My EK4 VTiR :D

[Temp3st]

Hey guys fiinnaaallly got my first Civic and im absolutely over the moon about it!
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/Temp3st13/4812068.jpg
First and foremost please dont flame me for anything on the car as i bought it that way. Quick question tho i want to replace the rims because i dont like chrome on cars, so would anyone have any sort of suggestions as to what they think would suit? I live in Qld if it matters haha. Thanks heaps :D

[EK1.6LCIV]

congrats on the buy

love the combo os gear on it

as for rims on a black car you can't look past a nice set of white wheels :D

[EK9]

welcome and congrats on purchase... nothing wrong with the car, it's a personal thing. who cares what other ppl think ;)

second, it's a mugen (style) kit... as jdm as u can get, hehe.

third, rims depend on what style you like... dish, racing, etc... so many styles, so many to choose from

and i reckon u should have posted this in the intro or appearance thread... not really a civic specific topic, if u know wot i mean.

[Temp3st]

Shit yeah good point uhh well i dunno how to move it so if an admin can move this i would really appreciate it haha still getting around the amazing forums here. And yeah i was thinking white as well it just makes it stand out that much more, but i have absolutely no idea where to start looking for rims or anything apart from bob jane, and i dont trust those wankers one bit lol.

[chunky]

lowek
isnt that a member on here?

advan for wheels lol
or sprint harts

[Temp3st]

Could be the guy i bought it off loves the car but i wouldnt know man. Thanks for the advice on rims :D appreciate everyone's feedback.

EDIT: Anyone have any idea if its 4 or 5 nuts for the rims? I have no idea and forgot to ask the guy lol ><

[SiR CRX]

Sweet EK4 mate. I just bought one as well, they are stacks of fun.

Rims? Well i'm a sucker for JDM style so I would have to say Enkei RPF1 or Advan RG etc.

[Temp3st]

How good is Buddyclub? Because my bro showed me some of their rims and they dont look too bad but i dunno if they're good or not, i prefer white ones as we ll so yeah

[mrwillz]

ek4? wheres the sunroof?

[Temp3st]

Nfi lol didnt know they were supposed to have them, there's a plate in the car tho that says June 1998 EK4

[chunky]

no sunroof conversion

[mrwillz]

how much for non-sunroof conversion?

or ek1 shell :|

[Temp3st]

Well i dunno coz the EK4 tag was riveted to the shell in the engine bay lol

[mrwillz]

pics of engine bay

[Temp3st]

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/Temp3st13/4812069.jpg
Havent actually got the car yet still sitting at the dude's place i still have to pick it up so thats the best i have atm

[mrwillz]

thats good that it has a b-series engine!

[Temp3st]

Haha shit yeah thats what i thought i saw B16 Blacktop i was like :O win and i was lucky to find it in my home town thankfully. B-series goes soooo hard.

[SiR CRX]

thats good that it has a b-series engine!

If it's a VTi-R what other engine would it have?

I think, but i'm not 100% sure, that you could actually get the VTi-R without a sunroof if you asked nicely.

[jks24]

nice one

[jks24]

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/private/HONDA/CIVIC/details.aspx?R=6082963&Make=HONDA&__Ns=pCar_PrivateSpecialFlag_Int32&#37;7c1%7c%7cpCar_I mageCount_Int32%7c1%7c%7cpCar_LastModifiedDate_Dat eTime%7c1&Model=CIVIC&__N=4294965322%2079%204294965250%204294933354%2042 94933208%201216%20834%20285%20257&State=Queensland&distance=25&silo=1003&seot=0&Cr=4&__Nne=20&trecs=11&state_id=79&__sid=11ADAB0C9678

[mrwillz]

If it's a VTi-R what other engine would it have?

I think, but i'm not 100&#37; sure, that you could actually get the VTi-R without a sunroof if you asked nicely.

i wasnt so sure it was a VTiR as all ek4 have sunroofs from his opening post

but having seen more pics
it could be the first ek4 i seen with no sunroof
interior looks to be ek4

[tuyen]

looks nice. congrats.

but yeah it is the first vti-r ek4/dc2 i've seen with no sunroof too :)

[Temp3st]

Lol well yeah its vtir he just hasnt taken it off carsales yet because he's hell busy during the week and his missus is sick too poor girl its her car she doesnt wanu sell it but knows she has too :P. And yeah its definetly VTiR. It goes so hard for a 1.6L engine i couldnt believe it

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

Welcome to Ozhonda mate :)

Be sure to take the car to a Bi-regular meet that my mate Darryl hosts :)

there is also a HUUUUGE meet planned for July (so be sure to be ready for that :p)


EDIT: Anyone have any idea if its 4 or 5 nuts for the rims? I have no idea and forgot to ask the guy lol ><

Your car should be 4x100 = 4 nuts per rim :thumbsup:

[SiReal]

maybe it was an import. thats the first thing i noticed too. ek4 without sunroof...

[Temp3st]

Well i would, but where is it going to be held? Because yeah i live in Hervey Bay and the closest city is Brisbane and thats like a 4 hour drive haha >< Thanks for the advice on the nuts too :D

[dupac->]

but is this an import?

[dupac->]

maybe the dent on your roof replaced the sunroof?

[Temp3st]

I dont know if its an import or not, i bought it off the dude and he bought it off someone else a while back i might ask him just outta curiousity. But if it was an import wouldnt it have a different name or something instead of VTiR? And what dent? The only thing i see is the reflection of a cloud :S

[tiksie]

maybe the dent on your roof replaced the sunroof?

There's not dent on the roof, just a reflection.

Very very very clean EK4!

Just make sure you go with a mate or something that knows about cars before purchasing it dude.. Unless you already have ? You seem to know preety much near nothing about cars! No offence, but you should take someone that's in the know!

My 2 cents.

Good luck with it all!

[EK9]

wow, didn't even notice the sunroof thing. like everyone else said, first time i've seen an EK4 with no sunroof... it's a standard part, not like anyone's gonna buy it off the showroom floor without one.

So best way to check if it's actually a VTIR EK4 is check the VIN number on the firewall in the engine bay... Should start with EK4xxx-xxxxx or something (like all hondas, vin number has chassis code). Don't bother with the blue tag cos u can get anything riveted on the chassis. Also don't forget to check that it matches with your registration papers.

[muzukashi]

lookin good there!

[Red_EG4]

VTi-R without a sunroof is win.
How much do you want to spend on rims? What style do you like/want?

[ekhybrid]

checking the firewall vin is pointless coz imo its a cut n shut ftw lol

[Temp3st]

There's not dent on the roof, just a reflection.

Very very very clean EK4!

Just make sure you go with a mate or something that knows about cars before purchasing it dude.. Unless you already have ? You seem to know preety much near nothing about cars! No offence, but you should take someone that's in the know!

My 2 cents.

Good luck with it all!

Yeah i know haha i know absolutely nothing, which is why im here and hoping to learn :P But i took Dad he's built two of his own cars from the ground up and knows that stuff inside out. As for rims i would like white ones and hopefully no more than 1500 tires included, or is that not enough? Thanks heaps for everyone's advice :D

[fabezzz]

Yeh im pretty sure this guy got ripped off unless they did release a model without a sun roof, seems pretty stupid tho if they didn't to go to all that trouble to turn a cxi or something into a ek4 and not do the sunroof.

[Temp3st]

I really have no idea, he seems pretty straight up about the car so i would have no idea which doesnt help me >< ahh well when i actually get the car in my garage ill have a look n let ya know.

[fabezzz]

I really have no idea, he seems pretty straight up about the car so i would have no idea which doesnt help me >< ahh well when i actually get the car in my garage ill have a look n let ya know.

But by then it would be already to late :P Most likely he bought a ek4 front cut and bolted it to a ek1 + swap the interior and then trys to sell it to someone like you for top dollar.

[Temp3st]

See i wondered about all this shit as well, but if he actually did that he did a fkn amazing job because it looks to me like an EK4 (not that i know anything) and he's selling it for 13 and a half. What should i look for to make sure its an EK4? Because ive only put down the deposit so far and dont wanu pay for a car that isnt what its supposed to be.

[fabezzz]

I went on google and had a look at the jdm ek4's one of them didn't have a sunroof so its ethier dodgy or its a imported one but im pretty sure he would of told you if it was imported should ring him up.

[Temp3st]

See he's not the first owner. But yeah i'll ask him anyway to see what he says. Haha i never thought of anything like that i just thought sweet civic vtir ive always wanted one. Looks like i really know nothing heh.

[ekhybrid]

Yeh im pretty sure this guy got ripped off unless they did release a model without a sun roof, seems pretty stupid tho if they didn't to go to all that trouble to turn a cxi or something into a ek4 and not do the sunroof.

nah they didnt for the aussie market

[fabezzz]

nah they didnt for the aussie market

Could it be a imported one tho? i thought if Aussies had their own version it wasn't possible to import a foreign made one with the import laws.

[Temp3st]

Well if it was imported wouldnt it be called something other than a vtir? Or does that not matter? Sorry for the stupid questions, just trying to learn as much as possible.

[fabezzz]

Im pretty sure its called a SiR in japan don't hold me to it tho.

[Temp3st]

Im pretty sure its called a SiR in japan don't hold me to it tho.

Yeah see thats what i thought as well, because i remember the first thing he said was the car had 170HP, and that would mean it would be Japanese, but the car said VTiR so it had to be Australian, but i never said anything about it because i wasnt sure.

[fabezzz]

The car is modded right maybe he added the mods to the power figure he gave you, but idk looks dodgy to me. If it says vtir in the bay then its def a aussie one so unless he bolted a aussie front cut to a jdm ek4 shell lol idk... i wouldnt buy it but thats just me.

[Temp3st]

Nah dad checked the engine bay and everything no mods sept for extractors thats it. Hmm ill have to have a closer look when i see the next car, although somehow i doubt he's done that, because i know him personally and he's not the type of person to do it :S

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

Has OP done a REV's check (and other appropriate and equivelent checks)

[fabezzz]

Have you done a rev check on the VIN and chassis No.? Not a really big deal i guess but by the time it comes for you to sell it , its most likely the person who buys it wont have a clue anyway.

[Temp3st]

OP = Original Poster? If so then yeah we've done it all and it checks out, has a RWC and everything. Anything else i should check?

[fabezzz]

Considered getting a nmra inspection done? costs about $300 tho but better safe then sorry.

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

OP = Original Poster? If so then yeah we've done it all and it checks out, has a RWC and everything. Anything else i should check?

Yes, very clever.

OP = Original Poster (was referring to you)

So the engine checked out as a B16a2 and the Shell checked out?

did you write down the VIN from the car and it checked out with the REV's check?

[Temp3st]

I havent done the REV's check yet no but the engine and shell both checked out. sorry about the OP thing lol im new to forums n stuff. Ill get the VIN number the next time im there to have a look, might just do it 2mz if i get enough info from you guys to check out. Thanks for the massive help.

[SPEEDCORE]

Back in the day... rebirths were done by simply cutting the VIN off the firewall, doing the same to the chassis that is going to be used, and weld it in place.

Chop shops were so good at it you could only tell if you took back the paint to metal in that area to see if it had been welded....

I would be very wary of an EK4 that has no sunroof, and has not been imported.

As for BUT it says VTiR..... there is nothing hard about putting a sticker on the rear hatch. Which is the ONLY reference to "VTiR" on an EK4..... well at least the ones delivered to Australia.

[tuyen]

Yeah I would highly recommend do the REVS check too. Better to be safe then sorry. 13k is alot of money..

Hrmm another idea to see if it is an REAL ek4 is check if its got the stock 13mm rear sway bar installed. If it doesn't have one installed.. def not a real EK4.

Or am I confused and cxi have rsb too?

[Temp3st]

Yeah i will do that then, i hope it all checks out tho because im going to be pissed if its not because its the only civic that is actually close to me, otherwise i would have to make a 5hour+ trip to brisbane to check out cars and i dont have the time or money to do that.

[Red_EG4]

Yeah i know haha i know absolutely nothing, which is why im here and hoping to learn :P But i took Dad he's built two of his own cars from the ground up and knows that stuff inside out. As for rims i would like white ones and hopefully no more than 1500 tires included, or is that not enough? Thanks heaps for everyone's advice :D
1500 is alright, it just depends on what rims you want. I would suggest a higher budget though, never skimp on your tyres.
Take a look in the appearance gallery and find the EK thread.
If you see a set of rims you like just ask about them in this thread and people will be able to help you out.

[Temp3st]

1500 is alright, it just depends on what rims you want. I would suggest a higher budget though, never skimp on your tyres.
Take a look in the appearance gallery and find the EK thread.
If you see a set of rims you like just ask about them in this thread and people will be able to help you out.

Trying not to skimp, but i have to pay off a 10grand loan for my car in basically one year so my budget cant go too high. Stupid money everyone needs it but there's never enough around lol.

[mrwillz]

anyone know if the ek4 interior is the same for audm and jdm?
looks like audm interior atm

[Temp3st]

Here's a photo of the interior if it helps?
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb40/Temp3st13/4812070.jpg

[an93l]

Check on the dash if it has a tachometer, because CXI doesnt have one

[jdmEG5]

TE37 white :D (y)

VORKS are the best ;) cheap cheap cheap :D

[addiktnexus]

The Gli has the tacho also.
Does it have center console storage behind the handbrake?

If not, you are looking at a cxi or a gli.

[ekvtec]

unless he changed the dash it is gli or ek4
because cxi dont have passenger airbags (correct me if im wrong)

[LowEk]

lowek
isnt that a member on here?

advan for wheels lol
or sprint harts

Chunky no its not me. but ive seen that car before on the gold coast and i had my name way before those plates were on a car as i was thinking about getting them but didnt in the end.

[Red_EG4]

Trying not to skimp, but i have to pay off a 10grand loan for my car in basically one year so my budget cant go too high. Stupid money everyone needs it but there's never enough around lol.
yeah thats cool.
Just enjoy the car as it is, you don't need to mod it.
You could find some cheap OEM Honda wheels just to get the chrome wheels off, and it would still look nice. Do you know what suspension work it has done?

[Raztaz]

anyone know if the ek4 interior is the same for audm and jdm?
looks like audm interior atm

dont the jdm ones have a double din slot center console and climate control controls on it (well, facelift anyway)

[Temp3st]

yeah thats cool.
Just enjoy the car as it is, you don't need to mod it.
You could find some cheap OEM Honda wheels just to get the chrome wheels off, and it would still look nice. Do you know what suspension work it has done?

Its had King Springs put on it havent asked how much more lowered it is, and yeah im considering putting my budget up a little more for the rims because i made a bit extra selling my Excel. Also the car has a tachometer in it. Got the Vin as well guna have a look at the REVs check as well.

jdmEG5 i had a look at the TE37s in white they look sooooo nice but i have no idea where to get them from here in Qld, any suggestions?

[I heart the SSS]

Meh, my mate has a CXI he bought off an old lady with:

- OEM EK4 Interior (Check the sticker / label on the inside of the door. The EK4 has "black", and the EK1 has "grey")

- OEM Ek4 sunroof

- Disk brakes

- Tacho

And some other nick nacks... Now I doubt this old lady bought a EK4 wreck and parted everything over apart from the engine.. There are some odd ball honda's out there.

I recon this car has had a front ender once in its life personally, a huge one at that.

Open the passenger / driver side door, and look for the interior colour code, it's a black and white square label looking thing.

Take a photo of it for us!

[Temp3st]

Meh, my mate has a CXI he bought off an old lady with:

- OEM EK4 Interior (Check the sticker / label on the inside of the door. The EK4 has "black", and the EK1 has "grey")

- OEM Ek4 sunroof

- Disk brakes

- Tacho

And some other nick nacks... Now I doubt this old lady bought a EK4 wreck and parted everything over apart from the engine.. There are some odd ball honda's out there.

I recon this car has had a front ender once in its life personally, a huge one at that.

Open the passenger / driver side door, and look for the interior colour code, it's a black and white square label looking thing.

Take a photo of it for us!

I know for a fact that it says Black on that colour code label i noticed it when i got in the passenger's side, will definetly post a pic up if i can get some 2mz or monday :D

[tuyen]

or maybe a huge rock fell on the original roof and damaged it. so they just cut the roof off and stuck a new roof on which had no sunroof

[Temp3st]

or maybe a huge rock fell on the original roof and damaged it. so they just cut the roof off and stuck a new roof on which had no sunroof

Lol wtf are the chances of that happening tho?

[I heart the SSS]

I know for a fact that it says Black on that colour code label i noticed it when i got in the passenger's side, will definetly post a pic up if i can get some 2mz or monday :D

interesting..

[Temp3st]

Lol yeah i dunno what to think anymore, i have the vin number now tho so ill have a look at the REVs.

EDIT: REVS for everyone:
The following details were found on TRAILS:
VIN: JHMEK4350WS003253
Make: HONDA
Model: CIVIC
Body Shape: HATC
Primary Colour: BLA

[fabezzz]

Thats not a rev check it should tell you if its been in a smash or not. also give me what tuyen is on LOL...

[Temp3st]

Right well that fails then lol thanks fabezzz yeah it wont actually show me whether or not its been in a crash without paying money for it :(

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

Pay the 30 bucks or whatever and find out mate, this is the vital part of it (hence i was asking if you've done the check or not)

[Temp3st]

yeah i might do that but the site that someone linked yday with the nsw revs check looks to be free and does QLD as well so ill check that but if not ill just pay it and find out.

[ek4-guy]

i've never seen an ek4 without a sunroof

[Temp3st]

Mmm thats what i said as well but apparently the guys here at the Honda dealer says that they did release non sunroof ek4s, so i dunno anymore :(

[ek4-guy]

Mmm thats what i said as well but apparently the guys here at the Honda dealer says that they did release non sunroof ek4s, so i dunno anymore :(

cool it looks good anyway :thumbsup:

[Temp3st]

Haha thanks i thought it looks pretty nice and goes bloody hard <3 Hondas

[kraiye]

this is a very interesting thread!
can't wait to see the outcome... and good luck!

if it was in a crash and had the front replaced, couldn't they have replaced the VIN with the one from the EK4 front cut? I guess it should still show up on revs though.

still a very nice car and if it's not genuine there's obviously been a lot of work put into it so... buy it anyway ;):thumbsup:

[Temp3st]

this is a very interesting thread!
can't wait to see the outcome... and good luck!

if it was in a crash and had the front replaced, couldn't they have replaced the VIN with the one from the EK4 front cut? I guess it should still show up on revs though.

still a very nice car and if it's not genuine there's obviously been a lot of work put into it so... buy it anyway ;):thumbsup:

Yeah im having all these things checked out and yeah the car has had so much poured into it its a mad car either way and yeah this thread became very interesting very fast haha.

EDIT:
Vehicle Enquiry Results

Registration Number: 10WEK Request Id: 107339295
Registration State: QLD Date: 01.03.2009
VIN/Chassis: JHMEK4350WS003253 Time: 17:25
Engine Number: B16A21602643
There are no encumbrances that match the quoted identifiers.

[Temp3st]

Quick update for those who are interested, the bank likes wang and as such has boned my application so they have to redo the bloody thing >< which means i cant drive the civic till the weekend :(

[mclovin]

i have a 1999 EM1 VTIR that you can buy thats just as nice and at a lower price. let me know if ur interested... oh yeah, i thought all EM1's came with sunroof too but mine does not.

[peeweechik]

get TE37 lol

[tiksie]

get te37 lol

vorks4lyfe

[misteR_bilzz]

i have a 1999 EM1 VTIR that you can buy thats just as nice and at a lower price. let me know if ur interested... oh yeah, i thought all EM1's came with sunroof too but mine does not.

LOL no they didnt. not in AUS.

OP; as for ur ek4... it could be an siR, does it have electric folding mirrors?

[fabezzz]

LOL no they didnt. not in AUS.

OP; as for ur ek4... it could be an siR, does it have electric folding mirrors?

Its not SiR its plated vtir in the engine bay.

[aimre]

At least it dont have some carby d15 like some other blokes on heres integra does

[fabezzz]

At least it dont have some carby d15 like some other blokes on heres integra does

Hahah why lol...

[Temp3st]

i have a 1999 EM1 VTIR that you can buy thats just as nice and at a lower price. let me know if ur interested... oh yeah, i thought all EM1's came with sunroof too but mine does not.

Heh i would but yeah already put down my deposit, and you're in NSW im in the top half of QLD its a tad far for me lol. And yeah i wanu get TE37s i just dunno where to get em in QLD thats the problem. Ill check about the mirrors thing i cant remember i was too busy drooling at the engine last i was there haha.

[peeweechik]

vorks4lyfe
vorks look funny!!

[mrwillz]

At least it dont have some carby d15 like some other blokes on heres integra does

actually an import

[mclovin]

ozzy tyres in bris vegas would be able to get te37s for u. i work at the ozzy tyres in gosford and we get VOLKS in for customers. but be prepared to wait a while.

as for being in QLD, im sure we can work out a way of getting the car to you.lol

[Temp3st]

Lol well its a bit too late now unfortunately otherwise i wouldve been dead keen aye i love EM1s :(. But yeah sounds good ill have a look at ozzy tires then if thats the case :D.

[Temp3st]

Fiiiinnnnaaallllyyy got the car! It goes so bloody hard! So worth the 10k debt im going into for it lol :(

[fabezzz]

haha man good to hear. Dont smash it lol

[Temp3st]

Lol yeah im trying not to haha atm the car is waaayyy too low already scratched the front lip a few times :( So im wondering whether or not to get a bit of a not so over the top lip. What do you think?

[Henessaayyy]

no lip ftw!

[Temp3st]

no lip ftw!

Lol yeah i would do that but it would look retarded with skirts n stuff :P. It drives so nicely been driving it all day i even forgot to eat thats how good it was haha so now im starving :( lol

[CRXDEL501]

congrats on the purchase mate

glad you got something you like after all the searching !

[Temp3st]

haha yeah thanks man its been a while but im insanely happy with it, let my Honda experience begin :D

[CRXDEL501]

haha yeah thanks man its been a while but im insanely happy with it, let my Honda experience begin :D

you'll love it...

[Temp3st]

Oh ive been loving it all bloody day haha i havent stopped driving, almost spent half a tank of fuel driving around :P Its heaps good!

[blk_shadow]

Lol yeah i dunno what to think anymore, i have the vin number now tho so ill have a look at the REVs.

EDIT: REVS for everyone:
The following details were found on TRAILS:
VIN: JHMEK4350WS003253
Make: HONDA
Model: CIVIC
Body Shape: HATC
Primary Colour: BLA

that Vin# shows that u have sunroof....

[Temp3st]

that Vin# shows that u have sunroof....

How? All it says is Honda Civic Black Hatch to me :S

[blk_shadow]

How? All it says is Honda Civic Black Hatch to me :S

I've checked it at work, using Honda Microcat

[mrwillz]

How? All it says is Honda Civic Black Hatch to me :S

all audm ek4 have sunroof

the end

[zco]

cut and shut ftl

[EGB18CT]

cut and shut ftl

x2 end...

[tuyen]

apart from being cut and shut jobs being illegal, is the rigidity of the chassis affected much?

[tiksie]

apart from being cut and shut jobs being illegal, is the rigidity of the chassis affected much?

Cutting a hole into the roof ?

You tell me..

[CRXDEL501]

Welcome to Ozhonda mate :)

Be sure to take the car to a Bi-regular meet that my mate Darryl hosts :)

there is also a HUUUUGE meet planned for July

Your car should be 4x100 = 4 nuts per rim :thumbsup:

this meet in july... is it um after the 21st?? :D

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

Nah Mate, its the 5th of July

Refer to here.

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107981

[CRXDEL501]

ok.
:(
i got my hopes up, was hoping it was later,since i dont get my licence back till the 21st.
thanks for the link!

[TONTON]

Maybe they crashed the EK4 and then bought a nugget CXI which probs had some damage,,,light cosmetic front and rear ? and transfered everything over including the VIN...

hence the bodykit and no sunroof?

[jdm_kid]

tear off the roof lining and look if its been removed. lmao maybe the owner wanted weight reduction

[Temp3st]

Maybe they crashed the EK4 and then bought a nugget CXI which probs had some damage,,,light cosmetic front and rear ? and transfered everything over including the VIN...

hence the bodykit and no sunroof?

Did a REVs check the car has been in no accidents or anything, looks exactly like a EK4 so i have nfi anymore lol either way it goes hard and is an overall nice drive :D

[VTECMACHINE]

Silver Rays CE28N's would look freaking awesome I reakon!!! DO IT PLEASEEE!!!

Nice car too man. Looks good, apart from the rims - which you want to change any ways.

Weird!!! No sunroof... EK4's were never made without sunroofs. Oh well... Nice EK1.4!

[rawr]

Cutting a hole into the roof ?

You tell me..

Pretty sure their talking bout chopping the front end of the car and popping a new one on, meaning the new car has the VIN and Engine, so it could show up as no encumberances

[CRXDEL501]

lets just leave it be.
and congratulate him on his new car, instead of putting rubbish into his head.
if its an vtir, its a vtir, if its a cxi with vtir benefits than who cares

as long as he is happy thats all that matters!

[Temp3st]

Well either way lol im happy with it and its weird because it has the rear sway bar thing someone mentioned as well as the black label in the door and shit so yeah i dunno aye in the end its a madd drive and yeah i wanu get new rims asap :D

[B147ch]

lol its an EK3.5 hahaha
ahh well mate, as long as youre happy with the car thats all that matters..
just dont try to sell it to one of us LOL :p

[Temp3st]

lol its an EK3.5 hahaha
ahh well mate, as long as youre happy with the car thats all that matters..
just dont try to sell it to one of us LOL :p

LOL I dont think im going to be selling it anytime soon haha :P

[Tai]

All AUDM EK4's came with sunroofs.

Unless you had an imported EK4 SiR from japan.

[B147ch]

All AUDM EK4's came with sunroofs.

Unless you had an imported EK4 SiR from japan.

dude read the previous posts..
we've obtained that its not a JDM SiR..

as for tempest, hope youre enjoying the sweet sound of vtec hehe
you should practise the following
4sets x 10 reps of saying "too soon junior" in the mirror
4sets x 12 reps of hitting the nawsssss
4sets x 8 reps of practising your face when u hit vtak
that'll give u like a guaranteed extra 207 kw atw man. no joke.
hit me up when you've given this a shot lollll

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

I f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-ffff****en LOL'D

[Temp3st]

dude read the previous posts..
we've obtained that its not a JDM SiR..

as for tempest, hope youre enjoying the sweet sound of vtec hehe
you should practise the following
4sets x 10 reps of saying "too soon junior" in the mirror
4sets x 12 reps of hitting the nawsssss
4sets x 8 reps of practising your face when u hit vtak
that'll give u like a guaranteed extra 207 kw atw man. no joke.
hit me up when you've given this a shot lollll

LOL thats pro hahahahah

[jdm_ek4yo]

Interesting thread, very very curious about the sunroof...
Anyways congrats on the purchase, update us when u get some new rims

[kleo]

Haha shit yeah thats what i thought i saw B16 Blacktop i was like :O win and i was lucky to find it in my home town thankfully. B-series goes soooo hard.

aw thats good dude, you sound happy with your new baby. :D i agree the chrome on car look is a bit "different". R you planning to keep it that size too?

[Temp3st]

aw thats good dude, you sound happy with your new baby. :D i agree the chrome on car look is a bit "different". R you planning to keep it that size too?

I dont know what i wanu do with it just yet, need to get a better job first haha. I dont like Chrome on cars so i either wanu go white TE37s or bronze rims from Volk they look nice as on a black civic, then eventually i wanu get into performance side of things when i learn a bit more haha.

[Temp3st]

Right well now that ive got the car i wanu know. Seeing how its EK4, how hard would it be to get a b18cr engine in there? Because ive been checking the forum and most of you either vote for b18cr or turbo b16, and since im going to be on my Ps for a while i obviously cant turbo it.

[CRXDEL501]

wanna do a conversion already?

[B147ch]

man,
tbh, dont waste your $$ just do up the b16 and you will have a beast lol

[CRXDEL501]

yeah agreed.
start off with the basics.
I/H/E

[Temp3st]

haha well Big Tone the member on here lives in the Bay and his B18 flogs mine lol, and my mate's stock r34 destroyed my ass so it was not fun. If i stick with the B16 then what mods should i look at doing? Already have a heavy duty clutch, and i have 421 extractor and catback system im pretty sure.

[B147ch]

yeah agreed.
start off with the basics.
I/H/E

go with these dude..
then u can start looking into cams muahahaha

[B147ch]

need a beasty ass air intake.. get rid of the panel filter there and do a cold air intake setup
that will make the b16a go from growling to barking! LOL

[tuyen]

Yeah a b18c or cr destroys even a lightly modded b16. extra 20-25hp more power at the wheels with the b18

i know this cause i had a dyno day on the weekend ;)

[CRXDEL501]

if you got headers and exhaust get a good cold air intake like B147ch said.
and then look at getting a tune and some cams.

[B147ch]

lol, let him roll with the setup he's got at the moment, then once the motor's on its last legs then he can decide i reckon...

[Temp3st]

I already have headers and an exhaust all i need is cold air intake but i honestly dont think its going to make that much of a difference. Also 1 more question is how do i know which ecu i have in the car without taking the paneling off to check? Because in the B16 FAQ thread it says thats a EK vtir should have OBD 2 is that correct?

[B147ch]

also, i'd go a hi flow cat converter.. like the big ****off stainless steel onez heh
yeh should be that ECU, if its a B16..
there are TONS of aftermarket parts for that engine man..
i was less fortunate to end up with d series vtec bebeh, but i've built her to a respectable rep..

[Temp3st]

Yeah i dunno i might have a look i need to get intake either way i mean shit i wont have money for the engine or the labour for a looonnnggg time and if im not mistaken most of those parts are bolt on neway so it shouldnt make too much of a difference. Any idea if the OBD2 can be chipped?

[B147ch]

just get an apexi VAFC II controller so u can at least get it tuned from that.. also lets u enjoy more rev's of vtec hehe

[CRXDEL501]

id look at the vafc if you dont plan to do any other mods.
i dont really rate the vafc, and also depends on the tuner.

if you plan on doing cams and stuff, look at getting something else. depending on budget, there are sooooo many to choose from.

[B147ch]

id look at the vafc if you dont plan to do any other mods.
i dont really rate the vafc, and also depends on the tuner.

if you plan on doing cams and stuff, look at getting something else. depending on budget, there are sooooo many to choose from.

^^ great minds think alike hahaha

[Temp3st]

Lol see i dont wanu enjoy TOO much vtec because it eats my fuel and im strapped for cash atm just paying for fuel and the loan repayments on the car haha >< But yeah i might have a look at that then. How much difference is a tune guna make?

[CRXDEL501]

^^ great minds think alike hahaha

haha. :thumbsup:

always good to look ahead before you go and spend pointlessly, and work slowly to reach your goal.

[CRXDEL501]

Lol see i dont wanu enjoy TOO much vtec because it eats my fuel and im strapped for cash atm just paying for fuel and the loan repayments on the car haha >< But yeah i might have a look at that then. How much difference is a tune guna make?

depends on how good the tuner is
what ecu
and the other parts on your car.

[uniorj]

I already have headers and an exhaust all i need is cold air intake but i honestly dont think its going to make that much of a difference. Also 1 more question is how do i know which ecu i have in the car without taking the paneling off to check? Because in the B16 FAQ thread it says thats a EK vtir should have OBD 2 is that correct?

Yeah, OBD2A

[B147ch]

last tune i did with my setup with the d16 vtec, i was pulling the same as a stock b16 with catback, and the VAFC..
now with new mods, have to take it back to toda for a tune with the new headers, intake and hi flow cat..
one major bummer about doing up cars...
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[Temp3st]

Hmm so really even if i stuck with this engine i can still do alot to it... So lets say i would want to do more, what could i do as a start? Apart from new ECU and intake because that would be the first things i'd do. Sorry for all the questions just trying to learn/clarify a few things :P

[B147ch]

look into aftermarket cams.?
crower cams are sick stage 2 i think?
correct me if im wrong b series guys..
heaps of NA tuning or u can slap a snail on the thing hehe

[Temp3st]

Hmm cams ill have to look at, also i was told to have a look at a 2l stroker kit, that might make a bit of a difference im pretty sure. As for the snail lol im still stuck on my Ps for another 2 years (a mistake ill be living down till im on my opens lol) so unfortunately thats out of the question. The reason i wanted to get a b18cr is because it gives me a bigger base to work with, as far as im concerned neway.

[B147ch]

if youre prepared to spend at least 6k on the complete engine plus labour..
then u have to do a brake upgrade kit etc etc...
u will most likely drive out 8-9k poorer...

[98vtir]

I've only read the first and last few pages but what about suspension? Mines totally stock except for a set of TEIN coilovers, fantastic cornering ability haha

[Temp3st]

See yeah i know i'd be walking out alot poorer, but if i then had the money to do it i'd rather do that so i get less of a cap on power output n stuff because the way i see it if i had the choice between a b18cr and a b16 to do up and money wasnt an option i'd go with B18cr. And lol ive got King Springs thats it.

[B147ch]

true.
most people on here will say do a k swap instead but no one has a spare 20grand lying around lol
beasts of a setup tho i must admit!

[Temp3st]

Lol yeah well i dont exactly have THAT much money but i figured if i can find a B18cR on the net somewhere just the engine for 4g labour should only cost about 2g that works out reasonably cheap?

[CRXDEL501]

not worth the money, hassles i recon.
if you wanted more power u should have jus got a type r.
i did

[Temp3st]

not worth the money, hassles i recon.
if you wanted more power u should have jus got a type r.
i did

I didnt have the money for a type R, whereas in a few months/years i will have money to do the upgrade. I wouldve bought the Type R straight up if i had the money aye they are beautiful cars.

[CRXDEL501]

at the end of the day, you gotta decide yourself, what you want, when you wanna do it. if you want to do this in the next few years, i say jus save, and when the time comes, do it. we can all give opinions, but its not our money dude.

turbo or b18 its up to you
in a few yaers, u will be off your p's.
and now, you dont have the money.
so enjoy what you got.

[uniorj]

Suspension work would be a good idea until you're on your full license.

How many drags are you going to against other cars? If you wanted to drag you probably shouldn't have got a Honda.

Good choice of car for cornering, looks and a very fun car to drive.

[Temp3st]

Ehh i dont exactly want to drag i just like getting power out of them, and yeah i was wondering in general i just thought i'd start with the engine because thats where everyone else seems to have started. What should i do in terms of suspension then?

[blk_shadow]

Ehh i dont exactly want to drag i just like getting power out of them, and yeah i was wondering in general i just thought i'd start with the engine because thats where everyone else seems to have started. What should i do in terms of suspension then?

do adjustable coilovers, they are worth the money. I've tried from lowered springs, shocks and springs combo, and then finally settled on coilovers.

[CRXDEL501]

coilovers are defs the way to go.
i wont ever get anything else when doing sussy.

[Temp3st]

So which coilovers do you guys recommend? Because yeah like i said atm ive only got King Springs and i dont know enough yet to know if there's a major difference and whatever lol im still learning, but i appreciate all the useful advice/knowledge you guys are sharing :)

[blk_shadow]

So which coilovers do you guys recommend? Because yeah like i said atm ive only got King Springs and i dont know enough yet to know if there's a major difference and whatever lol im still learning, but i appreciate all the useful advice/knowledge you guys are sharing :)

I used to use BuddyClub N+ Spec. and very happy with them. adjustable dampers as well, the most important thing next to height adjustable :p

[Temp3st]

Hmm ill have to look into it when i get a better job lol. K noob question (luckily this thread got moved into the right place :P) but what are dampers?

[kraiye]

basically the shock absorber part of the coilover - i'm sure someone will elaborate further

i went from king springs with stock shocks to kings + kyb agx shocks and thought that was great... then got coilovers and realised how naive i used to be!!

[Temp3st]

Ahhh right yeah ive only got King springs and stock shocks so i might look into that then. Lol looks like im going to need a fair bit of money for this operation hahaha

[Riviera]

coilovers you looking at roughly $1100 to 1600 depends what you wana get
ive got HSD coilovers in my ek4 with adjustable height and dampening
theyre on the softest setting atm because the hardest setting they barely move lol

theyre awesome and give no roll. so if you keen to join the GO.KARTS
coilovers are the way to go :thumbsup::thumbsup:, its also low enough for
you to open your door and put your drink on the ground outside the car
and not have to stretch to reach it :thumbsup: :D

I/H/E/Coilovers/Good Tyres, Toyo Proxes4

[blk_shadow]

Hmm ill have to look into it when i get a better job lol. K noob question (luckily this thread got moved into the right place :P) but what are dampers?

adjustable dampers mean that u can adjust the stiffness of your ride (soft on street and stiff on track for example)

[Temp3st]

Does replacing the camshafts in your engine require a mod plate or anything? And replacing the valvesprings and gaskets? Because there's a buddyclub special engine package for 1600 apparently and i wouldnt mind looking into it, but if it requires a mod plate then i cant, being on my Ps and all :(

[blk_shadow]

Does replacing the camshafts in your engine require a mod plate or anything? And replacing the valvesprings and gaskets? Because there's a buddyclub special engine package for 1600 apparently and i wouldnt mind looking into it, but if it requires a mod plate then i cant, being on my Ps and all :(

not in Victoria, dunno about Qld. yeah, u need to replace the springs and retainers as well.

[hai]

rims - BLACK CAR WHITE RIMS stands out!! :thumbsup:

[Temp3st]

rims - BLACK CAR WHITE RIMS stands out!! :thumbsup:

Yeah thats what i was thinking so im either getting Buddyclubs or white or gold Volk TE37s they look madd hopefully when i get the money neway :P

[Temp3st]

Righto quick question, the $900 that is supposedly coming through this april from the government, should i pour it into the car? Because i was guna use it to get better intake, but i dunno if i could get better bang for buck going for something else, so any suggestions?

Edit: Just wondering, without making yet another post, which car does a B18cR come out of? Because i thought it was the Integra Type R, but i think i might actually be wrong on that one :S. Thanks.

[blk_shadow]

lol, I wouldn't be pouring the whole lot on the car.

B18C7 is coming out of an integra type r. B18c2 is out of VtiR

[Temp3st]

lol, I wouldn't be pouring the whole lot on the car.

B18C7 is coming out of an integra type r. B18c2 is out of VtiR

I wasnt going to, i was just checking what i could do with the money thats all. And yeah i know about the B18C7 and c2 but what about the cR? Is that out of a JDM Spec Integra Type R?

[Riviera]

except the C7 is the AUDM type R motor the JDM one is the B18C with no number

B18C
JDM Honda Integra Type R
* Power: 205 hp (153 kW) @ 8500 rpm

B18C7
1996- Honda Integra Type R (Australia)
*Power: 193 PS/189 hp (141 kW) @ 8200 rpm

curtiosy of wikipedia...

as for the $900, easy get a intake with that depends on what your like
spoon, mugen, injen or simote or just a normal noname ebay ftw $130 delivered lol

[kraiye]

people just add the 'R' on the end to let u know it's an ITR engine :thumbsup:
there's not actually an engine with a 'B18CR' code

[CRXDEL501]

get a good intake man. cai like aem, injen or fujita :)

[Temp3st]

Ahhhh right ok then that helps heaps thanks guys yeah CRXDEL501 i wanu get intake, but i know shit all about them so i cant decide which one i want, which will fit and all that other shit lol. Ahh the joys of learning haha :P