wider and also higher so it will give a better ride. From memory it borders on the 15mm( i think its 16.? to be exact), but depends on your calculator so it should be fine. It is usually more expensive(from other places) though as its not as common as a 225 30 20.

10KRPM
28-06-2009, 09:04 AM
On a side note....has anyone who has replaced their standard 17 inch tire size with say like a 225 35? This size is more common then what honda fitted out the lux with and is 20 bucks cheaper or more in some cases.

Any adverse effects on steering, handling etc etc?

tony1234
28-06-2009, 11:26 AM
On a side note....has anyone who has replaced their standard 17 inch tire size with say like a 225 35? This size is more common then what honda fitted out the lux with and is 20 bucks cheaper or more in some cases.

Any adverse effects on steering, handling etc etc?
Do you mean 235/45/17?That's the size that Commodores and Falcons use.This size is more commonly used and therefore cheaper.Not sure how you'd go with this size on the Euro as far as rolling diameter goes.PM Taleb above,he'd know.

10KRPM
28-06-2009, 11:55 AM
Shouldnt too much of an issue since it is only a few more mm...........thats just an assumption though.

tony1234
28-06-2009, 12:13 PM
Shouldnt too much of an issue since it is only a few more mm...........thats just an assumption though.
I'm thinking the same.You'd get more of a bulge with the tyre on the rim on the 235 than the 225 so ride comfort may be slightly improved but handling may be reduced marginally.

mattchuej8
09-07-2009, 08:54 PM
Yay or Nay!?

pics + specs below.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h196/M4TCHU/Picture2.png
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h196/M4TCHU/Picture1.png

Crapdaz
09-07-2009, 10:38 PM
got a photo of your euro matt?
lookz alright.

.QD
09-07-2009, 10:43 PM
Yay or Nay!?

pics + specs below.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h196/M4TCHU/Picture2.png


I say Yay.

Crapdaz
09-07-2009, 10:44 PM
make sure you get hub centric rings and a center cap to reduce hub corrosion.

.QD
09-07-2009, 10:50 PM
Reminds me of:
http://www.atjo.org/teamagentz/images/present&#37;20members/tim-903/05.jpg
and
http://www.atjo.org/teamagentz/images/past%20members/tbr-870/05.jpg

mattchuej8
09-07-2009, 11:02 PM
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h196/M4TCHU/tint1.jpg

the car is pretty much stock, but im hoping/have a feeling those rims will suit mine nicely.
tint and entertainment done. rims next and soon when i get my tax! :)
the specs on the rims seem in order ay?

Crapdaz
09-07-2009, 11:25 PM
yeh will look nice.

are they chrome or gloss or matte finish? will look good none the less.

mattchuej8
10-07-2009, 08:15 AM
Hyper silver center with stainless lip. pretty much a gloss :)
i was thinking chrome butttt...

Crapdaz
10-07-2009, 08:22 AM
gloss all the way....or matte no way would i choose chrome but if it suits your car better go for it.
Try test fit or something first before choosing.

Stargazer
29-07-2009, 04:02 PM
Just going through the posts here - been thinking of replacing my stock 16s with 18s. Looking at perhaps the devino gravity or BSA equivalent (two different tyre shops in Sydney).

I just went into one of the shops and he suggested a tyre size of 225/40/18 but that would put the increased diameter by 16mm (which as you guys all know is beyond the 15mm RTA allowance). He said it wouldn't be a problem. Anyone else have any experience here?

I would've thought a closer size would be the 245/35/18 tyres.

Any suggestions/experiences?

racerwannabe
29-07-2009, 07:57 PM
Stargazer, 225/40/18 is the right size. Thats what most people with 18" wheels are running on including myself. Check your calcs again, the diameter should not have increased by 16mm.

Stargazer
29-07-2009, 08:08 PM
Stargazer, 225/40/18 is the right size. Thats what most people with 18" wheels are running on including myself. Check your calcs again, the diameter should not have increased by 16mm.

Sorry, I'm a bit of a noob with tyres. I used the calc on http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible_pg2.html

It calculates the circumference of my 205/55/16 to be 1985.17mm and the circumference of the 225/40/18 to be 2001.82mm, a diff of 16.65mm.

The 245/35/18 only gave a 10mm difference (decrease) in circumference. I did notice this tyre size seems to be less popular - some manufacturers don't seem to even make this size. But I do like the thought of having wider tyres too. My mind is boggling at all these numbers and choices! Will the 245/35/18 fit a 18x7.5 wheel?

Sludge
29-07-2009, 09:08 PM
Sorry, I'm a bit of a noob with tyres. I used the calc on http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible_pg2.html

It calculates the circumference of my 205/55/16 to be 1985.17mm and the circumference of the 225/40/18 to be 2001.82mm, a diff of 16.65mm.

The 245/35/18 only gave a 10mm difference (decrease) in circumference. I did notice this tyre size seems to be less popular - some manufacturers don't seem to even make this size. But I do like the thought of having wider tyres too. My mind is boggling at all these numbers and choices! Will the 245/35/18 fit a 18x7.5 wheel?

You would be pushing it, you really need an 8 inch wheel for a 245. Max on a 7.5 inch would be a 225.

Try this calculator I found it useful when I was looking for wheels.

http://wheelsmaster.com/rt_specs.jsp

Stargazer
30-07-2009, 06:52 AM
You would be pushing it, you really need an 8 inch wheel for a 245. Max on a 7.5 inch would be a 225.

Try this calculator I found it useful when I was looking for wheels.

http://wheelsmaster.com/rt_specs.jsp


Thanks. Gave it a go. I should be looking at diameter difference and not circumference? I think that may have been my mistake.
But that above site shows the tire diameter to be 20mm less (and circumference to be 62mm less??).

(Just tried yet another calc at miata.net and it's only 6mm diff... Am I being RTA paranoid about the whole thing?)

Crapdaz
30-07-2009, 07:50 AM
you should use the rolling diameter calc on www.1010tires.com (http://www.1010tires.com).
you can compare with stock rolling diameter.

http://www.1010tires.com/tiresizecalculator.asp

best to stay within aprox 1.5&#37; imo, but ppl do crazy things.


Stargazer, 225/40/18 is the right size. Thats what most people with 18" wheels are running on including myself. Check your calcs again, the diameter should not have increased by 16mm.
depends how wide your tyres, if you were on a 7.5" i would preferably go with a 225 or max 235,
8 inch max i'd go is around 245 no more.

Stargazer
30-07-2009, 09:58 AM
Sorry, didn't make it clear. I was going for 18x7.5 wheels (but will 18x8.0 fit a 2004 accord euro?)

mattchuej8
30-07-2009, 10:30 AM
Sorry, didn't make it clear. I was going for 18x7.5 wheels (but will 18x8.0 fit a 2004 accord euro?)

yeah. right offset though. :)

Crapdaz
30-07-2009, 11:08 AM
Stargazer, 225/40/18 is the right size. Thats what most people with 18" wheels are running on including myself. Check your calcs again, the diameter should not have increased by 16mm.


Sorry, didn't make it clear. I was going for 18x7.5 wheels (but will 18x8.0 fit a 2004 accord euro?)
yeh choose the right offset.

Between +40(lower) to +55(higher) will work. (Not the only offsets available though, but the range the euro would be suitable for)
+40 more likely to touch wheel arches at a higher ride height.
+55 sits inside wheel arch so has more room for lowering.

+40 will give you a flush look, and by having it further out will mean you will have more negative camber than someone who has a higher offset wheel.

Ingalls or any camberkit is a must when lowering.

hope this helps you even though it's all been covered....

Stargazer
30-07-2009, 01:41 PM
Thanks for all the help guys. Think I will go with the 18x7.5 with 225/40/18 combo.

Crapdaz
30-07-2009, 02:17 PM
Thanks for all the help guys. Think I will go with the 18x7.5 with 225/40/18 combo.

Another suitable one would be 18x8 with 235/40/18

Stargazer
30-07-2009, 09:46 PM
Another suitable one would be 18x8 with 235/40/18


Ugh, you've just given the king of indecision another choice to make!

Stargazer
01-08-2009, 03:12 PM
Ok, thanks for all the advice guys. Found a nail in my rear tyre, so took that as a sign from above and went to get the new wheels and tyres today.

Ended up getting the 18x7.5 Lenso GF7 black with chrome lip, and a set of kumho KU23 tyres.

One thing I forgot to ask the tyre place is what is the correct pressure for these tyres (225/40/18R).

Crapdaz
02-08-2009, 09:58 PM
Ok, thanks for all the advice guys. Found a nail in my rear tyre, so took that as a sign from above and went to get the new wheels and tyres today.

Ended up getting the 18x7.5 Lenso GF7 black with chrome lip, and a set of kumho KU23 tyres.

One thing I forgot to ask the tyre place is what is the correct pressure for these tyres (225/40/18R).
max is 50PSI they are capable of but for comfort you can stay at 32 as recommended by factory wheels else play around to whatever is comfortable for you, i normally use between 34-38.

The pressure really depends on what tyre you have.