View Full Version : 20% tint - any issues?
Ken-f
05-04-2009, 08:24 PM
I'm thinking about getting 20% tint seeing as KRudd wants us to spend the money.
My only worries is that the cops would pull you over at night because it'll seem really dark (then again, i've seen heaps of cars with 20%). And also that if you write of your car, that insurance wont pay out.
Sorry if this has been asked before, but i cant find a thread.
Please post side view pics of your car if you have tints from 20% - 35%
This is mine currently with 35% (i think) on an overcast day. On a bright sunny day, the tint seems very light.
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6599/image022a.jpg
flipfire
05-04-2009, 09:19 PM
Your tints arent 35%. They are at least 25%.
I have 35% and im able to see the background clearer through the windows.
If you dont want to be seen or anyone to look inside your car then get 15%. Its what most people have.
hughba
05-04-2009, 09:21 PM
They do seem darkish for 35% but it's very hard to tell from just one picture, as there are so many variables. I had 20% on my explorer and it was great, unless it was very bright. I'd suggest 20 with 5 on the back, or if you can get it, 15 all around.
Ken-f
05-04-2009, 10:30 PM
Nah, trust me. its 35% or lighter. Thats why i said overcast. On a sunny day, it looks like i have no tint almost. Anyone with pics?
denot
05-04-2009, 11:20 PM
...get 15%. Its what most people have.
really??? I thought below 35 is illegal...
defibros
05-04-2009, 11:22 PM
i got 20% in WA and i have no issue
Ken-f
05-04-2009, 11:27 PM
so show me a pic please! :D
seihoa
05-04-2009, 11:33 PM
15 % ull b fine esp for a euro
TONTON
05-04-2009, 11:36 PM
yeah 15' would look pimp
mine is 35% too... looks the same..
flipfire
05-04-2009, 11:38 PM
Quick google: Front 35% Rear 25%
http://www.pcmofo.com/pictures/civic4.jpg
Heres more http://www.tintmyride.ca/gallery_p4.htm
really??? I thought below 35 is illegal...
Yeah below 35% is illegal for a car, but no one really gets done for tints unless cops pick on you.
Ken-f
05-04-2009, 11:40 PM
I like 25. I wish I could get that....but 20 is the only one after 35 that teh shop has....and i think their '20' is actually 18.
stephen8512
05-04-2009, 11:45 PM
darkest legal is 35%
I had 20% on my euro and no probs
I currently have 10% on my car atm... and its a bit dark at night but its manageable
xsite85
06-04-2009, 02:10 AM
hi guys.
i have a 2008 euro with 20% tints and its perfect for the car
my car is nighthawk black can see perfectly fine inside the car even at night time..
if you go any lower %.. would be too hard to see..
35% is legal limit in NSW..
ken-f, i would advice you not to go any lower than 20%...
tiksie
06-04-2009, 02:21 AM
20% on my old EG on Sunset.
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7651/dsc00234p.jpg
Ken-f
06-04-2009, 08:24 AM
Oh man, thats perfect! I at first didn't want to go below 25% which was why I've put of tint for some time. You have one with a straight side on pic?
Crapdaz
06-04-2009, 09:08 AM
better to tint than none at all makes the biggest difference.
But i would go lower than 20% cause at night it might be harder to see also depending on how much lighting on the streets you drive.
denot
06-04-2009, 12:22 PM
hi guys.
i have a 2008 euro with 20% tints and its perfect for the car
my car is nighthawk black can see perfectly fine inside the car even at night time..
if you go any lower %.. would be too hard to see..
35% is legal limit in NSW..
ken-f, i would advice you not to go any lower than 20%...
hey xsite, post your car pics mate... i have 08 Euro with nighthawk black as well... want to see how 20% on it! Also, did you tint the wind screen? I plan to tint the rest 20% and wind screen 35%
Ken-f
06-04-2009, 12:53 PM
You CANNOT tint the windscreen. That would just be unwise and far to dangerous. I don't think any tinter would even agree to do that. lol
Crapdaz
06-04-2009, 01:08 PM
No tinter will tint the front and if they do you should report them.
The only time a tinter would tint the front is if you add a strip on the top of the windscreen.
dupac->
06-04-2009, 01:21 PM
get 5% be gangster like me
Ken-f
06-04-2009, 03:59 PM
Might as well ask here. Anyone know where I can get a good price on 20%? Lowest I've got is 295 + peeling. Apparently there is one in northside for 200. but i really cbb driving there and back.
BE.10.WU
06-04-2009, 04:00 PM
Go 5%. its dark and at night it is tricky to see out of but you can still clearly see other headlights etc.. i have had 5% on every car i have ever owned and one of my cars was ridden off by my mate driving it. he was at fault and when it came time for insurance to pay out there wasn't even a mention of it. i have never had troubles with regos or police..
This car i used to always get pulled up in because of the airbags and they never said one thing about the 5% tint ever. mind you i have never been defected in any car ive had..
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff262/jpathy/IMG_0282.jpg
This is with the sun beaming through the front window
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff262/jpathy/IMG_0314.jpg
This is with no sun hitting the car at all
dwn_boi
06-04-2009, 04:06 PM
^^ is your back wheel floating? lol looks unusual!
20% is the go, my mate has it on his euro, cant see in even in daylight but still enough to see out when driving. Though its hard to tell if its a cop behind you or a taxi lol watch out.
also with the front, afaik front tinting is only allowd 50mm down from the top, it's illigal to tint anymore
denot
06-04-2009, 04:08 PM
You CANNOT tint the windscreen. That would just be unwise and far to dangerous. I don't think any tinter would even agree to do that. lol
I know a few friends that tint their windscreen (with the brightest tinted) and got pulled for RBT etc and never got asked about the windscreen...
BE.10.WU
06-04-2009, 04:10 PM
dwn_boi, Yes it is off the ground... Normally referred to as dog legging but in other words it 3 wheels..
Tinting the windscreen is dangerous as the glue between the glass and the film may distort making it harder to see out and if the tint bubbles... well same thing really. Poor sight!
Ken-f
06-04-2009, 04:30 PM
How about prices peoples?
BE.10.WU
06-04-2009, 04:36 PM
Cost me $200 by a guy i know to get my old tint removed and 5% layed in place..
Ken-f
06-04-2009, 05:20 PM
oh man. thats gonna cost me $345. I feel ripped. Im gonna try negotiate to $300 for everything.
hotdc2
06-04-2009, 06:17 PM
5% on my old teg.. loved the fact that nobody could see in, even though it took a while to get used to how hard it was to see out. excuse the riced out racer look please. i don't know prices for the tint as it came with the tints when i bought it
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa19/onslaughtartdesign/20052008054.jpg
xsite85
07-04-2009, 04:03 AM
sure thing denot...
i will post up some picture for you tomorrow arvo...
you will be impressed..
the good thing about 20% is that you can barely see into the windows (at night), from the inside you have visibly of everything around you..
the front 2 seats you can see through it only because the front windscreen is clear by law...
lined up beside someone... they can barely see your face... only an object (yourself)
i will demonstrate with some photos for you guys tomorrow
denot
07-04-2009, 10:00 AM
sure thing denot...
i will post up some picture for you tomorrow arvo...
you will be impressed..
the good thing about 20% is that you can barely see into the windows (at night), from the inside you have visibly of everything around you..
the front 2 seats you can see through it only because the front windscreen is clear by law...
lined up beside someone... they can barely see your face... only an object (yourself)
i will demonstrate with some photos for you guys tomorrow
nice! thanks xcite! :thumbsup:
Sir_vtec
07-04-2009, 11:20 AM
I would not recommend 5% darkness. Its ridiculously dark and on a rainy day its a bitch man and when it fogs up it makes things worse. Only Du is gangster enough.
15% lowest max.
If you looks at police high patrol or unmarked cars their tints are lower then 35% easily. It shouldnt be an issue with cops.
NDU19E
07-04-2009, 01:18 PM
i had 5% for 2 years.. cops didnt touch me :)
dwn_boi
07-04-2009, 04:13 PM
if you get 5% at the rear or anything lower than 20% actually lol i'd reccomend some reverse sensors!!
Min988
07-04-2009, 04:31 PM
I'd never recommend tinting the windscreen, try wearing some polarized sunglasses and you find out why.
Just because you haven't been caught yet doesn't mean you won't be, insurance companies are touch and go some are on the ball some aren't, though 5% looks like your looking at black plastic not glass, takes away the sexy silhouette.
NDU19E
07-04-2009, 04:33 PM
if you cant see, that means you open the window :P
nahh i had reverse sensors.
Crapdaz
07-04-2009, 04:46 PM
either give TGZBOI a pm and ask him a price when he gets back.
or i can refer you to someone who charged me $250 and his an EX tintacar owner, does private.
Ken-f
07-04-2009, 06:30 PM
Was that including peelin?
crunkman99
08-04-2009, 04:55 PM
i think i have 35 at the moment but will probably go 20, can you get the rear wind sheild done?
if i get pulled over and they try to defect me i rekon i will use busses as an example they have the darkest tints
NDU19E
08-04-2009, 04:59 PM
mate, i been pulled over for the tints, but not defected. At the end of the day, it depends on the cop that wants to d1ck ya! lol
i always use "i bought the car from the dealership with these tints"
or, it used to be a Hire Car :) :)
Ken-f
08-04-2009, 07:06 PM
ahahah, nice. crunkman, yes you can do ur back screen. and I agree, some of the new busses (well the ones here in qld) i swear, must be 15 or less! I had trouble seeing OUT of them once at night.
mr_vti_s
08-04-2009, 07:46 PM
i got 5% on my 96 accord. no probs since i got it.. no defects.
power_of_dreams
08-04-2009, 08:12 PM
i got 5% on my 96 accord. no probs since i got it.. no defects.
might as well be looking at a black wall!
Crapdaz
08-04-2009, 08:13 PM
might as well go 0% :)
flipfire
08-04-2009, 08:21 PM
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c231/kicker_jace/NoPlates.jpg
tinted windscreen lol fail
mr_vti_s
08-04-2009, 11:55 PM
might as well be looking at a black wall!
yea thats true thats the downside of it specially at night..
kongfu
09-04-2009, 01:37 AM
im thinking get 5% for rear window...
currently have 20% all around not dark at all.
dupac->
09-04-2009, 09:34 AM
I would not recommend 5% darkness. Its ridiculously dark and on a rainy day its a bitch man and when it fogs up it makes things worse. Only Du is gangster enough.
15% lowest max.
If you looks at police high patrol or unmarked cars their tints are lower then 35% easily. It shouldnt be an issue with cops.
lol at night low light streets and u dont know the roads.. watch out..
islands are the worst u cannot see them
LOL lucky my car isnt slammed yet
HAHHAHA!
beware right turns at night are a bitch with 5% tints, wind ur window down
Ken-f
09-04-2009, 10:04 AM
beware right turns at night are a bitch with 5% tints, wind ur window down
Or you could just get 20% :P ahah
dupac->
09-04-2009, 10:20 AM
Or you could just get 20% :P ahah
dont be soft :)
its only tints
hahaha :)
gives you more of a challenge driving at night :p
xsite85
09-04-2009, 11:46 AM
sorry for the late reply guys..
here are some i took last night... maybe i should do some day shots
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb206/kensou75/IMG_0758.jpg
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb206/kensou75/IMG_0753.jpg
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb206/kensou75/IMG_0760.jpg
xsite85
09-04-2009, 11:46 AM
excuse my dirty euro..
denot
09-04-2009, 11:49 AM
xsite, nice bro... its not too dark after the flash as well...
anyway, did I see TV Screen inside? is yours the sat nav version or is it aftermarket?
xsite85
09-04-2009, 11:56 AM
cheers denot, i got the CL9 with sat nav unfortunately..
as you can see... from a distance you have no visibility inside the car.
you actually need a flash.. my whole car is complete 20% tints.. $200 nsw
Ken-f
09-04-2009, 02:15 PM
damn. thats a good price. I feel like im getting ripped. Thanks for the pic too :)
denot
09-04-2009, 02:58 PM
you actually need a flash.. my whole car is complete 20% tints.. $200 nsw
hey man, did you tint the windscreen 20% as well???
xsite85
09-04-2009, 06:24 PM
this pic is abit blurry.. but my windscreen is factory standard
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb206/kensou75/IMG_0667-1.jpg
mattchuej8
09-04-2009, 06:41 PM
i rekn 20% would do you nicely, i think 15% is too dark for your car and might wreck the look of it. Personally anyway. I got 15% on mine and its pretty dark windows are pretty much black on most angles.
Ken-f
09-04-2009, 09:48 PM
Yea. I actually want 25% but no were does that. I want to be able to have a sexy silhouette. hah
Tinter
10-04-2009, 02:04 PM
In the interests of clarification.......If you read the statutory requirements for the aftermarket fitting of window film throughout this country (with exception of SA where it must have 70% visible light transmission on the 2 front doors and 35 on the rear), then 35% is the legal requirement film all around.
Not, and I stress not 15, 20 or 25!
If you have that on, you potentially void any insurance claim you may have in the event of an accident and you'd better have an onus of responsibility document absolving you in favour of the film fitter who knowingly installed it illegally for you.
The legal fraternity survives on stupity and cupity and takes no prisoners.
Heaven forbid if anyone is even injured as a result of your darker than 35% film application.
It's a predicament you would not ever want to be in.
Regards,
Rob
www.cartint.net.au
Ken-f
10-04-2009, 03:05 PM
I still think 20% is not dangerous. You can see out of it PERFECTLY. I would say a good 20% is still much safer than a crapply applied 35%. I agree that anything lower unsafe no matter how good you think you are. But 20% really does not impair any visibility.
Tinter
10-04-2009, 06:14 PM
For those that don't understand the industry coding numbers.
The visible light transmission is a film specification that denotes the amount of light that we see that passes through a given film.
If you have a 20% film, it actually means you are losing 80% of the normal light that should be passing through clear automotive glass.....effectively the same as wearing sunglasses at night whilst driving.
Should another motorist pull up beside you and is intent on looking through your car's windows, then his vision is not only compromised by a 20% or less light transmission film, but then take away 80% of what's left as he is looking through a double layer and the rest is self explanatory as to why it's illegal for all and sundry.
University tests do in fact confirm that these films are deemed dangerous and irresponsible for automotive applications and why I don't nor ever had installed these types of films.
anfo2gig
10-04-2009, 07:20 PM
I've got 15% on my car, wish it was abit darker than again at night is pretty good. Got tint removed and put on for $250. Johnson Film :)
Ken-f
10-04-2009, 07:46 PM
Tinter, I know exactly what you are saying.....but it wont change the fact that many people probably even me will put 20% tint on their car. If you ask most people here with 20%, they will say thats its not that dark and easily viewable through at night.
Tinter
10-04-2009, 07:58 PM
That's been the problem with this industry for years....there is no accountability but that's not of your doing.
It's the film wholesalers and their useless inept Window Film Association of Australasia who only look at the colour of the money on the table and would sell their soul to the devil for a quick buck.
euromandeluxe
10-04-2009, 08:10 PM
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6599/image022a.jpg
Off topic - blacked out chrome door surrounds look goood! :thumbsup:
Ken-f
10-04-2009, 08:15 PM
Thanks :D
I didn't know the euro sport actually came with blacked out trim. I saw one today. I felt less....unique ahah.
AznEmpress
10-04-2009, 08:19 PM
35%'s the legal limit. Anything lower and you can get 'done'. With that said, most pple seem to have 20%'s. Apparently (per Tint Mart) the 20% and 35%'s aren't really viewably different, as it's more determined more by general lighting conditions (as everyone realizes :) )
Keeping in mind, the tint % might void your insurance..
Ken-f
10-04-2009, 10:26 PM
Thats exactly why i created this thread to see if anyone had issues with insurance. Touch wood, if anything does happen, i'll just peel off the tint before claim.
Alvis
10-04-2009, 10:40 PM
There are a few issues with window tint.
The legal tint level is 30% so I've been told (common misconception is it's 35%). Now, if the tint comes from the factory this 30% applies only to the front passenger and driver windows. However, you will notice some of the newer cars have darker back windows than front windows. And this is legal. These are 'privacy windows' - and yes I believe they are darker than the legal 30%. BUT, the difference is it's not actually a tint - it is an 'ink' in the glass from the manufacturer. Hence making it legal.
I have just had the tint done on my Civic - Midnight Express 30% front and Midnight Express 15% rear. So far I have had no problems and it looks great but I probably wouldn't suggest any darker than 15%. And if the cops are around, just wind the windows down. Easy. As long as it's not raining lol. The darker tints (ie 15%) are a little more 'metallic' looking, but the privacy is so much better, plus looks great on a white car. Only thing is because it didn't come from the factory like this I didn't get a receipt.
flipfire
10-04-2009, 10:46 PM
No your the common misconception, its 35%.
http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/downloads/vsi/vsi03_rev3.pdf
If its factory standard or if it was done before August 94 then its legal.
Highway patrol must really pick on you to get done for your tints.
Alvis
10-04-2009, 10:55 PM
Cheers mate - I stand corrected. 35% is the darkest legal tint.
Good luck with it,
Tinter
10-04-2009, 11:06 PM
There are a few issues with window tint.
The legal tint level is 30% so I've been told (common misconception is it's 35%). Now, if the tint comes from the factory this 30% applies only to the front passenger and driver windows. However, you will notice some of the newer cars have darker back windows than front windows. And this is legal. These are 'privacy windows' - and yes I believe they are darker than the legal 30%. BUT, the difference is it's not actually a tint - it is an 'ink' in the glass from the manufacturer. Hence making it legal.
I have just had the tint done on my Civic - Midnight Express 30% front and Midnight Express 15% rear. So far I have had no problems and it looks great but I probably wouldn't suggest any darker than 15%. And if the cops are around, just wind the windows down. Easy. As long as it's not raining lol. The darker tints (ie 15%) are a little more 'metallic' looking, but the privacy is so much better, plus looks great on a white car. Only thing is because it didn't come from the factory like this I didn't get a receipt.
It is actually 35%.
There are no films made for auto that come specifically with a 30% VLT regardless of film manufacturer.
The reason privacy glass is allowed to be imported on certain models of cars is that these cars come into the country under Australian Design Rules (ADR's) which are different to local state laws which allow retro fitting.
The federal authorities don't permit anything on the front doors except the normal 70% super light tint that just about all cars these days have.
It is not an ink at all but coloured tinted glass.
The only reason 15% films would appear metallic is because they would have a metal aluminium or titanium deposition included into the base polyester substrate.
15% films are also made without shiny finishes and therefore are non reflective and produce more of a better enhancement visually.
You didn't get a receipt for one of 2 reasons.......
1. The guy was cheating on the tax man and doesn't want to declare his black money and is using the illegal status as a BS ploy.
It has nothing to do with not coming from the factory like this!
2.He doesn't leave a paper trail behind in the event of an investigation into fitting an illegal film in the event of something catastrophic happening.
Hope this helps clarify some of the enormous misconceptions about window film that exists on many forums here in Australia and world over.
Regards,
Rob
(PS. Tinting and owning a film business for 35 years just in case some may think I'm not think I'm not quite qualified to give an expert opinion.)
Alvis
10-04-2009, 11:12 PM
Thanks for the comments Rob - it's great to see the professionals on the site :-D
I guesss those in the business don't even know what they are selling sometimes, and tell you things that aren't true - no wonder there are misconceptions around!
Thanks for the feedback :-)
Alvis
mofolo
10-04-2009, 11:34 PM
http://toptint.com.au/car-window-tinting.php
BLUE FADER
Fades from blue chrome to deep blue, it is scratch resistant and heat reflective, Blue Fader is available in 40%, 20%, and 5%
Blue tinting?
Is that legal?
Ken-f
11-04-2009, 08:57 AM
I've seen something similar. Looks really bad tbh. lol
Tinter
11-04-2009, 09:24 AM
http://toptint.com.au/car-window-tinting.php
Blue tinting?
Is that legal?
Fader films are illegal for general everyday automotive use and I can't understand why they are advertised.
But then again, the lack of film application responsibilty shouldn't surprise me these days even from professional installers.
These films are ideal for show cars and that's about it that never hit the road.
A blue film is available from Suntek and it has a very nice light 50% VLT and provides a look similar to that found on stock VW Golf R32's and some newer upmarket Mercedes Benzs.
Rob
www.cartint.net.au
Tinter
11-04-2009, 09:26 AM
Thanks for the comments Rob - it's great to see the professionals on the site :-D
I guesss those in the business don't even know what they are selling sometimes, and tell you things that aren't true - no wonder there are misconceptions around!
Thanks for the feedback :-)
Alvis
Thx Alvis....I'm happy to keep the comments coming, time permitting.:thumbsup:
Regards,
Rob.
09euro23
11-04-2009, 07:20 PM
I have 15% on my Euro with 65% on front windscreen - looks awesome, keeps the heat out extremely well and has never attracted the attention of the police (had this setup on my last 2 cars also). You just need to keep in mind that it is illegal and if you do get a jerk of a cop on a 'mission', he will happily slap a work order on it... The risk you have to take i guess - but from my experience, if you dont drive like a knob and get their attention, they will happily let your black windows cruise on...
Min988
11-04-2009, 07:24 PM
Does the blue tint do much in regards to sun protection?
The X Man
12-04-2009, 12:23 AM
I have 20% on mine and never had an issue with the Police.
denot
12-04-2009, 11:14 PM
I have 15% on my Euro with 65% on front windscreen - looks awesome, keeps the heat out extremely well and has never attracted the attention of the police (had this setup on my last 2 cars also). You just need to keep in mind that it is illegal and if you do get a jerk of a cop on a 'mission', he will happily slap a work order on it... The risk you have to take i guess - but from my experience, if you dont drive like a knob and get their attention, they will happily let your black windows cruise on...
hey man, post some pics please...
09euro23
13-04-2009, 12:33 AM
Attached below are some pics - front is 65% - sides and rear 15% - Some better pics coming. Cheers.
09euro23
13-04-2009, 12:45 AM
Pics Now attached - minr corrections required...
Front is 65% - Sides and rear is 15% - Better pics to be posted soon...
Cheers,
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww131/09euro23/DSC01473.jpg
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww131/09euro23/DSC01477-1.jpg
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww131/09euro23/DSC01480-1.jpg
denot
13-04-2009, 01:27 AM
Wow! thats dark man... but its probably good for my newborn son anyway :) (excuses... hehehe)
09euro23
13-04-2009, 01:39 AM
hehe - thats what i keep saying to the missus (got 2 youngsters myself) - it works. I havent experienced any bad safety issues with it either (neither my wife)... its not too bad at all actually.
09euro23
13-04-2009, 01:51 AM
Here's another shot from the rear i just worked out how to load (still learning this forum stuff)... Cheers.
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww131/09euro23/DSC01472-1.jpg
Tinter
13-04-2009, 02:10 PM
The risk you have to take i guess - but from my experience, if you dont drive like a knob and get their attention, they will happily let your black windows cruise on...
Put it down to luck and not being in the right place at the wrong time.
Tinter
13-04-2009, 02:12 PM
Does the blue tint do much in regards to sun protection?
It has a total solar heat rejection of about 46% with 99% UV filtration.
Rob.
bbell
06-05-2009, 11:55 AM
problem with tinting the front windscreen i believe is if you hit a pedestrian, then the windscreen has less chance of shattering causing more injury. With 100% clear film they may not realise, but if something happens like i mentioned your scr#wed!!!
denot
06-05-2009, 02:28 PM
problem with tinting the front windscreen i believe is if you hit a pedestrian, then the windscreen has less chance of shattering causing more injury.
er... i thought this is a good thing, not a problem? :confused:
bbell
06-05-2009, 02:30 PM
er... i thought this is a good thing, not a problem? :confused:
how can making the windscreen stronger be good, it needs to cushion impact
denot
06-05-2009, 02:50 PM
how can making the windscreen stronger be good, it needs to cushion impact
if the windscreen shattered easily after hitting sum1, then the driver will be injured as well rite?
anyway...
bbell
06-05-2009, 02:54 PM
if the windscreen shattered easily after hitting sum1, then the driver will be injured as well rite?
anyway...
tinting makes the windscreen stronger, hence more inpact to pedestrians. The windscreen should be left as it and not tinted. Hey just telling you what a qualified tinter told me. Hence why its ILLEGAL to have it dine. Only thing you can tint on a windscreen is a sunvisor strip. Just my 20c worth.
Ken-f
06-05-2009, 02:54 PM
Tint will make NO difference to the person you hit....its a thin film. Seriously.....it will just hold the glass fragments together.
denot
06-05-2009, 02:56 PM
tinting makes the windscreen stronger, hence more inpact to pedestrians. The windscreen should be left as it and not tinted. Hey just telling you what a qualified tinter told me. Hence why its ILLEGAL to have it dine. Only thing you can tint on a windscreen is a sunvisor strip. Just my 20c worth.
for me its becoz it make its looks yuck with all the reflections :p
anyway, 20% tint is ILLEGAL as well...
bbell
06-05-2009, 02:57 PM
Tint will make NO difference to the person you hit....its a thin film. Seriously.....it will just hold the glass fragments together.
some people are also talking about putting security film on. Has anyone tried removing it.....trust me its strong i removed some from my house windows
Crapdaz
06-05-2009, 03:05 PM
kenf - if someone smashes your window like they did to mine, the tint does sh1t all but hold small sections up which didn't get fully shattered.
Ken-f
06-05-2009, 04:59 PM
Thats what i was trying to say. I saw the pics of your window. Terrible. But the person who smashed yours must've pushed it in or hit it multiple times, If someone was hit on the windscreen, it'd be 1 impact, not a a few. .... unless of course you hit the person intentionally....multiple times, or you hit 10 ppl in a row.
hotdc2
06-05-2009, 05:08 PM
if you're going to deliberately hit someone in your pride and joy then why do you care about the windscreen smashing?
Ken-f
06-05-2009, 05:16 PM
.....your kidding right? I was being sarcastic. lol.
hotdc2
06-05-2009, 05:22 PM
thankyou ted. that was the joke
Joystick
06-05-2009, 05:49 PM
thankyou ted. that was the joke
LOL nice use of a Family Guy quote, I'm still giggling. :)
mofolo
06-05-2009, 10:43 PM
20%? What has insurance said about this?
Ken-f
06-05-2009, 11:47 PM
It's something you wouldn't want to tell them. But if anyone did, let use know!
Crapdaz
07-05-2009, 09:15 AM
It's something you wouldn't want to tell them. But if anyone did, let use know!
20%? What has insurance said about this?
You wouldn't tell them because window excess costs more than repairing the window.
NRMA quoted me $600 for the broken window and i got my mate to order in window from HA and all up cost me $400 with it fitted. (Front passenger side window)
Tinter
07-05-2009, 07:01 PM
tinting makes the windscreen stronger, hence more inpact to pedestrians. The windscreen should be left as it and not tinted. Hey just telling you what a qualified tinter told me. Hence why its ILLEGAL to have it dine. Only thing you can tint on a windscreen is a sunvisor strip. Just my 20c worth.
In actual fact it doesn't make the screen stronger at all.
For that qualification to be made correct, you'd have to have a 21 ply film SECURITY film applied and that means a film 10 times thicker than normal film.
That ain't going to happen.
20% films are illegal and always have been and insurance companies know that and therefore a way to absolve them of a claim if need be.
Rob.
bbell
08-05-2009, 08:02 AM
tinter, so do you agree that if you tint the front window and you happen to hit someone it will cause more injury to the pedestrian, an you will be in alot of trouble?
denot
08-05-2009, 10:00 AM
tinter, so do you agree that if you tint the front window and you happen to hit someone it will cause more injury to the pedestrian, an you will be in alot of trouble?
haahha I think without tinting your front windscreen, you will still be in a lot of trouble :p
hahaha my mates got 20% tints and he reversed into my cousins em1 the other night =P
Tinter
08-05-2009, 06:22 PM
tinter, so do you agree that if you tint the front window and you happen to hit someone it will cause more injury to the pedestrian, an you will be in alot of trouble?
Bell,
A traditional solar control film is only 1.5 micron thick or for those imperial.... 1.5 thousands of an inch.
It will make no difference to the injury of a pedestrian but by god you wouldn't want to come before the police accident appreciation squad that investigates these types of personal injuries.
Rob.
mofolo
01-08-2009, 05:00 PM
Hey,
Just got my windows Tinted 20%. Driving during day-light. Very very easy. No problems at all. Driving when low light - different story. lol. But still easily manageable. It was not as bad as i thought:
Did anyone say, Before and after photos? : (Tint has yet to dry, so it'll still get darker than this)
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/4670/img0168.jpg
Now:
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/763/img0175lct.jpg
The guy who did it, did a great job. No problems, quick and easy. Knew what he was doing. If your in the Northern Suburbs VIC, his the man to go to:
Turbo Tint: 0421 343 061
George euro
01-08-2009, 05:47 PM
na 20% is fine! :) i have 5% and that is stil perfect just parking at night is a bit hard
http://i471.photobucket.com/albums/rr71/georgeeuro/IMG_6685.jpg
mofolo
01-08-2009, 08:11 PM
lol - im not man enough do go to 5%.
But it sure does look cool..
Worst thing about tinted windows - waiting for them to dry.. arhh!
orion76
31-12-2009, 10:22 AM
I'm considering tinting the CU2 but undecided what tint level to do. Was considering doing the side windows 20% and the back 28% (given that I've heard that it's near impossible to see anything through the back window at night). Does anybody have the above configuration?
shmivic
31-12-2009, 10:50 AM
i have 5% on my 07 lux, no problems at all
had 25% originally but just was not dark enough
does anyone have photos of a SILVER CL9 with tints?? im trying to decide wether or not to tint it...
no troubles with the cops on my 20% 3m tint. had it for nearly a year now. only thing is that i need to put the windows down when im in underground carparks or parking at night.
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u157/gh3ttolov3/dscf2285m.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/j9obvq.jpg
felixd
04-01-2010, 07:56 AM
go no tint dude :D
4age8u
04-01-2010, 09:48 AM
Keep in mind the sort of tint they use..If they use dye tint it will start to fade and your 20% will look 35% after a year or two...anyways i think 20% is too light i had 5% all around on my corolla haha was pimp...i would go 15% on sides and 5% on rear on a euro
longers
04-01-2010, 10:51 AM
i've got 20% on the fronts and on the rears i have 20% with 15% on top of that
in the back, during the day you can see out. from the outside looking in your can't see sh!t.
same case at night when you're looking out, thank god for my reverse camera
Phatboy
04-01-2010, 11:16 AM
What is one shade darker than legal 30%?
I have one shade darker than legal around the sides.
And two shades darker on the Rear I have had no problem at all, tempted to go darker on the sides however.
dave_todai
07-01-2010, 01:04 PM
I have 18% all round and had no problems at all. Very nice and just right.
Its hard for people to look inside the unless they come up close.
longers
07-01-2010, 03:38 PM
i've got 20% on the fronts and on the rears i have 20% with 15% on top of that
in the back, during the day you can see out. from the outside looking in your can't see sh!t.
same case at night when you're looking out, thank god for my reverse camera
here's a pic.
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/6582/dsc0190bi.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/dsc0190bi.jpg/)
Tinter
07-01-2010, 03:39 PM
Anything lower than the 35% light transmission number voids comprehensive car insurance, is illegal, unroadworthy and can be fined.
RiceMeister
07-01-2010, 03:43 PM
best spot in melbourne for removal of old tint, 20% sides and 35% rear? anyone reccomend somewhere to me?
Tinter
07-01-2010, 06:00 PM
Well that's what I've been doing for the last 35 years...fixing others crappy installations.
[ IV 23 VI ]
11-01-2010, 06:28 PM
A blue film is available from Suntek and it has a very nice light 50% VLT and provides a look similar to that found on stock VW Golf R32's and some newer upmarket Mercedes Benzs.
It has a total solar heat rejection of about 46% with 99% UV filtration.
Rob.
Hey Rob,
I was wondering which would block more of the burning sun (just say which one would you feel burning your skin more :p) the blue tint you mentioned from Suntek or a 35% normal tint from Suntek or whatever brand ..
I like the blue but I dont want to burn..
pretty much what would it be in comparison to.. 50% tint, 35%, 20% etc..
Thanks,
Ash :p
Tinter
12-01-2010, 01:47 PM
;2614020']Hey Rob,
I was wondering which would block more of the burning sun (just say which one would you feel burning your skin more :p) the blue tint you mentioned from Suntek or a 35% normal tint from Suntek or whatever brand ..
I like the blue but I dont want to burn..
pretty much what would it be in comparison to.. 50% tint, 35%, 20% etc..
Thanks,
Ash :p
Hi Ash,
Depends on whether the car has a built in radio antenna in the rear screen.
But aside from that, it would be very hard to go past the Madico ONYX 35% high performance aluminium film....it has the best heat rejection given all things equal with light transmission.
All the info on it is on my website.
Regards,
Rob.
[ IV 23 VI ]
12-01-2010, 02:05 PM
Thx Rob,
Well I am picking up my new car on Thurs, but I dont remember if the antenna is in the rear screen.. What diffrence would it make apart from looks wise..
On my previous car I had suntek 35% tint would the blue tint from suntek be the same in protection? or was my 35% better in my previous car?
Tinter
13-01-2010, 05:56 PM
;2615105']Thx Rob,
Well I am picking up my new car on Thurs, but I dont remember if the antenna is in the rear screen.. What diffrence would it make apart from looks wise..
On my previous car I had suntek 35% tint would the blue tint from suntek be the same in protection? or was my 35% better in my previous car?
The Madico ONYX would be superior by far and because of its "true Black" feature, won't change your colour perception when you look out through your glass....the blue does make things very unnatural and peculiar.
I wouldn't have it unless it's some show car not driven as a daily drive.
Regards,
Rob.
CTR-80Y
16-01-2010, 05:23 AM
my brother has 10% and its pretty dark already if you dont want any sun in your car i suggest you get 5% but 10% is the best one to get if you like it to be dark if you wanna see pics just pm me and ill send you some
and i have a mate that does tinting if anyone is interested thanks
CTR-80Y
thagoodstuff
19-01-2010, 02:37 PM
this may sound stupid, but would you get tints done on your sunroof glass as well?
i'm getting my tints done @ solartint this friday for $325 which will keep 2/3's of the heat out.
what do you guys think? too much? i don't mind paying extra for a good job
felixd
19-01-2010, 03:10 PM
why not dr tint ? think they charge cheaper
[ IV 23 VI ]
19-01-2010, 03:36 PM
No you dont tint your sunroof
Also it will probably fade or crack as its in direct sun.
The glass is already factory tinted.
$325 is a rip off
up in sydney we can get tints done for $140
Tinter
19-01-2010, 06:57 PM
;2622563']No you dont tint your sunroof
Also it will probably fade or crack as its in direct sun.
The glass is already factory tinted.
$325 is a rip off
up in sydney we can get tints done for $140
You said it all....a $140 tint will go to crap.
And find them when you want a warranty claim.
Go to people like Solartint in NSW if that's where you come from because they are the national distributor for the American product made by Madico USA and have been that way for more than 30 years....that's peace of mind purchasing and stand by their name and reputation.
A backyarder may be around for 30 months if you are lucky.
felixd
19-01-2010, 07:05 PM
You said it all....a $140 tint will go to crap.
And find them when you want a warranty claim.
Go to people like Solartint in NSW if that's where you come from because they are the national distributor for the American product made by Madico USA and have been that way for more than 30 years....that's peace of mind purchasing and stand by their name and reputation.
A backyarder may be around for 30 months if you are lucky.
Lulz backyarder
thagoodstuff
20-01-2010, 10:34 PM
thanks rob
i've definitely learnt my lesson when choosing things for my car
no more going to "friends of friends" who claim to "look after you" lol
i'm only going to reputable places now even if it means having to pay extra, hence the $325 i'm forking out. i know solartint will still be around in 30-40 years time whereas a backyard job can leave you out of pocket and worse off...
i'm getting my wheels finally put on tomorrow, my first mod. which thread should i post in? i really haven't seen any accord euro's with the wheels i'm getting.. no one seems to be customising their wheels for some reason =| it's quite disappointing.. i mean, guys are buying nice wheels and for a couple hundred extra could have it the way they want, but i guess not..
ralph
RiceMeister
20-01-2010, 11:19 PM
I got my car done with 20% sides and 30% rear (just for good visibility out the back) at CarX in Clayton and they did an absolutely awesome job. Can't say enough good things about the work done there.
The tinter who did mine took care with my leather interior by covering everything up and took his time to do a great job. No issues or problems with it, looks black from the outside all round and is hard to see in for privacy which is what I wanted, but very easy to see out and blocks out most sun from outside too.
They also removed old tint on all four windows and a really badly bubbled rear window and then re-applied the new Suntek film all round, all for $260 all up. I got a discount as my mate Matt (M@lew) and I did ours at same time.
If you're in melbourne you can't go past them for price and quality, it was a no brainer after tint-a-car and tint professor gave me prices of $400+ including removal.
CarX FTW!! :D
Tinter
21-01-2010, 08:04 AM
I got my car done with 20% sides and 30% rear (just for good visibility out the back) at CarX in Clayton and they did an absolutely awesome job. Can't say enough good things about the work done there.
If you're in melbourne you can't go past them for price and quality, it was a no brainer after tint-a-car and tint professor gave me prices of $400+ including removal.
CarX FTW!! :D
20% installed in Victoria is illegal and you are now running around in a car that is not only unroadworthy but compromises your insurance cover...fact!
A great tinter!
$400 for total removal and application of a very high performance film is quite well within the market expectations.
[ IV 23 VI ]
21-01-2010, 10:10 AM
Lulz backyarder
Actually this is Sydneys most popular window tinter, who has a shop front not a back yard job,
My previous car was done by this tinter with no problems at all..
He is just not a rippoff like the larger franchise stores like Solartint..
[ IV 23 VI ]
21-01-2010, 10:14 AM
Double dragon post combo
RiceMeister
21-01-2010, 01:18 PM
20% installed in Victoria is illegal and you are now running around in a car that is not only unroadworthy but compromises your insurance cover...fact!
A great tinter!
$400 for total removal and application of a very high performance film is quite well within the market expectations.
I'm assuming by saying what you have above, that you believe the $260 I paid for my tint was not a high performance film? Perhaps the quality of CarX's tint is lackluster, is that what you're inciting? I'm no professional tinter so I guess my assessment of the quality may not be completely accurate...
Preaching legalities on what's right and wrong on these forums will have little effect, but I appreciate your efforts :thumbsup:
I understand my car tints are illegal but that's my choice and my problem, just like other areas of car modification that a lot of us choose to ignore to pursue our goals for our cars. Search "Defect" or "Defected" and see how many results you get...
Wide wheels, dark tints, loud exhausts, epic lowering, aftermarket HID kits, excessively loud audio setups - defectable modifications are everywhere mate, they are a part of the scene and nowadays it's difficult to do anything worth doing to your car without getting dicked for it, so excuse my belligerence when you tell me something I already know and knew weeks prior to getting my tint.
You are, from what I've read a honest tinter who follows the stringent guidelines for car window tinting, good for you! Unfortunately there are guys out there who do bend the rules for us illegal modifiers, who undercut your business with "shoddy" work, illegal tinting levels, cheap prices, offer no warranty or a limited warranty and operate out of their "backyards".
But when it comes down to it, I'm happy to pay $260 for the same quality tint (same brand used at Tint-A-Car) as a $400 tint at a chain store. I, as a consumer am happy to choose tint levels I like, despite their infringement of regulations, that's my choice.
And when the good old boys in blue nab me, I'm sure I'll be wishing I listened to your wise advice...Tinter.
Until then however, I am over the moon with my tints and see no issue with them.
All the best!
:D
[ IV 23 VI ]
21-01-2010, 03:16 PM
Well said! :thumbsup:
Tinter
21-01-2010, 05:38 PM
I'll say one thing for your honesty......at least you are fair dinkum and accept the possible ramifications.
My point is that when I have one of my compatriots knowingly fitting illegal films, then his actions jeopardise every other tinters' business who are in it for the long haul.
And we have financial commitments like leases, staff with their mortgages to pay etc. and the list goes on and this could be all wiped out if the authorities got serious and put a cross right through any window film fitting.
user.name
22-01-2010, 08:38 PM
yer i had 5% on rear window and rear door windows, and i think it was 10% on the front doors on my toyota celsior. had to strip the rear windows for rego in ACT transferring from interstate...was sooo shit.
was too dark for my opinion. looked porn, but was hard to drive with, esp with 20's when i dropped the bags haha
im gettin 20% for my blue 06 euro in a few weeks, not goin any darker this time, its not gonna be a show car
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