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Iron Chef
07-04-2009, 12:31 AM
Actually technically it's a Torneo, but who's splitting hairs. I hope you enjoy the read :)

For those interested, it's the first step in getting the CL1 eligible for import into Oz under SEVS - it looks like both the Euro R and the SiR-T will be eligible at this stage.

Cheers
Kristian

Ken-f
07-04-2009, 01:26 AM
You didn't link to anything.

Iron Chef
07-04-2009, 08:19 AM
No, that would be because you actually have to go and buy it...

Ken-f
07-04-2009, 09:40 AM
OH, ic ic. ahaha. My bad. I assumed you were linking something.

Iron Chef
07-04-2009, 09:58 AM
Sorry, I would change the title, but I can't - still worth a read though, guys.

giant_mongrel
07-04-2009, 11:26 AM
borders melbourne 3 issues for $9.95

read it yesterday... funny how its got a H22 while the euro-R CL7 uses a K20... pretty sure the torneo is lighter too

Iron Chef
11-04-2009, 01:31 AM
They're the same weight, thankfully :)

jyh888
12-04-2009, 02:36 PM
why does the euro r use the k20 not the k24?? isnt the k24 faster and produce more torque??

pat88c
12-04-2009, 02:53 PM
k20 is type R motor likely the reason

viper8548
12-04-2009, 03:23 PM
why does the euro r use the k20 not the k24?? isnt the k24 faster and produce more torque??

why cant they make a k24 type r version :cool:

DreadAngel
12-04-2009, 03:31 PM
Cause they already have K20As in Civic and Integra hence makes lots more sense to treat K20 with Type-R goodies rather than K24

aaronng
12-04-2009, 03:38 PM
why does the euro r use the k20 not the k24?? isnt the k24 faster and produce more torque??

No, 164kW vs 140kW.

aaronng
12-04-2009, 03:38 PM
why cant they make a k24 type r version :cool:

Because it would cost to much to make a 8500rpm k24a engine (eventhough I would love to have one)

90LAN
12-04-2009, 03:39 PM
No, 164kW vs 140kW.

k24 was built for the masses
k20 for the real hondas

aaronng
12-04-2009, 04:07 PM
k24 was built for the masses
k20 for the real hondas

Can't generalise that way because there is also a 112kW K20a. :p

90LAN
12-04-2009, 05:20 PM
Can't generalise that way because there is also a 112kW K20a. :p


to me there is only one real k20 mate
coming from a honda aus worker i can understand
your use to getting the shit motors
were talking about the r badged cars
the real cars your company never releases
and if they do are always detuned shit versions of the real thing
:thumbdwn: honda australia

jyh888
13-04-2009, 11:32 PM
has anyone mated a k24 bottom with a k20 head? what differences do u get and is it a direct fit?

onlykillzz
13-04-2009, 11:40 PM
its not on sevs yet....

Iron Chef
13-04-2009, 11:48 PM
It's not on SEVS yet because it takes more than a few days to do the application and get approval - the article has only just been published, and it's one of the eligibility criteria ;)

foxdie
17-04-2009, 12:50 AM
deilghtful

DreadAngel
17-04-2009, 11:18 AM
Don't forget, SEVS board are picky, they can decline if they want to purely cause they don't like it (In the case of the Aristo...)

aaronng
17-04-2009, 11:25 AM
Don't forget, SEVS board are picky, they can decline if they want to purely cause they don't like it (In the case of the Aristo...)
Aristo is the same car as a Lexus GS, hence the reason SEVS declined it.

DreadAngel
17-04-2009, 01:04 PM
Nah, if that was the case, why is it approved now =P

integral90
17-04-2009, 01:09 PM
to me there is only one real k20 mate
coming from a honda aus worker i can understand
your use to getting the shit motors
were talking about the r badged cars
the real cars your company never releases
and if they do are always detuned shit versions of the real thing
:thumbdwn: honda australia

Aaron doesn't work for Honda...

K24 has much more potential as an engine in my opinion, and there is more than one 'real' K20...

aaronng
17-04-2009, 01:45 PM
Nah, if that was the case, why is it approved now =P

Oooh, only 91 to 97 approved (when there was no GS here). I guess SEVS were being dicks. hahaha

90LAN
17-04-2009, 01:51 PM
Aaron doesn't work for Honda...

K24 has much more potential as an engine in my opinion, and there is more than one 'real' K20...

well my bad i was under the impression he was they way he spoke about honda
anyway you wouldnt understand buddy
stick to the a-b fuel miser cars honda build for the masses
oh cant aaron speak for himself

aaronng
17-04-2009, 04:21 PM
well my bad i was under the impression he was they way he spoke about honda
anyway you wouldnt understand buddy
stick to the a-b fuel miser cars honda build for the masses
oh cant aaron speak for himself

Speak what about myself? I was not speaking about Honda (the company). I speak for myself and I am no employee of Honda, nor do I have any stake in that company. I am an enthusiast just like yourself.

I was just saying that there are k20a and then there is THE k20a. Heck, I could easily make the assumption that you are less informed when you call the engine a k20a instead of a k20a2 or k20z3. We are not in JDMland anyway.

I'll stick to my DOHC VTEC on both intake and exhaust cams thanks.

90LAN
17-04-2009, 06:11 PM
Speak what about myself? I was not speaking about Honda (the company). I speak for myself and I am no employee of Honda, nor do I have any stake in that company. I am an enthusiast just like yourself.

I was just saying that there are k20a and then there is THE k20a. Heck, I could easily make the assumption that you are less informed when you call the engine a k20a instead of a k20a2 or k20z3. We are not in JDMland anyway.

I'll stick to my DOHC VTEC on both intake and exhaust cams thanks.

well if you think that way go buy a non jdmland car then
sorry about being not so clear
ill better come down to your level then
good for you then

Mr_will
17-04-2009, 06:14 PM
well if you think that way go buy a non jdmland car then
sorry about being not so clear
ill better come down to your level then
good for you then


punch onz

aaronng
17-04-2009, 06:17 PM
well if you think that way go buy a non jdmland car then
sorry about being not so clear
ill better come down to your level then
good for you then

Yes, I did buy a non JDM car. I don't need to go and buy another one. And most of us are having brain pains coming down to your level, so please mind your manners here.

90LAN
17-04-2009, 06:24 PM
Yes, I did buy a non JDM car. I don't need to go and buy another one. And most of us are having brain pains coming down to your level, so please mind your manners here.

take some medication here then mate
my manners are fine
what standards are you setting for a mod ?
your attitude needs a tone down too
as always people on ozhonda dont like their own medicine
i talk to people how they talk to me buddy

aaronng
17-04-2009, 06:50 PM
take some medication here then mate
my manners are fine
what standards are you setting for a mod ?
your attitude needs a tone down too
as always people on ozhonda dont like their own medicine
i talk to people how they talk to me buddy

Please read your own posts above and tone your attitude. As you said "people on ozhonda dont like their own medicine", so have a look at your own posts. It seems that you can dish it out but then become all defensive when someone tells you off for doing that.


oh cant aaron speak for himself

well if you think that way go buy a non jdmland car then
sorry about being not so clear
ill better come down to your level then
good for you then

90LAN
17-04-2009, 06:58 PM
Please read your own posts above and tone your attitude. As you said "people on ozhonda dont like their own medicine", so have a look at your own posts. It seems that you can dish it out but then become all defensive when someone tells you off for doing that.

i can take more than you know
but since your a almighty moderator
you would not like what i would like to say
so we will leave it at that
but if i was talking to you in real life it would be another sorry
anyway back to the topic

aaronng
17-04-2009, 07:08 PM
I'm not almighty. Moderators are servants of the forum. Not gods. Anyway, yes back on topic. I apologise to everyone for going off topic.

integral90
17-04-2009, 07:31 PM
i can take more than you know
but since your a almighty moderator
you would not like what i would like to say
so we will leave it at that
but if i was talking to you in real life it would be another sorry
anyway back to the topic

Can you STFU and stop starting arguments over cars? We live in Australia, hence we get AUDM cars and not JDM cars. Wrap your mind around that concept, it's not that brain-boggling.

To say one car is better than another is exactly what starts these imports vs. domestic arguments that are ultimately pointless. Everyone works with what they have. Your car is better than some people's, some people's cars are better than yours. End of the day it's exactly what you said, A to B, some people just like to do it in different ways.

90LAN
17-04-2009, 07:47 PM
Can you STFU and stop starting arguments over cars? We live in Australia, hence we get AUDM cars and not JDM cars. Wrap your mind around that concept, it's not that brain-boggling.

To say one car is better than another is exactly what starts these imports vs. domestic arguments that are ultimately pointless. Everyone works with what they have. Your car is better than some people's, some people's cars are better than yours. End of the day it's exactly what you said, A to B, some people just like to do it in different ways.

nope i can have im say as much as i want
as to the next person who doesnt like jdm like yourself
its not pointless everyone deep downs wants a jdm honda
better in every way
name a honda that has been released outside of japan has been better than the jdm model
none
so when you have a jdm car come back and put your 2 cents in

integral90
17-04-2009, 07:56 PM
nope i can have im say as much as i want
as to the next person who doesnt like jdm like yourself
its not pointless everyone deep downs wants a jdm honda
better in every way
name a honda that has been released outside of japan has been better than the jdm model
none
so when you have a jdm car come back and put your 2 cents in

Firstly, if you want to be taken seriously then put an ounce of effort into your sentence structure so what you type is actually coherent.

Secondly, why are you assuming I don't like JDM? You can't get new Japanese cars here. You have a JDM EG with a JDM B18C? WOW! Just like every other AUDM EG with a JDM B18C, congratulations.

The Euro, in particular, doesn't have a Japanese equal. Unless you compare the non-R Japanese Euro which had a mighty 118kW or whatever.

Seriously, this is the Euro section and you obviously have nothing to say about Euros, so gtfo. If you're spending your Friday night on Ozhonda starting arguments I think it says a little more about you as a person than your SIK JDM EG does, douche.

90LAN
17-04-2009, 08:04 PM
Firstly, if you want to be taken seriously then put an ounce of effort into your sentence structure so what you type is actually coherent.

Secondly, why are you assuming I don't like JDM? You can't get new Japanese cars here. You have a JDM EG with a JDM B18C? WOW! Just like every other AUDM EG with a JDM B18C, congratulations.

The Euro, in particular, doesn't have a Japanese equal. Unless you compare the non-R Japanese Euro which had a mighty 118kW or whatever.

Seriously, this is the Euro section and you obviously have nothing to say about Euros, so gtfo. If you're spending your Friday night on Ozhonda starting arguments I think it says a little more about you as a person than your SIK JDM EG does, douche.

why should i you still understand my sentence structure
nah actually my eg is shitter than the aussie ones
were taking about a mugen euro r here if you didnt know
with a k20 a type r k20
you decide to jump in so your starting this argument
once again the serious, mature grow up reply
never heard that one before
and your here on a friday night doing what..........
hows your eg with a b18c ?

Riviera
17-04-2009, 08:04 PM
shut the thread down and go scream into a pillow cause thats all this
threads good for lol....

SPQR
17-04-2009, 08:18 PM
I'm not almighty. Moderators are servants of the forum. Not gods. Anyway, yes back on topic. I apologise to everyone for going off topic.

Oh! Really. You've just shattered my moderate delusions.


why should i you still understand my sentence structure
nah actually my eg is shitter than the aussie ones
were taking about a mugen euro r here if you didnt know
with a k20 a type r k20
you decide to jump in so your starting this argument
once again the serious, mature grow up reply
never heard that one before
and your here on a friday night doing what..........
hows your eg with a b18c ?

You are precious, petulant, puerile, precociously immature and aliterate all at once if that's possible but clearly, you are the exception.

Riviera
17-04-2009, 08:31 PM
lets all just hug and say "I Love my Honda" in sync it will be wonderful
im excited just thinking about it :D:thumbsup:

when its running right that is...

90LAN
17-04-2009, 08:32 PM
Oh! Really. You've just shattered my moderate delusions.



You are precious, petulant, puerile, precociously immature and aliterate all at once if that's possible but clearly, you are the exception.

thanks for that now back to your books book worm
any other works starting with p you can use ?
i can but you would be offended
any body can use a dictionary buddy

Riviera
17-04-2009, 08:40 PM
Endss

aaronng
17-04-2009, 10:44 PM
Closed to cool down.