jazz king springs - post up your quotes

[redmugenjazz]

Hey all jazz owners

i'm thinking of lowering my car but rather go the cheap king spring option rather than a few grand for c/o. Could you guys post up some prices/quotes u got for lowering your jazzes. thanks in advance

[kongfu]

waste of $ you will regret

[M@lew]

Last time I checked for the coils I want it was around $1800 + around $150 for install + $70 for alignment.

Got my S-Tech springs done for $300 + $100 install + $40 alignment because they couldn't do the back.

[redmugenjazz]

waste of $ you will regret

why is that? i'm not going track everyday so i dunt really need some really HC suspension. But whats bad about springs

[preludacris]

i heard they sag after a while. not the greatest quality.

most ppl recomend the teins.

[kongfu]

i heard they sag after a while. not the greatest quality.

most ppl recomend the teins.

+1:thumbsup:

[kongfu]

why is that? i'm not going track everyday so i dunt really need some really HC suspension. But whats bad about springs

go and try by yourself you will find out:thumbsup:

[hondajazz2005]

go and try by yourself you will find out:thumbsup:

totally agree to kongfu. rather save the money up and do it good the first time.

[bc143]

tein is one of the better one if not the best. it's firm but more on the comfortable side then king hard rock n bouncy
btw i'm using tein too

[redmugenjazz]

hmm i'm thinking of rear springs, and front coilovers - well this is the cheap option, would this be an alright option wrt to handling or is it just epic fail?

[M@lew]

Wouldn't be that bad, but I reckon it'd be hard to change after should you want to. i.e. Pretty hard to sell/buy only fronts or only rears unless you find someone willing to split i with you or someone who has done the same thing.

[redmugenjazz]

Wouldn't be that bad, but I reckon it'd be hard to change after should you want to. i.e. Pretty hard to sell/buy only fronts or only rears unless you find someone willing to split i with you or someone who has done the same thing.

i was thinking of buying these 2nd hand and buy new springs for rear. link below

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107729&highlight=zeal+jazz

[magii]

would be kinda weird because the coilovers would have different spring rates to the king springs, also in the rears, you would be using stock shocks, which are different to the front coilover shocks. not sure if it would be epic fail or not, but i wouldnt do it.

either save up for decent springs, or just save up for coilovers

[kongfu]

would be kinda weird because the coilovers would have different spring rates to the king springs, also in the rears, you would be using stock shocks, which are different to the front coilover shocks. not sure if it would be epic fail or not, but i wouldnt do it.

either save up for decent springs, or just save up for coilovers

a lot of weird ppl these days its understandable

[VT1-R]

tein springs is abit low.. but is much better quality than kings..

[silvabullit]

Can anybody tell me if the new City runs the same struts/springs as the Jazz?? I know engine/gearbox comes from Jazz but wondering if suspension is the same as well??

If they do then it won't be long before my new City sits a lil lower to the ground!!

[kongfu]

Can anybody tell me if the new City runs the same struts/springs as the Jazz?? I know engine/gearbox comes from Jazz but wondering if suspension is the same as well??

If they do then it won't be long before my new City sits a lil lower to the ground!!

City and Jazz different car of course different part number:honda:

[silvabullit]

I know they are a different car but the suspension set up as per brochure for Jazz/City is identical so might be a chance they have used same suspension set up.

will investigate further....

[redmugenjazz]

oh all new city, i seen one around, i looks quite nice. its kinda sad how its using the jazz engine, at least honda shoulda dropped in a k series or new gen civic engine.

[preludacris]

^^ then it would be a civic.. lol. but yeah i get what u mean. stil weak 1.5

[bc143]

after all it's a budget car aim entry level just trying something a bit more then jazz/fit to make more money (they wish) but as local economy n this bad pricing seems like it won't be around for too long just like concerto many years ago.
sorry for off topic
about the king spring seems most of the user (those who buy it) did end up regret it n sold so i won't suggest ppl buying it. the coil overwith new shock will be perfect as the rebounce n damping is different to stock one some even adjustable so that's the main $$ for (i think)

[silvabullit]

I was looking at going Koni adjustable sports with King springs. Both compliment each other and work well on many previous cars I have put them on. I have never had a set of King spring sag. Most who think they get sag isn't caused by the springs but moreso by traling arm and other suspension bushes getting a workover by running at an angle different from stock settings. I always loosen such pivots in suspension off and re-index them to stop bushes from getting a flogging and going soft which is where you do get a lot of this so called "spring sag".

The suspension wholesaler I deal with pointed this out to me many years ago.

FYI I get King spring lows or superlows for roughly $220 - 260 set depending on the car.

[bc143]

i would say it's KONI 's great job rather then Kings' effort but as long as you r happy with it n King is good price why not :)

[EG5]

running coilovers front and not changing the rear shock will make the car handling suffer

(imbalance damper front and back)

I'd suggest either change the springs only ( keep the stock shocks) or change it to full coilovers.

Don't do it half/half

[Slow_Dan]

I have done it on my RX7, different set of coilovers for front n rear, and they work great, not quite sure what you mean by car handling suffer if our friend here wants to run coilovers front, n lowered rear springs? it can be done, n depending on what u mean by car handling, it defers from driver to driver. i like the idea, try it, n u may be surprised at the outcome ;)

as for kings, they good price, n yes they may sag after a while, but depending on your budget, it may be well worth it. i have mates who had it on n never complained. i had teins n must admit they r pretty good, but they cost a lot if u buy them here, get them imported personally if u were to buy teins.

[redmugenjazz]

i would rather go full coil over kit but it cost $$$, so since these front c/o are cheap, i rather get them second hand and use stock rears with lowered springs for the time being until i find rears for sale. with regard to handling, i won't go crazy on corners but just want the height lowered on decent quality suspension.

[ksl]

you should save up and buy the full set of c/o, it will be unmatch if you running stiff at the front, and soft on the rear.

i think u will get alot of understeer if you run that combo

[riruiz_88]

not many people know, but king springs have had a warranty policy against sagging by more than 10mm. but make sure you keep ALL receipts. if your just after a drop and nothin else, by all means for for Kings. I have them in my EG for bout 2yrs now and no problems.

[VT1500]

Hey all jazz owners

i'm thinking of lowering my car but rather go the cheap king spring option rather than a few grand for c/o. Could you guys post up some prices/quotes u got for lowering your jazzes. thanks in advance
Hi redmugenjazz,

I too am considering lowering my 07 Jazz, I purchased some Eibach Springs from The US, put them in the car and a quoted lowering amount of 1.6"F and 1.3"R, they dropped the Rear by 2"+ and the Front still too high for my liking, I too have heard reports of Kings problems too, and seriously considering going the Teins as well, but there is also two diffrerent types to suit the GD3, one for the Thai market, one for the Japanese, they offer different drops in Ride height.

Japanese spec part number SKA04-S1B00
Thailand spec part number SKA04-SZB00AC

Ride height drop of
Japanese spec is Ft -45mm Rr-50mm
Thailand spec is Ft-29mm Rr-60mm

I have fitted 17" PDW Nova to my car and am looking to drop the Front by 50mm and the Rear by 30mm, I am still deciding as to which will be the better, but they both will drop the Rear too much for my liking, I like to have the same amount of gap between the Guard to the Tyre front/rear not it dragging its arse on the ground like it was with the Eibach's Prokit when they were in the car, since removed and back to factory springs.

[redmugenjazz]

hey vti1500, i had purchased some t1r springs since this post, apparently u are having the same problem with ride height aswell, the front seems to be slightly higher than the back. my friends springs needed time to sag in and achieve its 'rated height' but it might depend on how old ur suspension is and as some can go lower on shocks developed specifically for the lowering springs.

[VT1500]

Hi, what are T1R Springs?
Yes when I fitted the Eibach's it was still nose up, something I do not want, I am after all suggestions as which is the best way to go for this car, as I am waiting to hear from Eibach America, as to what they are planning to do, or I will just go and purchase another brand, but everyone seems to only offer the same in lowered ride height.
I am seriously thinking of the Jap Spec Teins, and then run a spacer under the Rear coils to bring the back up?

[VT1500]

I found what the T1R springs are sorry for being so dumb.

[redmugenjazz]

Hi, what are T1R Springs?
Yes when I fitted the Eibach's it was still nose up, something I do not want, I am after all suggestions as which is the best way to go for this car, as I am waiting to hear from Eibach America, as to what they are planning to do, or I will just go and purchase another brand, but everyone seems to only offer the same in lowered ride height.
I am seriously thinking of the Jap Spec Teins, and then run a spacer under the Rear coils to bring the back up?

tlk about being dumb, the spacer idea is acutally quite smart/cheap idea but i dunno if it will affect handling/safety in anyway. since the front seems to sit a little too high, i'm thinking of getting front coils and rear keep stock. but if u go that option u might aswell go full coilovers.

[VT1500]

Yes actually thought and tried that option as well, keeping the slight lowered Eibach's in the front and the Standard's in the rear, but still not to my liking, maybe I am too fussy ha ha ha.
There is someone selling some coil overs on Ebay, they are G4 adjustable coil overs from justjap auto imports, not sure as what they are like but the price is amazing @ 899.

[redmugenjazz]

yea i noe saw those CO immediately after i installed my springs, that is worth it for that price but i dunno how well they are performance wise, (at least they're adjustable) has there any reviews it?

[VT1500]

Yes had a bit of a look and as most people are saying its a matter of personal preference, but they not to everyones liking it seems. most are saying to spend a bucket load on really good ones, mostly for track use, but I am only using for the day 2 day street use in sydney, also bit concerned about warranty and insurance issues when fitting CO, also there is some photo's of a R33 Skyline with apparent breakage of this type of unit, but as suggested they should be fine for day 2 day use.
I am going to call my local Spring guy to see what he can suggest about the Eibach's I have got to maybe reset the Front 1" lower, hopefully it can be done, or I am seriously considering the Tein S-Tech and run a spacer pad under the rear, cause I am wanting the front to come down by nearly 2" and the rear 1" to give the right stance:honda:I have sent some photo's to show the car as it was with its arse dragging and it back to stock height

[redmugenjazz]

so ur getting into contanct with the manufacturers? what could they do about it since its just stock non adjustable? looking at the 5th phot the car seems slightly higher than my one on t1r. apparently the t1r and tein s-tech are comparable. i'll post up a pic of my height when i find the folder,

[hisoka]

buy d2 suspension, its cheap and works a treat.

better then homosexual king springs. had them on my EK civic , and the car was getting lower and lower lol and handled shitter and shitter

[VT1500]

Hi redmugenjazz

Yes been in contact with Eibach USA, still waiting for an answer to the outcome, going to call local spring guy and see if I can get the fronts reset 1" lower, then I will be a happy camper lol, or if can not be done I am going to buy the TEINS.
Looking forward to your photos.

[0101]

HI VT1500, I hv install the same Eibach spring on my 2003 Vti Jazz as well and have the same problem with you. The rear gap is much lower than the front, I only hv just 1 finger space at the rear and almost 3 fingers at the front which I dont like because I purchased the spring from my mechanic and I ask him. Then he ask the guy who sold the springs to him and the answer is this is normal because it will level the car by less gap at the rear !!............also I have the problem at the rear tyres after the springs installed caz it is too low so if I drive over the hump too quick the tyres will hit the gutter of the car (do u have this problem) so I was thinking to save a bit more money and purchase the Tein Coilover...............how much did you quote for Tein C/O ???

[VT1500]

Hi 0101,
Its rather annoying for this to happen as I have been in contact with Eibach USA, and basicly they have told me they have never heard of this happening lol, I was thinking of putting Tein S-Tech springs in the car not coil overs, but have since called my local suspension guy at Brookvale, and they tell me they can get the Front Eibach springs reset 1" lower, which as we both know will even the gap from Guard to Tyre Front to Rear, getting rid of the look of having 200KG in the back of it constantly, as for your tyres hitting the Rear, I got a Panel Beater mate to move the screw that holds the Bar to the Quarter Panel(moving it about 2" further up into the Quarter/Bar area by shortening the Black Bar Bracket and relocating the Screw), I have also had my Guards rolled, as I have 17" wheels(17" x 7" +40), now when i put people in the back it doesn't scrub. Hopefully I can get these Springs Reset soon as I am sick of looking at it back to the factory spring height. P.S. I am still waiting to hear from Eibach USA, to see what reason they have come to regarding why this is.

[VT1500]

Hi,
Just installed the Eibach Springs back in the car after having the front reset 1" lower and its sits perfectly, just the way I wanted it to. Now I have the same gap from the top of the tyre to the guard, front n rear, when I get a chance I will post some pics. Now the car looks like its been lowered properly.

[VT1500]

Hi, thought i would add some pics

[redmugenjazz]

ahahah tru tru, i don't need to post mine up, so what did they do to your springs to get it lower?

[VT1500]

I am not really sure as to what the exact process is, but the result was more than worth it, even jacking the car up they are still located firmly in place and do not move, the Springs were only away for 2 days and returned to me.
I am so happy with the way the car looks and finally sits the way I had wanted from the start.

[redmugenjazz]

Hi 0101,
the screw that holds the Bar to the Quarter Panel(moving it about 2" further up into the Quarter/Bar area by shortening the Black Bar Bracket and relocating the Screw),

which bar?? where's wally

[redmugenjazz]

sounds like they compressed ur springs?

[preludacris]

any word from eibach?

[VT1500]

The Rear Bumper Bar attaches to the Quarter Panel by a Screw located close to the Point end of the Bumper Bar at the Wheel Arch, there is a plastic bracket which is attached to the Quarter Panel of the Car, I simply undid the Screw, and with a little pulling on the Bumper Bar, it comes away from the plastic Bracket.
I then shortened the Black Plastic Bracket by 2", and then pushed the Bumper Bar back onto the Bracket, and marking where there is a hole from the Bumper where it goes through the Bracket, I put the Screw back in, I have also had the Guards rolled just to make sure, hence now it does not Scrub with 17" Wheels.
I had to do a quick delivery tonight on my way home from work, I put nearly 200kg in the boot and it was perfect.

[VT1500]

Hi, they basicly told me that they have put the same springs into their FIT over there and there isn't a problem, and they were at a loss as to why it had happened, so that's why I decided to get the Eibach's reset 1" lower from where they were sitting in my car, as you can see it is sitting nicely now, with nearly the same gap from guard to tyre front and rear, as I had wanted from the start.

[bestjazz101]

i have king springs in my fronts and stock at the back...running on 17" wheels, its a little bouncy so im changing to G4 ajustable coilovers!

[VT1500]

I had made enquiry with King Springs, but they did not offer anything low enough for my liking, I bought the Eibach Prokit Springs from the US, andf fitted them only to find they too were not what I was after as the Rear dropped by 2" and the Front only 1/2" to 3/4", so I sent the fronts away and had them Reset 1" lower, now the car sits where I wanted it to from day one, I had posted some photo's for people to see.

[unluvedboi]

Abit of a noob... lol DIY pictures please? =P


The Rear Bumper Bar attaches to the Quarter Panel by a Screw located close to the Point end of the Bumper Bar at the Wheel Arch, there is a plastic bracket which is attached to the Quarter Panel of the Car, I simply undid the Screw, and with a little pulling on the Bumper Bar, it comes away from the plastic Bracket.
I then shortened the Black Plastic Bracket by 2", and then pushed the Bumper Bar back onto the Bracket, and marking where there is a hole from the Bumper where it goes through the Bracket, I put the Screw back in, I have also had the Guards rolled just to make sure, hence now it does not Scrub with 17" Wheels.
I had to do a quick delivery tonight on my way home from work, I put nearly 200kg in the boot and it was perfect.