View Full Version : b16a comes from integras aswell!?!?
bubblecivic
24-10-2004, 08:11 PM
i came across this ad from a jap import site...
"Honda B16A Vtec Integra half cut, low k's, 100% complete, will sell with lights and panels as per pics at a no cost bonus!"
anyway, so how many kw is this engine compared to b16s from crx's and sir civics?
also i did a search and there was this question about cable/hydro clutch and was wondering if this is a major problem when doing a conversion? does it matter if your using the gearbox from the halfcut aswell?
i dunno, but i've seen bits of a honda catalogue with all of the jdm models and there are so many variations of civics, integras, etc that i wouldn't be suprised if it did exist.
tinkerbell
24-10-2004, 08:15 PM
yes.
118kw or 125kw (late 92 only)
if you car is cable - get a cable tranny.
Terry
24-10-2004, 08:16 PM
If is a DOHC.....if is a Vtec engine....and if is on integra......engine should be B18c or the typr-R engine.....B16A power integra may be is the 90s model one? If is wrong pls correct it.
[[d a n n y]]
24-10-2004, 08:18 PM
LS vtec
DA integra only the JDM..
called the Xsi? i think ?
tinkerbell
24-10-2004, 08:18 PM
btw -was called a Integra Xsi
see here:
http://www.honda.co.jp/HOT/ModelData/integra/9it-ka-904a/3dxsi_sy.html
tinkerbell
24-10-2004, 08:19 PM
and yeah - ONLY JDM!!!!
bubblecivic
24-10-2004, 08:21 PM
but say for e.g i'm getting a halfcut right, does it matter whether i have cable or
hydro tranny?
cause won't i end up using the parts from the halfcut anyway? or is it not possible and i gotta ask what clutch the halfcut is and only get it if it matches with mine?
i'll give the place a call tomorrow and i'll let you guys know which integra it is...
u can always do a hydro conversion or cable conversion... just use the pedals and gear from the half cut.. i dont see what the big problem is??
Baopham
24-10-2004, 08:41 PM
yes they come from the old integras.. i was about to get one but the wiring was different and it was a cable clutch... the cable clutch would mean its the generation 1 B16A, thus should only be 118kw...
bubblecivic
24-10-2004, 08:54 PM
but can't you just use the cable clutch from the halfcut then?
so the actual conversion would be harder then say a b16a from a Civic SiR or CRX?
Baopham
24-10-2004, 08:59 PM
yea thats the reason why i didnt buy that integra half cut.. it was cable clutch and the wiring was all wierd.. it woulda just been too hard to convert.. i suggest u just wait for a b16a generation 2 if u plan on putting an engine into ur hydro clutch car..
bubblecivic
24-10-2004, 10:39 PM
so all breeze are definitely hydro clutch?
aznsiko
24-10-2004, 11:24 PM
i came across this ad from a jap import site...
"Honda B16A Vtec Integra half cut, low k's, 100% complete, will sell with lights and panels as per pics at a no cost bonus!"
anyway, so how many kw is this engine compared to b16s from crx's and sir civics?
also i did a search and there was this question about cable/hydro clutch and was wondering if this is a major problem when doing a conversion? does it matter if your using the gearbox from the halfcut aswell?
hey man would u happen to remember.. the ad u saw?? wat company or wat it was called.. cos im a wanting a B18C7 motor... for my G2 Teg..-
SiR JDM
25-10-2004, 04:06 AM
so all breeze are definitely hydro clutch? No, EGs are hydrolic as far as i know?
And as far as i know the DOHC Vtec Integra (LS) uses the b16a *one* (not b16aII found in Civic SIR/Ek Vtir and Del Sol, the same as the EF9 SIR)
160hp/118 kw b16a engine with cable tranny
bubblecivic
25-10-2004, 08:09 AM
hey aznsiko - its not a b18c engine, its a b16a from early integras.
[[d a n n y]]
25-10-2004, 08:55 AM
dont get the cable tranny..
gonna give u lot of headaches...
just get the hydro from the start
bennjamin
25-10-2004, 10:46 AM
]']dont get the cable tranny..
gonna give u lot of headaches...
just get the hydro from the start
Why is this , oh wise one ? :rolleyes:
tinkerbell
25-10-2004, 11:34 AM
if you have a hydro clutch in your car you should get a hydro clutch front cut.
No, EGs are hydrolic as far as i know?
And as far as i know the DOHC Vtec Integra (LS) uses the b16a *one* (not b16aII found in Civic SIR/Ek Vtir and Del Sol, the same as the EF9 SIR)
160hp/118 kw b16a engine with cable tranny
newer jdm da6 integra xsi powered by b16a gen 2 (170hp)
tinkerbell
25-10-2004, 04:22 PM
yes.
118kw or 125kw (late 92 only)
that is what i said :wave:
SiR JDM
25-10-2004, 04:27 PM
Oh.... my bad then didn't kno
thx eg5+tinkerbell =D
if you have a hydro clutch in your car you should get a hydro clutch front cut.
i want to know why everyone says thing, _please_ explain.
tinkerbell
25-10-2004, 09:08 PM
yes.
well, if you car is already fitted with a cable tranny, then it already has a cable clutch actuator.
of it is a hydro - then it has a master cylinder and hydraulic clutch lines.
if you try to put a cable actuated tranny in a hydro tranny car - you have to convert it to cable actuation...
pain in the arse.
if you try to put a hydraulically actuated tranny in a cable tranny car - you have to convert it to hydraulic lines and master cylinder actuation...
pain in the arse.
so to save yourself a pain in the arse, match your cars tranny to the halfcut/transmission that you are obtaining...
simple :)
Setanta
25-10-2004, 11:21 PM
Hey Tink - it wasn't just the XSi 'teg that got the B16A; there was a RSi 'teg with the B16A as well. Likewise both the EF8 and EF9 (as was mentioned earlier).
tinkerbell
26-10-2004, 10:53 AM
keep confusing them Setanta - it makes for long threads... ;)
(you will see i provided the link to the Honda website where you can clearly see that there was an Xsi and a Rsi teg. however, as i have never seen or heard of an Rsi teg outside of that website, either as a front cut or whatever, i thought it probably wasnt too important to make it known, however true it might be...)
[[d a n n y]]
26-10-2004, 11:23 AM
keep confusing them Setanta - it makes for long threads... ;)
(you will see i provided the link to the Honda website where you can clearly see that there was an Xsi and a Rsi teg. however, as i have never seen or heard of an Rsi teg outside of that website, either as a front cut or whatever, i thought it probably wasnt too important to make it known, however true it might be...)
that's slack... :D
tinkerbell
26-10-2004, 11:24 AM
yes - i am a slacker :(
yes.
well, if you car is already fitted with a cable tranny, then it already has a cable clutch actuator.
of it is a hydro - then it has a master cylinder and hydraulic clutch lines.
if you try to put a cable actuated tranny in a hydro tranny car - you have to convert it to cable actuation...
pain in the arse.
if you try to put a hydraulically actuated tranny in a cable tranny car - you have to convert it to hydraulic lines and master cylinder actuation...
pain in the arse.
so to save yourself a pain in the arse, match your cars tranny to the halfcut/transmission that you are obtaining...
simple :)
ok so its jus the pain in the ass factor thats stopping u, nothing physical. thanks for clearing that up.
Kawasaki
26-10-2004, 11:54 AM
Hi guys.
The integra is most likely using a b17a and not a b16a, which doesnt really matter as they are basically the same engine! :P and they have just called it a b16a due to the fact that not many ppl know about b17a's.
silver_screen
26-10-2004, 12:28 PM
wtf i neva even heard of a B17a lol i reckon ur talkin shit
wtf i neva even heard of a B17a lol i reckon ur talkin shit
b17a available in USA and Canada
now who's talking shit?
Setanta
26-10-2004, 12:58 PM
Hi guys.
The integra is most likely using a b17a and not a b16a, which doesnt really matter as they are basically the same engine! :P and they have just called it a b16a due to the fact that not many ppl know about b17a's.
Ummm... might be nice if you went back and did some research...
USDM 'tegs came with the B17 sure...
BUT
the JDM DA series 'tegs came out with a B16A and S1 tranny in their top models. No-one is talking about the USDM varient.
At the risk of being rude, get your facts straight!
BTW - the USDM B17 is not "basically the same engine" as a B16A - just ask any Yank that bemoans how crap a motor it is :D
Setanta
26-10-2004, 01:00 PM
BTW - you suck Tinkerbell :D I try to educate and you shoot me down :P
You can make up for it by telling me the part number for a water pump for my B16A ;)
tinkerbell
26-10-2004, 01:37 PM
Hi guys.
The integra is most likely using a b17a and not a b16a, which doesnt really matter as they are basically the same engine! :P and they have just called it a b16a due to the fact that not many ppl know about b17a's.
:thumbdwn: :thumbdwn: :thumbdwn:
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Setanta - just use a 92-95 CRX one.
they always work for me...
Kawasaki
26-10-2004, 02:29 PM
yes i know about the DA teg's but the majority of Jap import sites are american and also offer usdm engines etc
Plz dont shoot me all at once it was merely a *suggestion*(underlined several times) and besides as i said its the same engine...... so i dont know how u can dis me 4 it.
Kawasaki
26-10-2004, 02:39 PM
lets not start a war over it
tinkerbell
26-10-2004, 04:22 PM
PS - it is not the same engine.
PPS - no-one is starting a war, we are correcting the newbie (you)
Kawasaki
26-10-2004, 09:41 PM
PS - i said it was similar if it was the same then it would be called a b16a... :P
and when you compare it 2 a gen1 b16a which is what the DA teg uses it makes the same Hp at the same revs with a bit less compression.
Mate i may not know everything but there is no need to dis the ppl that make this website and forum what it is. I may only be new here and ppl have to start somewhere, try to just educate ppl without the abuse.
Peace out.
bizee_1
27-10-2004, 03:09 AM
newer jdm da6 integra xsi powered by b16a gen 2 (170hp)
So from what EG5 & Tinkerbell have stated. Would that mean that the later model JDM DA6 with B16A Gen2 (170hp) is Hydro boxed ?
~
Ray
Setanta
27-10-2004, 07:35 AM
I don't think Tinkerbell said anywhere that the XSi or RSi DA6/DA8 came with the B16A2 - they only got the cable driven B16A (gen1). I've yet to see a 170ps varient at a importers. If the DAs got it, you'd expect the newer EFs to get it... and they didn't.
tinkerbell
27-10-2004, 10:09 AM
So from what EG5 & Tinkerbell have stated. Would that mean that the later model JDM DA6 with B16A Gen2 (170hp) is Hydro boxed ?
~
Ray
you know - even I am unwilling to speculate on the type of gearbox a DA6 with B16A2 would have.
i would suggest it could be a cable one - but it could also be a hydro one. :confused:
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