[cu2] cai / sri

[taccord12]

hey guys, anyone considering doing either of these mods to ur car yet? Is it currently possible to get it custom done? I have Honda extended warranty for another 2 yrs after standard warranty i think, tbh, i don't really want to void any warranty but i would really like to get short ram intake for my car.

and say if i had it installed, what will it affect in terms of warranty? sure the intake itself, but what other possible link to any other parts of the vehicle? and would there be any big/ small advantages / disadvantages of running SRI / CAI without at least some form of non stock exhaust systems or any other upgrades in long term? thanks in advance for any input!

[Crapdaz]

I think normally an intake should be fine, call HA up and ask shouldn't hurt.

Cons - SRI sucks in hot engine bay air if not enclosed, not sucking cold air
Pros - sucks air quicker cause of shorter air pipe, slightly quicker throttle response.

Any mod will help your car, by adding an exhaust it will make it even more helpful in excreting the exhaust fumes out quicker.

[akina]

cai/sri... they both void your engine warranty.

Just hope your engine don't blow up!

[taccord12]

thx Crapdaz & akina... wow so it'll void the WHOLE engine's warranty huh? damn... so even if my engine doesn't literally blow up, it'll MIGHT still have other issues, so when there is i'm pretty much just wasted the purchase of my warranty just by changing intake -_- wait 3 yrs LOL? oh yeah btw, custom intakes, they can make it to customize if you want low end / mid range / high end torque right??

[integral90]

thx Crapdaz & akina... wow so it'll void the WHOLE engine's warranty huh? damn... so even if my engine doesn't literally blow up, it'll MIGHT still have other issues, so when there is i'm pretty much just wasted the purchase of my warranty just by changing intake -_- wait 3 yrs LOL? oh yeah btw, custom intakes, they can make it to customize if you want low end / mid range / high end torque right??

It might void your engine's warranty but it's not hard to take it off before each service and in the case of the engine messing up, swapping it over before taking it to Honda. Depends on your dealer, mine told me the engine is still covered if it is actually a problem with it (ie. timing chain tensioner falls off and the engine blows itself up) because that wouldn't have been affected by my mods. Dealers are generally good, unlike insurance companies. Dealers want to keep your business, and if they have to fork out $x,xxx for a new whatever so that you'll buy your next $xx,xxx car from them they probably will.

Custom intakes can technically be tuned for different rpm. A smaller pipe will give you better low end and response up ruin your top end, middle will give you good bottom and top with good response, big will give you good top end but less down low and response might decrease.

Generally the longer an intake is aswell the less turbulence the air is exposed to in the pipe, meaning it will shoot into the intake manifold faster and there'll be less loss from filter to cylinder. A short ram will suck the air in but it won't funnel it as well as it's longer counter part.

The heat issue can easily be dealt with by simply shielding the filter from the engine bay heat. This can be done by moving it out of the engine bay or making an airbox, they'll both ultimately do the same thing.

The response discussion is pretty irrelevant in my opinion, the difference between (technically) a CAI and an SRI can be a slight bend and another 15cm of pipe. And when you think about how much suction is going through that pipe and how quickly the air moves... it's trivial and you most likely won't notice.

I recently did my intake with a 2.75" mandrel bent custom cold air intake and just from it's design, even at light throttle the car is very torquey. At the 2000rpm-4000rpm range it's much more torqey than stock even though I have an intake manifold that should have specifically shifted the peak torque above that range. Intake can do a lot, but don't expect them to transfer your car on their own. They all work in a symphony of mechanics :p

[denot]

careful guys, someone has his Civic FD engine broken down and the only mods he has is CAI + catback and these void the warranty. Can find the thread atm, but will post it later if I found it.

edit: here is the thread: http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89373&highlight=engine+part

[Crapdaz]

its not the fact that his got the intake there must have been something else that failed.

but yes adding anything during active warranty can void yoru warranty as so that if any problems happens they can blame you since its your fault.

BLAME GAME FTW!!!

[denot]

^^^ yes crapdaz thats what I mean, no matter what the actual fault is, Honda will always try to void the warranty and blammed you for installing the CAI/SRI

[Crapdaz]

blame game ftL

[integral90]

careful guys, someone has his Civic FD engine broken down and the only mods he has is CAI + catback and these void the warranty. Can find the thread atm, but will post it later if I found it.

edit: here is the thread: http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89373&highlight=engine+part

What does 'engine broke down' mean? Do you mean it seized and died? Nn engine light has come on? What?

The worst I could possibly see a catback and intake doing is throwing a CEL, unless the installation was done by the most incompotent mechanics in the universe. How 2 mods that do nothing to the timing, A:F or oil pressure could destroy an engine is beyond me...

EDIT: Just read through the thread about the Civic. It sounds like the owner's fault to me, his driving killed it. Still though, it's incredibly rare to encounter this sort of problem if you know how to take care of an engine.

[taccord12]

its not the fact that his got the intake there must have been something else that failed.

but yes adding anything during active warranty can void yoru warranty as so that if any problems happens they can blame you since its your fault.

BLAME GAME FTW!!!

yeah that's what i was afraid of as well, good ol blame game, so it makes me feel kinda silly n worried about doing any mods within the time frame of my active warranty... sigh what would you guys do =] ?

[Crapdaz]

replace the stock airbox when you go in for service.
alternatively just find a K&N filter panel to drop into the box and remove resonator.

[taccord12]

first option sounds good LOL, much risks you think?

[Crapdaz]

first option sounds good LOL, much risks you think?
well as long as you don't mind wasting 10-30mins of your time putting it back on each time.

If you get SRI it should only take 10-15mins.
If you get CAI then it should take 20-30mins.
Assuming you are hands on with using handtools.

You can remove resonator for both ideas i mentioned to reduce a few hundred grams weight reduction.

So temporarily you can just drop in K&N air filter add a feed pipe to the stock airbox where the old resonator use to be feeding cold air and wait until warranty is over then start modding.

[Type R Positive]

There was already a thread for this...

Here is one from the states:
http://tsx.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10614294