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SIRFN2
03-04-2009, 12:06 PM
I went with my brother who wants to buy a Standard EURO manual.

What we were given was 38K drive away for black/manual. No Negotiations yet. :thumbdwn:

But Dang, since late MARCH there has been a price rise has! I know its due to the current state of the financial market but !@!#, We want our EURO!

Plus theres no stock we have to wait a month or 2.

Are we getting ripped in half or what? Saw a thread previously and and 33 - 34K drive away, has anyone bought one recently, like last week? or 2 weeks if so how low did u get the price down too?

The CTR has gone down. The new White CTR is 39990 drive away with LSD.

Darkii_
03-04-2009, 01:19 PM
Check out this thread - http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=102802&page=24

wtf? they brought the CTR over in white now?

*edit* just checked honda website, holy shit white ftw back is still ugly but. fap fap fap

arthhtra
03-04-2009, 01:23 PM
38K drive away is the standard price they give anyway.. You have to negotiate first. i got quoted 37800 . but 33Kish drive away dec 08

denot
04-04-2009, 01:10 AM
if its 09 build, then its gonna be more expensive... if its 08 build, then its around 35k (the price went up last month) I got mine 08 build std auto for 34k on Feb

Joystick
04-04-2009, 07:27 AM
if its 09 build, then its gonna be more expensive... if its 08 build, then its around 35k (the price went up last month) I got mine 08 build std auto for 34k on Feb

Ditto. Got my Std Auto for $34k drive away.

aaronng
04-04-2009, 08:09 AM
Negotiate. Once you are sitting down at the table and serious, start offering $33k and then work your way up until you either reach your limit or the salesperson gives in and sells it to you. If you exceed your limit, walk away and go to another dealer. The salesperson will usually give in at the end when you are walking out.

SteveH
05-04-2009, 10:05 AM
I wouldn't be so stressed about waiting a month or two for your car if it is the one you want. I had to wait 4 and a half months for my Euro and don't regret it.

steven.lcs
05-04-2009, 10:59 AM
Just out of curiosity, do you guys pay for the Metallic and pearlescent paint ($395)?
Is it worth it?

aaronng
05-04-2009, 11:46 AM
Just out of curiosity, do you guys pay for the Metallic and pearlescent paint ($395)?
Is it worth it?

Negotiate based on the driveaway price, so they don't get a chance to put in these little "extras". Based on driveaway price, I paid $0 for pearlescent paint, mud flaps, floor mats, CTP, rego, dealer delivery and stamp duty.

tony1234
05-04-2009, 07:27 PM
Negotiate based on the driveaway price, so they don't get a chance to put in these little "extras". Based on driveaway price, I paid $0 for pearlescent paint, mud flaps, floor mats, CTP, rego, dealer delivery and stamp duty.
As Aaron said negotiate on a car with NO accessories on it at all.The dealer margin on these options is huge.

buddah51au
05-04-2009, 08:18 PM
If you have to wait 2 months it possibly means 08 stock is running low and they could be waiting for a shipment of 09 stock which would benefit your pocket long term.

steven.lcs
05-04-2009, 08:30 PM
As Aaron said negotiate on a car with NO accessories on it at all.The dealer margin on these options is huge.

So negotiate with no accessories and agree on a price, then ask them to throw in accessories? Won't they then have the excuse to increase on the agreed price?

aaronng
05-04-2009, 09:25 PM
So negotiate with no accessories and agree on a price, then ask them to throw in accessories? Won't they then have the excuse to increase on the agreed price?

I told them, I want this car, in arctic blue pearl, with floor mats, mud flaps and full tank of fuel. I want $33000 on the road. We negotiated until we hit $34500 when the salesperson accepted the paice. So I got everything for $34500 out of my pocket.

rodericb
05-04-2009, 09:43 PM
I say go in with them paying for the onroad costs with some of the cheaper accessories included in that price. Maybe another thousand or two off if it's a 2008 build!

denot
06-04-2009, 12:17 PM
note that they will always say "lets negotiate accessories later coz its different division etc etc" Then they will try to negotiate the price of your car, and after you agree with the car then they will try to raise the accessories price afterwards...

do what aarongg said, just say "I want this car with these accessories for this price" then start negotiating... the down side of this is that they might be reluctant to throw any free accessories afterwards

aaronng
06-04-2009, 01:06 PM
Yeah, they can add in any accessories that you want at that salesperson negotiation stage, even paint protection. The excuse that another section handles it and they can't add it in is not true.

primetimex
06-04-2009, 02:45 PM
Try to get all accessories that you need during the sales stage as after the sales process has concluded you'll lose any negotiation power you have and be at the mercy of the accessories sales person.

So plan what you need and put them on the list and work out a price that you're willing to pay for the car plus accessories less discount.

Dealer's separated the sales / accessories to max out their profits I think may years ago the distinction between the two is not that clear but now it is for this very reason.

After you get your accessories just skip the accessories dept altogether on your way out! :D

tony1234
06-04-2009, 04:23 PM
Try to get all accessories that you need during the sales stage as after the sales process has concluded you'll lose any negotiation power you have and be at the mercy of the accessories sales person.

So plan what you need and put them on the list and work out a price that you're willing to pay for the car plus accessories less discount.

Dealer's separated the sales / accessories to max out their profits I think may years ago the distinction between the two is not that clear but now it is for this very reason.

After you get your accessories just skip the accessories dept altogether on your way out! :D
The main problem is that the accessories pricelist in the new car showroom is dearer than if you go to Honda spares and buy them even with no discount.:thumbdwn:.I always negotiate the new car price with no options at all.

SIRFN2
06-04-2009, 04:33 PM
If i say "I want this car...." doesnt that straight away lessen your negoitation power. Coz the salesman will know you really want the car. I thought you were never to give too much away.

Then again you have to show you are a serious customer.

I am goin to push for 35K drive away with, i hope mats, full tank of petrol (which is rare these days) metallic paint.

Maybe even 34K. But he seemed like there he wasnt going to budge to much from that 38k. Im going back there this weekend. I tried 3 Honda dealers here in Syd and they all gave me the same price.

UNLS1
06-04-2009, 04:49 PM
i doubt u will get 35k. its telling u sumthing if u have tried 3 dealers and they are all giving u the same price.



and to the other bloke who said try and get a few grand less if its an 08 built car.....all the euros are 08 built and 09 complied. u cant get a car built in 09 yet.

tony1234
06-04-2009, 04:50 PM
If i say "I want this car...." doesnt that straight away lessen your negoitation power. Coz the salesman will know you really want the car. I thought you were never to give too much away.

Then again you have to show you are a serious customer.

I am goin to push for 35K drive away with, i hope mats, full tank of petrol (which is rare these days) metallic paint.

Maybe even 34K. But he seemed like there he wasnt going to budge to much from that 38k. Im going back there this weekend. I tried 3 Honda dealers here in Syd and they all gave me the same price.
Lol at full tank of petrol.The bastards usually give you less than half tank.

SIRFN2
06-04-2009, 04:54 PM
Lol at full tank of petrol.The bastards usually give you less than half tank.

Yeh it doesnt happen anymore!

Theory behind it is that when people trade cars in they dont have petrol in em so why should we give u a full tank.

COZ ur making money on your end!! ass#!@

primetimex
06-04-2009, 05:08 PM
Lol at full tank of petrol.The bastards usually give you less than half tank.

Damn right - when I bought my Euro in 03 - bastards left me very little fuel so the first thing I did straight off the dealership showroom was to fill up full tank which cost me $60 back then.

Nowadays I insist on a full tank no questions asked!

primetimex
06-04-2009, 05:09 PM
The main problem is that the accessories pricelist in the new car showroom is dearer than if you go to Honda spares and buy them even with no discount.:thumbdwn:.I always negotiate the new car price with no options at all.

If this was true then I'd be a very happy chap. In Perth, WA it seems that both new car showroom and Spare Parts work off the same pricelist so no go there.

Unless you are referring to another source for Honda spares of which I'm not aware of?

tony1234
06-04-2009, 05:22 PM
If this was true then I'd be a very happy chap. In Perth, WA it seems that both new car showroom and Spare Parts work off the same pricelist so no go there.

Unless you are referring to another source for Honda spares of which I'm not aware of?
I live in Sydney and in my experience spares were cheaper in most cases.BTW i do have a contact that gives me 10-15% off.:D

primetimex
06-04-2009, 07:28 PM
I live in Sydney and in my experience spares were cheaper in most cases.BTW i do have a contact that gives me 10-15% off.:D

No wonder! Well suffice to say things are completely different over East to the West here. I think everything car related here is more expensive and we don't really have the choice that you guys have there.

Hell yeah, if I've got a contact that gives me 10-15% off I'll exclude accessories and get them separately.

How does it work in Sydney Tony1234 - does the Spares Parts Dept completely separate from Vehicle Sales?

kevinw
07-04-2009, 11:14 PM
I live in Sydney and in my experience spares were cheaper in most cases.BTW i do have a contact that gives me 10-15% off.:D

I am interested in getting the original Honda wing rear spoiler for my CU2. Where is the cheapest to get and install it?
Thank you!

tony1234
08-04-2009, 07:57 AM
I am interested in getting the original Honda wing rear spoiler for my CU2. Where is the cheapest to get and install it?
Thank you!
If you're handy you can do it yourself otherwise a panelbeater would be your best bet.

tony1234
08-04-2009, 07:59 AM
How does it work in Sydney Tony1234 - does the Spares Parts Dept completely separate from Vehicle Sales?
Usually yes.In some cases spares are at a different address from sales.

geekmonkey
08-04-2009, 03:51 PM
White CTR sic.....

now I regret that I bought cl9

buddah51au
08-04-2009, 05:43 PM
White CTR sic.....

now I regret that I bought cl9

Why would you regret getting a CL9 over a Civic, the Euro is twice the car. Personally I can't see how they can justify a Civic being more expensive than a CU2, I know where my money would go every time.

aaronng
08-04-2009, 06:08 PM
Why would you regret getting a CL9 over a Civic, the Euro is twice the car. Personally I can't see how they can justify a Civic being more expensive than a CU2, I know where my money would go every time.

Different cars for different target markets. You can compare the FD2 Civic Sport against the Euro, but when you pit the FN2R against the Euro, the FN2R is always going to be a sporty hatch, while the Euro is a familiy sedan.

buddah51au
08-04-2009, 07:00 PM
Different cars for different target markets. You can compare the FD2 Civic Sport against the Euro, but when you pit the FN2R against the Euro, the FN2R is always going to be a sporty hatch, while the Euro is a familiy sedan.

But the new civic hatch is not a fn2r, base 1.8 liter - 103 kw

buddah51au
08-04-2009, 07:29 PM
aaronng, I am referring to the new civic SI 5 door hatch, it is a base 1.8 liter, 5 door hatch imported from UK. Sure the interior is miles ahead of the sedan but apart from that all the running gear is the same as FD1, although it has a beam rear axle.

denot
08-04-2009, 09:08 PM
buddah, but geekmonkey comparing CL9 with white CTR which is FN2R

nickxau
11-04-2009, 06:07 PM
Damn right - when I bought my Euro in 03 - bastards left me very little fuel so the first thing I did straight off the dealership showroom was to fill up full tank which cost me $60 back then.

Nowadays I insist on a full tank no questions asked!

I must be "lucky" then, coz after I sealed the deal and called up the dealership, the person said they can give me a full tank of juice for the "price" of a good feedback form... fair enough I thought, but then again, it could be coz I traded my car with HALF a tank of petrol and got ripped off with the deal... badly! :(

For those who care to read - [CU2] Advice sought for trouble with dealer (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107061)

falco
11-04-2009, 06:21 PM
Buy a VW Jetta, much better deals at the moment.

denot
11-04-2009, 10:05 PM
my friend forgot to ask regarding if the price he paid is driveaway price incl green slip 1 yr, rego 1 yr & full tank petrol. He ring the dealer the next day and the salesman agree to include them on the agreed price.

The price is 42k for manual 2008 build 2009 compliance CU2 Lux with tint, matt, boot cargo

primetimex
14-04-2009, 11:31 AM
I must be "lucky" then, coz after I sealed the deal and called up the dealership, the person said they can give me a full tank of juice for the "price" of a good feedback form... fair enough I thought, but then again, it could be coz I traded my car with HALF a tank of petrol and got ripped off with the deal... badly! :(

For those who care to read - [CU2] Advice sought for trouble with dealer (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107061)

Yeah, I always make it a point nowadays even if I'm not buying a car I advise people I know who's about to buy a car to get the dealer to fill up the tank to the full - if nothing else that's the least they can do! Don't want to get stuck out of the showroom with the petrol tank nearly empty!

tony1234
14-04-2009, 04:18 PM
You can have ours if you like, we purchased it two months ago, has 2,200kms on it and is black manual. Floor mats, tints and I will even throw in a full tank of 98 Octane fuel.
Why are you getting rid of it?

aaronng
14-04-2009, 05:21 PM
You can have ours if you like, we purchased it two months ago, has 2,200kms on it and is black manual. Floor mats, tints and I will even throw in a full tank of 98 Octane fuel.

You can't advertise your car in this section.

Fox1
15-04-2009, 06:24 AM
I was all set to purchase a Euro in February until I found this site and researched the "pinging" issue.

I wanted a Luxury Navi in auto, first price was $51,300 drive away with 5 year warranty, and 2 phone calls later it was $48,000, without me even asking for a discount. I would have purchased at $44,000. That was on a late 08 build, car was on the showroom floor (not a demo either).

Never let the dealer know you "want" the car, bargaining power will go out the window.

I have signed up for a BMW 125i coupe, should get it next week. That has been an interesting experience also, always make sure they actually have a car to sell you!! Some more advice, if you are happy with car and price, sign the contract on the basis that delivery will be completed in xxx days, once they have your deposit, they seem to be very slow in the delivery. I am scratching my head that it will take about 4 weeks to get a car from Sydney to Brisbane and give it a wash prior to delivery?

Good dealing

Fox
Sunshine Coast Qld

SIRFN2
15-04-2009, 10:13 AM
I was all set to purchase a Euro in February until I found this site and researched the "pinging" issue.

I wanted a Luxury Navi in auto, first price was $51,300 drive away with 5 year warranty, and 2 phone calls later it was $48,000, without me even asking for a discount. I would have purchased at $44,000. That was on a late 08 build, car was on the showroom floor (not a demo either).

Never let the dealer know you "want" the car, bargaining power will go out the window.

I have signed up for a BMW 125i coupe, should get it next week. That has been an interesting experience also, always make sure they actually have a car to sell you!! Some more advice, if you are happy with car and price, sign the contract on the basis that delivery will be completed in xxx days, once they have your deposit, they seem to be very slow in the delivery. I am scratching my head that it will take about 4 weeks to get a car from Sydney to Brisbane and give it a wash prior to delivery?

Good dealing

Fox
Sunshine Coast Qld

Wow, a BMW 125i coupe, thats not as much as a Euro Lux Navi is it?

Yeh the pinging issue is not a nice thought. But i want it in Manual, and the pinging issue seems to surround the auto's. Maybe someone with a Manual can tell me otherwise. The new euro's are such nice cars!

Thanks for the tips mate. I shall take them with me when I finally decide what we want.

AznEmpress
15-04-2009, 10:28 AM
I took it for granted that a full tank of fuel was a standard norm in dealerships when you purchased a new car.. with that said, when they picked my car up to (attempt to) fit the towbar - a week after official handover & vehicle delivery - they detailed the car inside-out, gave me a full tank of fuel, and a temp drive car for the day. Now that's Customer Service u can't knock! ^^

AznEmpress
15-04-2009, 10:32 AM
I've found in purchasing negotiations, u gotta do your research, discuss with the sales person via phone, and flat out refuse to walk in and waste 'face time' until a deals' been nutted out to your liking (being polite but firm of course). You'll encounter some nasty sales people but I got my car for the price of the model below with items thrown in too :)

Power to the buyer, we have the $$!!

Fox1
15-04-2009, 01:27 PM
SIRFN2

The BMW 125i Coupe that I have ordered is plenty more than a Luxury Navi. I wouldn't even have been looking in that price bracket if the Euro didn't have these issues. The dealer even told me that the pinging had been fixed (back in Feb) when Honda hadn't issued any advice on it until March. Do your research before spending any money.

primetimex
15-04-2009, 05:19 PM
I took it for granted that a full tank of fuel was a standard norm in dealerships when you purchased a new car.. with that said, when they picked my car up to (attempt to) fit the towbar - a week after official handover & vehicle delivery - they detailed the car inside-out, gave me a full tank of fuel, and a temp drive car for the day. Now that's Customer Service u can't knock! ^^

Yeah absolutely, however in some dealerships you do get some clueless knobs working there unfortunately.

Good thing is that recently things have absolutely improved! :thumbsup:

H.T
15-04-2009, 10:33 PM
Why are you getting rid of it?

I have an opportunity to lease a car through work, that I will take up if I was to sell the Euro.

unity
15-04-2009, 11:16 PM
You can't advertise your car in this section.

Hey go easy on the guy Aarong.

Originally Posted by H.T
You can have ours if you like, we purchased it two months ago, has 2,200kms on it and is black manual. Floor mats, tints and I will even throw in a full tank of 98 Octane fuel.

Sounds like he's willing to give it away for free!!!

tony1234
16-04-2009, 08:09 AM
Hey go easy on the guy Aarong.

Originally Posted by H.T
You can have ours if you like, we purchased it two months ago, has 2,200kms on it and is black manual. Floor mats, tints and I will even throw in a full tank of 98 Octane fuel.

Sounds like he's willing to give it away for free!!!
Haha Aaron he's not selling it he's giving it away.:)

aaronng
17-04-2009, 10:51 AM
Still, that's selling for $0. And this section is for discussion, not sales. He should be receiving heaps of PMs on his free car. :p

unity
17-04-2009, 03:54 PM
Still, that's selling for $0. And this section is for discussion, not sales. He should be receiving heaps of PMs on his free car. :p

Isn't all the advice that people are offering on this forum also selling for $0?

aaronng
17-04-2009, 05:15 PM
Isn't all the advice that people are offering on this forum also selling for $0?

Advice has no monetary value. :p
Hence the fine print (no warranty if you blow your engine up following my advice). Hehe

unity
17-04-2009, 07:22 PM
Advice has no monetary value. :p
Hence the fine print (no warranty if you blow your engine up following my advice). Hehe

I wish lawyers, accountants, financial planners etc adhered to those principles.

Your advice is very good. Sometimes I think you should actually receive something for the advice you give. I'm sure you wouldn't say no to that.

SPQR
17-04-2009, 08:42 PM
Advice has no monetary value. :p
Hence the fine print (no warranty if you blow your engine up following my advice). Hehe

If the provider of advice discounts its value of this advice, how good is the advice to begin with? If they are giving away the advice, doesn't this show that they don’t themselves value this advice and so it is worthless?

aaronng
17-04-2009, 10:47 PM
If the provider of advice discounts its value of this advice, how good is the advice to begin with? If they are giving away the advice, doesn't this show that they don’t themselves value this advice and so it is worthless?

You could think about it in that way. Qualified advice (the ones you get from lawyers and doctors) are worth money. But advice on a forum that is given in goodwill to help someone else out has no monetary value. It is worth it only to someone who is able to solve their problem using that free advice.

SPQR
18-04-2009, 10:28 PM
Bad advice has a price and victims.

nnn37
06-05-2009, 08:36 PM
i just finalised my negotiation today. got the buran silver 09 model (built 08 i guess) standard auto for $37K incl. rear parking sensor, mats, touch up paint, front fog lights, leather gear knob, 6 yrs warranty (3 yrs factory & 3 yrs dealership) and fuel tank of petrol.

I went to see some dealership but face to face they seemed realy firm on prices. so i decided to call around approx 7 dealerships. Got knocked back from a few but after gong back and forth from one dealer to another dealer by simply say " i got offered...etc can u match? if you can match, i can put a deposit via credit card TODAY" i finally got it. Not totally happy coz i read some posts they said they got theirs for 33 or 34K however bear in mind they have increased their prices. and if they serious cant do it, they cant do it.

also, depends on the dealer, if they have stocks that they purchased prior to the price increase, theycan do it cheaper for u.

oh sh*t i just realised i didnt ask for metallic or pearlescent. i thought it would come with the colour you choose... far ou... arggghhhh




If i say "I want this car...." doesnt that straight away lessen your negoitation power. Coz the salesman will know you really want the car. I thought you were never to give too much away.

Then again you have to show you are a serious customer.

I am goin to push for 35K drive away with, i hope mats, full tank of petrol (which is rare these days) metallic paint.

Maybe even 34K. But he seemed like there he wasnt going to budge to much from that 38k. Im going back there this weekend. I tried 3 Honda dealers here in Syd and they all gave me the same price.

kevinw
06-05-2009, 09:08 PM
Congrats on your purchase. :)

You have a pretty good bargain already.

Buran silver is metallic.





i just finalised my negotiation today. got the buran silver 09 model (built 08 i guess) standard auto for $37K incl. rear parking sensor, mats, touch up paint, front fog lights, leather gear knob, 6 yrs warranty (3 yrs factory & 3 yrs dealership) and fuel tank of petrol.

I went to see some dealership but face to face they seemed realy firm on prices. so i decided to call around approx 7 dealerships. Got knocked back from a few but after gong back and forth from one dealer to another dealer by simply say " i got offered...etc can u match? if you can match, i can put a deposit via credit card TODAY" i finally got it. Not totally happy coz i read some posts they said they got theirs for 33 or 34K however bear in mind they have increased their prices. and if they serious cant do it, they cant do it.

also, depends on the dealer, if they have stocks that they purchased prior to the price increase, theycan do it cheaper for u.

oh sh*t i just realised i didnt ask for metallic or pearlescent. i thought it would come with the colour you choose... far ou... arggghhhh

primetimex
06-05-2009, 09:17 PM
Congratulations on your purchase nnn37 and don't worry all Euro's are metallic by standard, manufacturer (Honda) just decided to stick a $300 "tax" on metallic paint - so this is perhaps where you could push the dealer a bit more for last drop of discount :p

tony1234
06-05-2009, 09:34 PM
Congratulations on your purchase nnn37 and don't worry all Euro's are metallic by standard, manufacturer (Honda) just decided to stick a $300 "tax" on metallic paint - so this is perhaps where you could push the dealer a bit more for last drop of discount :p
Charging extra for metallic paint is a scam.I've been told by reliable sources that it costs no more than non metallic and requires no extra preparation to apply.

nnn37
06-05-2009, 09:45 PM
thanks KevinW and Primetimex.

Phew thats a relief. i was so stressed out. thats the price for knowing so little about car lol :cool:

just funny how Honda decided to increas their prices when its recession....


Congratulations on your purchase nnn37 and don't worry all Euro's are metallic by standard, manufacturer (Honda) just decided to stick a $300 "tax" on metallic paint - so this is perhaps where you could push the dealer a bit more for last drop of discount :p

primetimex
06-05-2009, 11:54 PM
just funny how Honda decided to increas their prices when its recession....

No worries nnn37, yes Honda has seen fit to jack up its prices overall by $3,000 since 2008 on its vehicles despite recession.

This is most probably because despite the price increases, from what I have seen here in Perth, it has not stopped their vehicle sales - rather sales have remained steady and interest have not abated on the new CU2 Euro and it seems that the dealer where I bought my 09 Euro does not seem to be aware of the dreaded pinging issue!

While Honda makes excellent cars, the charge for metallic paint is a cheap grab for your cash and I have also found it very difficult to knock any more than $2,000 off the RRP for the Euro here in Perth WA (despite having bought Honda's off the same dealership since 1989)

UNLS1
07-05-2009, 11:13 AM
thanks KevinW and Primetimex.

Phew thats a relief. i was so stressed out. thats the price for knowing so little about car lol :cool:

just funny how Honda decided to increas their prices when its recession....

do some more research to find out why the prices have gone up.

look into exchange rates esp jap to AUD.

do u want to be able to buy a honda in a few years time? or should honda just sell all cars at a loss?

clayton4115
07-05-2009, 01:06 PM
buy secondhand 2 years old and save $$$$ thousands

SPQR
07-05-2009, 10:36 PM
do some more research to find out why the prices have gone up.

look into exchange rates esp jap to AUD.

do u want to be able to buy a honda in a few years time? or should honda just sell all cars at a loss?

Exchange rates have more or less stabilised. Whilst not at pre-GFC levels, they are as good as they were and at levels at which a prudent car importer might have done their calcs at when making a price-point decision in May 2008, to launch a new car on the market.

The Feds are handing out play money at a loss: We find out next week how many future generations will be affected by the current government's eagerness to plunge us into financial catastrophe. But I don't believe that Honda is losing money. Unlike GM/Chrysler/Ford.

Honda has an excellent range of economical cars that are just the ducks nuts in world car markets, including OZ.

dj_s2k
12-05-2009, 08:43 AM
Hi all,

i've succumbed to the alluring looks and feel of the CU2 and I am looking to purchase a std model in Manual though i'm looking to finance from dealer. Been researching the forums for info prior to purchase and came across this thread which I find very interesting. I've worked as a salesperson for about 5 years and I know how the game is played (well with electronical equipment anyway). Whether its the same for selling cars i'm not sure. The one thing i know from selling electronical equipment is that when a customer wishes to purchase something on finance I am unable to give "big" discounts as the retailer gets hit with finance charges which obviously is dependant on the terms of the finance but ranges anywhere from 9.34% - 15.84%. Just wondering whether anyone bought their CU2 through finance and whether you were still able to bargain a price?

On a second note i'm still unsure as to when i should purchase the car. I was looking at purchasing a Euro back in late '07 (around the Sept-Nov period) and from memory there were heaps of deals going on with free CTP, stamp duty and taxes and what not and i was offered $30k flat for a std euro. Was it just a fluke at that time or do you think that the "specials" will be around again at the same time this year? 'Cause i'm in no real rush to buy the car seeing as my EK is still doing me fine. So if i can save a few thousand by waiting a few months i will. Having said that though just the thought of driving a brandspanking new CU2 has got me hot on the heels to start shopping around already.


Thanks in advance guys :D

buddah51au
12-05-2009, 09:50 AM
Hi all,

i've succumbed to the alluring looks and feel of the CU2 and I am looking to purchase a std model in Manual though i'm looking to finance from dealer. Been researching the forums for info prior to purchase and came across this thread which I find very interesting. I've worked as a salesperson for about 5 years and I know how the game is played (well with electronical equipment anyway). Whether its the same for selling cars i'm not sure. The one thing i know from selling electronical equipment is that when a customer wishes to purchase something on finance I am unable to give "big" discounts as the retailer gets hit with finance charges which obviously is dependant on the terms of the finance but ranges anywhere from 9.34% - 15.84%. Just wondering whether anyone bought their CU2 through finance and whether you were still able to bargain a price?

On a second note i'm still unsure as to when i should purchase the car. I was looking at purchasing a Euro back in late '07 (around the Sept-Nov period) and from memory there were heaps of deals going on with free CTP, stamp duty and taxes and what not and i was offered $30k flat for a std euro. Was it just a fluke at that time or do you think that the "specials" will be around again at the same time this year? 'Cause i'm in no real rush to buy the car seeing as my EK is still doing me fine. So if i can save a few thousand by waiting a few months i will. Having said that though just the thought of driving a brandspanking new CU2 has got me hot on the heels to start shopping around already.


Thanks in advance guys :D

end of financial year sales will be coming around soon, that is when you normally get the bast deals.....free CTP, 5 year warranty etc. If you have a good credit rating you can really bargain on interest rates at the moment. That is when I would but if I was in the market now.

Bobjones
12-05-2009, 10:09 AM
Wait until EOFYS...you will get a bargain...

Oh and for the record, those winging about the $300 metallic paint...by volume most car manufactures get charged $20 per tyre...as a point of comparison...so imagine how much there is in most of the car...and that metallic paint would cost about an extra $0.50 than standard per car...nice profit...

primetimex
12-05-2009, 10:52 AM
Oh and for the record, those winging about the $300 metallic paint...by volume most car manufactures get charged $20 per tyre...as a point of comparison...so imagine how much there is in most of the car...and that metallic paint would cost about an extra $0.50 than standard per car...nice profit...

A really nice little earner per car for metallic paint! When I buy Honda anyways I always make it a point that metallic paint gets thrown in "free-of-charge" and then start my negotiations from there!

SPQR
12-05-2009, 11:28 PM
If people would stop buying "Milano Red" Euros, metallic paint would be standard across the range and then they couldn't charge more for it.

dj_s2k
17-05-2009, 10:30 PM
Hi All,

Well I did it today. After many weeks of carshopping and research i bought myself the CU2 :D Ended up costing $34,800 with the following included:
- On roads
- Mats
- Tints
- Towbar
- Full tank of fuel
- Street directory
- and to make the deal even sweeter the salesperson chucked in a bottle of wine haha.

I got a brand new manual CU2 in Volcano grey. I probably could've hit them up for more of a discount but i walked out of the house this morning promising i wouldn't spend more than $35,000 on the car including all the accessories that i want. Very happy indeed. And now the painful part.... the waiting game :S 11 days and counting till my car arrives...

kimnkk
18-05-2009, 02:11 AM
I got a brand new manual CU2 in Volcano grey. I probably could've hit them up for more of a discount but i walked out of the house this morning promising i wouldn't spend more than $35,000 on the car including all the accessories that i want. Very happy indeed. And now the painful part.... the waiting game :S 11 days and counting till my car arrives...

Congrats dude! Don't forget to post up lots and lots of pics of your new baby :D

centurionau
18-05-2009, 09:41 AM
Is this a 2009 build date?

drydenim
18-05-2009, 01:28 PM
do some more research to find out why the prices have gone up.

look into exchange rates esp jap to AUD.

do u want to be able to buy a honda in a few years time? or should honda just sell all cars at a loss?
The AUD has gone upwards recently... Anyway did Honda drop prices when the AUD was at a high last year against the USD and Jap. yen? :rolleyes:

denot
18-05-2009, 01:40 PM
The AUD has gone upwards recently... Anyway did Honda drop prices when the AUD was at a high last year against the USD and Jap. yen? :rolleyes:

u sed it yourself drydenim "RECENTLY" is the key word... most current stock (or the one still on the way here) is purchased way before when AUD is still low... anyway, maybe UNLS1 can clarify this... also once price go up, its not likely to go down again for a while...

ozscott
18-05-2009, 04:54 PM
I see that on page 5 someone has scored an auto....I posted about that but thats a great help thanks

ozscott
18-05-2009, 05:56 PM
i just finalised my negotiation today. got the buran silver 09 model (built 08 i guess) standard auto for $37K incl. rear parking sensor, mats, touch up paint, front fog lights, leather gear knob, 6 yrs warranty (3 yrs factory & 3 yrs dealership) and fuel tank of petrol.

I went to see some dealership but face to face they seemed realy firm on prices. so i decided to call around approx 7 dealerships. Got knocked back from a few but after gong back and forth from one dealer to another dealer by simply say " i got offered...etc can u match? if you can match, i can put a deposit via credit card TODAY" i finally got it. Not totally happy coz i read some posts they said they got theirs for 33 or 34K however bear in mind they have increased their prices. and if they serious cant do it, they cant do it.

also, depends on the dealer, if they have stocks that they purchased prior to the price increase, theycan do it cheaper for u.

oh sh*t i just realised i didnt ask for metallic or pearlescent. i thought it would come with the colour you choose... far ou... arggghhhh





Mate - how did you get this car for this. Just with the rear park sensors, on the road in Qld including dealer delivery of about $1800 plus GST, and stamp duty etc its $42,000 before any discounting....

Cheers

moo moo nel
24-05-2009, 05:38 PM
Hi All,

Well I did it today. After many weeks of carshopping and research i bought myself the CU2 :D Ended up costing $34,800 with the following included:
- On roads
- Mats
- Tints
- Towbar
- Full tank of fuel
- Street directory
- and to make the deal even sweeter the salesperson chucked in a bottle of wine haha.

I got a brand new manual CU2 in Volcano grey. I probably could've hit them up for more of a discount but i walked out of the house this morning promising i wouldn't spend more than $35,000 on the car including all the accessories that i want. Very happy indeed. And now the painful part.... the waiting game :S 11 days and counting till my car arrives...

auto or manual?

drydenim
24-05-2009, 05:53 PM
I got a brand new manual CU2 in Volcano grey.
Answer's right there ;-)

moo moo nel
24-05-2009, 06:42 PM
woops sorry my bad

anyway

my brother bought a base model CU2 manual yesterday paid $34k driveaway

dj_s2k
24-05-2009, 10:20 PM
woops sorry my bad

anyway

my brother bought a base model CU2 manual yesterday paid $34k driveaway

Awesome! How long is he waiting for the car? From what i was told on friday i should be getting mine this wednesday :D

Did your brother get any accessories with the car? I was offered $32k for an ex-demo Euro at trivett in Parramatta when i was shopping for my car. I think i could've bargained it down to $30k for the car cause the salesperson looked a bit desperate but it wasn't my colour.

moo moo nel
24-05-2009, 10:28 PM
Awesome! How long is he waiting for the car? From what i was told on friday i should be getting mine this wednesday :D

Did your brother get any accessories with the car? I was offered $32k for an ex-demo Euro at trivett in Parramatta when i was shopping for my car. I think i could've bargained it down to $30k for the car cause the salesperson looked a bit desperate but it wasn't my colour.

he is picking it up on Tuesday

the 32k ex-demo one in Parramatta, was it the silver one sitting at the carpark?

dj_s2k
25-05-2009, 12:24 PM
he is picking it up on Tuesday

the 32k ex-demo one in Parramatta, was it the silver one sitting at the carpark?

yups. It wasn't in bad condition. Had one or 2 minor scuffs near the footwells (on the drivers side) and overall wasn't too bad of a car. Just the colour i didn't particularly like. And the fact that its ex-demo. Cause i know i gave the Accord euro a good beating when i test drove it :P

gbrm
25-07-2009, 06:25 PM
Any updates on the current buy prices? Also, has anyone got an 09 build - called the 2010 model? Appreciate any thoughts around the changes with this model relative to the 2009 (08 build/09 compliant) model. My research suggest the prices have gone up by roughly $2000 since Apr/May...

MiSloVic
27-07-2009, 02:17 PM
Any updates on the current buy prices? Also, has anyone got an 09 build - called the 2010 model? Appreciate any thoughts around the changes with this model relative to the 2009 (08 build/09 compliant) model. My research suggest the prices have gone up by roughly $2000 since Apr/May...

has it 'gone up' because it is now mandatory to publish driveaway prices? previously, almost all dealers advertise RRP, with super duper fine prints for things like dealer delivery fees, govt taxes, CTP, rego, etc. these usually adds up to about $2k.

UNLS1
27-07-2009, 02:50 PM
only changes to 2010 euro is black parcel shelf.

albii
27-07-2009, 03:33 PM
I think some of u guys are very optimistic.. Going by past experiences , Honda doesn't discount the euro and if they do it is very little to maybe offer u a 5 yr warranty. Honda japan doesn't offer incentives to the dealer as the euro is their best all round car in their line up, therefore Honda dealers can't pass discounts to the buyer. Honda is still ridding their 08 stock and have slowed production therefore you'll have to wait a fair while for an 09 in the spec u want. So go buy an 08 /09 while u still can and save some money cos there will be Jack all negotiating on a 09/10

denot
27-07-2009, 03:38 PM
only changes to 2010 euro is black parcel shelf.

Is it to where the sub is? If yes, then thank God they got their brain back @ honda design team

euronewbie
27-07-2009, 05:24 PM
Just as an FYI, I recently ordered a 2009/10 model Euro Luxury for $42K on road (business rego). Dealer has advised its build date will be June 2009 - and delivery is end of Aug.

gbrm
27-07-2009, 10:02 PM
Thanks guys. Looks like there is no major update then but for the parcel shelf - 42K is a really good deal for luxury! Even more so given there does not seem to be much room for negotiation on these models. My research indicated over 47K for these standard auto...

What are the pitfalls of buying the 08 build/09 compliant model now, relative to 09/09 model? Appreciate your thoughts and help.

mikhaelnen
28-07-2009, 05:04 PM
Just as an FYI, I recently ordered a 2009/10 model Euro Luxury for $42K on road (business rego). Dealer has advised its build date will be June 2009 - and delivery is end of Aug.

hello, euronewbie, may i know who is the dealer you placed order from, my dealer said the price is below cost. Would appreciate your help because i would like to get one too. Thanks.

denot
28-07-2009, 05:11 PM
Just as an FYI, I recently ordered a 2009/10 model Euro Luxury for $42K on road (business rego). Dealer has advised its build date will be June 2009 - and delivery is end of Aug.

Man... thats a good deal! :thumbsup:

SPQR
28-07-2009, 08:19 PM
only changes to 2010 euro is black parcel shelf.

A mixed blessing: Black shows up the dust. lol.

SPQR
28-07-2009, 08:21 PM
Just as an FYI, I recently ordered a 2009/10 model Euro Luxury for $42K on road (business rego). Dealer has advised its build date will be June 2009 - and delivery is end of Aug.

Business rego? Is that with or without GST?

mikhaelnen
29-07-2009, 02:56 PM
hello, i am a newbie. would like your advice here. thank you.
I've been quoted with a price of $51000 d/away for 09/10 luxury auto, with accessories below:

1. full modulo kit (front and rear aero bumper, side skirt, ducktail spoiler, and sports grille)

2. floor mat, interior trim set, accent lighting, door sill garnish, metallic paint, bootlip protector, door protection firm, speaker ring, sports pedal, storage pocket)

Is the price reasonable? or can i get a better deal with it? Is with standard 3 years warranty.

Thank you all

Happyroach
30-07-2009, 12:24 AM
Bought a Euro STD 2010 at Yarra Honda for 37,000 then negotiated accessories for an extra 1,400. So 38,400 with fog lights, sports pedal, rear parking sensor and mats. Paid deposit on 24th of July appointment to get car on 31st of July. Don't know if I should go ahead with the deal after reading the forums and and hearing my friend getting a 2009 lux euro in may for 38000 drive away at the Werribee Dealer. :S

Victoria

denot
30-07-2009, 12:42 PM
Bought a Euro STD 2010 at Yarra Honda for 37,000 then negotiated accessories for an extra 1,400. So 38,400 with fog lights, sports pedal, rear parking sensor and mats. Paid deposit on 24th of July appointment to get car on 31st of July. Don't know if I should go ahead with the deal after reading the forums and and hearing my friend getting a 2009 lux euro in may for 38000 drive away at the Werribee Dealer. :S

Victoria

Note that there's price increase on 1st of July... but 38k drive away for lux is too bloody cheap!

glengowan
30-07-2009, 01:47 PM
It would be interesting to know if any these fantastic deals involved a trade in, if so then the price of the new car is irrelevant as this is where they cream you.
Car dealers are not known for their generosity. e.g i traded a x-trail for $17,000 next day it was on the lot for $24,000.....really makes you feel like you got a bargain :(

P.S...And everybody in the showroom told me i good a good deal, but hey the idea is to make you feel that you had a victory but you never do'

My brother in law was in the business all his life. biggest crook i ever met :thumbdwn:

albii
30-07-2009, 02:09 PM
$38000 for a luxury? ..somebody is having a lend of you mate.Add another $6000 maybe.
For a start there were no 09s in May..

albii
30-07-2009, 02:11 PM
It would be interesting to know if any these fantastic deals involved a trade in, if so then the price of the new car is irrelevant as this is where they cream you.
Car dealers are not known for their generosity. e.g i traded a x-trail for $17,000 next day it was on the lot for $24,000.....really makes you feel like you got a bargain :(

P.S...And everybody in the showroom told me i good a good deal, but hey the idea is to make you feel that you had a victory but you never do'

My brother in law was in the business all his life. biggest crook i ever met :thumbdwn:

Spot on buddy....look at your trade in figure ppl..

denot
31-07-2009, 09:56 AM
Rade my fd2 when i bought the cu2 for 24k. They sell it for 26k the next day. Should i feel cheated as well? Oh and the fd2 has been in 5-6 accident before i trade it in... Hopefully none from ozhonda bought it off the dealer :p

albii
31-07-2009, 03:14 PM
Rade my fd2 when i bought the cu2 for 24k. They sell it for 26k the next day. Should i feel cheated as well? Oh and the fd2 has been in 5-6 accident before i trade it in... Hopefully none from ozhonda bought it off the dealer :p

bwahahahahahaha

glengowan
31-07-2009, 03:53 PM
Rade my fd2 when i bought the cu2 for 24k. They sell it for 26k the next day. Should i feel cheated as well? Oh and the fd2 has been in 5-6 accident before i trade it in... Hopefully none from ozhonda bought it off the dealer :p

Nah, you shouldn't feel cheated if you were happy with the deal then that's all that matters. just as i was happy i wanted a $20.000 changeover and i got it, how they do the sums doesn't matter.

denot
31-07-2009, 04:05 PM
Nah, you shouldn't feel cheated if you were happy with the deal then that's all that matters. just as i was happy i wanted a $20.000 changeover and i got it, how they do the sums doesn't matter.

LOL! I was being sarcastic there... I think its a pretty good deal since the car has been in accident that many times and its only 2k different from the sale price they put on (which ppl will bargain it again before they buy). so I'm happy :thumbsup::D

SIRFN2
03-08-2009, 11:19 AM
has it 'gone up' because it is now mandatory to publish driveaway prices? previously, almost all dealers advertise RRP, with super duper fine prints for things like dealer delivery fees, govt taxes, CTP, rego, etc. these usually adds up to about $2k.

Mate,

Doesnt it usually go up another $4k as oppose to 2k after all those costs? Alot of the price still have the RRP with the mini astrix on the top right of the price.

gbrm
03-08-2009, 05:48 PM
Agree with you that on-road costs are not the reason behind the increases - it was always like 3-4k usually... The reality is that Honda has put up their prices by some $3k+ since Jan this year, effectively pushing up the price point...

ozscott
04-08-2009, 08:45 AM
I am in the market for a 2008 Euro Standard Auto - black or dark grey. What would you be paying in Qld drive away for a demo type one that had done 1000-2000k from a dealer...? I mean what is the cheapest I could probably get it for (depending on individual things like that dealerships budget/sales that particular months etc).

Cheers

jimlee008
05-08-2009, 10:59 AM
Just Brought one Std AUTO at 37990 with all the accessories Fog lights, Mats, Boot trunk come with 5 yrs warranty as well.

ozscott
05-08-2009, 07:23 PM
Mate - thanks for that. Can I ask if it was metalic paint and an MY09 and finally where you got it from because that really seems like a great deal if its a brand new one and if it is an on the road price (is it?).

Cheers

denot
06-08-2009, 11:50 AM
It is Black, not sure if it is MY09 but it is the new shape. Yes that is the drive away price with 5 yrs warranty on promo... I got that from Yarra Honda VIC.

ANother dealer was trying to sell me a Demo at 35990 with 6000Km but wasn't my colour.

Jimlee... if its new it must be MY09 :)

jimlee008
06-08-2009, 11:55 AM
Well I tried a few deals even at $35K... but no one want to talk to me... may be they are not desperate hahaha

Actually I got another mate brought a EURO LUX Auto for only 40K back at Feb... looks like price increased now :-(

UNLS1
06-08-2009, 05:31 PM
bought a euro std 2010 at yarra honda for 37,000 then negotiated accessories for an extra 1,400. So 38,400 with fog lights, sports pedal, rear parking sensor and mats. Paid deposit on 24th of july appointment to get car on 31st of july. Don't know if i should go ahead with the deal after reading the forums and and hearing my friend getting a 2009 lux euro in may for 38000 drive away at the werribee dealer. :s

victoria

bullsh!t and shens!

jimlee008
06-08-2009, 05:43 PM
My say Compliance 09... with 5 Yrs warranty I am not complaining.. I remember I got a problem on my Jazz after 4 yrs, Honda charge me $400 to flash the CTV... too bad my Jazz only had 3 yrs warranty, they advise I had to pay the $700 to get it extended for another year. Rip off!!!

I suppose unless u sell your car in 1 or 2 yrs time, the "MY" date is not that curcial. in 5 yrs time our CU2 will only worth around 18K or under... hence only the KMs and how well u take care on the car counts. Remmber a car depreciate in value unlike houses...

PNR888
15-08-2009, 12:34 AM
Would like to share my good news with fellow members:
I signed up a new silver CU2 Euro Lux Manual on wed 12/08/2009 with 5 yr Honda extended warranty& roadside assist (Honda Aust chips in $200, dealer covers rest of it), Motorone Streetlegal tint($595), Floor mats ($190) for $41200 total.
Built: July 2008, Complaince: April 2009, In showroom since May2009. Odo:51km + 5km of my gentle testdrive. will get the car next monday (24/08/09) The sales person and the manager are relatively new to jobs, they were absolutely wonderful. I always want to give new people as much opportunities as possible, so they got my business.

Was hoping to get 09 built car but there is non left in QLD, (for Silver lux manual). If I insist to get 09s then have to wait til Dec 09 or Jan 2010 for delivery. and I will expect to get very little or no discount if dealer have to order one in from Japan. The one I signed up is one of the only two stock (08 built silver lux man) left in Brisbane metropolitian area. The other one was at another dealer, built sept 08, compl apr 09, ODO 86km. Advertised on their website for $41900 driveaway. (not sure if 5 yr ext warranty included or not). According to that dealer, they are going to register that car as a demo by next week if not sold prior.

ozscott
15-08-2009, 07:11 AM
well done mate - got yourself a nice machine there.

Cheers

albii
15-08-2009, 08:25 AM
Would like to share my good news with fellow members:
I signed up a new silver CU2 Euro Lux Manual on wed 12/08/2009 with 5 yr Honda extended warranty& roadside assist (Honda Aust chips in $200, dealer covers rest of it), Motorone Streetlegal tint($595), Floor mats ($190) for $41200 total.
Built: July 2008, Complaince: April 2009, In showroom since May2009. Odo:51km + 5km of my gentle testdrive. will get the car next monday (24/08/09) The sales person and the manager are relatively new to jobs, they were absolutely wonderful. I always want to give new people as much opportunities as possible, so they got my business.

Was hoping to get 09 built car but there is non left in QLD, (for Silver lux manual). If I insist to get 09s then have to wait til Dec 09 or Jan 2010 for delivery. and I will expect to get very little or no discount if dealer have to order one in from Japan. The one I signed up is one of the only two stock (08 built silver lux man) left in Brisbane metropolitian area. The other one was at another dealer, built sept 08, compl apr 09, ODO 86km. Advertised on their website for $41900 driveaway. (not sure if 5 yr ext warranty included or not). According to that dealer, they are going to register that car as a demo by next week if not sold prior.

Gotta have that cruise Roger...Congrats again mate,you'll love it.

SP23HO
30-08-2009, 04:46 PM
Has anyone bought a CU2 recently? Just wondering what kind of price people are getting at the moment.

by-life
30-08-2009, 11:04 PM
Bad advice has a price and victims.

Does bad advise will cost civil penalty?:zip:

by-life
30-08-2009, 11:08 PM
It is Black, not sure if it is MY09 but it is the new shape. Yes that is the drive away price with 5 yrs warranty on promo... I got that from Yarra Honda VIC.

ANother dealer was trying to sell me a Demo at 35990 with 6000Km but wasn't my colour.

see your contract, it must say your euro is my09 or not.

jimlee008
31-08-2009, 11:27 AM
yes it says 2009. On this side of the car, it had the compliance plate 07/09. Production date on the car is SEP 2008 on the windscreen. Actually it is very easy to spot. All 2008 production have a biege parcel shelf. all 2009 ones have black/grey. but so far I have not seen any....

Just read the news
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-business/japanese-auto-production-sinks-in-july-20090829-f2r7.html

looks like they still have too much stock in Japan. I found that Dealer will generally not interested in giving discount. The way to negoitate is set your price in mind and try to ask them for as much accessories as possible.

for Base 38K should give u all the Mats, boot trunk, Fog lights + possible the rear parking senors. If u can find a low Kms Demo, 35k-36k is possible. Lux model I heard lowest was around 43-44K D/A.

Aug/Sep is a good month to buy as they are struggling with sales budget. every order to the sales guy is gold.

tony1234
31-08-2009, 04:59 PM
Are there ANY 09 build and complied CU2s in the country.

euronewbie
31-08-2009, 05:50 PM
yep sure are - I have a July 09 build - car was delivered to me 13 Aug 09

SIRFN2
01-09-2009, 11:47 AM
Has anyone bought a CU2 recently? Just wondering what kind of price people are getting at the moment.

Had a look again two weeks ago...same prices as the start of this thread. Shop around for a good demo...you can find a gem for a great price.

My brother has given up, we are looking at Subaru Liberities.

albii
01-09-2009, 03:33 PM
Had a look again two weeks ago...same prices as the start of this thread. Shop around for a good demo...you can find a gem for a great price.

My brother has given up, we are looking at Subaru Liberities.

Have u seen the new liberty in the flesh? Would u really wanna be seen in it? It's hideous.

denot
01-09-2009, 03:36 PM
^^^ agreed

SIRFN2
01-09-2009, 03:37 PM
Have u seen the new liberty in the flesh? Would u really wanna be seen in it? It's hideous.

Yeh not a fan of the new ones, the front is nice but the back doesnt look to good.

We are looking at the model before...spec B's. Coz the new one is coming out...theyre massive discounts and drive away deals.

javiba
01-09-2009, 07:51 PM
for Base 38K should give u all the Mats, boot trunk, Fog lights + possible the rear parking senors. If u can find a low Kms Demo, 35k-36k is possible. Lux model I heard lowest was around 43-44K D/A.

Aug/Sep is a good month to buy as they are struggling with sales budget. every order to the sales guy is gold.


I have a 09 build on order eta 19 Sept.

Details: 09/10 Luxury Auto, full Modulo body kit, accent lighting, mats, boot pocket, leather gear boot (couldn't justify $670+ for the leather steering wheel) all up $47K + onroads (on-roads not in deal as I'm purchasing in Sydney and registering in ACT, so add ~$3k).

ACT dealer wouldn't talk turkey, quoted $57k driveaway. I promptly took my business elsewhere.. (and then let them know later what I achieved )

jimlee008
02-09-2009, 05:37 PM
Euro is one of their best seller, it is comparable with likes of BMW and Benz in term of Quality and price is 30% cheaper. unless if u want the Prestige, then BMW or BENZ if u want a real smooth ride, EURO beats them hands down.

Congrats to all who had purchased it...Enjoy the ride :D

buddah51au
02-09-2009, 06:02 PM
Euro is one of their best seller, it is comparable with likes of BMW and Benz in term of Quality and price is 30% cheaper. unless if u want the Prestige, then BMW or BENZ if u want a real smooth ride, EURO beats them hands down.

Congrats to all who had purchased it...Enjoy the ride :D

I agree with that comment 100%, but you need to specify 4 cyl Merc, BMW, also include Audi A4 & IS250 Lexus, none compare withe the Euro.

bluey223
03-09-2009, 03:12 PM
Hi, new Euro owner here, pick up car tomorrow. Just thought I would let prospective buyers on here know price. Euro Lux auto, 2010 model (very recent manufacture date), paid $45800. Can't wait to get it. Hope this one has no pinging probs.

jimlee008
03-09-2009, 03:33 PM
Congrats! Have they change the back parcel shelf to Black/Grey now from Cream?

bluey223
03-09-2009, 03:40 PM
Thanks. Yeah parcel shelf color change, also he said something about when you unlock the car and hold the button in it opens all the windows automatically (say on hot days and you are walking to the car from a distance and want to air the car out), and also when you lock the car and hold the button in it auto closes all windows. I think that was all the changes that are obvious.

denot
03-09-2009, 04:13 PM
Thanks. Yeah parcel shelf color change, also he said something about when you unlock the car and hold the button in it opens all the windows automatically (say on hot days and you are walking to the car from a distance and want to air the car out), and also when you lock the car and hold the button in it auto closes all windows. I think that was all the changes that are obvious.

nice! those are the two things I wish I have on my CU2 :(

jimlee008
03-09-2009, 04:24 PM
Mate, u get what u pay for... Dealers are selling 2009 model for $1000 cheaper and throw in 5 yrs warranty + roadside assistance...

But that Windows feature is very cool.. epsecially sometime we keep forgetting to wind up the window and the rain hit us.

VTECJimStar
03-09-2009, 07:16 PM
But that Windows feature is very cool..

Yep the parcel shelf colour and the windows feature seems to be the only differences that I have found.

SPQR
03-09-2009, 10:50 PM
The Honda Euro website now has a facility to give the "recommended selling price" with on road cost for each state and territory. The ACT it the most expensive with Victoria the cheapest. NT comes in second cheapest but in reality, no real deals are done here.

Try here: http://euro.honda.com.au/about-the-car_specifications.aspx

ozscott
04-09-2009, 07:57 AM
the extra 2 years of honda warranty is pretty cheap. On my 2010 I got the extra 2 for about $780 and there is no stamp duty payable on that.

Cheers

ozscott
04-09-2009, 08:15 AM
There are always small technical adjustments made as the model run progresses. To my mind getting the latest one, particularly in a new shape is good and justifies the extra, but thats just me.

I had been neglecting to use the horn because I was worried that like a current accord I drove it would sound like the usual road runner jap sound with some vibration thrown in...wastn I surprised to hear that it sounded just like...wait for it....a BMW! Very nice touch for a car marketed at the Germans....I like a nice horn..


Cheers

akira124
05-09-2009, 09:24 PM
Just as an FYI, I recently ordered a 2009/10 model Euro Luxury for $42K on road (business rego). Dealer has advised its build date will be June 2009 - and delivery is end of Aug.

Please people don't make me laugh with some of those prices people are saying they have got for their Euros. The last few mention are real prices. The people that tend to say I got this and that for xxx price are all lying. How do I know? I work for Honda and I can't even get those prices. You guys must be very high in the Honda ladder to get those prices, because I'll tell you some of these prices people are "quoting" are well below dealer purchase price. If you really got those prices show u your contract, just wipe out your name and address, because in my experience people on the internet really love to lie about what they paid too what they really paid. For the people interested in purchasing a car don't take the advice from some of these so call arm chair experts. Please euronewbie tell me which dealership is doing this price because I would like to have a word with them why they would sell a car at a 4k lost. Mate I call bullsh*t because there is no such thing as business rego. No one get business rego. It is a tax the government gets ( believe me they want their money) and all cars pays GST, stamp duty and rego. The only people who get discount are war vet, pensioner and health care card holder. Businesses that purchase 50 cars still don’t get a DISCOUNT!!!


Also for the other expert that know about the Honda dealer network and how the GFC work you have no idea at all. The cars Honda buys are purchased about a few months in advanced at a set exchange rate so that if the rates go up or down they won’t have to constantly increase or decrease prices. Just because one week the dollar is 100 yen the following it is 80 yen doesn’t mean the prices of the cars change. I don’t hear people complaining when the dollar goes down and prices of the cars are maintained.

Also for the other arm chair expert, metallic or pearl pain doesn’t cost more??? Are you a car painter or panel repairer? If your not you don’t know what you are talking about. Don’t complain about Honda’s paint cost, go to Merc or Bmw dealership and ask how much they what for metallic paint more like 2000k. All cry babies on this site. If you can’t afford a euro then don’t expect to buy one cheap. For god’s sake it just won car of the year. Try and get another car with the built quality and luxury feature for the current prices. If your not happy go buy a madza 6 then.


Best regard

One pissed off person who actual works in the industry and is a buyer as well. I hope potential buys don’t fall in the trap in believing the lies some people spin on this site because those prices ain’t real.

SPQR
05-09-2009, 10:22 PM
Dealer cost price is 25% less than list price. Always has been. Always will be. What dealers do for a deal is their business. Any attempt by manufacturers, importers or distributors to maintain a set price is unlawful under the Trade Practices Act.

Now, a dealer's margin is different again and is the amount they have to play with after they have paid overheads (rent, interest, electricity, water, rates, labor party imposed taxes not present in non-labor states, wages, etc).

Then there are the bonuses paid back to the dealers by manufacturers, importers or distributors for sales performance.

What is the true cost of a car to a dealer? Fc*k knows. But one thing is for sure, they're not going to give one away to you.:eek:

mikhaelnen
06-09-2009, 12:32 AM
euronewbie did clarified to me that 42k is not on road cost, so his purchase price is 42k + onroad cost

I just got my MY10 Euro Lux Auto with build date Jul-09, with quite a few accessories, drive away price 51k. Yes, all accessories worth around 6k.

mikhaelnen
06-09-2009, 12:34 AM
may be i did a trade-in, that's why...

jimlee008
06-09-2009, 01:42 AM
Hey sound likes angry bear is in the forum! Those low prices cannot be brand new with zero Kms... A demo at $4000-5000 cheaper than RRP is possible but not much more from there or else buy at the current Pomo with 5 years warranty.... but u don't get the new windows trick and grey parcel shelf... end of the day a sale is a sale.

One good resource, check out www.carsales.com.au look for demo and new car. there u can see who are the desperate dealers in australia.

Aug /Sep had been quiet, sales guy still have to sell a car to make up the numbers. If they make less from one, they just have to make up on an other customer. bare in mind some cars have better margin then the other. If u try the legend u can even larger discount. And always buy on the 3rd or last week of month as they need the number to get over the finish line. Good luck to new soon to be CU2 Owners, you will not regret owning one :D

javiba
06-09-2009, 10:52 AM
euronewbie did clarified to me that 42k is not on road cost, so his purchase price is 42k + onroad cost

+1 to additional info from euronewbie.

Akira maybe you should have pm'ed him in the first instance - you don't work in the ACT by any chance? You sound just like the dealer I tried dealing with who kept telling me my quotes (and mikhalelnen's) were below cost price - his bad because it cost any chance of the deal.

euronewbie
06-09-2009, 12:43 PM
Ok, seems like I may have stirred up a hornets nest here - something I certainly didnt intend to do. I was simply trying to advise other Ozhonda members what price i got for my euro.

To akira124 and others - let me clarify I few things. First my euro is a company car and I am not involved at all in direct negotiations with dealers - that is all done by our fleet company. All i have to do is choose a car and colour - and then they (fleet company) provide quotes. And due to our company car policy I can only get a car that comes in under a certain value. And i cannot get options except for mats, headlight and bonnet protectors. The car also has to have a build date not more than 3 months from delivery to me.

My car was ordered in June, build date July and delivered to me in mid Aug. As for the exact price I do have a breakdown at work of what the price was, rego, etc (but this is the fleet quote and not direct from the dealer) - I will dig out and let you guys know. But without the exact figures in front of me, I can say it was around $42K (otherwise I would have gone over my limit). I dont feel comfortable mentioning which dealer as I dont want to have them blasted but it was a dealer based in Sydney. I will also mention i was quite suprised with the price (given what i had seen on carsales and here). Armed with my quote i actually went to my local dealer as he happened to have the colour i wanted and it had a build date of June whereas the sydney dealer couldnt get me one until mid of Sept (that was what they originally said to me when quoting but ended getting it in Aug as mentioned). He also matched the fleet companys quote and told me that all dealers buy the cars from Honda at the same price (not sure how true this is??) as i quered him on the low price. Armed with the quote from my local dealer i informed the fleet company the next day as they agreed to use him (due to quick delivery) but unfortunately on the Monday the local dealer had sold the car to someone who walked in off the street (and therefore for he got a higher price for the car) so i had to end up going with the Sydney dealership.

I realise the fleet company probably has some bargaining power due to their purchasing but i just wanted to post what price is possible.

Sorry if it is perceived that I have misleed anyone with my previous post. Like others I come to Ozhonda to find out information about our cars and certainly don’t set out to post information that is BullS**t. If you want to know more details - pm me. In the meantime I will dig out the specifics (ie price ex GST, rego etc) so I can provide better specifics.

accordeuro09
24-09-2009, 02:03 PM
Hi All,

Just want to get your opinion on a quote:

Euro Lux Navi, Auto, Metalic Paint, floormats $48,500 driveaway...

Let me know what you think.

Cheers!

jimlee008
24-09-2009, 02:06 PM
RRP is $53000 10% off is good.. but consider it is end of Month salesman are pretty desperate to hit budget... How about push for another $1000 lower to close the deal :D

denot
24-09-2009, 02:16 PM
is it the 2010 model (with black real parcel shelf, etc)? if yes, thats a good deal mate!

accordeuro09
24-09-2009, 02:37 PM
Yep... MY10... and I forgot to add the Bluetooth is also included...

jimlee008
24-09-2009, 02:40 PM
sound like u got the lot..LOL... how about asking them to throw in the Modulo package :D

denot
24-09-2009, 02:43 PM
mate, is that $48,500 USD???

accordeuro09
24-09-2009, 02:55 PM
mate, is that $48,500 USD???

haha... AUD... thankfully :)

So from the comments, I take it I'm getting a decent deal then... A relief really as it's the first time I've had to do the haggling for a new car...

I took the time to shop around and a dealer that had the colour I wanted in stock... luckily for me, it happens to be the closest dealer to home too, so that's good... I suppose this late in the month the dealers are eager to get it delivered quickly to add one to make their numbers look pretty...

Now they're trying to sell me paint protection, interior protection, tinting.... any opinions on that stuff? Your advice is appreciated!

Cheers!

denot
24-09-2009, 03:01 PM
haha... AUD... thankfully :)

...

Now they're trying to sell me paint protection, interior protection, tinting.... any opinions on that stuff? Your advice is appreciated!

Cheers!

wow man, nice price you've got there! the cheapest I can get is 49,999 drive away with tint n mats only

noodleman27
24-09-2009, 03:14 PM
i got 50k drive away for auto navi with tow bar, boot lining, and mat

sounds like you got a good deal there

no need to get tint done from dealer, they charge too much, you can tint your car for around $200-250 and they probably do a better job too

paint and interior protection is a scam LOL

albii
24-09-2009, 03:22 PM
Wow $50000 for a euro lux navi....is it really worth 15000 more than a standard euro?

denot
24-09-2009, 04:17 PM
Wow $50000 for a euro lux navi....is it really worth 15000 more than a standard euro?

from the RRP (in NSW) the lux navi auto is only 10-11k more than the standard auto. If you compare to the MY08, then it wont be fair... :)

EDIT: from RRP in NSW, Standard auto to Lux Auto diff: $9k-ish. Lux Auto to Lux Navi auto diff is $2k-ish

mikhaelnen
24-09-2009, 05:13 PM
I reckon is a pretty good deal for Lux Navi for 48500 with some accessories included.

Given Lux Navi is 3000 dearer than Lux, comparatively 45500 is a really great deal for MY10 Lux Auto.

As mentioned by denot, go for it if it is a MY10 model. If you are looking for a sportier appearance, jimlee008 advice is great, go for the Modulo Kit, or upgrade yourself with Mugen kit.

All the best.

jimlee008
24-09-2009, 05:51 PM
Paint Protection is a scum. I got my Tint done by Tint-a-car cost $350 using mid-night express.. they get the whole rear window done as well.

If it is black, make sure u tell them not to polish it. The car dealer use the same cloth for all their car, it leave swril marks... :-(

Buy a clean microfirbe chamois to wash and clean your Car. That would look magnificant :D

accordeuro09
24-09-2009, 06:45 PM
Thanks for the handy advice all...

Deal's done... Picking up the car next Tuesday or Wednesday. :)

I think we'll look at aftermarket tint and protection providers as the dealer's costs are quite high in comparison.

Cheers!

furythree
24-09-2009, 10:56 PM
wow man, nice price you've got there! the cheapest I can get is 49,999 drive away with tint n mats only

wot? isnt the navi meant to be only $2k more than the luxi auto.

i only paid $43k for my luxi auto and i got tint, metallic paint, mats and spoiler. plus 5 year warranty and roadside assist. driveaway, rego etc.

so seeing as how the only difference should be like the navigation plus the bluetooth, which should be at most $3k more, why is he paying $48k... or am i missing something here. does it make that much of a difference 09/10 plate?

i paid $1k more than my friend cause of the economy at the time, but even if i got it for $42k id still feel cheated and wish asked for full body kit. Their margin is ridiculously high.


U shudve gone to another dealership and see if they can beat it lol.

denot
25-09-2009, 08:58 AM
wot? isnt the navi meant to be only $2k more than the luxi auto.

i only paid $43k for my luxi auto and i got tint, metallic paint, mats and spoiler. plus 5 year warranty and roadside assist. driveaway, rego etc.

so seeing as how the only difference should be like the navigation plus the bluetooth, which should be at most $3k more, why is he paying $48k... or am i missing something here. does it make that much of a difference 09/10 plate?

i paid $1k more than my friend cause of the economy at the time, but even if i got it for $42k id still feel cheated and wish asked for full body kit. Their margin is ridiculously high.


U shudve gone to another dealership and see if they can beat it lol.

fury, when did you buy the car? oh wait... its my08 and you buy it before they raised the price twice?

So conclusion: yep you did missed a lot of things here... :thumbsup:

denot
25-09-2009, 08:59 AM
If it is black, make sure u tell them not to polish it. The car dealer use the same cloth for all their car, it leave swril marks... :-(


so bloody true!!! never ever trust dealer to wash the car. Last time they wash my car (complementary), I've notice that they only hose it and wipe straight away. what a bunch of idiots

mikhaelnen
25-09-2009, 09:22 AM
Just FYI

My dealer quoted me $38500 MY10 base AUTO driveaway. (with extended warranty + 5 yrs roadside assistant, tinting, floor mat, full tank fuel, rear sensor, metallic)

SPQR
26-09-2009, 09:33 PM
Just FYI

My dealer quoted me $38500 MY10 base AUTO driveaway. (with extended warranty + 5 yrs roadside assistant, tinting, floor mat, full tank fuel, rear sensor, metallic)

Assuming fancy paint, that's $3,315 less than the recommended selling price ($41,815) in Sydney which doesn't include the extras you quoted above. The dealer cost price is $28,323.75 so their margin is a good $10,000. But they have to pay their fixed costs out of this (rent, interest, power, water, wages, commissions, political bribes, violins playing in background, etc).

albii
26-09-2009, 09:40 PM
Dude, there is not a $10,000 margin in the car.

SPQR
28-09-2009, 12:15 AM
^^ Margin is not the same as profit. There is not $10K profit.

albii
28-09-2009, 10:16 AM
Didn't say profit, I said margin.

praja6
28-09-2009, 10:25 PM
Hi All,

Just interesting to know... IS anyone use this people www.costpricecars.com.au

We have to pay $50 or 60 and they can give us the cost price for the car(any make). Has any of you guys use this people to get cost price and bargain for price at dealer.

Are these people legitimate? Please advise if anyone use these services.. Does it worth....How do these people get cost price(dealer pay actual price to get the car)..

Thanks

praja6
10-06-2010, 11:11 PM
Hi GUys, it seems like in the past 8months the brand new euro prices seems like reduced a lot...Seems like in May-auguest 09 people averagely paid for base auto for 37-38500 and lux for more than 45k....I bought my base model auto jan 2010 built my 10 in buron silver with honda genuine rear sensor and 5yr warranty plus premium number plate 2months ago for 34500 drive away in sydney. I can see similar price other few got recently here too... Lux auto people got it recently can see people got it for 41-42k drive away as well...

Is that mean dealers are giving more discount now compare with 7-8months ago or its the help from this forum help to reduce this much price. For me i got most info and prices from this forum, been to 3dealers and got the final price from the last one....

ANyway its a very good car, mine doesnt have any ping issue so far...........

chunsa
11-06-2010, 08:18 AM
I think it's a mix of clearing stock, exchange rate, EOFYS and possibly making way for a new 2011 model at the end of the year? (Possibility not guaranteed)

TurBIce
16-07-2010, 11:54 PM
Ill try my best for negotiations.

Im aiming for base model in auto with the normal mat n tint. and maybe rear sensors.

so i should be expecting around $34k? drive away

MikesVtec
20-07-2010, 02:53 AM
Definitely do-able Turbice

TurBIce
20-07-2010, 01:31 PM
I am going back on sat to give it a shot.

I went last sat for test drive and a general pricing

They first quoted me $42k but then I told them that's bait high. I thought it was selling for $37290 or something and he went to the manager and the manager said yes that's right and we had a starting price of $37290ish. So it pays to do research:)

I'm gonna start the negotiations on sat.
Wish me luck

TurBIce
20-07-2010, 01:31 PM
Sorry. Duplicated reply.

TurBIce
24-07-2010, 02:17 PM
Hey. Update. I'm a proud new owner of a euro lux.
$41500 on road with mat n tint.
Didn't really know what else to ask for since it comes with almost everything else.

Should I get the leather protection n paint protection thing too? They offering it for $990.00

praja6
24-07-2010, 03:14 PM
Congratulations with your new Euro purchase. Its a very good price. I wouldn't get paint protection, not sure about leather protection. I think other people got euro lux can give some suggestions..

MikesVtec
24-07-2010, 05:05 PM
41.5k is a bargain. Good job!

TurBIce
24-07-2010, 06:15 PM
Thanks guys

pick up in about 2 weeks

so what's everyones opinion on the leather and paint protection?

BeddyTear
26-07-2010, 04:02 PM
Thanks guys

pick up in about 2 weeks

so what's everyones opinion on the leather and paint protection?

Not worth the money imo. We got both when we bought our euro to see if it is worthwhile and we concluded that it wasn't worth it. It over promises what it does and under delivers.