Tested- 2005 Integra Type S

[gundam]

First of all, I'm a little disappointed at the lack of enthusiasm that this group has shown to the new Type S. Maybe it's exactly the way the PR people described it- that the people who are interested in the Type S would be more restrained and (relatively) conservative than Type R owners, and therefore less likely to be vocal about the car...

Anyway, after a brief drive of the car, I am very impressed with the Type S. And I have to say the orange that Honda had in the Sydney motor Show did the car no justice. The car looks so much better in red, blue, titanium... any color but orange. Honda missed the boat big time- Mazda and Holden had a similar metallic orange almost 3 years ago- what was popular then will not necessary sell now... Especially since this new model is a lot less aggressively styled and thus not as nice with these sort of look-at-me color.

But I do like the little duck tail rear spoiler- goes very well on cars like Integra and Euro- sporty yet elegant. You could tell I am not a big fan of the huge ironing board/picnic table/takeaway hanger type of spoilers.

Interior is the same affair with the previous Type R. New additions are the leather seat, which came from the previous Luxury model with side airbags. Comfy, but nothing to write home about. More noteworthy is the new double-DIN head unit. Made by Panasonic, 6 disc mp3 with AUX in (three cheers from i-POD owners). This head unit is shared by the 05 CRVs, and also many of the Japanese domestic model, with equalizer display and very user friendly. Sounds good with the factory magnets, imagine what it’ll be like with real speakers! And a big thank you to the product development guy who decided not to integrate the stereo with the aircon like the Euro and Falcon. Give the Chinatown boyz a lot more freedom to sik it up.

But it is only me who wants a button for tilt adjustment for the sunroof? You would have to tap-tap-tap the open button to tilt the sunroof otherwise it’ll start sliding backwards. I found myself keep looking up while driving to see how far I’ve tilted the roof- very dangerous if the driver was flooring the throttle….

Which you’ll have to do to get the most out of the engine. Most of the quoted 154kw seems having a cuppa in the engine bay when the revs is below 3000rpm. But when you get pass 4000rpm things starts to get interesting- engine comes to life with a roar from the exhaust. One of the best exhaust note I’ve hear from factory stock Honda- purring loud enough to let you know that the engine is running while idle, sporty grunt while cruising, and a roar when you’re keen…. Not as full on as the old first gen Type Rs- since the interior is much quieter with improved sound proofing, but no one will mistaken this car for anything but a sports car. And the short gear ratio of the short throw transmission makes the short shifts fun, as per the Honda tradition of revving the daylight out of the engine. More that enough grunt and noise to pin you back and extract complains from your better half.

To be complete honest, I don’t think the new suspension setup is better that the Type R. Sure the new 17 inch alloys looks good, and Honda claims that suspension is X% stiffer/cooler/more expensive to manufacture. But in reality it’s a compromise between comfort and sports- body roll is more pronounced than any 2 doors Honda sports car that I’ve driven. Didn’t inspire me to tackle corners in ridiculous speed, as I was concern that the back end might decide to overtake the front on those brand new tyres. But then the ride comfort on the Type S is something a Type R owner can only dream about- especially on the highways, where the Type S is really in its element. No more feeling every single bump, lines and roadkills on the road. Nevertheless the car created such an atmosphere and aura of a sports car that many of the new car buyers are looking for, and I dare say the real sports owners with drop the car down another inch or so for a better stance and handling anyway.

Dealers are quoting $45500 on the road, and since it is only the second week on sale, there should be a reasonable deal/stock on the market. The only worry I have is the insurance cost, since to the insurance company this is still a very much a “Type R” car and will quote premium as such. If only they understand the true grand tourer nature of the car.

[vtir22]

Nice write up :) This is the car they should have bought into Australia in teh first place - Instead of hosing down the Type R name with a kitted up VTi-R (or Type S).

oh and you shouldn't be doing anything other than concentrating when flooring any car let along play with the sunroof :D

[|N|]

pretty nice review... heaps of OH ppl dun like the type S ... but i love it.... i htink its suit aus condition better... i just llove it... its more of a comfy+performance.... only that i couldnt affort it...

[toE]

interesting write-up. :)

[tekling]

great read !!

[maling]

Nice write up :) This is the car they should have bought into Australia in teh first place - Instead of hosing down the Type R name with a kitted up VTi-R (or Type S).

oh and you shouldn't be doing anything other than concentrating when flooring any car let along play with the sunroof :D

Actually the Aus DC5R is the DC5 Type S + LSD. Honda Australia disgraced the Type R badge.

DC2 came in GSI + VTi-R + Type R here in Aus.

just wanted to clear that up. :honda:

The new DC5 Type S is more show than performance. Personally it looks nice, but too tame for me though.

[wynode]

Very nice write up........if only we had more like these.

[vtir22]

Yes our AUDM DC5R is basically the American RSX Type S with JDM TypeR gearbox, LSD, Bodykit and recaros. Missing out on the 17's, brembo brakes, 220hp engine and slightly different suspension components.

Does the Type S keep the JDM Type R gearbox and LSD? I guess not right?

[gundam]

Rather than LSD (which I doubt the type S has), I really miss the TCS on my Euro- bit hard to do a good launch on the type S as too little rev gives you jacks, too much gives you a very nasty case of burning rubber....

[gundam]

Thanks for all the comments Gents- greatly appreciated.

[spoondc2]

For me, i wouldn't consider Type-S at all, for the price of $45000, i wouldn't pay for a Type-S, it is just a rip off, i wouldn't care how the type-s suit the aus road conditions, if this is the case, why ppl get a Sti instead of a WRX? Why a GTR rather than a GTS-T? Why HSV rather than a Holden? If they are all in the same price range? So $45000 for a Type-R and a Type-S, what will you choose?

I think Honda Australia will close down if the DC2 Type-R was replace by some kind of DC2 Type-S many years ago

[Type R Positive]

A great write up - a great read. I have always been a fan of the DC2R, but never the DC5. They are just too expensive. The Euro is honda's hottest selling car at the moment, I think they want the Integra to be more like it. It would never work at that price.

[gundam]

Too right about the Euro being hot selling- when I brought mine I was so proud, thinking I am driving a great sports sedan for a great price.

Now I feel as though I am driving a Camry- counting the number of Euros that I can see as I drive from home to work....

I counted 7 Euros on the drive to work this morning....

To be frank, if the Integra's facelift is a dramatic as the per the google eyed WRX to the current model, there would be a long long waiting list now for the Type S for the current price. The problem really is that the new car doesn't look that much different to the old....

But then I guess I'll be the only Type S on the road... Hmmm....

[IRI]

I dont get how people are calling it 'tame'. How many car companies can produce 154KW from 2L 4 cyl? VX commo has about the same from a 3.8V6, Lexus IS300 as 154KW from a 3L in line Six (2JZ) which costs around $70k with no more features then the Type S.....not tame at all IMO. I think this will be a hot seller for Honda. If had the cash I wouldn't hesitate to take one of these over a REX or HSV. Though I must admit, it is a damn shame they killed of the Type R for this....:(

[Type R Positive]

I don't think it is tame, people are going to mod it anyway!

[TeMp]

Too right about the Euro being hot selling- when I brought mine I was so proud, thinking I am driving a great sports sedan for a great price.

Now I feel as though I am driving a Camry- counting the number of Euros that I can see as I drive from home to work....

I counted 7 Euros on the drive to work this morning....



Fully agree with this... but i think euro with the oem kit make the car stand out a bit more from "rest of the euros"

But the type s has definitely soften up compared to the audm type r... all these creature comforts

[Catcha]

the Type R is a great car from what i have been told, as mentioned above 45g on road is a bit steep even steeper whent he type R were 50g driveaway, in my opinion want something fast start with something fast, I see japananese do up type r with aftermarekt turbos ???? why ? its still a FWD.....
And i don't know why people would want to do up a Euro to sporting specs chip cams, that's extreme...if i had one i would do mags lower it and well exhaust maybe a Big maybe. it's a luxury sedan and will never and should never be compare to a WRX cause it can't they are two totally different cars.
The Type S i guess is aimed at people wanting some luxury features and a sporty look.......but it ain't going to be a WRX eater...however much you spend on it...................

[BF]

Nice write up =)

It will be interesting to see how the type s sells... and to which market it sells...

[gundam]

BTW, if someone wants the last Type R, feel free to pop down to your local dealer and ask for a great deal. There are still a handful in dealer stock, and discounts them to a better price than a new Type S.

[Weq]

bring on the turbo kits!

[maling]

I dont get how people are calling it 'tame'. How many car companies can produce 154KW from 2L 4 cyl? VX commo has about the same from a 3.8V6, Lexus IS300 as 154KW from a 3L in line Six (2JZ) which costs around $70k with no more features then the Type S.....not tame at all IMO. I think this will be a hot seller for Honda. If had the cash I wouldn't hesitate to take one of these over a REX or HSV. Though I must admit, it is a damn shame they killed of the Type R for this....:(

Within the honda family The Type S is "Tame".

more luxury than performance :honda:

[sangsational]

...The Type S i guess is aimed at people wanting some luxury features and a sporty look.......but it ain't going to be a WRX eater...however much you spend on it...................

sorry, u are wrong.

the dc5r with k20a (thats the audm dc5 integra type r) can take wrx's with cai, exhaust and hondata ecu on the straight. with upgraded suspension it can take wrx's in the mountain. if you spend your money right, a dc5r will take wrx's. obviously not with the same amount of money spent on a wrx in the right way, but nevertheless your comment is incorrect because it won't be long before hondata ecu's are released for the k20z (type s engine)

[R123]

BTW, if someone wants the last Type R, feel free to pop down to your local dealer and ask for a great deal. There are still a handful in dealer stock, and discounts them to a better price than a new Type S.

sorry to be picky.. but i jz wana make sure that Type R fans wont fell from high to low when they get told by the dealers , there are NO type Rs in stock.. (jz to make sure) i am living in Sydney metro.. last month i know there are a blue 1 in ACT honda.. and jz last week i been told da Macarthur honda still having a Red 1.. and also, 1 WHITE is sitting in one CLUB which located at cabramatta.. so yeah... better b quick if ne of u wana get ur hand on it...

also... i m thinking ppl can always modify the type S, i ve seen a few done up integra standards around... mayb the only pros is.. the price of the type S.. not cheap at all... :o

[gundam]

Yup- that's the "handful" i'm referring to. Total of 3 in NSW. You've been looking around, haven't you?

[oshuyi]

sorry, u are wrong.

the dc5r with k20a (thats the audm dc5 integra type r) can take wrx's with cai, exhaust and hondata ecu on the straight. with upgraded suspension it can take wrx's in the mountain. if you spend your money right, a dc5r will take wrx's. obviously not with the same amount of money spent on a wrx in the right way, but nevertheless your comment is incorrect because it won't be long before hondata ecu's are released for the k20z (type s engine)


how much would an hondata ecu cost?

[sangsational]

james from hondata australia does an install and tune for compatible k20a ecu for around $2500 i think.

[davidd]

Either way, With the weight gain of the new type s, it will be no match for a type R.... So the R owners have nothing to be scared about!

As Sang said, dc5r's can easily take on wrx's... I have many times. Its only really the launch that they ever get us on. power from first gear vtec on beats them all the way past 180km/h

[JINRAI]

Either way, With the weight gain of the new type s, it will be no match for a type R.... So the R owners have nothing to be scared about!

As Sang said, dc5r's can easily take on wrx's... I have many times. Its only really the launch that they ever get us on. power from first gear vtec on beats them all the way past 180km/h

don't know bout that...the 1st gear isn't the strongest in my opinion

well gundam...if you do buy a type-s i got dibs on the wheels...heh

[sangsational]

don't know bout that...the 1st gear isn't the strongest in my opinion

well gundam...if you do buy a type-s i got dibs on the wheels...heh

peak power in first gear actually. its just the low revs. see davidd has engine mount inserts so he has no wheel hop and limited wheel spin if he launches right. there's a guy i know who had just these inserts and an injen cold air intake and did 14.3 down the strip.

its getting past the low revs and keeping the car above 6k rpm. u just gotta know how to drive. i'm still practising my flat shifting. i think i need to upgrade my gearbox fluid for faster shifts.

[monstaR]

Either way, With the weight gain of the new type s, it will be no match for a type R.... So the R owners have nothing to be scared about!

As Sang said, dc5r's can easily take on wrx's... I have many times. Its only really the launch that they ever get us on. power from first gear vtec on beats them all the way past 180km/h


If its a rolling start....dc5 will definitely kick the rex........ :D

[aaronng]

Just checked Honda Aus website on the Type S. Here's a quote:
"The driver's cockpit features state-of-the-art metallic-face gauges with "zero-angle" pointers. In recognition of Honda's race bred technology, these needles point down to six o'clock when at rest, as is the case in F1 race cars."

Don't F1 cars use LEDs for tacho and digital readout for speedo?

[Type R Positive]

Just checked Honda Aus website on the Type S. Here's a quote:
"The driver's cockpit features state-of-the-art metallic-face gauges with "zero-angle" pointers. In recognition of Honda's race bred technology, these needles point down to six o'clock when at rest, as is the case in F1 race cars."

Don't F1 cars use LEDs for tacho and digital readout for speedo? I might have to look harder at Jensen's F1 and see if he has a 5" tacho with shift light mounted on the front coweling. It sounds nice and gimmicky though!

[Catcha]

sorry, u are wrong.

the dc5r with k20a (thats the audm dc5 integra type r) can take wrx's with cai, exhaust and hondata ecu on the straight. with upgraded suspension it can take wrx's in the mountain. if you spend your money right, a dc5r will take wrx's. obviously not with the same amount of money spent on a wrx in the right way, but nevertheless your comment is incorrect because it won't be long before hondata ecu's are released for the k20z (type s engine)

Why are we talking modified??? so if the type R didn't have the cai, exhaust and hondata ecu on the straight. It can't take on a Stock Rex ????
Who races in mountains ? what blue mountains ??????
I race at the Drags and tracks back then. Call responsible racing
So you saying it cost more to do the same mods to the Type R than a WRX, probably be the same, the money people save buying a WRX Vs a Type R would be est 13g on WRX mods will eat most cars except a EVO. really silly to compare apples to oranges but if you want we can go on all day. At the end of the day its who has the fattest income to support the mods and make it go fast.

[jay-bee'z]

I like the new Type-S....nice mix of luxury & sports....just what im after

something to save up for i guess :)

[Kawasaki]

Gah stupid honda Australia!!! Give us a REAL TYPE R. Im so sick of these type S heaps and watered down type R's! wheres the civic type r? wheres the euro type r? wheres the teg type r? am i ment to live the rest of my young life grasping to a dc2?!!

[bigteethygrin]

Yeah I dont think its fair to say we dont like the Type S because it Tame .. obviously it does put out alot of power.. its just that when you can clearly see the potential of this car in its Type R format there really is no comparison and no point trying to prove otherwise. The gap between the two is so large that it's understandable why the Type S would wear the brunt of the unsatisfied honda public.

[7th Gen]

http://carsguide.news.com.au/news/story_page/0,8269,11137479%255E21822,00.html

interesting review, if we knew the project leader was here in Aus, i guess most of you would have gone to pay him out and tell him his car wasn't good enough? :D

there was another review in last sundays telegraph as well

[enoch]

thats funny...
honda wants to move away from the racing scene but says a sports car boom is coming...=S

[panda[cRx]]

I see japananese do up type r with aftermarekt turbos ???? why ? its still a FWD.....


dumbest thing i heard all day....um week, nah make it all year :thumbdwn:

[sangsational]

Why are we talking modified??? so if the type R didn't have the cai, exhaust and hondata ecu on the straight. It can't take on a Stock Rex ????
Who races in mountains ? what blue mountains ??????
I race at the Drags and tracks back then. Call responsible racing
So you saying it cost more to do the same mods to the Type R than a WRX, probably be the same, the money people save buying a WRX Vs a Type R would be est 13g on WRX mods will eat most cars except a EVO. really silly to compare apples to oranges but if you want we can go on all day. At the end of the day its who has the fattest income to support the mods and make it go fast.

as i said, the same amount of money spent on a rex will make it faster than a type r. all i was saying was that u were wrong in your comment which was... "...it ain't going to be a WRX eater...however much you spend on it..................."

now THAT is wrong. and u can't dispute it.

also, "the mountains" is an analogy for twisty turns, as you would find on "the track".

[CivicOnBoost]

WRX's are over rated to the shithouse to put it quite frankly, rolling start i have killed over 10 in a straight line, add some corners into this and wrx will be nowhere to be seen. My DC5R is completely stock and i have beaten 180sx turbo's, s13 silvias both SR20DET and RB20T, numerous V8 commodores from VP-VX models (VT V8 ute this morning on the way to work) R32 Golf, r32 and r33 GTS-T's and the list goes on.

Catcha If you think a wrx will beat a DC5R then i would love to pull up next to you rolling start or give you a run around a track. We would see how good your WRX is then.

No doubt everyone will call bullshit but these are just a few of the cars that their owners have had the smile wiped off there face when they see the tail lights of my R :rolleyes:

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[CivicOnBoost]

Oh and on the topic of the new type s, i got my dc5r serviced yesterday and checked out the type s while i was at Gold Coast Honda.

I like the head unit and the 17" rims and think they would look good on my R but other than that i would much rather keep my Type R.

[JINRAI]

WRX's are over rated to the shithouse to put it quite frankly, rolling start i have killed over 10 in a straight line, add some corners into this and wrx will be nowhere to be seen. My DC5R is completely stock and i have beaten 180sx turbo's, s13 silvias both SR20DET and RB20T, numerous V8 commodores from VP-VX models (VT V8 ute this morning on the way to work) R32 Golf, r32 and r33 GTS-T's and the list goes on.

Catcha If you think a wrx will beat a DC5R then i would love to pull up next to you rolling start or give you a run around a track. We would see how good your WRX is then.

No doubt everyone will call bullshit but these are just a few of the cars that their owners have had the smile wiped off there face when they see the tail lights of my R :rolleyes:

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thats confidence for you :thumbsup:

[Catcha]

']dumbest thing i heard all day....um week, nah make it all year :thumbdwn:

Sad but true :D

[sub11z]

WRX's are over rated to the shithouse to put it quite frankly, rolling start i have killed over 10 in a straight line, add some corners into this and wrx will be nowhere to be seen. My DC5R is completely stock and i have beaten 180sx turbo's, s13 silvias both SR20DET and RB20T, numerous V8 commodores from VP-VX models (VT V8 ute this morning on the way to work) R32 Golf, r32 and r33 GTS-T's and the list goes on.

Catcha If you think a wrx will beat a DC5R then i would love to pull up next to you rolling start or give you a run around a track. We would see how good your WRX is then.

No doubt everyone will call bullshit but these are just a few of the cars that their owners have had the smile wiped off there face when they see the tail lights of my R :rolleyes:

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hahahahahaha stop dreaming, it must be the HSC has just finish.

[hondaslayer]

WRX's are over rated to the shithouse to put it quite frankly, rolling start i have killed over 10 in a straight line, add some corners into this and wrx will be nowhere to be seen. My DC5R is completely stock and i have beaten 180sx turbo's, s13 silvias both SR20DET and RB20T, numerous V8 commodores from VP-VX models (VT V8 ute this morning on the way to work) R32 Golf, r32 and r33 GTS-T's and the list goes on.

Catcha If you think a wrx will beat a DC5R then i would love to pull up next to you rolling start or give you a run around a track. We would see how good your WRX is then.

No doubt everyone will call bullshit but these are just a few of the cars that their owners have had the smile wiped off there face when they see the tail lights of my R :rolleyes:

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LOl get your hand off it civiconboost.Your just embarrasing your fellow honda owners.You cant count racing past parked cars in your fully sic red civic as beating anyone :rolleyes:

[sangsational]

LOl get your hand off it civiconboost.Your just embarrasing your fellow honda owners.You cant count racing past parked cars in your fully sic red civic as beating anyone :rolleyes:

id have to agree with them tony. most of those kills, the other driver im sure wasn't trying. dc5r is not a rocketship. u could probably beat most of those cars on the twisties, but no way in a straight line. v8 would destroy dc5r with a rolling start.

i had a run with my friend's brother's xr6 turbo and i got 3 car lengths on him off the start but he ate that away in a matter of second. then a v8 commodore screamed right up his ass out of nowhere.

[CivicOnBoost]

Lol get my hand off it umm ok then :rolleyes: ........ Considering i have owned two current model integra type R's and beat the majority of those cars in both of my integras i am dreaming. **** you ppl make me laugh. :D

Oh and by the way i killed an Evo 8 rolling start from 50kph to 140kph but that would be bullshit too.... All of the cars i have mentioned have been in basically stock form (with the exception of maybe exhaust and front mount on some of the turbo cars)

Think about it, a wrx is only 0.5secs quicker down the quarter than a dc5r purely beacuse of the 4wd advantage off the line!

Sang call bs all you like but have a chat to Mike with the NSX about our little run up to natural arch. Also look at dave's quarter time of 14.5 with just engine mounts and intake, doesn't that say something???? ;)

DC5R have the worst first gear for racing its just so hard to launch (although dial the revs up to about 5000rpm and feather the clutch out its not to bad), rolling start at 6000rpm 2nd gear and you would be surprised what you can chop.

Anyway everyone on here knows best because they all own DC5R integras and must know better than me :thumbdwn:

[sangsational]

Sang call bs all you like but have a chat to Mike with the NSX about our little run up to natural arch. Also look at dave's quarter time of 14.5 with just engine mounts and intake, doesn't that say something???? ;)


u dont have engine mounts

[coladuna]

I think DC5 Integra looks ugly (especially the rear).
Type-R looks much better but Type-S and Luxury model just doesn't do it for me as a sports car. $45K for Type-S is a joke. I'd probably just take a MY05 WRX without hesitation considering that insurance for both cars will be expensive anyway. I can't see Honda Australia selling too many of these any time soon.

[Catcha]

Oh and by the way i killed an Evo 8 rolling start from 50kph to 140kph
:thumbdwn:

If had an Evo 8, I wouldn't bother running a Type R of any sort, I'll be chasing Sti's and HSV, wasting fuel in my opinion, like you running lancers ? whats the fun in that ?

We had a some guy buy a Honda Civic hatch with a Type R engine transplanted into it with pushing the factory 141kw, now with a light body shell like that you would assume it would be fast but not fast enough to beat a MY99 WRX, didn't lose by a huge margin but still lost, and it was done over and over against each other, and they are mates with each other.........go figure ?

[hondaslayer]

u dont have engine mounts

Now why would he let the truth get in the way of a good story? ;)

[sangsational]

I think DC5 Integra looks ugly (especially the rear).
Type-R looks much better but Type-S and Luxury model just doesn't do it for me as a sports car. $45K for Type-S is a joke. I'd probably just take a MY05 WRX without hesitation considering that insurance for both cars will be expensive anyway. I can't see Honda Australia selling too many of these any time soon.

spose u could kit up the type s. looks pretty bland in standard form. for me, turning 23yr old male, rating 2 with no accident history, insurance for wrx is 3 times what i would be paying if my insurance for my type r was in my name :D

[SiNH]

If had an Evo 8, I wouldn't bother running a Type R of any sort, I'll be chasing Sti's and HSV, wasting fuel in my opinion, like you running lancers ? whats the fun in that ?

We had a some guy buy a Honda Civic hatch with a Type R engine transplanted into it with pushing the factory 141kw, now with a light body shell like that you would assume it would be fast but not fast enough to beat a MY99 WRX, didn't lose by a huge margin but still lost, and it was done over and over against each other, and they are mates with each other.........go figure ?


That is so true, as my signatures says:

You might be winning, but you are the ONLY one thats racing.

I think there are some truths in that. Rolling start? sneaking up on a guy from behind then flooring the pedal doing a fly-by and expecting the other dude to plant it to plant it and catch up to you isnt a rolling, thats a CHEAT.

The thing about traffic light GP is that when the car next to you revs, you rev back and nods, you know its on! the drag is acknowledge by both parties.

Unless you organise a rolling start at a stand still at the lights, and both being in the same gear instead of one dude cruising in 5 and you hammering it in 3rd on a roll, to me that isnt a fair drag and boasting about the race to your friends how you beat a Maclaren F1 on a roll makes you no hero. Then again its not wether you win or lose a race, its how you bullshit to your friends afterwards.

Its true though, as Catcha stated,.. a EVO8 driver wouldnt even waste his/her petrol on a DC5, DC2 however is more of a challenge.

[IRI]

WRX's are over rated to the shithouse to put it quite frankly, rolling start i have killed over 10 in a straight line, add some corners into this and wrx will be nowhere to be seen. My DC5R is completely stock and i have beaten 180sx turbo's, s13 silvias both SR20DET and RB20T, numerous V8 commodores from VP-VX models (VT V8 ute this morning on the way to work) R32 Golf, r32 and r33 GTS-T's and the list goes on.

Catcha If you think a wrx will beat a DC5R then i would love to pull up next to you rolling start or give you a run around a track. We would see how good your WRX is then.

No doubt everyone will call bullshit but these are just a few of the cars that their owners have had the smile wiped off there face when they see the tail lights of my R :rolleyes:

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THAT is one MAGICAL DC5R :!:
R32 Golf IS an absolute rocketship! It would tear doors of most HIPO cars that I can think of....

[SiNH]

THAT is one MAGICAL DC5R :!:
R32 Golf IS an absolute rocketship! It would tear doors of most HIPO cars that I can think of....


You know I would trade my rex for that Golf R32!

[gelo]

That is so true, as my signatures says:

You might be winning, but you are the ONLY one thats racing.

I think there are some truths in that. Rolling start? sneaking up on a guy from behind then flooring the pedal doing a fly-by and expecting the other dude to plant it to plant it and catch up to you isnt a rolling, thats a CHEAT.

The thing about traffic light GP is that when the car next to you revs, you rev back and nods, you know its on! the drag is acknowledge by both parties.

Unless you organise a rolling start at a stand still at the lights, and both being in the same gear instead of one dude cruising in 5 and you hammering it in 3rd on a roll, to me that isnt a fair drag and boasting about the race to your friends how you beat a Maclaren F1 on a roll makes you no hero. Then again its not wether you win or lose a race, its how you bullshit to your friends afterwards.

Its true though, as Catcha stated,.. a EVO8 driver wouldnt even waste his/her petrol on a DC5, DC2 however is more of a challenge.


i fully agree

[monstaR]

I think the new type s will be nice after i have read the article. I cannot imaginge it with jdm dc5r rims and body kit from mugen.... will look pretty stealth. Are they still running the same suspenision set up? if so will a set of tien coil overs from a dc5r fit....Hence this may be a car to consider.... a true car that encompasses the honda spirit. Come on guys, lets welcome the new type S............ :D

[CivicOnBoost]

Engine mounts are only going to help in a full stop start race as per at a raceway, on the street u can get the car rolling slightly prior to the launch which makes it much easier to get the car off the line without spinning the wheels.

For all you ppl doubting the Evo 8 kill here are the specs

Max. output (EEC net) kW (PS)/rpm: 195 (265) @ 6,500
Max. torque (EEC net) N-m (kg-m)/rpm: 355 (36.2) @ 3,500
Max. speed km/h: 245
Acceleration (0–100 km/h) sec.: 6.1
Acceleration (0–400m) sec.: 14.5

The Evo 8 is alot quicker to 100kph due to the 4wd advantage off the line, over 1sec however the quarter mile time is only about 0.5secs quicker than a DC5R. Now how hard is it to figure out that rolling start it is possible to beat a Evo 8.

Criticise me all you want but the facts are there plain and simple.

Evo 8's are the slowest of the Evo's released !!!!!!!!

[JINRAI]

I'd take the EVO 7 anytime over the DC5

[oshuyi]

according to the latest motor magz the type-s does 0-100km in 7.46s and they say it's faster than the type-r 7.75sec.
that's a bit odd i thought the type-r does 0-100km in 6.93sec

[hondaslayer]

according to the latest motor magz the type-s does 0-100km in 7.46s and they say it's faster than the type-r 7.75sec.
that's a bit odd i thought the type-r does 0-100km in 6.93sec

Dont believe everything that they print in the car mags.
Like the EVO 8.Factory figures are very underated.They have close to 220kw do low 5's 0-100 and low 13 sec qtr miles.

[sangsational]

Dont believe everything that they print in the car mags.
Like the EVO 8.Factory figures are very underated.They have close to 220kw do low 5's 0-100 and low 13 sec qtr miles.

out of curiousity, which car are u talking about, the type s or type r? and what's ur source of information? i hope u're talking about the JDM type r.

[Catcha]

out of curiousity, which car are u talking about, the type s or type r? and what's ur source of information? i hope u're talking about the JDM type r.

Talking about a mitsubishi EVO 8, speed magazine just tested both STI and EVO 8 and EVO 8 has more power than it clamied on specs that are suppose to be identical to each other,

Who here thinks a Nissan GTR R34 makes the factory claim 206kw ???? they certainly make more but for keeping with japanese regualtions they just put 206kws to make everyone happy but they all know it puts out way more

[Speeder]

Originally Posted by CivicOnBoost
WRX's are over rated to the shithouse to put it quite frankly, rolling start i have killed over 10 in a straight line, add some corners into this and wrx will be nowhere to be seen. My DC5R is completely stock and i have beaten 180sx turbo's, s13 silvias both SR20DET and RB20T, numerous V8 commodores from VP-VX models (VT V8 ute this morning on the way to work) R32 Golf, r32 and r33 GTS-T's and the list goes on.

Catcha If you think a wrx will beat a DC5R then i would love to pull up next to you rolling start or give you a run around a track. We would see how good your WRX is then.

No doubt everyone will call bullshit but these are just a few of the cars that their owners have had the smile wiped off there face when they see the tail lights of my R

you beat a gen3 V8 on a rolling start with a 2L????? i gotta say the V8 driver didnt know you were racing him coz otherwise, he would of left you behind. no offence, i love my dc2r but that is a bit over rated dont you think?? skylines rb25det with a few mods will leave a type r with similar mods behind too. turbo cars with a front mount would be a challenge for a stock dc5r to beat. im not having a go at you and if you have beatin the cars you said you have then congrats. oh and by the way 300+ nm from low as 3.5k verses just under 200nm over 5.5k..........4g93 will leave a k20 behind in a roling start, drags, you might have top range, but by the time the evo is on the gear above yours. stock form, they crack 13s. from sound of thing have you ever driven a turbo car?? your nick says something about boost?......instant boost is sometimes hard to beat especially on a rolling start. im talking about the evo8. and other turbo cars. rolling start with a V8......lets not go there.


Who here thinks a Nissan GTR R34 makes the factory claim 206kw ???? they certainly make more but for keeping with japanese regualtions they just put 206kws to make everyone happy but they all know it puts out way more
haha yeah they are 'restricted' to 206kw, more like 206kwatw:)

[hondaslayer]

Talking about a mitsubishi EVO 8, speed magazine just tested both STI and EVO 8 and EVO 8 has more power than it clamied on specs that are suppose to be identical to each other,

Who here thinks a Nissan GTR R34 makes the factory claim 206kw ???? they certainly make more but for keeping with japanese regualtions they just put 206kws to make everyone happy but they all know it puts out way more

It was never a regulation about keeping it to 206kw.It was a gentlemans agreement.The GTR,Supra,evo's,sti spec c all made more then 206 from factory.

[[[d a n n y]]]

show me sum pics~

[[[d a n n y]]]

It was never a regulation about keeping it to 206kw.It was a gentlemans agreement.The GTR,Supra,evo's,sti spec c all made more then 206 from factory.

ok 206kw just a guideline.

my R makes around 220KW-230KW in stock form

[CivicOnBoost]

The specs were taken straight from the Mitsubishi Australia Website.

Lets see how many ppl on here besides Sang actually own a DC5R???

The GenIII i raced was a SV8 commodore i think they are around 225 or 245kw at the fly, take into consideration the weight of a commodore vs a integra and it is pretty even. I raced it off the lights and he knew i was racing i really dont think he would accelerate to double the speed limit if he wasn't racing do you??? I agree a V8 would kill me once got to like 150kph+ but u have to get the 1800kgs moving first.

I have driven a number of skylines, mates 2000 STi, few v8's, etc. Not saying i would kill every one of the above mentioned models of cars, but i have beat those types of cars and they were racing. What gian do i get out of big noting myself on a public forum??? None what so ever, i posted what i said because it is the truth from my own experiences. Most of the above kills i have had a passenger who will confirm the kills aswell.

Anyway i sick of argueing with all the know it alls on here when none of you have probably ever driven a DC5R let aloned owned 2!!

[IRI]

Why have you owned 2?

[Xenon]

The specs were taken straight from the Mitsubishi Australia Website.

Lets see how many ppl on here besides Sang actually own a DC5R???

The GenIII i raced was a SV8 commodore i think they are around 225 or 245kw at the fly, take into consideration the weight of a commodore vs a integra and it is pretty even. I raced it off the lights and he knew i was racing i really dont think he would accelerate to double the speed limit if he wasn't racing do you??? I agree a V8 would kill me once got to like 150kph+ but u have to get the 1800kgs moving first.

I have driven a number of skylines, mates 2000 STi, few v8's, etc. Not saying i would kill every one of the above mentioned models of cars, but i have beat those types of cars and they were racing. What gian do i get out of big noting myself on a public forum??? None what so ever, i posted what i said because it is the truth from my own experiences. Most of the above kills i have had a passenger who will confirm the kills aswell.

Anyway i sick of argueing with all the know it alls on here when none of you have probably ever driven a DC5R let aloned owned 2!!


Have you run a quarter mile time?? Sometimes road racing results are a bit variable ie dont know if other person pushing it hard, got a bad start or even racing at all... i wonder how many excels and lancer have "chopped" my car ;)

Sometimes im not sure if the other car wants to run so i take off slowly from the lights but the other car guns it. No way i can catch up after that type of start. Not disrespecting your stories though..if its true, then good work!

ps i also own a dc5r

[Speeder]

The GenIII i raced was a SV8 commodore i think they are around 225 or 245kw at the fly, take into consideration the weight of a commodore vs a integra and it is pretty even. I raced it off the lights and he knew i was racing i really dont think he would accelerate to double the speed limit if he wasn't racing do you??? I agree a V8 would kill me once got to like 150kph+ but u have to get the 1800kgs moving first.


mind you the VY SV8 is a lightweight version of the VY SS, hence they are quicker then the SS. its the same story with the 200sx spec s and the spec r :D

[Phantasm]

So this is a thread about the new type s right???? You could have fooled me....
It was a nice original write up, and that head unit sounds good for a stocky.
But to all this dragging argument shit, you really cant say your car is quicker just because youve outdragged a certain car on the road. It just doesnt work like that.
There are way to many other factors involved, and generally it comes back to driver skill and attitude. Many drivers wouldnt know how to or want to drive there car at 100% on public roads, especially from the lights, and probly wouldnt shift down enough on a rolling start. I have beaten alot of cars on the street, but i think of it more as a drag with that driver than the actual car.....

[[[d a n n y]]]

man who gives a shit about going fast in a straight line.

Hondas are made for corners.
not for going straight

[sheepo]

generally speaking i dun like the design for the 2005 integra... i prefer the Dc5 more! =/

[sangsational]

generally speaking i dun like the design for the 2005 integra... i prefer the Dc5 more! =/
its still a dc5. just a facelift. diff headlights, tail lights, bumpers.

i agree with tony about the v8s. that's alot of weight to move from a stand still. like i said, i've taken a few car lengths on my friend's brother's 260kw xr6 turbo, (which i assume is much lighter than a v8? :o ). but by 3rd gear (which is about 100km/h) he had pulled me in. so in a real quarter mile, he wouldve kicked my ass but in 200m, i would've beat him. so what do we use to measure who wins on the street? it's an endless argument.
...but if u ask any racer, any real racer, it don't matter whether u win by an inch, or a mile, winning's winning :!:

all i can say, is hurry and get some more engine mounts in stock, online performance!! :D

[sikcivic]

]']man who gives a shit about going fast in a straight line.



A LOT of people.

[Catcha]

It was never a regulation about keeping it to 206kw.It was a gentlemans agreement.The GTR,Supra,evo's,sti spec c all made more then 206 from factory.


Along those lines but everyone that knows about cars get the jest of it :D

[Catcha]

Lets see how many ppl on here besides Sang actually own a DC5R???



Not many or else they wouldn't of killed off the Type R and S2000, if heaps of people brought them, they would still be avaliable for all to save up our hard earn dollars to buy.

[sangsational]

Not many...

and thats why i love my ride. in brisbane i'll b lucky to see 2 other dc5r's in one day. the base model is just as rare. skylines and wrxs are almost like commodores and lancers in commonality IMO - no offence.

[Catcha]

and thats why i love my ride. in brisbane i'll b lucky to see 2 other dc5r's in one day. the base model is just as rare. skylines and wrxs are almost like commodores and lancers in commonality IMO - no offence.


None taken if the Type R was in a closer pricing bracket to the WRX or 200sx or even cheaper it would be great but since it's like way over the top, it's like the current preludes, damn nice but the price was like way out, even the honda accords, it's only now honda have changed there focus and released something that is medium price full of feature that put upmarket brands to shame.

To be honest if a Type R was at a good second hand value i would buy just for the renowned cornering ability it has 4cyl good on fuel but then again turbos have best of power and economy.
But i think i am getting old so the Euro is more my cup of tea

[sangsational]

None taken if the Type R was in a closer pricing bracket to the WRX or 200sx or even cheaper it would be great but since it's like way over the top, it's like the current preludes, damn nice but the price was like way out, even the honda accords, it's only now honda have changed there focus and released something that is medium price full of feature that put upmarket brands to shame.

To be honest if a Type R was at a good second hand value i would buy just for the renowned cornering ability it has 4cyl good on fuel but then again turbos have best of power and economy.
But i think i am getting old so the Euro is more my cup of tea

actually the type R and s15s were very close in price. when i was shopping for mine it was gonna be one or the other at one stage. i steered towards the R for styling, insurance, space and a more complete package with the recaros, red interior and bodykit. but all of the people i met who were selling Rs and 200sx's said potential buyers had been looking at the other as well. u can pick up a 2nd hand dc5r for about 30k now and an s15 for just under that, so still very close in value.

as for fuel economy.. i get about 425kms outa a tank, i don't know how much a tank is, maybe 50-55L? is that pretty good? that's a combination of vtec'ing 1/4 of the time and shifting up to 6th gear at 60km/h cruising the rest of the time.

cornering wise... :thumbsup: i never ever ever imagined the integra could handle the way it does. it makes the most amateur driver feel like a pro. its so responsive. u can feel the car slipping out and u only have to back off the throttle to let it correct itself. so a driver can really feel the limits of the car. unfortunately, this usually instills a sense of confidence in the driver and when pushing it, it only takes that one random variable... the road integrity, traffic, a surprise of some sort, when ur pushing it and its down the canyon u go. i think that's why so many R's are written off. just my opinion, i may be wrong.

[Catcha]

actually the type R and s15s were very close in price. when i was shopping for mine it was gonna be one or the other at one stage. i steered towards the R for styling, insurance, space and a more complete package with the recaros, red interior and bodykit. but all of the people i met who were selling Rs and 200sx's said potential buyers had been looking at the other as well. u can pick up a 2nd hand dc5r for about 30k now and an s15 for just under that, so still very close in value.

as for fuel economy.. i get about 425kms outa a tank, i don't know how much a tank is, maybe 50-55L? is that pretty good? that's a combination of vtec'ing 1/4 of the time and shifting up to 6th gear at 60km/h cruising the rest of the time.

cornering wise... :thumbsup: i never ever ever imagined the integra could handle the way it does. it makes the most amateur driver feel like a pro. its so responsive. u can feel the car slipping out and u only have to back off the throttle to let it correct itself. so a driver can really feel the limits of the car. unfortunately, this usually instills a sense of confidence in the driver and when pushing it, it only takes that one random variable... the road integrity, traffic, a surprise of some sort, when ur pushing it and its down the canyon u go. i think that's why so many R's are written off. just my opinion, i may be wrong.

that's about 12l/100km it's ok but standard Rex is like 550km for 55 litre tank so about 10l/100km off boost......big difference, and once tuned can get money power and same factory economy, with a GOOD tuner only

[CONAN]

Not many or else they wouldn't of killed off the Type R and S2000, if heaps of people brought them, they would still be avaliable for all to save up our hard earn dollars to buy.

What when did they kll of the S2000??? Didn't they just update it with a new interior/kit/wheels. Or am i getting you wrong.. :rolleyes:

[Catcha]

What when did they kll of the S2000??? Didn't they just update it with a new interior/kit/wheels. Or am i getting you wrong.. :rolleyes:


Don't know really sure somebody mentioned that somewhere here arrghh yes speed magazine "nax gets axed,s2000 is shaky, bye-bye type r .
Hefty sticker price and stiff competition are driving them out. When you have cars like 350z and Mx5se, that are cheaper priced and just as good, why would you want a s2000.

s2000 don;t need a update it need it's priced lowered inline with competition

[[[d a n n y]]]

A LOT of people.

well people who know

what kind of car hondas are dont think that.

[sangsational]

Don't know really sure somebody mentioned that somewhere here arrghh yes speed magazine "nax gets axed,s2000 is shaky, bye-bye type r .
Hefty sticker price and stiff competition are driving them out. When you have cars like 350z and Mx5se, that are cheaper priced and just as good, why would you want a s2000.

s2000 don;t need a update it need it's priced lowered inline with competition

as much as i would love the price of an s2k to drop without my price range, i would have to disagree with u. the price of a car has many more variables that just the performance. you're comparing the styling of an mx5 with an s2k? you're comparing the age of an mx5 with an s2k? you're comparing the world reknown quality of honda to nissan and mazda? ...sure i like nissan and mazda, but honda... cmon. might seem biased but this was my opinion long before i got my R which is the first honda in our family. just compare the service schedules and u will see a clear distinction.

isnt the 350z around the same price as an s2k?

[Catcha]

as much as i would love the price of an s2k to drop without my price range, i would have to disagree with u. the price of a car has many more variables that just the performance. you're comparing the styling of an mx5 with an s2k? you're comparing the age of an mx5 with an s2k? you're comparing the world reknown quality of honda to nissan and mazda? ...sure i like nissan and mazda, but honda... cmon. might seem biased but this was my opinion long before i got my R which is the first honda in our family. just compare the service schedules and u will see a clear distinction.

isnt the 350z around the same price as an s2k?

Funny how you use the mx5 as a comparsion and not the 350z, just quoting from a mag about the competition. Nissan probably would be around the same price range, but honestly if you had the money and had either choice of s2000 or a nissan 350z convertible, i know i would pick the nissan, 1 because it's newer and it's fresh, the S2000 is getting a bit old for it's age even with a face lift and the whole style of the car needs to keep up with treads, If i see a S2000 drive past me i think to myself it's a honda s2000 , see a 350z go past and i be like whooa thats damn nice.
S2000 use to be the trend same with the mx5 back in those years but know there is so much better out there for the same price that you can't overlook at all. just my 2 cents as well as how i see it

[sangsational]

...but honestly if you had the money and had either choice of s2000 or a nissan 350z convertible, i know i would pick the nissan, 1 because it's newer and it's fresh, the S2000 is getting a bit old for it's age even with a face lift and the whole style of the car needs to keep up with treads, If i see a S2000 drive past me i think to myself it's a honda s2000 , see a 350z go past and i be like whooa thats damn nice...

i agree. if i have the choice, id go a 350 roadster too. i've driven neither though, so it's an uninformed opinion. but if i were a s2000 owner and honda started slashing the price of the s2k to be competitive with the roadster i would cry. last thing u want is your car to depreciate even faster than it naturally does. im sure it bares minimal weight on their consciences but honda owe it to their loyal customers not to slash their prices ridiculously.

btw, i looked it up... s2k: $74k; 350: $70k. but if i were gonna buy an s2k, id get a second hand one. hopefully the 350s will be comparitively cheaper when they start to age.

[Tofu]

hmm....s2000 vs 350....
honda all the way....the 350 looks heavy and IS heavy...

[Catcha]

I Personally like the 350z style but that is just me.....

[Hawk]

Honda Australia don't feel they need to lower there price to compete with something that isn't even in the same technical league as the s2k.

If u wanted a cruise car, something u could drive along without really thinking, then pull over and let your mum drive, you would go a 350z. If u wanted a car that put you in the back of the seat, and made you work to get the thing to rocket through every gear all the way to the sky high, ear enjoying redline, you would get a s2000.

Also it is very hard to coment on either without driving them. I work at Honda and frequent the drivers seat of S2000, Type R, and Type S etc.

[Catcha]

Honda Australia don't feel they need to lower there price to compete with something that isn't even in the same technical league as the s2k.

If u wanted a cruise car, something u could drive along without really thinking, then pull over and let your mum drive, you would go a 350z. If u wanted a car that put you in the back of the seat, and made you work to get the thing to rocket through every gear all the way to the sky high, ear enjoying redline, you would get a s2000.

Also it is very hard to coment on either without driving them. I work at Honda and frequent the drivers seat of S2000, Type R, and Type S etc.

Thats why like the Type R , prelude, the S2000 will soon follow there footsteps, the car industry is business in the end, things don't sell got to get rid of them and come up with new ideas, plain and simple, don't want to lower prices, things don't sell. The honda NSX was one of those cars that was well priced back in those days cheaper than a porsche, and was in the supercar league. giving everything a run for the money and bang for your bucks, but at $245,000 is getting a bit steep, for a outlay of 100g-150g you can pick up a R34 GTR and still save 50g to mod it into leathal weapon. But this is just how i view it, and had a flimsy 245g to spend.......

[bumography]

Hi !!!
cant be bothered reading this

but i saw one today on the back of a truck
and i'd like to say it has CLEAR ROUND circle lights
teh red is normal
just the twin rounds are clear

=)

[bentypes]

what a write up......... i recently bought a type s and i'm more than happy with it (except my steering rack prob). the car not only performs well it enjoys my foot on the firewall. i reckon it'll handel heaps better when i get my tein springs and new stabiliser bars

[MR_PEA]

good read, really appreciate the effort thanks!

[olda]

what a write up......... i recently bought a type s and i'm more than happy with it (except my steering rack prob). the car not only performs well it enjoys my foot on the firewall. i reckon it'll handel heaps better when i get my tein springs and new stabiliser bars

...............steering rack gremlins??????????????????????????????
Tell us more pls............................

[bentypes]

i had the car for about two weeks and was about to go through the natio when the steering went a little stiffer than normal. i proceeded to turn when it made a clunk noise. from that point on, on every full rotation of the steering wheel it made that annoying clunk. then when i got it serviced they said a part of the rack was binding on another part thus causing a clunk when it passed that spot. the part was replaced a week later and still continues to make the clunk every so often. my local :honda: dealer are not very coopretive and now not sure what to do?

[aaronng]

Go to a different dealer. It might be worth the travel. Of course, call them up with your problem and sweeten the deal by telling them that you are looking for a better dealer to service your car at. :)

[bentypes]

i've already rung the dept of fair trading, but got told to make a formal complaint to the dealer, but as they won't already acknowledge my problems (this isn't my only one) i will be in contact with honda australia

[south]

Hey bentypes,

When the dept of fair trading says make a "formal" complaint, they mean write a letter to the dealership describing the problem and the troubles you have had with the dealership, and address it to the general manager. Also advise them that you have spoken with the fair trading dept and that they suggested the letter, also that you intend to speak with honda australia. The dealership will take a formal letter more serious than a verbal complaint, and you should get a response from the general manager fairly quickly. If you still get nothing, definatley talk to honda australia as they have HUGE pull with the dealerships.

Let us know how this turns out, as its everyones worst nightmare!

Also, which dealership was it?

[_CiVIC_]

I've had my typeS since end of March last yr... I haven't had a problem...

Did they say this problem was common with the 05 models???

[Boostzor]

The Clunk is really really minimal and ive only ever heard it at low speed. I know it should be perfect but its not really a problem worth getting worked up about in my opinion. The steering column rattle though, thats getting on my nerves, the dealer says that it doesnt exist, i beg to differ.

[bentypes]

the dealership was honda at sutherland.when i decided to part with my money for new car i expected no troubles, although this is unpredictable, its the service i recieved which was appaling. in my eyes reffering to the clunk no matter how minor it is or if at low speeds it isn't an extra and should be fixed and i hope everyone elses dealer is of a more proffessional manner than mine

[aaronng]

Don't worry, you don't have to stick with the dealer that you bought your car at. In fact, most dealers would be super happy if you left your current one to service at their place. And warranty work can be carried out by any Honda dealer. Go look for another one.

And you're also not allowed to post the name of a bad companies/dealers and such because they can sue OzHonda for defamation. So it's probably a good idea to edit out the name of the dealer in your post above. :)

[olda]

The Clunk is really really minimal and ive only ever heard it at low speed. I know it should be perfect but its not really a problem worth getting worked up about in my opinion. The steering column rattle though, thats getting on my nerves, the dealer says that it doesnt exist, i beg to differ.

..........................so now we also have the steering column rattle..............
the plot thickens......................
..........clunk not worth getting worked up about?????????????????????
Clunk and the rattle are most likely an interconnected symptoms of something wrong with the steering rack assembly. (Expensive part to replace).
And yes, it will get worse as you pile up milage.
And yes, if you're sending a formal letter of complaint to your dealership, don't forget to c.c the Honda H/O.
It will save you writing another letter later.
Good luck and keep us posted!

[UNLS1]

hmmm my 06 integra demo has the same prob, only done 1800ks.......goes to service on mon, will let u know wat happens...

[olda]

hmmm my 06 integra demo has the same prob, only done 1800ks.......goes to service on mon, will let u know wat happens...

...............ouch,............ beginning to sound like a re-call................:(
Honda take notice........................:!:

[UNLS1]

lol it will be found and fixed....service are doing a microphone test on the mon...
Will be good to see wat it is!
Lucky its my demo and not a customers car.....but if it was it would be fixed!
We are not ranked number 1 for service in victoria for nothing lol :D

[Boostzor]

..........................so now we also have the steering column rattle..............
the plot thickens......................
..........clunk not worth getting worked up about?????????????????????
Clunk and the rattle are most likely an interconnected symptoms of something wrong with the steering rack assembly. (Expensive part to replace).
And yes, it will get worse as you pile up milage.
And yes, if you're sending a formal letter of complaint to your dealership, don't forget to c.c the Honda H/O.
It will save you writing another letter later.
Good luck and keep us posted!


Nahh i dont think they are connected the rattle is in the steering wheel basically. So right up front, possibly a loose part of the airbag assembly, im just hoping it doesnt go off :eek:

this clunk thing for me has been around since 0kms and by low speed i mean parking at under 5kms or turning wheel when stationary. It almost sounded like the chassis/undercarriage shifting on bushes or something so i never really bothered about it though the above explanation does make sense.

[Felix]

How does the Type S compare to the DC5R in the way of performance??? I know it has a few extra KW, but its also heavier...

[aaronng]

It's about the same in the straight line. But in the corners, DC5R is quicker. Check out the Motor magazine comparo between DC2R, DC5R and DC5S.

[Mattski_VTIR]

More than half of this thread is pointless... More on topic, DC5R and DC5S offer very similar straight line performance with handling in favour of the R. Personally i think to many people gave up on the DC5S before it even had a chance. Having owned several honda's including a Type R, the Type S is a very capable sports car.
Just my 2 cents!

[GARF]

I reckon the The DC5S looks better than the DC5R. The S has better headlights. Plus i saw the DC5S in a mugen bodykit with mugen 18inch rims and i fell in love with it. Plus you can always do up the handling and performance. I'll try and find some pics of the DC5S i was talking about.

[_CiVIC_]

Quick question guys!

Whats the offset on the Type S ??

Cheers :)

[quangsta]

offset is +45

[_CiVIC_]

cheers mate :)

[zuihoujueding]

retail price of the typeS is total ripped-off! im a fan of honda but the price really pissed me off. the rex will be my choice, no doubt about it.

[mj3610]

retail price of the typeS is total ripped-off! im a fan of honda but the price really pissed me off. the rex will be my choice, no doubt about it.

lol when'd u figure that out...

[RyDC5S]

retail price of the typeS is total ripped-off! im a fan of honda but the price really pissed me off. the rex will be my choice, no doubt about it.


Why? WRX has a rubbish interior.

Awesome performance however.

[HRC05]

The DC02 was a much better car

[Felix]

The DC02 was a much better car


hah??

[m3ntAL_l2]

think hes tryin to say that dc2s are better cars

[HRC05]

Yeah thats right my 99 vti-r integra was better

[Q_ball]

^I think its fair to say, that ur jst sayin that due to the fact that u got a surprisingly bad conditioned DC5S with only 16k on the clock (dont kno how ur drivin it dude)

But overall, the DC5S, is way superior to the DC2.

[HRC05]

No, I got the car new. And no the quality of the fit and finish inside and out is shit compared. The paint is shit, the materials used in the cabin is cheap need i day more. the only good thin is the engine and thats it

[industrie]

No, I got the car new. And no the quality of the fit and finish inside and out is shit compared. The paint is shit, the materials used in the cabin is cheap need i day more. the only good thin is the engine and thats it

honda paint quality is very good, I dont see how they would have reduced the quality in the type S paint...and if the car and finish is so bad from your experience why do you have a type S? go figure :confused:

[HRC05]

I bought the car thinking it would be better than my 99" VTI-R. I bought it when it got first released. there were none in the country to see. I own it and i regret it. it will be in the paper after the gearbox gets replaced. The 2000 type R are kicks its arse

[HRC05]

you can see major colour variances with the paint work

[aaronng]

you can see major colour variances with the paint work

You sure it was not because of the pearl paint? My arctic blue has sections that look blue and other sections that look purple.

[HRC05]

nah the bumpers are a different colour , and its not a pearl anyway. I noticed this as a issue that affects most brands but i thought honda wouldn't succumb to lowering there hight standard of fit and finish especially the paint.

[HRC05]

The car will be up for sale in january after the gearbox gets replaced under warranty ... and yes there are people experiencing the same issue as me with the gearbox and steering.

[_CiVIC_]

woahhh you must have had bad luck man..........

my Type S was perfect..... i only traded mine in because I wanted an auto that was practical in carrying passengers...

what colour is yours?

[HRC05]

Magnesium Silver

[RyDC5S]

Rixsy from this forum also had issues with her Type S, which I think they brought up with Honda Aus.

[HRC05]

What did they do?

[Rixsy]

Surprisingly, mine is silver too :s

Anyway, yeah I had a few problems with mine and like you HRC05 I was one of the first to buy it in Brisbane.

Basically my problems went over I think the first 6 months of the receiving of the car and it was a magnet for getting hit and injured :( [Had my front and rear bumper replaced and hit again after that]

But all is well now. Honda took care of it after a lot of verbal abuse.

[_CiVIC_]

my one was magnesium silver and i had no issues... honestly...

besides the chip i got on the windscreen... other than that it was perfect :)

[HRC05]

Funny so was mine, after honda ordered a new bumper i was rear ended ...hmmm must be the car. hey wait up I think mine came from brisbane.. i remember because there were none in sydney .... yeah it did come from Brisbane ... i waited 4 months for mine

[Q_ball]

I'm tellin ya, the car as a whole is fine, theyre beautiful and function well.
You jst meerly run into a string of bad luck with yours HRC05.
The DC5S, overall, is a sweet as car!

[HRC05]

Yeah but it's not much better than my VTI-R, See every Integra i have owned was significantly better. 86 SX -> 90 LS - 99 VTI-R .... The type S in only a little better, it has more power and hands a little better but thats it. Smaller cabin, cheaper plastics, less precise gear change and ordinary exterior paint. So the priemum for the type S is not justified and the Accord Euros surprisingly agile handling and power is hard to ignor especially when it is 10k cheaper. I think i might look at getting a real type R from Japan. that i heard is AWSOME.

[HRC05]

My wifes Euro fitted with Yokohama AVS is a sweet drive.

[Hullabaloo]

I think you've been unlucky with your DC5S HRC05. I also have a magnesium silver one (bought new and now done 17k km) and haven't had any problems. Hopefully you can get it all sorted soon.

[xzbit]

Nice car! Has all the luxuries, but I'd still prefer my DC2R! Although, I've never driven a Type S, I like the sportier looks of the DC2R!

My 2 cents!

[RyDC5S]

Like I've said earlier - there is room for both.

Just look at most European sportscars, they have a degree of luxury with them.

[xzbit]

But most European's have the rep for being luxury! and therefore its expected!

[aaronng]

Most European brands can CHARGE for the luxury. That's why it's there. If you are willing to pay an extra $15,000 or so for luxury, I'm sure Honda could have matched their European rivals.

[anmanndc5s]

hey i have one of these dc5s's and i love it i didnt at first tho but now that ive been driving around in one for about 9 months i love em they handle really well for me even all stock, i love this car

[Q_ball]

hey i have one of these dc5s's and i love it i didnt at first tho but now that ive been driving around in one for about 9 months i love em they handle really well for me even all stock, i love this car

So let me guess, you "love" this car? lol
Revive old threads much? lol

[anmanndc5s]

lol :)

[Frost_FD]

I wish i had a type S the sound is amazing and when its a little wet driving through king st thats just porn

[Mitsubishi]

I love the handling on the Type-S in stock form.

Very neat car, great all rounder and a beast unleashed with an upgraded intake!

[Type S Tony]

Out performs any integra ever made!

[bungsai]

tonY the TeGrA!

[markis]

pick mine up tomorrow.

[burak213]

congrats

[DC5-S]

Honda had to make a car for the new car market, thats why they brought out the type S. Honda wants people to buy their new cars, not 2nd hand. They wanted people to pay 45,000 for a type S, rather than 30,000 for a 2nd hand type R. And the people who will pay 45,000 for a Honda would want some luxury in their car.

"The Type R was too extreme for many customers" quoted by Project Chief Kenya Tsutsui.

But what they did wrong was, trying to imitate something like an M3. Its a Honda!

At the end of the day, the S and the R are totally different cars....
The Type S isnt exactly s..t if people would want leather seats, sunroof (main reason i chose the S) and also some K20 iVTEC. The S in my opinion looks a bit more elegant than the type R. The S is also not as popular as the R, another reason why i got the S. I dont want to be counting the number to Type R's i see a day, coz if i did, it would be heaps.... (how many times have you activated ur LSD on street???)

For someone who wants something a bit more unique and a bit more elegance, Type S is the way to go!!!! FTW!!!!!!

For 45,000.... i would like to know i can also enjoy the comfort my car can offer....

My 2 Cents :)

[markis]

congrats

cheers mate i love it.

the leather. the lightness. the grip is good. it rolls alot and sways but im comparing it to my last evo. which was more planted.

i just serviced it and im astounded at the oil capacity. over 5L of oil needed. and whats the recommended oil filter.? repco, ryco or OEM?

[markis]

Honda had to make a car for the new car market, thats why they brought out the type S. Honda wants people to buy their new cars, not 2nd hand. They wanted people to pay 45,000 for a type S, rather than 30,000 for a 2nd hand type R. And the people who will pay 45,000 for a Honda would want some luxury in their car.

"The Type R was too extreme for many customers" quoted by Project Chief Kenya Tsutsui.

But what they did wrong was, trying to imitate something like an M3. Its a Honda!

At the end of the day, the S and the R are totally different cars....
The Type S isnt exactly s..t if people would want leather seats, sunroof (main reason i chose the S) and also some K20 iVTEC. The S in my opinion looks a bit more elegant than the type R. The S is also not as popular as the R, another reason why i got the S. I dont want to be counting the number to Type R's i see a day, coz if i did, it would be heaps.... (how many times have you activated ur LSD on street???)

For someone who wants something a bit more unique and a bit more elegance, Type S is the way to go!!!! FTW!!!!!!

For 45,000.... i would like to know i can also enjoy the comfort my car can offer....

My 2 Cents :)

i concur to an extent. i find this car fun and more chuckable than my old evo... i love the leather and the interior. red dials are nice. similar to the evo. engine is revy and very free. power is ok. but it does lack an lsd badly. mine has 29000kms and the original RE050s which are 60-80% so its had an easy life

[burak213]

cheers mate i love it.

the leather. the lightness. the grip is good. it rolls alot and sways but im comparing it to my last evo. which was more planted.

i just serviced it and im astounded at the oil capacity. over 5L of oil needed. and whats the recommended oil filter.? repco, ryco or OEM?

OEM is good mate, just go to your Honda dealer its like 16 bucks

[markis]

OEM is good mate, just go to your Honda dealer its like 16 bucks

thanks burak. wish i went to honda sooner. ryco was 22 and the repco was 14 so i bought the repco as it was christmas eve and the dealer was closed.:( next time :D