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0.o

23-03-2009, 10:38 PM

hi i just recently purchased a black jazz VTI-S, but one wierd thing is that on the plate in the engine it says its a GD1? even the vin no. begins with a GD1 but the engine no. it states that it is a L15A? whats the deal with this? can anyone help me?

thanks

shadou

23-03-2009, 11:00 PM

I don't think the engine ever changed within the Jazz variants, the vti-s was added exterior cosmetic upgrades ?

kongfu

23-03-2009, 11:03 PM

take a pic we can help you out.

imratedpg

23-03-2009, 11:03 PM

GD1 is your series number and L15a is your engine number.

if you still dont understand, EG is the series number for a honda civic but the engine number would be D15b for example.

imratedpg

23-03-2009, 11:07 PM

use www.redbook.com.au

0.o

24-03-2009, 08:25 AM

cause i thought GD1 meant that it was a 1.3L ?

thanks for the replies
i will post photos when i have the time cheers

kongfu

24-03-2009, 08:26 AM

cause i thought GD1 meant that it was a 1.3L ?

thanks for the replies
i will post photos when i have the time cheers

GD1-L13- GLI Model

GD3-L15-VTI,VTIS Model

gd1_nz

24-03-2009, 03:30 PM

maybe its started its life as a GD1 and then the previous owner put in a L15a...just a though

kongfu

24-03-2009, 03:41 PM

maybe its started its life as a GD1 and then the previous owner put in a L15a...just a though

good assumption L15 conversion to GD1?:D :thumbsup:

RAYDER

24-03-2009, 06:08 PM

hmmm seems unlikey though, fairly expensive upgrade for something like that. but u never know i spose. does it say VTEC on the engine? engine could be labeled wrong.... who knows

0.o

24-03-2009, 09:39 PM

ok its a 2006 model.....and the jazz emblem has a red dot.....its facelifted i presume with the so called "smoked" rear led lights. yes the engine does have vtec written on it....but i read that the red dot was an i-dsl? im so confused and lost =(

thanks for the replies though

Type-R

24-03-2009, 09:50 PM

0.o

25-03-2009, 08:14 PM

What colour is the interior? If it is grey then it is a 1.3 Gil GD1. If it is black then it is a 1.5 GD3. Are the interior door handles black = 1.3 or silver / chrome = 1.5. Also if it is a true VTi-S it should have a leather steering wheel. What is the redline? 6300 = 1.5, 6000 ish = 1.3. Also if it is an auto it should have paddles if it is a 1.5.

yeah interiors black, door hands are silver, redline is at 6300 and yes leather steering wheel with paddle shift.....but why does the engine plate say GD1?......

sassy_fit_vtit

25-03-2009, 08:23 PM

Did you purchase this car new or second hand?

If you did purchase it second hand you might want to call up your local transport department to find out the history of the vehicle (or a revs check) to see if the engine numbers match up, given that these things need to be registered with the transport department and usually is updated on transfer of ownership.

0.o

25-03-2009, 08:35 PM

sassy_fit_vtit

25-03-2009, 08:38 PM

Im not sure what state ur in but when i did a revs check it included a history of ownership with corresponding engine codes.

0.o

25-03-2009, 09:48 PM

im in sydney and i did a call up

0.o

27-03-2009, 08:45 PM

See if you have a bank of spark plugs on the front side of the engine. If you do it's not a 1.5 Vtec. The engine covers change in seconds so the cover could have been changed. Also look on the right (passenger) side of the engine at the front bottom edge of the plastic engine cover right side. If you have a thing that looks like a silver 35mm film canister upside down that is the Vtec solenoid if you don't then it's not a 1.5 Vtec engine.

look in this photo:

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i311/claymore729/Cover1a.jpg

The Vtec solenoid is the greyish/sliver canister between the engine cover and the black hose. If yours has one it's a Vtec engine.

hi yeah i checked this morning and it did have it. so means its vtec yeah?
hmmmmm why is it red dot then....maybe prev owner changed the emblem? but why does it say gd1..?

Artie

27-03-2009, 09:52 PM

Did the "owners warranty and service manual" come with the car. If so check that the VIN and engine numbers written on the inside of the front cover correspond with the numbers on the car. It may also give details of the original owner who you could contact to ask some questions.

Did you buy privately or from a dealer? I suspect that you bought it privately and that the warranty and service manual didn't come with the car. Something is not quite right but Honda Australia should be able to advise if the car could possibly have been originally delivered with the numbers, red dot etc that it has.

Artie

28-03-2009, 11:04 AM

That seems to be the case claymore but not only has the engine been changed but the whole interior (including speedo & tacho), body kit and I assume wheels, steering wheel etc has also been changed.

To do that would cost more than it would be worth even if the parts were sourced from a wrecked car. This is a real mystery and I would be interested to hear more if 0.o finds anything out.

0.o

28-03-2009, 02:13 PM

i reckon its just all screwed up.....everything on it states its a vti-s..interior+engine
the only thing is the plate which states GD1
and the most funny thing is on the rta slip it says 1.3L but on the right says 1496CC wtf?
all in all its still drives considerably well haha! i love it =)

LSD GD3

28-03-2009, 02:42 PM

aaronng

28-03-2009, 03:05 PM

GD1 is just the model of jazz cos they made some upgrade and made the GD3 is a model change... main different is the intake box, interior, cvt paddle shift and different body kit. L15A is the Engine Type: Code/Model!

I just checked the carsales compare cars function, which shows you example engine and chassis codes. 1.3L comes in GD1 and 1.5L comes in GD3.

I'd agree with the suggestion to check the service booklet to see what engine it originally came with.

0.o

29-03-2009, 06:18 PM

ummm that doesnt work if the vin and the engine number match....and i checked rta and it didnt state it was stolen

aaronng

29-03-2009, 07:26 PM

Have you checked the original service booklet yet?

0.o

29-03-2009, 07:51 PM

Have you checked the original service booklet yet?

yess it matches....how u upload pictures?

0.o

29-03-2009, 07:53 PM

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/9427/5059352.jpg

kongfu

29-03-2009, 08:25 PM

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/9427/5059352.jpg

steering wheel is leather or plastic?

0.o

29-03-2009, 08:30 PM

steering wheel is leather or plastic?

leather with 7 speed mode and shift paddles

Artie

29-03-2009, 08:36 PM

Is the original owners name in the service book?

aaronng

29-03-2009, 09:58 PM

yess it matches....how u upload pictures?

Use imageshack.us or photobucket.

Does it say GD1 or GD3 in the VIN?

bc143

29-03-2009, 10:53 PM

as claymore suggest i think it's a resurrect GD1 by a GD3 as i've seen some similar example in auto auction. but as long as the car drive good dun bother la.

Artie

30-03-2009, 09:49 AM

0.o,

It is not perfectly clear in your photo but it looks like your car has the GD1 front roof mounted radio antenna.

It seems that the red dot and radio antenna are the only items left from the original GD1 spec. Everthing else seems to be MY06 Vti-s GD3.

Is the previous owners name in the service manual?

hoey888

30-03-2009, 10:00 AM

0.o,

It is not perfectly clear in your photo but it looks like your car has the GD1 front roof mounted radio antenna.

x2 i second that as well...

could you take a picture of the engine bay? take a look at the compliance plate and check if its from thailand or japan.... ( coz they both use different air intake boxes so another discussion point there)

Artie

30-03-2009, 07:32 PM

That front came out with the first update in the MY05 which was built in Japan. The thing that gives it away as a second update MY06 (Thai built) is the mirror mounted indicators. The radio aerial mounted at the front of the roof was a spec of the MY05 Vti-s but was carried over to the MY06 Gli. The MY06 Vti & Vti-s had the radio aerial mounted on the back of the roof.

Also I don't think that colour came out in the MY05.

This is one mixed up car.

Artie

30-03-2009, 07:36 PM

Come to think of it, if that was originally a GD1 (Gli) then there would have been holes in the front guards where the orange indicators have been removed.

0.o

30-03-2009, 09:32 PM

this is interesting isnt it.....i havnt taken photos od the engine bay yet
but the vin is MRHGD1850.....so its thailand made....and that vin corresponds to a 1.3gli
my06

aaronng

30-03-2009, 09:45 PM

this is interesting isnt it.....i havnt taken photos od the engine bay yet
but the vin is MRHGD1850.....so its thailand made....and that vin corresponds to a 1.3gli
my06

If the service booklet is original from the first day the car was owned, then it will show you the original engine number that came with the car. Have you opened the service booklet yet?

kongfu

30-03-2009, 09:48 PM

If the service booklet is original from the first day the car was owned, then it will show you the original engine number that came with the car. Have you opened the service booklet yet?

+1 exactly right.

just check out the service book it states the car model and vin in detail.

insteads of let every one guess for your weird jazz issue.

040501912

31-03-2009, 03:10 AM

wewww! this is one mixed up jazz.....

post up some engine pictures, interior, closed up on ur vin number.

as every 1 said GD1 is 1.3 GD3 is 1.5
or it could be just a plain mixed up from honda it self?

what year was the car?

Zilli

31-03-2009, 07:07 AM

aaronng... the voice of reason....

how about a call to a Honda dealer or the RTA instead of taking photos of the paint colour inside the chassis rail on the back left hand side on a full moon....

think people...

LSD GD3

01-04-2009, 03:36 AM

Honds Jazz / Fit
Vehicle Identification Number Spec:
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/196/vinengineandtransmissio.th.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vinengineandtransmissio.jpg)
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1914/jazzvinengineandtransmi.th.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jazzvinengineandtransmi.jpg)
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1914/jazzvinengineandtransmi.th.jpg (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jazzvinengineandtransmi.jpg)
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5624/jazzenginenumber.th.jpg (http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jazzenginenumber.jpg)
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/7071/jazztransmissionnumber.th.jpg (http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jazztransmissionnumber.jpg)

Click once to open link, Then Click the photo again to enlarge!

0.o

03-04-2009, 08:57 PM

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/3348/jazzt.jpg

i came across this pic and it resembles all the parts on my jazz just the rims...
anyone know what model this is?

Artie

03-04-2009, 09:10 PM

It's not an Australian version

aaronng

03-04-2009, 10:01 PM

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/3348/jazzt.jpg

i came across this pic and it resembles all the parts on my jazz just the rims...
anyone know what model this is?

Why don't you just check the service booklet? Unless you didn't get it when you bought the car used.

kongfu

04-04-2009, 01:24 PM

Why don't you just check the service booklet? Unless you didn't get it when you bought the car used.

he is been lazy:D

Artie

04-04-2009, 04:14 PM

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/3348/jazzt.jpg

i came across this pic and it resembles all the parts on my jazz just the rims...
anyone know what model this is?

This pic appears to be a UK spec "Jazz Sport". Definately not a version sold in Australia and not what your car is. (UK spec uses miles, not kilometres)

Artie

06-04-2009, 10:11 PM

0.o

I had another thought today. Does your car have under 40,000kms on it and if so are the tyres the original Bridgestone Potenza's? They should be if it's a genuine Vti-s. You can check that the age of the tyres matches the age of the car.

The tyres should be about 4 to 6 weeks older than the manufacturers build date. Each tyre has the manufacture date on the side. If you look on one of the drivers side tyres you will find the letter "JAB" followed by 4 numbers. The first two numbers are the week and the last two numbers are the year. For example "JAB3406" means that the tyres were made in the 34th week of 2006.

Example - If you car is a September 2006 build date (build date, not Australian compliance date) the date on your tyres should be around July 2006 which is somewhere between the 27th week to the 30th week so the number on the side of the tyre would be 2706 or 2806 or 2906 or 3006.

Have a look at this to see if it all matches up. Could you let us know what the result is.