Brandon's H2B Build 150kw of N/A power

[Benson]

Thought i share one of my mates build. There are only a few of these h2b build in Australia, so they are pretty rare.

The car had originally a JDM B18cR motor package roughly 12 months ago pushing out 130kw with Intake, Dave's Custom headers and Crome ECU (Dave Tuned). Brandon ran a best of 13.8@101mph on street tyres, stock sussy and first time out as a driver at the drags and the car. It was a awesome effort! :thumbsup:

Getting slightly bored over the 1.8l displacement, i drilled him with the idea of running a h22a and running 12second down the 1/4mile cheaper than doing a K swap. With one of the H2b kit laying in my backyard and a H22a type S engine most parts were ready for the transformation.

The initial goal was to get roughly 140-145kw and run high 12's for the first outing. The motor package had exceeded everyones expectation. Here is a quick run down of the motor package:

Stock Unopen H22a Type S motor (rated @ 220hp at the flywheel)
Euro R Intake manifold
Skunk2 70mm Throttle Body
RMF Rep Headers
3inch Exhaust system
Evolution H2B kit
Custom intake with Blox Air filter combo
ITR gearbox
Exedy HD Clutch
Crome ECU + tuned by Dave
98RON

Dyno Graph
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/fatboyz39/IMGP0501.jpg


As you can see from the graph the H22a motor made a whooping 150.3kw at the wheels @ Insight Motorsport. Its a pretty crazy figure for an unopen motor! :)

Car went down the 1/4mile a couple weeks ago. Car was equiped with 22inch slicks and the usual weight reduction (rear seats and spare tyre out). Brandon did a best of 12.8@108mph :thumbsup:. He did a good job handling the car as the wheel alignment was off as the car tended to steer right when power was applied.

Stay tuned for further result and development of the car and engine package. The ultimate goal is to run low to mid 12's with a H22a.

To put things in perspective:

OEM motor = reliability :thumbsup:
Cheaper than K swap :thumbsup:
Run 12's :thumbsup:
Unique :thumbsup:

Its a big :thumbsup: for H2B set-ups!!! If you want more info on H2B, search it on honda-tech.com

[barefootbonzai]

good work guys.

[[ricer]]

impressive!!!

[mr_vtec]

finaly we get to see the h2b kit being used..

[myztery]

how much cheaper then a k swap???

[mr180sx]

Good work guys!

Finally someone has done the H2B conversion in Australia. Very impressive results.

Keep up the good work:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[JDM.Power]

how much cheaper then a k swap???

way cheaperrrr

[Benson]

how much cheaper then a k swap???

5-8k cheaper:p

[Bowzer]

nice results dude

[Benson]

nice results dude

Cheers,

Saw you h2b build 1-2 years ago. We were meant to use the kit ourselves 2 years ago, but plans changed so it was just sitting there waiting for someone to use it :p

[IEVAQ8]

amazing work guys...........

[90LAN]

nice work and no's
did he ever try it with the type s gearbox
just for comparison ?

[zco]

good work brandon ! more practice should see you down lower in the 12 bracket

[vinnY]

crazy car, missed it on the dyno though
did he end up fixing the tb whine? sounds like he's got a duck trapped under the hood!

[Bowzer]

Cheers,

Saw you h2b build 1-2 years ago. We were meant to use the kit ourselves 2 years ago, but plans changed so it was just sitting there waiting for someone to use it :p


yeah sometimes things never go according to plan. Hows the hood clearance on the Evo kit?

[EG CIVIC]

great results! :thumbsup:

looking forward to seeing the potential it has on the circuit also...

[bodaas]

sorry offtopic just want to ask simple question

do you know wher to get the gearbox adapter in aus bro, pm me pls

[Benson]

Clearance on the Hood is perfect. Brandon had small spacers on it orginally (1/2inch lift) but it still close good. We didnt use the billet evo mounts, but rather the innovative mounts

In regards to adaptor, you need to get them from the USA.

[Benson]

great results! :thumbsup:

looking forward to seeing the potential it has on the circuit aslo...

I think its more a street/daily driver and occasional 1/4 mile car.

[paps02]

niiiiiiiiiiice

[EG5]

Good work guys.
Impressive result , easy low 12s potential

[INVSBL]

well done on the unique build

[iijjee]

Nice times...!

What would it run on street tyres? That would be an easier comparo to K-swap stock times. A k20 on streeties has run high 12's here hasn't it! Silver car I think.

Sounds like a pretty simple build so far!

[grumpy rooster]

Good work. The H22A engines are much better than people realise. :)

[b16a man]

Hi guys

I dont understand what you mean by h2b build?

Newby with car lingo here.

Cheers

John

[vinnY]

h series from a 'lude with a b series gearbox via adapter plate ;)

[b16a man]

is the b series g box better than a h series. Is it stronger? better for racing in general.

also can you fit a b series gearbox in a cd5 accord.

Cheers

John

[vinnY]

different gear ratios



H22A 1997 Prelude
1st gear Ratio 3.23
2nd gear Ratio 1.956
3rd gear Ratio 1.344
4th gear Ratio 1.034
5th gear Ratio 0.821
Final Drive Ratio 4.266


vs



S80 (JDM Integra Type R 1998 2001)
1st gear Ratio 3.23
2nd gear Ratio 2.105
3rd gear Ratio 1.458
4th gear Ratio 1.034
5th gear Ratio 0.787
Final Drive Ratio 4.785

[b16a man]

What do you mean.

Is it better or worse?

[EG5]

What do you mean.

Is it better or worse?

better gear ratio , better acceleration

[barefootbonzai]

is the b series g box better than a h series. Is it stronger? better for racing in general.

also can you fit a b series gearbox in a cd5 accord.

Cheers

John

As stated above better ratio's.

As for fitting a b-series box on an Accord it's not worth the time or money. If you're wanting the same result, buy some after market gears and final drive with the ratios you're after.

[EG CIVIC]

I think its more a street/daily driver and occasional 1/4 mile car.

Get behind the wheel Benson and show us what it can on circuit.. :p

[Benson]

I might at the 1/4mile if brandon doesnt drive it straight.. lol

But yeh Bseries box has better ratio, stronger box, cheaper to rebuild and ultimately the axle position is the same as a bseries engine. You wont be breaking too many axle with this set-up

[NEED VTEC]

might have a chat to you about this setup benny.. project civic will be ready for a motor in a month :thumbsup:

[drated]

awesome results man !!

[DOOM]

Its a big :thumbsup: for H2B set-ups!!! If you want more info on H2B, search it on honda-tech.com

Hey Benson -

What brand of H2B setup was used? Evolution, QSB?? Please confirm and further explain any dramas encountered with the installation...cheers

[RtN]

aircon and ps still intact?

[MikeyG]

wow reading about this now never heard about it... got me thinking :) might talk with you soon benson

[Sexc86]

impressive !

[Benson]

aircon and ps still intact?

no p/s or a/c

The owner wanted a clean engine bay look..

[RtN]

Ohh thanks for that benson, but you could run both right if you wanted to.

[vinnY]

afaik header won't allow a/c to be run

[Benson]

on a set-up like this, no a/c or p/s can be run. Its only for the hardcore Honda enthusiast

[Brendan_Man]

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: hahah and that i am lol....

[fatboyz39]

Aircon and power steering are for softcocks.

[RtN]

how do you unfog in the rain lol

[hotdc2]

sif even drive in the rain? imagine the understeer. with no power steering it would be a nightmare..

[YBOOST]

you gotta love the 3 point turns! good workout

[zco]

how do you unfog in the rain lol
dont dirve, LOL or get window visors ! works a treat !

[mr180sx]

Or just use rain x!!

[RtN]

hmm yeh last time windows down with visors werent enough lol driving home from aqua golf.. poured down hard.. almost flooding the sides of streets. but yeh probably use rain x and visors might be good.. dw haha will try the combo later so I can decide for swaps.

[aramiK]

Mind me asking how much the build set you or your friend back?

Got a mate interested in this sort of conversion ~

[Benson]

Set aside 10-12 for a good set-up

If your on a budget, h2b is doable with 8-9k

[beeza]

Interesting,thanks Benson!

So,I guess the next obvious question is what will that extra 6-8k on a kswap give me that this set up won't?

But they are rare though right?

[joyride]

interesting. first time i've ever heard of a h2b swap

[beeza]

Yes,the same power? as a k20 and 5-8k cheaper!

Is this statement wrong? I mean is a k20 just a superior engine?

[Joel_K24]

Hey Breno,

When we going to head to WSID next. I reckon we get YBOOST out too and have a few runs, albeit i'll most likely be the slowest of the 3 :p

[beeza]

There's a way to decide hehehe

[YBOOST]

Hey Breno,

When we going to head to WSID next. I reckon we get YBOOST out too and have a few runs, albeit i'll most likely be the slowest of the 3 :p

count me in! would be a really good race DC2R H2b vs DC2R K20a

been looking for a reason to race again. its been over 2 months since my last run :(

[Benson]

Yes,the same power? as a k20 and 5-8k cheaper!

Is this statement wrong? I mean is a k20 just a superior engine?

Yes K20 is a newer engine, but the cost of doing a kswap these days is too costly.

A decent Kswap can set you back a good 15-16k, and a decent h2b 8-10k

Brandon's H2b if set-up properly should run well into the 12's. At the moment he is saving up to set the car properly. He's already done 12.8 with no wheel alignment, no traction bar and stock sussy, so who knows what can be really achieve.

[beeza]

That's an awesome time for an N/A car considering the money spent.

[ALLMTR]

Good to see we finally have some H2B action in Aust.

Well done!

[delsol9000rpms]

We have had H2b setup's for a couple years at least over here...

check these out..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwKVrT_Ai1k&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwKVrT_Ai1k&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBZDItAI6zA&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1RF7mJhass&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBZDItAI6zA&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v0OH1BzEhg&feature=channel

[Benson]

Yeah thats a built motor

What ever happen to that set-up? Didnt hear much about it

That was a poor effort for a built motor!

[Bowzer]

Yeah thats a built motor

What ever happen to that set-up? Didnt hear much about it

That was a poor effort for a built motor!

needs a better driver better setup and better conditions :p

[delsol9000rpms]

needs a better driver

Correct! LOL

[Benson]

needs a better driver better setup and better conditions :p

Fair enough...

[Bludger]

there is no mention of what car this is in.

[Benson]

EG Civic

[Brendan_Man]

a very hot lookin eg civic hahaha :thumbsup: ITS MINE :cool:

[jords]

some pics would be nice?

[Benson]

Its a secret jords...

[bodaas]

what ecu are you running on?
i just wanna know when you said type S is that mean type s block ? or prelude type s?

[vinnY]

crome ecu(chipped obd1 ecu)
i believe it's a h22 from a prelude type s

[Benson]

crome ecu(chipped obd1 ecu)
i believe it's a h22 from a prelude type s

Yeap tuned on Crome :thumbsup:

[Killa From Manila]

are there different h2b kits to use with type s blocks due to atts?

[Benson]

BYP style custom plate

[DR HONDA]

Its a secret jords...
You boys are too secretive why dont you share a little with the oz h community?

[MikeyG]

i believe they have some sort of oath that they wont tell if they do they die :D:D hahah come on spill it out :P

[beeza]

BumP!

Any video's at the quarter?

[datzlr]

how much was this setup ?

[Brendan_Man]

the setup cost around the 10-12 mark and no sorry i dont have any videos atm but as soon as i get some footage it will surely be up :)

[vinnY]

saw this car on the weekend, still looking good brandon :)
wing could do with a polish and wax though :p

[tangyoonee]

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?142317-First-and-Last-H23A-Blue-EK-Pure-perfomer-NSW

evolution H2B kit with B box is exactly what I wish to do at the moment before I say good bye to my luved EK with H motor(link above)
I might end up keeping it after this lol.
Benson can you please tell me where I can get this done?
thanks