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[AROUSN]
18-03-2009, 11:53 PM
Hi Guys, need some help please.

Thinking of getting a set of volk GTC's in 19s.

Anyone know a decent offset without the spaces?
VTECMACHINE
19-03-2009, 01:00 PM
For a DC2R? You gotta be shitting me! 17's absolute max on a DC2R. I personally wouldn't touch anything bigger than a 16".
geeang
19-03-2009, 01:12 PM
When I first bought my car it had 18's and that was a major pain, I had to have such low profile tyres they looked painted on.

You won't be able to run 19's unless you have MAJOR work done to your guards, run major camber, and don't plan on going around corners anytime.
xtan
19-03-2009, 08:19 PM
Roll the guards and get them pumped to be able to hold em in, then need full camber arms. All i know is it struggles to hold 18" already, and if you want great handling stay at 16" at max.
[AROUSN]
19-03-2009, 09:38 PM
Oh sorry people, i forgot to mention i've had a decent amount of work done on the guards, beyond having them rolled.

Edit: Thanks for everyones advice though :)
geeang
19-03-2009, 09:42 PM
And not to mention you'll need to be running like......25 or MAX 30 profile tyres otherwise your speedo won't be reading correctly.

That's like the absolute minimum size.....25 profile.
VTECMACHINE
19-03-2009, 09:50 PM
Also the fact that they are 4 inchs bigger than stock, and 2 inches bigger than legal.

Also, based on pure looks... they will look gay, if the brakes aren't upgraded to something massive.
[AROUSN]
19-03-2009, 10:01 PM
Also the fact that they are 4 inchs bigger than stock, and 2 inches bigger than legal.

Also, based on pure looks... they will look gay, if the brakes aren't upgraded to something massive.

Hehe, going by the mardigras and the economic crisis, gay is in.

Yeah brakes have been upgraded.
IEVAQ8
19-03-2009, 10:08 PM
do it...........gtc's are fuk awsome loking wheel, and everone uses them on the usual and typical nissan gtr or s15 or mazda rx7.............it will be something different on a dc2.................
Q_ball
19-03-2009, 10:11 PM
GTCs are heavy as fk... and in 19's = GG.
[AROUSN]
19-03-2009, 10:30 PM
GTCs are heavy as fk... and in 19's = GG.

Really?

No weights on their spec sheet. You wouldnt know roughly what the weight is per rim for 19s would u?

Whats the difference between their face2 wheels and their older gtc's?
xtan
20-03-2009, 11:31 AM
GTC are not THAT heavy?
Got pictures of your guards?
Q_ball
20-03-2009, 11:39 AM
They'd be about 25 pounds - depending on your width
http://www.upgrademotoring.com/wheels/gt-c.htm

So that would equate to approx 10-12kg per rim.
Pretty heavy on a teg... then you gotta add the weight for the 19" tyres + air...
[AROUSN]
20-03-2009, 05:12 PM
They'd be about 25 pounds - depending on your width
http://www.upgrademotoring.com/wheels/gt-c.htm

So that would equate to approx 10-12kg per rim.
Pretty heavy on a teg... then you gotta add the weight for the 19" tyres + air...

Wow, that is heavy. So around 18kilo's or so per rim.

Are any wheels light in 19s?
VTECMACHINE
21-03-2009, 11:35 AM
hehehe, not really dude. Not light enough for a DC2R.
Lowa
22-03-2009, 09:53 PM
Vault crystals would look awesome on a ITR, you should get them in 20's, that shit would be blinging, plus dont worry about the guys saying its too heavy, just picture how much traction you'll get off the line!
VTECMACHINE
22-03-2009, 11:30 PM
What about Dolces in 20", they would be awesome. People might think you are cool.

Just make sure you have heaps of -ve camber, cos you'll pick up heaps of chicks.
Lowa
23-03-2009, 09:53 AM
Damn right, but dont forget that Dolce's are considered the brake boilers of the blinging/sexspec community, better find a mate with a drill press so you can DIY cross drill your rotors for that extra ventilation :thumbsup:
xtan
23-03-2009, 11:55 AM
LOL VIP rims, i'm pretty sure he wants racing rims, like he said.
trism
23-03-2009, 12:24 PM
but 19s arent racing wheels....
VTECMACHINE
23-03-2009, 12:24 PM
but 19s arent racing wheels....

But 20's are!
Lowa
23-03-2009, 01:19 PM
Actually .. if you think about it .. why bother with 19's, just go all out and get 30's, and to keep it on topic, get +48 offset so you can tuck all 4 tyres
[AROUSN]
23-03-2009, 01:27 PM
LOL, smartasses. I dont buy rims that have more cover the space.

Now knowing you can't get any light 19's, obviously i'll be going a size lower.

Plus re: racing wheels. I dont plan to do any proper racing/track work in anything larger then 17's.

I need rims for daily driving.
Lowa
23-03-2009, 01:57 PM
So 19's would be better in daily driving? Wouldnt you want to go smaller for daily? lower costs in tyres, less weight less fuel consumed, ect ect ... running 19's or anything of that monstrosity of a size on a dc2 is just for wank, sorry buddy but thats the cold hard truth
VTECMACHINE
23-03-2009, 02:04 PM
So true... 17's for performance is way to big too! Unless you are packing a worked K20A or something - and need more traction.

If you are going to get big rims that will ruin the entire car... just go out and slam it on 20 inch Dolces! DIY cross drill the rotors too like Lowie said.

Anyways, if you want light rims, and prepared to pay for Volk Racing wheels... the CE28N's are the lightest in the Rays catelouge. Have a look at them...
[AROUSN]
23-03-2009, 09:55 PM
So 19's would be better in daily driving? Wouldnt you want to go smaller for daily? lower costs in tyres, less weight less fuel consumed, ect ect ... running 19's or anything of that monstrosity of a size on a dc2 is just for wank, sorry buddy but thats the cold hard truth

If costing was an issue i wouldnt have spent money putting the 6A12TT in there. Nor would i have spent a penny doing anything else to the car... So where costing might be an issue in upgrading wheel size to some, it isn't to me. The wheels are accomodated for in terms of power, guard modification, suspension, and brakes. I've had extensive work done to the guards to bring them out a good 2inches. Im also running PBR 4piston 343's slotted on the front. And both turbos on there are upgraded TD05's.

Never wanted to go chrome. Hate chrome.

I simply wanted to know info about offsets :)
Lowa
24-03-2009, 11:03 AM
Simply put, if you knew enough info to get a Mitsubishi motor working and installed on a honda, im sure you could use all that brain power to find out about offsets, but none the less i wont go on and start a argument, check this link out for details about offsets http://lmgtfy.com/?q=wheel+offset
Q_ball
24-03-2009, 11:09 AM
So true... 17's for performance is way to big too! Unless you are packing a worked K20A or something - and need more traction.

If you are going to get big rims that will ruin the entire car... just go out and slam it on 20 inch Dolces! DIY cross drill the rotors too like Lowie said.

Anyways, if you want light rims, and prepared to pay for Volk Racing wheels... the CE28N's are the lightest in the Rays catelouge. Have a look at them...
TE37's I believe are the lightest of the lot no?
LowCoupe
24-03-2009, 11:16 AM
You guys need to remember that not everyone is into JDM 15/16's for their Honda's, why the need to be stupid about it!? He's obviously gone pretty far on his DC2 fitting a TT engine and done some decent body mods etc etc, so he wants a bigger wheel to go with the excessive look to suit the other mods.

Maybe check out the CE28N's, they come in a fair range of colours, I had 19x10.5's on my GTR and they were very light, obviously once I put 285's on them they weren't so light, but I'd imagine you'll be going 8/8.5 and something like a 215 tyre so it wouldn't add as much weight!
VTECMACHINE
24-03-2009, 12:20 PM
TE37's I believe are the lightest of the lot no?

Nope... CE28's are.

The way it works... they (Rays) have weighed each rim and named according in a certain size (I think a 15 x 6, or 14" or something - anyways, doesn't matter they use the same size to measure up against the rest in the catelouge).

In what ever size they use to weigh (can't member which one):

CE28's, weigh 2.8 kg's
TE37's weigh 3.7 kg's
RE30's are 30% more rigid than a CE28. (Edit: RE also stands for Rays engineering)

Overall, Rays most popular rim is the CE28, due to the combination of weight and structral rigidity.
[AROUSN]
24-03-2009, 12:36 PM
You guys need to remember that not everyone is into JDM 15/16's for their Honda's, why the need to be stupid about it!? He's obviously gone pretty far on his DC2 fitting a TT engine and done some decent body mods etc etc, so he wants a bigger wheel to go with the excessive look to suit the other mods.

Maybe check out the CE28N's, they come in a fair range of colours, I had 19x10.5's on my GTR and they were very light, obviously once I put 285's on them they weren't so light, but I'd imagine you'll be going 8/8.5 and something like a 215 tyre so it wouldn't add as much weight!

It wouldn't be ozhonda otherwise :)

Thanks though. It will most likely either be 18x9 or 19x9 depending on weight on the front and rear.

Found a pretty neat site too.

http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp
LowCoupe
24-03-2009, 01:19 PM
Speak to the guys at Mu Secret, thats where I got mine from, very helpful and knew all the answers to my questions, I'm sure he'll be able to help you out.

GTC and CE28N only come in a 8/8.5/9.5 in 19's....only 18's come in a 9in width.
Lowa
24-03-2009, 05:02 PM
AFAIK, Most if not all RAYS wheels can be custom made to suit your needs. Just depends on how much of a baller you are
VTECMACHINE
24-03-2009, 09:22 PM
AFAIK, Rays wheels can only be customised with offset, and colour. Sizing however, I am unsure of. I do vaugely member reading that they don't, because some width and diameter sizes combinations compromise rigity and structure of the wheel.
[AROUSN]
24-03-2009, 09:58 PM
Speak to the guys at Mu Secret, thats where I got mine from, very helpful and knew all the answers to my questions, I'm sure he'll be able to help you out.

GTC and CE28N only come in a 8/8.5/9.5 in 19's....only 18's come in a 9in width.

Thanks alot for that.

I'll give them a ring :)

Do they have most things in stock?
LowCoupe
25-03-2009, 09:32 AM
Not sure, they had mine in stock and took about 3 days to get to me, otherwise its a long wait usually.....might have to compromise a bit if you don't want to wait.
[AROUSN]
25-03-2009, 02:26 PM
Not sure, they had mine in stock and took about 3 days to get to me, otherwise its a long wait usually.....might have to compromise a bit if you don't want to wait.

Wow, speedy response from Mu secret. 10 week wait though on the wheels.

I think i'll hand him the deposit once we get the measurements right :)

Thanks heaps dude!
LowCoupe
25-03-2009, 02:57 PM
No worries, they are one place I'm happy to recommend, I was very happy with their help, service and speedy delivery, unlike 98% of other automotive shops!
T-onedc2
26-03-2009, 01:02 PM
If it helps at all, 16x7 wheels in +44 offset fit in the stock guards just snugly. From this I can also tell you that a 7in wide rim with a +44 offset will leave about a 6-8mm space between the wheel and strut, depending on the sidewall of the tires this may be even less.
VTECMACHINE
26-03-2009, 01:08 PM
16 x 7 +38 fit perfectly. Mine are 16 x 7 +40, and I wish I went for +38 now.
IEVAQ8
26-03-2009, 01:35 PM
16 x 7 +38 fit perfectly. Mine are 16 x 7 +40, and I wish I went for +38 now.

lipped rear guards or not???
LowCoupe
26-03-2009, 03:26 PM
16 x 7 +38 fit perfectly. Mine are 16 x 7 +40, and I wish I went for +38 now.

Wouldn't they only sit in 2mm more, would it make that much of a difference?

Have you got your rear gaurds rolled, do the 7's +38 fit without rolling or is that why you'd prefer the +40's?

Are stock DC2 15's +40 or +42?