Integra Type R DC5

[SHMIKO_S14A]

Hey guys, I am looking to purchase an 02-04 Integra Type R DC5 aus spec soon, and was wondering what you guys think of them.

Any info, hints, advice on the Type R's would be good.

Cheers, Micky.

[tectalk]

Hey guys, I am looking to purchase an 02-04 Integra Type R DC5 aus spec soon, and was wondering what you guys think of them.

Any info, hints, advice on the Type R's would be good.

Cheers, Micky.

hey mate just use the search function should get everything you need :)

[VTECMACHINE]

I think they are good. But DC2R>DC5R.

[iinjektd]

Much more sexier than the older models in my opinion.
I just love em cos i have one. Beautiful interior, sleek look,
take one for a test drive.

[RR-04-RR]

the dc5r are much more modern that the dc2r but i personally love the dc2r more..

depends what you wanna go for.. power.. looks...

but overall type Rs are a good reliable powerful 4cyl cars

[jks24]

yeh i had the same dilema man, had to choose between a dc2r or dc5r. I liked the interior of the dc5r but then the dc2r looks way better outside in my opinion. It has a lot more raw to apparently. At the end of the day you cant go wrong with which ever one you get. Both are great cars.

[aidannn]

dc5r.

[namski]

my opinion for my first honda as a DC5R, I enjoy every drive and find excuses to just jump in and go for a spin!

Has the power and the sex appeal! I'd highly recommend it! But you won't regret either cars.

[cupnoodle]

dc5r for sure!

[SHMIKO_S14A]

Well that settles it. I'm going to start looking for a nice Blue DC5R and then put some 5Zigen Pro Racers on it :).

[p.terribilis]

I had a DC5 Type S in the USA and loved it. Ran a 14.3@95mph with only a Injen Cold Air Intake, Yoko ES100's, and some poly motor mount inserts, dropped very slightly with a progress sport kit (very clean and functional drop) stock wheels. Sounds great but just take it is with her....very stable and it doesn't have that "rawness" of the DC2...so you could be going 100kms and it feels "cushy" like you are doing 50kms. I went sideways and did a bit of tail wagging/sliding the first day I took mine home as I was used to driving a honda accord 1994 and I felt more of the road in that car...anyway...good luck and enjoy whatever you buy.

[Moey.C]

i have done plenty of research on this and have found that stock vs stock the dc2r go harrder but with a bit of work to both the dc5r's k20 engine has more potential and goes harder after a bit of work done.

my mate has a dc5r black... very very nice... interior is beautiful.

im currently lookin for a dc2r but thats only because of my price limit lol

good luck tho

[namski]

It'd be worth saving that bit extra for a DC5R.

There's a nice Blue one in Liverpool with very low k's and 2003/4 model? I would of been onto it but Blue wasn't my colour.

[SHMIKO_S14A]

Yes, I am currently looking at the one in liverpool :). Very nice, low k's 2004 model.

[EVLGTR]

Get the DC5 05-06 Type S, the K20Z1 engine spec is a lot closer to the JDM-spec Type R K20A such as the Camshafts, crankshafts, throttle body size, exhaust manifold diameter..etc. plus more tweaks on the suspension geometry, quicker Steering response, overall body rigidity, gearing ratio....

The Aust 1st generation DC5 "Type R" K20A2 is a watered-down version thats only suitable for Australian RON type fuel. The Type S has a lot more tuning potential, based on the JDM model and further refined for the Australian RON fuel

[EVLGTR]

Get the Type S, its what the Type R should be in the first place, besides it revs higher than the Aust Type-R. Hardcore Honda enthusiast should know that, people are just fooling themselves getting the Aust. version Type R with a K20A2 engine instead of the K20A

[45SET]

Get the DC5 05-06 Type S, the K20Z1 engine spec is a lot closer to the JDM-spec Type R K20A such as the Camshafts, crankshafts, throttle body size, exhaust manifold diameter..etc. plus more tweaks on the suspension geometry, quicker Steering response, overall body rigidity, gearing ratio....

The Aust 1st generation DC5 "Type R" K20A2 is a watered-down version thats only suitable for Australian RON type fuel. The Type S has a lot more tuning potential, based on the JDM model and further refined for the Australian RON fuel


Get the Type S, its what the Type R should be in the first place, besides it revs higher than the Aust Type-R. Hardcore Honda enthusiast should know that, people are just fooling themselves getting the Aust. version Type R with a K20A2 engine instead of the K20A

AUDM DC5R has the JDM Type R Chassis... were as the AUDM Type S doesn’t.

Your statement about the Type S having more tuning potential is total crap. Both cars have the same tuning potential, as has been proven time and time again.

Stock for stock both the cars are on par with each other. The Type S might have more power (An enormous 7kw), but it has more weight (Due to sunroof, sound deadening, airbags in the seats etc)... it also lacks an LSD. Also the K20z1 only has the exhaust cam of the K20a.

As has been discussed on this forum (And many others), both the cars are great, both the cars are going to react very similarly to engine mods. You just have to decide, do you want the boy racer look with Recaro's (Type R), or do you want the more subtle look with leather seats (Type S)

[mnc]

^ very good info... GET HIM BOYS!!! (I meant rep him for his informative post) =]

[sretocz]

Get the Type S, its what the Type R should be in the first place, besides it revs higher than the Aust Type-R. Hardcore Honda enthusiast should know that, people are just fooling themselves getting the Aust. version Type R with a K20A2 engine instead of the K20A




HAHAHAH, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

[[Type_R]]

hey mate just use the search function should get everything you need :)

ZOMG what wheels are on your blue DC5, do want. Got anymore pics?

[45SET]

Joe dosn't use the forum anymore...

I've got him on MSN and Facebook so I'll have a chat to him and find out where they were.

They are either 18's or 19's. Looked AWESOME on the blue DC5R he had.

[[Type_R]]

AUDM DC5R has the JDM Type R Chassis... were as the AUDM Type S doesn’t.

Your statement about the Type S having more tuning potential is total crap. Both cars have the same tuning potential, as has been proven time and time again.

Stock for stock both the cars are on par with each other. The Type S might have more power (An enormous 7kw), but it has more weight (Due to sunroof, sound deadening, airbags in the seats etc)... it also lacks an LSD. Also the K20z1 only has the exhaust cam of the K20a.

As has been discussed on this forum (And many others), both the cars are great, both the cars are going to react very similarly to engine mods. You just have to decide, do you want the boy racer look with Recaro's (Type R), or do you want the more subtle look with leather seats (Type S)


Well said Robi.

Coming from an driver who has owned both (DC5S and DC5R) I have to say i prefer the DC5R, the DC5S was great but the leather seats just didnt do it for me..

that is all.

[Philip Lee]

my vote goes to DC2R. this is the car that brought me into the "Type R" thing. it is perfect stock and with a little mod it's better than perfect lol.

i used to look down onto the AUDM DC5R becos we got the watered down version. however after driven a mild mod DC5R my mine has changed. they can be great cars and i love the interior better than the DC2R.

so personally i'd buy a DC2R over DC5R. however it's not easy to find one in mint condition so i wouldn't mind a DC5R and do a few mod to it and it'll be a great car as well.

[MYV13C]

Yer i just had to make that decison and went with the dc5

[Wez_R]

Good choice

[Zinyo]

Get the Type S, its what the Type R should be in the first place, besides it revs higher than the Aust Type-R. Hardcore Honda enthusiast should know that, people are just fooling themselves getting the Aust. version Type R with a K20A2 engine instead of the K20A

That statement is bs EVLGTR...here's my perception of a DC5R. Firstly, DC2R or DC5R or DC5S here are both the watered down version (one is more watered down...watever...fact is they're both watered down from their japanese counterpart...so no point being biased saying one is newer or older, true type r/more raw/soft, looks better than the other...yeah watever...your mum...its a matter of our own biased opinion).
Personally i've always liked the DC5R since it first came out, hence that is why i bought it ; looks good as what a sports car in its price range should look like, it has appeal, decent power, intended to serve a specific purpose. It may not be the fastest car but long story short; i enjoy driving 600+kms on a full tank even with occasional redline, i enjoy sitting in the recaros & looking at it from outside, i enjoy never having any problems since i bought it, i gotten use to the minimalistic interior - suits me just fine, i like the massive bootspace, i like the decently sized backseat, i enjoy the lack of police attention, i enjoy saying "its not that quick man, but it handles quite well", ohh and i enjoy chillin with the honda boys...good people...LOL

[J_Phongsavan]

very good car as i have a blue one and a sexy blue interior...

[EVLGTR]

AUDM DC5R has the JDM Type R Chassis... were as the AUDM Type S doesn’t.

Your statement about the Type S having more tuning potential is total crap. Both cars have the same tuning potential, as has been proven time and time again.

Stock for stock both the cars are on par with each other. The Type S might have more power (An enormous 7kw), but it has more weight (Due to sunroof, sound deadening, airbags in the seats etc)... it also lacks an LSD. Also the K20z1 only has the exhaust cam of the K20a.

As has been discussed on this forum (And many others), both the cars are great, both the cars are going to react very similarly to engine mods. You just have to decide, do you want the boy racer look with Recaro's (Type R), or do you want the more subtle look with leather seats (Type S)

...Looks like you dont really see whats beyond the Aus DC5R. Aust motoring reviewers and experts states the Type-S is superior to the Aus Type-R.

1: Recaro seats are heavier than the Type-S leather seats.

2: All Aust DC5 R's came with the optional A/C and audio.

3: Aus DC5R are limited to 7800 rpm redline whereas DC5S is at 8100 rpm

4: DC5S significantly have more body rigidity, hence the strut brace and the front and the rear crossmember due to the chassis being heavier (where its the same as the updated DC5R).

5: Gearing ratio of the TYPE-S are longer at the 4, 5 and 6 gears therefore its faster.

6: the Aust DC5R doesnt have the JDM exhaust camshaft.

7: Type S handles a lot better than the Aus DC5R due to body rigidity, steering response, Suspension geometry...etc.

8: LSD is used to reduce torque steer on an FF layout, a simple revised front "symmetrical" suspension geometry on the Type-S can also eliminate that or bump steer

...There are endless refinement to the Type S over the aust Type R. At the end of the day stock vs stock Type S is what the Aust Type R shouldve been in the first place. You guys are getting fooled by the badge and PLUS on the other hand the Aust DC5R is a run-of-the-mill version of the JDM DC5 Type R.
Just because its the badge "TYPE R" doesnt mean its the "real" TYPE-R, the TYPE-S is the closest thing to the REAL JDM Type-R...

I was going to get an Aust DC5 Type R but knowing it aint the real JDM spec then why try???....lmao

[EVLGTR]

HAHAHAH, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

HAHAHAHA, sounds like you havent driven a Type S before and cant differentiate between the spec of the K20a and a K20a2

[EVLGTR]

LOL i dont mean to stir the pot but I bet you guys are feeling a little delusioned knowing our K20A2 isnt the "same" as the K20a.....the reality is we've been ripped off 15 kw at the end of the day.

In my opinion, id rather the DC2 JDM Type R or the EP3 Type-R that we already have on our shores....

Both of our Aust DC5 Type R and Type S are one of the slowest amongst JDM Type-R series anyway so why argue over it... ROFL

[EVLGTR]

That statement is bs EVLGTR...here's my perception of a DC5R. Firstly, DC2R or DC5R or DC5S here are both the watered down version (one is more watered down...watever...fact is they're both watered down from their japanese counterpart...so no point being biased saying one is newer or older, true type r/more raw/soft, looks better than the other...yeah watever...your mum...its a matter of our own biased opinion).
Personally i've always liked the DC5R since it first came out, hence that is why i bought it ; looks good as what a sports car in its price range should look like, it has appeal, decent power, intended to serve a specific purpose. It may not be the fastest car but long story short; i enjoy driving 600+kms on a full tank even with occasional redline, i enjoy sitting in the recaros & looking at it from outside, i enjoy never having any problems since i bought it, i gotten use to the minimalistic interior - suits me just fine, i like the massive bootspace, i like the decently sized backseat, i enjoy the lack of police attention, i enjoy saying "its not that quick man, but it handles quite well", ohh and i enjoy chillin with the honda boys...good people...LOL

LOLL It aint bs brother, im telling the truth and getting all my sources and facts from motoring reviewers and experts here in Australia.

Its a fact that you guys own an Aus DC5R and DONT want to hear that its inferior to a DC5S and a lot more inferior to the JDM DC5R....LOL.

[DC5.Raven]

...Looks like you dont really see whats beyond the Aus DC5R. Aust motoring reviewers and experts states the Type-S is superior to the Aus Type-R.

1: Recaro seats are heavier than the Type-S leather seats.

2: All Aust DC5 R's came with the optional A/C and audio.

3: Aus DC5R are limited to 7800 rpm redline whereas DC5S is at 8100 rpm

4: DC5S significantly have more body rigidity, hence the strut brace and the front and the rear crossmember due to the chassis being heavier (where its the same as the updated DC5R).

5: Gearing ratio of the TYPE-S are longer at the 4, 5 and 6 gears therefore its faster.

6: the Aust DC5R doesnt have the JDM exhaust camshaft.

7: Type S handles a lot better than the Aus DC5R due to body rigidity, steering response, Suspension geometry...etc.

8: LSD is used to reduce torque steer on an FF layout, a simple revised front "symmetrical" suspension geometry on the Type-S can also eliminate that or bump steer

...There are endless refinement to the Type S over the aust Type R. At the end of the day stock vs stock Type S is what the Aust Type R shouldve been in the first place. You guys are getting fooled by the badge and PLUS on the other hand the Aust DC5R is a run-of-the-mill version of the JDM DC5 Type R.
Just because its the badge "TYPE R" doesnt mean its the "real" TYPE-R, the TYPE-S is the closest thing to the REAL JDM Type-R...

I was going to get an Aust DC5 Type R but knowing it aint the real JDM spec then why try???....lmao

Dont get me wrong here.
I have a DC5S and I love my car but how is it that the DC5S is superior to a DC5R?
What criteria are you basing this judgement on?

The only way a DC5S can be thought of as superior to a DC5R is on the street, it is more suitable for Australian roads.
Its more comforatble with leather seats, sound deadening and sunroof.
But this is where the added weight comes in.
DC5S is 1230kgs vs the DC5R 1170kgs (from www.redbook.com.au).

You would have to be delusional to think that Recaros are heavier than the leather seats of a DC5S.
The leather seats weigh a tonne compared to the Recaros.
Its true that the DC5S is more similar to the JDM DC5R gaining an extra 7kw through cams and larger exhaust diameter and what not.
But this advantage is lost when it is considerably heavier than the DC5R.

If anything, the DC5S has less tuning potential than the DC5R.
Most DC5S are not Kpro compatible. You need an 02-04 harness.

[45SET]

We are all aware that the JDM Type R has the better engine (K20a), that it has the Brembo brakes (Along with a few other suspension bits)... but that's about it. The AUDM DC5R still has the JDM chassis, still has the Recaro seats, still has the Type R body kit... it still even has the Type R badge and Red Honda badge…

The point of a car manufacturer building a new car is to improve it... so of course the face-lift Type S is going to have a few improvements over the preface-lift Type R. But once you start modifying suspension, sway bars, intake and exhaust... these changes start becoming marginal.

None of us Type R owners are kidding our selves. Have you thought that maybe the Type S was out of some people price range when they bought their Type R’s? I’ve owned mine for 4 years, and I know that when I bought my car the Type R was already a few grand more then I wanted to spend, and at that time the Type S was roughly 10k more then the Type R, and I’ve been more then happy with my "shit watered down" Type R for the last 4 years.

[EVLGTR]

Dont get me wrong here.
I have a DC5S and I love my car but how is it that the DC5S is superior to a DC5R?
What criteria are you basing this judgement on?

The only way a DC5S can be thought of as superior to a DC5R is on the street, it is more suitable for Australian roads.
Its more comforatble with leather seats, sound deadening and sunroof.
But this is where the added weight comes in.
DC5S is 1230kgs vs the DC5R 1170kgs (from www.redbook.com.au).

You would have to be delusional to think that Recaros are heavier than the leather seats of a DC5S.
The leather seats weigh a tonne compared to the Recaros.
Its true that the DC5S is more similar to the JDM DC5R gaining an extra 7kw through cams and larger exhaust diameter and what not.
But this advantage is lost when it is considerably heavier than the DC5R.

If anything, the DC5S has less tuning potential than the DC5R.
Most DC5S are not Kpro compatible. You need an 02-04 harness.

The 1170kgs figure is the Japanese figure meaning having no A/C, no Audio....etc....the actual figure is closer than you think to the Type-S

Theres not a lot of difference in weight. The handling characteristic of the DC5S has improved over the DC5R...the susspension geometry, steering response, braking feel, chassis re-inforcement so that negates the thought of being a lesser car against the Aus DC5R on the track. The gearing ratio is also longer on the DC5S

LMAO @ redbook dont do justice in weighing of the car.....
its like me posting this: http://www.carbuddy.com.au/car/research/specification/viewspecs.aspx?gid=45097&tid=12466166 <-----1160kgs DC5S which is bs.

Weigh the Recaro seats and the Type-S seats and see for yourself:)

DC5S Less tuning potential??....You even said it so get an 02-04 Harness to answer your question..simple LOL

[acurabot]

Stock for stock both the cars are on par with each other. The Type S might have more power (An enormous 7kw), but it has more weight (Due to sunroof, sound deadening, airbags in the seats etc)... it also lacks an LSD. Also the K20z1 only has the exhaust cam of the K20a.

Not to mention, DC5S dont have the rear intrusion bar like type r's do :thumbsup:




Weigh the Recaro seats and the Type-S seats and see for yourself:)

At the end of the day, DC5S is still heavier. Its not the weight of the seats that matters, its the overall weight. And if you're so keen on less weight, then why not just strip the whole car? People will always have their different views on DC5R vs DC5S, but like 45SET stated, DC5S will obviously have improvements (why build a newer model if you're not going to improve it?). Though, at the end of the day, there is probably more S owners who wished they owned an R ;)

[DC5.Raven]

Get the DC5 05-06 Type S, the K20Z1 engine spec is a lot closer to the JDM-spec Type R K20A such as the Camshafts, crankshafts, throttle body size, exhaust manifold diameter..etc. plus more tweaks on the suspension geometry, quicker Steering response, overall body rigidity, gearing ratio....

The Aust 1st generation DC5 "Type R" K20A2 is a watered-down version thats only suitable for Australian RON type fuel. The Type S has a lot more tuning potential, based on the JDM model and further refined for the Australian RON fuel

Here you have claimed that there is alot more tuning potential than the AUDM DC5R.
How does it have more tuning potential when most of them are not compatible with Kpro on their own.
As opposed to DC5Rs, in which ALL are compatible with Kpro.
They both have almost identical tuning potential.
If you wanted to get technical then the DC5S does has less tuning potential due to the ECU's compatibility with Kpro.


The 1170kgs figure is the Japanese figure meaning having no A/C, no Audio....etc....the actual figure is closer than you think to the Type-S

Theres not a lot of difference in weight. The handling characteristic of the DC5S has improved over the DC5R...the susspension geometry, steering response, braking feel, chassis re-inforcement so that negates the thought of being a lesser car against the Aus DC5R on the track. The gearing ratio is also longer on the DC5S

LMAO @ redbook dont do justice in weighing of the car.....
its like me posting this: http://www.carbuddy.com.au/car/research/specification/viewspecs.aspx?gid=45097&tid=12466166 <-----1160kgs DC5S which is bs.

Weigh the Recaro seats and the Type-S seats and see for yourself:)

DC5S Less tuning potential??....You even said it so get an 02-04 Harness to answer your question..simple LOL

You are one of these people who enforce that car x is better than car y. (In your case DC5S > DC5R)
Both have advantages and disadvatages in their own right and people are entitled to their own opinion.
There is no absolute on which car is better.

[EVLGTR]

Not to mention, DC5S dont have the rear intrusion bar like type r's do :thumbsup:
At the end of the day, DC5S is still heavier. Its not the weight of the seats that matters, its the overall weight. And if you're so keen on less weight, then why not just strip the whole car? People will always have their different views on DC5R vs DC5S, but like 45SET stated, DC5S will obviously have improvements (why build a newer model if you're not going to improve it?). Though, at the end of the day, there is probably more S owners who wished they owned an R ;)


The point of the rear intrusion bar is for safety, if we're talking safety. The DC5S may or may not have it but the rear cross member is a lot rigid than the Aus DC5R, not to mention, there is a mid-chassis intrusion bar on the DC5S.

LMAO...Being heavy doesnt sacrifice performance at all you twit. In reality the Aus DC5R only around 30-40kg since its fully optioned
I suggest you go watch Best Motoring int.: Civic Type-R Returns
There you will see a heavier FD2 Type R weighing 80kgs more and only 5hp more beating the updated 06 Integra Type R on track and drag.....hmmm explain to me why is that?...perhaps something to do with handling?, chassis tuning?, gearing ratio?.....oh boy you got a lot to learn

Im trying to compare our own DC5S and DC5R in that sense of way if you understand

Yeah you're right there is probably more S owner who wished they owned a Type R (the real JDM R) but i dont why they would degrade to the Aus Type R.

It is also ironic how the Type R owners in aust wished they owned the real JDM R....rofl

[EVLGTR]

most of them are not compatible with Kpro on their own.

What do you mean by "Most of them". Is there variations of other TYPE-S we dont know about??......theres only one S model here junior, the 05-06 Model.

They are either compatible or NOT compatible, theres no "most...maybe's,... if's...or buts" therefore they are compatible with K-PRO as you said all u need is the 02-04 Harness

[Zinyo]

LOLL It aint bs brother, im telling the truth and getting all my sources and facts from motoring reviewers and experts here in Australia.

Its a fact that you guys own an Aus DC5R and DONT want to hear that its inferior to a DC5S and a lot more inferior to the JDM DC5R....LOL.

You have got to be kidding yourself if you think we're delusional thinking the DC5R is > all. Fact of the matter is you seem to think you know a lot more than most people that have actually owned the car, which makes you an "all talk no go, bs artist...i took it from expert sources youtube video, i wanted to import jdm dc5r but cant...followed by your LOLLOLLOL..." Why are you even laughing at every single post, it makes you look like an immature internet warrior trying to stir the pot. Good on you...you made some valid points about the type s...but realistically, you sound like a kid... and I am not your brother...

[acurabot]

but i dont why they would degrade to the Aus Type R.

ROFL, so much for calling me a twit, because you can't even get your sentences correct. It's don't know* why not "i dont why". And I never said weight sacrifices performance, I was just stating that it's not the weight of the seats that matter, it's the car's overall weight that makes the differences - since you kept going on about comparing weights of the seats. Oh and by the way, all that FD2R vs DC5R is useless argument, we all know they got their differences and too many variables to compare! Sorry to burst your delusional bubble, but I'm sure more people will agree with me and against you :)


but realistically, you sound like a kid... and I am not your brother...

tell it how it is Zinyo :thumbsup:

[chargeR]

I don't know what issue you have with the AUDM DC5R EVLGTR but a lot of the junk you are spouting is just misinformed. A Type S is about as fast as an 02-04 Australian Type R around a circuit. It is also about as quick in a straight line. It is a more comfortable street car.

Many of the improvements you claim just don't exist. The only significant chassis change is the superior front strut brace on the Type S. The engine is superior but the only major changes are the exhaust cam, exhaust and the ECU tune. The car is significantly heavier. Also where is your evidence that no DC5Rs were ever delivered with no A/C in Australia? Surely someone ordered one.

[5thgen_prel]

both cars looks nice.......nd at the end of the day its the driver too not just the cars tat matters :D

[EVLGTR]

ROFL, so much for calling me a twit, because you can't even get your sentences correct. It's don't know* why not "i dont why". And I never said weight sacrifices performance, I was just stating that it's not the weight of the seats that matter, it's the car's overall weight that makes the differences - since you kept going on about comparing weights of the seats. Oh and by the way, all that FD2R vs DC5R is useless argument, we all know they got their differences and too many variables to compare! Sorry to burst your delusional bubble, but I'm sure more people will agree with me and against you :)

I didn't know you were so anal about my misprints, maybe you can correct Honda Australia's and other motoring reviewers misprint that the S is a little better than the R it replaced.

If the FD2R vs Updated DC5R argument is so useless to you then why is that the heavier FD2R be faster than the DC2R?.....

Aust DC5S vs DC5R has as much variables to begin with as well?.

Im laughing at some of the post here coz some are avoiding the FACT... loll....its actually pretty fun to compare these two cars

[EVLGTR]

You have got to be kidding yourself if you think we're delusional thinking the DC5R is > all. Fact of the matter is you seem to think you know a lot more than most people that have actually owned the car, which makes you an "all talk no go, bs artist...i took it from expert sources youtube video, i wanted to import jdm dc5r but cant...followed by your LOLLOLLOL..." Why are you even laughing at every single post, it makes you look like an immature internet warrior trying to stir the pot. Good on you...you made some valid points about the type s...but realistically, you sound like a kid... and I am not your brother...

LOL, im laughing coz you sound pretty serious. These valid points are called facts kiddo and no im not kidding myself or the others that our DC5R is a run-down version of the JDM DC5R....care for me to prove that?, yeah i thought so. rolf.... we dont live in a fantasy world you know

[45SET]

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[EVLGTR]

@ 45SET LMAO!!!, nice *.gif, it does look pretty entertaining doesnt it. arguing amongst our little ricer group....i dont mean to offend anyone but if you're offended and feeling a little cringed (you know who you are) then build a bridge and get over it

[45SET]

Now be honest... are you trolling this thread?

[Zinyo]

LOL, im laughing coz you sound pretty serious. These valid points are called facts kiddo and no im not kidding myself or the others that our DC5R is a run-down version of the JDM DC5R....care for me to prove that?, yeah i thought so. rolf.... we dont live in a fantasy world you know

You're laughing because im making serious neutral statements?? This is how i usually write. i dont bs and go round in circles like a fanboy...and because im not "lol" ing...Mature up a little dude =]

[EVLGTR]

Many of the improvements you claim just don't exist.

Read the Changes to 2004-2005 section and go figure....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Integra_DC5

....yeah, not a lot of changes mate. LOL

[EVLGTR]

You're laughing because im making serious statements?? This is how i usually write. i dont bs and go round in circles like a kid. because im not "lol" ing. Mature up a little dude =]

I dont bs either, you and i know our DC5R isnt the JDM DC5R...agree?

wow, have a look at wiki i posted about DC5R...the first paragraph of the intro actually states our '04 R is very similar to the '04 S in the US....you learn something everyday. For the record, this is how i write, im being honest and telling the truth. How much fact do you want me to post?.....like i said BRO get over it. lol

[Eskimo_firefighter]

i would get the dc5r, better engine, more comfortable, better interior. either way you cant go wrong cause the dc2r is awesome too.

[acurabot]

I didn't know you were so anal about my misprints, maybe you can correct Honda Australia's and other motoring reviewers misprint that the S is a little better than the R it replaced.

If the FD2R vs Updated DC5R argument is so useless to you then why is that the heavier FD2R be faster than the DC2R?.....

Aust DC5S vs DC5R has as much variables to begin with as well?.

Im laughing at some of the post here coz some are avoiding the FACT... loll....its actually pretty fun to compare these two cars

Haha, it's okay if your only defense is to compare FD2's against everything else. It's okay if your defense is to call me a twit and say I'm anal because you know you couldn't argue against me. Like I've said over and over again kido, I never said weight sacrificed performance. Go ahead and quote me if i did say that. I think you also need to build a bridge between handlings things like a kid and a mature adult and get over it too :)

[acurabot]

wow, have a look at wiki i posted about DC5R...the first paragraph of the intro actually states our '04 R is very similar to the '04 S in the US

It's funny because obviously you don't know what you're reading. The reason our R is similar to the S in the US is because the US call the DC5 Type R a RSX Type S so obviously, not much differences between the two. I guess you do learn something new everyday.

[EVLGTR]

It's funny because obviously you don't know what you're reading. The reason our R is similar to the S in the US is because the US call the DC5 Type R a RSX Type S so obviously, not much differences between the two. I guess you do learn something new everyday.

TRUE!!...and that charlie brown is the 04 RSX-S (our DC5R 02-04) has the same engine output of 197.1hp.
whereas the updated 06 RSX-S (our DC5S) has 206.5hp

Check mate....yep not much difference hey?, i guess i did learn. LOL

[EVLGTR]

Haha, it's okay if your only defense is to compare FD2's against everything else. It's okay if your defense is to call me a twit and say I'm anal because you know you couldn't argue against me. Like I've said over and over again kido, I never said weight sacrificed performance. Go ahead and quote me if i did say that. I think you also need to build a bridge between handlings things like a kid and a mature adult and get over it too :)

See, you still wont answer my question..... its just hilarious
I may not argue directly against you but you cant argue to the fact our DC5R isnt the JDM DC5R :)

My only defense isnt just comparing the FD2R to the new DC5R....i can show you another video of the JDM 1st gen DC5R against the 2nd gen DC5R as well if you like :D

You'd be shocked...lol

[acurabot]

TRUE!!...and that charlie brown is the 04 RSX-S (our DC5R 02-04) has the same engine output of 197.1hp.
whereas the updated 06 RSX-S (our DC5S) has 206.5hp

Check mate....yep not much difference hey?, i guess i did learn. LOL

Was I comparing our DC5R and S? No, I was comparing our R and their S. Do as you said yourself and get over it. I said that there was differences between our 04 DC5R and the 04 RSXS, not our R and our S so I don't know where you're making your point in reference to the point I made. And I'm glad your educated enough to be able to read :thumbsup: it was fun having this discussion with you kido :)

[EVLGTR]

Was I comparing our DC5R and S? No, I was comparing our R and their S. Do as you said yourself and get over it. I said that there was differences between our 04 DC5R and the 04 RSXS, not our R and our S so I don't know where you're making your point in reference to the point I made. And I'm glad your educated enough to be able to read :thumbsup: it was fun having this discussion with you kido :)

Oh excuses excuses, now we're comparing our DC5. Maybe you're the one needing to go to middle school and learn how to read. It states "However, the "Type R" sold in Oceania is very similar to the "Type-S" sold in North America".....and you're saying there was differences?...give me a break junior, they're VERY SIMILAR....look up the dictionary and read the meaning of the words VERY & SIMILAR. Once again you're still in check

[45SET]

Similarities end at the engine, suspension and brakes… Which is also the same as the preface-lift JDM Type S.

Exterior, chassis and interior is JDM DC5R.

[Philip Lee]

Oh excuses excuses, now we're comparing our DC5. Maybe you're the one needing to go to middle school and learn how to read. It states "However, the "Type R" sold in Oceania is very similar to the "Type-S" sold in North America".....and you're saying there was differences?...give me a break junior, they're VERY SIMILAR....look up the dictionary and read the meaning of the words VERY & SIMILAR. Once again you're still in check

of cos our DC5R is different to their Type S. we have recaro and momo etc etc.

[EVLGTR]

Similarities end at the engine, suspension and brakes… Which is also the same as the preface-lift JDM Type S.

Exterior, chassis and interior is JDM DC5R.

Yes you're right, then again, it ends there for our DC5R as it got replaced by the updated DC5S exterior, chassis and suspension.

[acurabot]

they're VERY SIMILAR....look up the dictionary and read the meaning of the words VERY & SIMILAR. Once again you're still in check

last time i checked, similar doesnt mean identical so obviously there are some differences.

[45SET]

Yes you're right, then again, it ends there for our DC5R as it got replaced by the updated DC5S exterior, chassis and suspension.

Then that was replaced by the FN2R...

So does that mean that we should all sell our inferior "DC5R" and DC5S's and get FN2R's?

[EVLGTR]

Then that was replaced by the FN2R...

So does that mean that we should all sell our inferior "DC5R" and DC5S's and get FN2R's?

FN2 are only 1 kw and 1nM torque better than DC5R. Where did you get that info of being superior? Get your facts straight

[EVLGTR]

last time i checked, similar doesnt mean identical so obviously there are some differences.

I didnt say identical did i you dumbass LOL. Go hit the dictionary again and look for the meaning of VERY SIMILAR coz IDENTICAL is a different word you twat LOL

[DC5.Raven]

What do you mean by "Most of them". Is there variations of other TYPE-S we dont know about??......theres only one S model here junior, the 05-06 Model.

They are either compatible or NOT compatible, theres no "most...maybe's,... if's...or buts" therefore they are compatible with K-PRO as you said all u need is the 02-04 Harness

A couple of years ago Hondata did not release a version of Kpro specific to the DC5S.
Thus back then only some ECU's from DC5S's were compatible with Kpro. But you still needed the 02-04 harness.
If your ECU from a DC5S was not compatible with Kpro then in addition to the 02-04 harness you would also need a DC5R ECU.

Refer to these threads:
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?104581-Hondata-kpro-for-dc5-type-s&highlight=DC5S+ECU+Kpro
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?113174-Faceflit-DC5-aftermarket-ECU-options&highlight=DC5S+ECU+Kpro

There is no need for your condescending attitude.
Maybe you should check your facts before u start flaming people.
I especially like how you completely ignore the input from chargeR.

[DC5.Raven]

Then that was replaced by the FN2R...

So does that mean that we should all sell our inferior "DC5R" and DC5S's and get FN2R's?

Double wishbone setups are over rated. My next mod is a torsion beam. LOL

[45SET]

FN2 are only 1 kw and 1nM torque better than DC5R. Where did you get that info of being superior? Get your facts straight

Now are you comparing the FN2R to the AUDM DC5R or JDM DC5R... and is that the pre-facelift of post-facelift DC5R?

[45SET]

Double wishbone setups are over rated. My next mod is a torsion beam. LOL

I can actually see why the Europeans put a torsion beam in the FN2R (As the FN2R was designed and built in the UK for those playing at home).

Quite a few other European hot hatch's (Renault Clio, Pugeot 206) run torsion beam rear ends... and I know the Renault Clio Sport Cup is considered to be one of the best performing N/A hatch backs in the world.

[DC5.Raven]

Tried my mates Clio Sport 172 actually. Not bad little cars. Quite surprised. Pretty sure it was running torsion beams at rear.
But thats beside the point of this thread.

[EVLGTR]

Now are you comparing the FN2R to the AUDM DC5R or JDM DC5R... and is that the pre-facelift of post-facelift DC5R?

You tell me, go back and re-read my whole post again.

[EVLGTR]

A couple of years ago Hondata did not release a version of Kpro specific to the DC5S.
Thus back then only some ECU's from DC5S's were compatible with Kpro. But you still needed the 02-04 harness.
If your ECU from a DC5S was not compatible with Kpro then in addition to the 02-04 harness you would also need a DC5R ECU.

Refer to these threads:
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?104581-Hondata-kpro-for-dc5-type-s&highlight=DC5S+ECU+Kpro
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?113174-Faceflit-DC5-aftermarket-ECU-options&highlight=DC5S+ECU+Kpro

There is no need for your condescending attitude.
Maybe you should check your facts before u start flaming people.
I especially like how you completely ignore the input from chargeR.

LOL. Guys i dont wanna start trouble or anything but it is really upsetting to know that our DC5R isnt the real JDM R isnt it?....no wonder you guys are eager to dispute each post i wrote.

Anyway i will apologies but think about it. IT AINT THE REAL JDM and like i said get over it. end of story

Take a deep breath, relax and I hope that concludes it. lol

[chargeR]

LOL. Guys i dont wanna start trouble or anything but it is really upsetting to know that our DC5R isnt the real JDM R isnt it?....no wonder you guys are eager to dispute each post i wrote.

Anyway i will apologies but think about it. IT AINT THE REAL JDM and like i said get over it. end of story

Take a deep breath, relax and I hope that concludes it. lol

I have driven a JDM DC5R, an AUDM Type S and own an AUDM DC5R. The differences just aren't worth getting worked up over. It is not like comparing an Evo to a DC5R for example where the differences in engineering and the way they drive are like chalk and cheese. The cars are very similar, and if for example one wanted to build a very heavily modified track car it would make not one whit of difference which car you started with.

[acurabot]

I didnt say identical did i you dumbass LOL. Go hit the dictionary again and look for the meaning of VERY SIMILAR coz IDENTICAL is a different word you twat LOL

LMAO, you're one funny guy! guess you always misread your facts aye. For the dumb people who misread things, the definition of similar doesn't mean identical. Oh yeah, my bad. I forgot about your mental capacity is equal to that of a chicken.

[EVLGTR]

LMAO, you're one funny guy! guess you always misread your facts aye. For the dumb people who misread things, the definition of similar doesn't mean identical. Oh yeah, my bad. I forgot about your mental capacity is equal to that of a chicken.

In case you didnt know the definition of "Identical" means Equal. "Similar" means much alike or having characteristic in common.

You were the dumbshit who said our DC5R is similar to the US RSX-S. If you back track and read what i wrote i mentioned the "updated" DC5S that we have therefore meaning the 05-06 RSX-S in the US.

And so that comes to our DC5R comparing against the 06 DC5S (05-06 RSX-S)......there IS NO similarity to those two, i think what you meant was the "similarity" between our 02-04 DC5R and the 02-04 RSX-S which is yes they are similar

ROFL @ your Hannah Montana insult "your mental capacity is equal to that of a chicken", nice one dipshit.

[EVLGTR]

Tell me you guys, do you like driving you non-JDM Aust delivered DC5 Type-R's?.........just a simple yes and no question, im curious

[danielj]

Tell me you guys, do you like driving you non-JDM DC5 Type-R's?.........just a simple yes and no question, im curious

yes :)

[EVLGTR]

Another way i see the DC5R is that it had to live up to the DC2R's expectation unlike the DC5 Type-S was just on its own

Type R http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=41742&vf=1
Type S http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=9071&vf=1&pg=2&IsPgd=0

The DC2 was modified with great passion from Honda as it became the Type-R model. The DC5 started fresh as a completely new car in 2002 but later on was refined further in 2005

[EVLGTR]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7GDQ_kxnoY

enjoy.......

[Greeny]

Nice Vid


Best Lap times
new DC5r 1'11"49 - 1'12"23
old DC5r 1'11"78 - 1'11"66
DC5S 1'17"32

i know it does not mean much but is that almost 6 sec

[acurabot]

In case you didnt know the definition of "Identical" means Equal. "Similar" means much alike or having characteristic in common.

You were the dumbshit who said our DC5R is similar to the US RSX-S. If you back track and read what i wrote i mentioned the "updated" DC5S that we have therefore meaning the 05-06 RSX-S in the US.

And so that comes to our DC5R comparing against the 06 DC5S (05-06 RSX-S)......there IS NO similarity to those two, i think what you meant was the "similarity" between our 02-04 DC5R and the 02-04 RSX-S which is yes they are similar

ROFL @ your Hannah Montana insult "your mental capacity is equal to that of a chicken", nice one dipshit.

I dont watch Hannah Montana. Only girls do :)

[EVLGTR]

Nice Vid


Best Lap times
new DC5r 1'11"49 - 1'12"23
old DC5r 1'11"78 - 1'11"66
DC5S 1'17"32

i know it does not mean much but is that almost 6 sec

The S in japan is the base model, hence the 160hp

[Greeny]

The S in japan is the base model, hence the 160hp

now im lost as in the video at 17:08 it states "Yes, the type-s. I know the model was developed mainly for the U.S market."

so jdm type-s = AUDM 02-05 DC5 but the USDM 02-05 Type-s = AUDM type-r 02-05 without interior

it was nice to see the type-r out in front of the wrx

[aaronng]

so jdm type-s = AUDM 02-05 DC5 but the USDM 02-05 Type-s = AUDM type-r 02-05 without interior

No. USDM 02-05 Type S = AUDM Type S (but we only had it in 06 onwards)
The reason being that the USDM Type S did not have an LSD, while the AUDM Type R did have an LSD.

[EVLGTR]

No. USDM 02-05 Type S = AUDM Type S (but we only had it in 06 onwards)
The reason being that the USDM Type S did not have an LSD, while the AUDM Type R did have an LSD.

Close but not quiet right...

USDM 02-04 RSX-S = AU 02-04 Type-R (around 198hp)
USDM 05-06 RSX-S = AU 05-06 Type-S (around 207hp)

[Greeny]

Close but not quiet right...

USDM 02-04 RSX-S = AU 02-04 Type-R (around 198hp)
USDM 05-06 RSX-S = AU 05-06 Type-S (around 207hp)

so where does the type-s comin from in the vid

[l__i__l]

Close but not quiet right...

USDM 02-04 RSX-S = AU 02-04 Type-R (around 198hp)
USDM 05-06 RSX-S = AU 05-06 Type-S (around 207hp)

reallyy since when did the usdm 02-04 start having recaros and lsd?

[45SET]

LOL. Guys i dont wanna start trouble or anything but it is really upsetting to know that our DC5R isnt the real JDM R isnt it?....no wonder you guys are eager to dispute each post i wrote.

Anyway i will apologies but think about it. IT AINT THE REAL JDM and like i said get over it. end of story

Take a deep breath, relax and I hope that concludes it. lol

You are the one that is getting so worked up about it. I don't think anyone here that owns a AUDM DC5R has once said that it is the exact same car as the JDM DC5R. WE have said a few times that they are similar (http://www.elook.org/dictionary/similar.html), in that they do have the same interior, chassis etc...


Tell me you guys, do you like driving you non-JDM Aust delivered DC5 Type-R's?.........just a simple yes and no question, im curious

Yes


Close but not quiet right...

USDM 02-04 RSX-S = AU 02-04 Type-R (around 198hp)
USDM 05-06 RSX-S = AU 05-06 Type-S (around 207hp)

Are you getting this info from the wiki site?

Let me brake it down for you... AGAIN.

The 02-04 AUDM DC5R is made up of the following

02-04 JDM DC5R Chassis
02-04 JDM DC5R Exterior
02-04 JDM DC5R Interior
02-04 JDM DC5R LSD
02-04 JDM DC5S engine
02-04 JDM DC5S suspension
02-04 JDM DC5S brakes

I think I've said this about 2 times in this thread... and you seem to over look it every time.

The AUDM DC5R is not the same as the USDM RSX-S. Look for some pictures of a interior striped RSX-S, and then of an AUDM DC5R, there are plenty more braces in the AUDM DC5R. It might not mean much, but the AUDM DC5R also came with the stock strut/chassis brace (Which was revised for the AUDM Type S). Look at a pic of an engine bay for a RSX-S, no stock strut/chassis brace.

[thegame-01]

Awsome vid man.

and 45SET nice info man your on the ball :D

and yes to EVLGTR Question

[DC5.Raven]

LOL. Guys i dont wanna start trouble or anything but it is really upsetting to know that our DC5R isnt the real JDM R isnt it?....no wonder you guys are eager to dispute each post i wrote.

Anyway i will apologies but think about it. IT AINT THE REAL JDM and like i said get over it. end of story

Take a deep breath, relax and I hope that concludes it. lol

Like everyone has mentioned, people know and accept that the AUDM DC5R is not the 'real' JDM DC5R.
Why is this even relevant now?
First you continually to assert the point that the AUDM DC5S is far superior to the AUDM DC5R,
now you're moving onto JDM vs AUDM?

In regards to your 'first' main argument of AUDM DC5S > DC5R,
people are entitled to their own opinion. Leave it at that.
I am a DC5S owner and have driven a DC5R. Both have their pros and cons.

What is the relevance of bringing in the video of pre-facelift vs facelift JDM DC5R?
AUDM DC5R and AUDM DC5S is neither of those cars. They may be similar but not identical.
The Facelift JDM DC5R may be further refined and better than the JDM PreFacelift DC5R but that does not translate to the AUDM DC5S being better than the AUDM DC5R.

[DC5.Raven]

so where does the type-s comin from in the vid

What EVLGTR said.
The JDM DC5S is 'similar' to our Base/Luxury DC5

[acurabot]

You are the one that is getting so worked up about it. I don't think anyone here that owns a AUDM DC5R has once said that it is the exact same car as the JDM DC5R. WE have said a few times that they are similar (http://www.elook.org/dictionary/similar.html), in that they do have the same interior, chassis etc...



Yes



Are you getting this info from the wiki site?

Let me brake it down for you... AGAIN.

The 02-04 AUDM DC5R is made up of the following

02-04 JDM DC5R Chassis
02-04 JDM DC5R Exterior
02-04 JDM DC5R Interior
02-04 JDM DC5R LSD
02-04 JDM DC5S engine
02-04 JDM DC5S suspension
02-04 JDM DC5S brakes

I think I've said this about 2 times in this thread... and you seem to over look it every time.

The AUDM DC5R is not the same as the USDM RSX-S. Look for some pictures of a interior striped RSX-S, and then of an AUDM DC5R, there are plenty more braces in the AUDM DC5R. It might not mean much, but the AUDM DC5R also came with the stock strut/chassis brace (Which was revised for the AUDM Type S). Look at a pic of an engine bay for a RSX-S, no stock strut/chassis brace.

I couldn't have said it better. You are my idol :angel:

[EVLGTR]

Are you getting this info from the wiki site?

Let me brake it down for you... AGAIN.

The 02-04 AUDM DC5R is made up of the following

02-04 JDM DC5R Chassis
02-04 JDM DC5R Exterior
02-04 JDM DC5R Interior
02-04 JDM DC5R LSD
02-04 JDM DC5S engine
02-04 JDM DC5S suspension
02-04 JDM DC5S brakes

I think I've said this about 2 times in this thread... and you seem to over look it every time.

The AUDM DC5R is not the same as the USDM RSX-S. Look for some pictures of a interior striped RSX-S, and then of an AUDM DC5R, there are plenty more braces in the AUDM DC5R. It might not mean much, but the AUDM DC5R also came with the stock strut/chassis brace (Which was revised for the AUDM Type S). Look at a pic of an engine bay for a RSX-S, no stock strut/chassis brace.

...oh geez correct me if im wrong but I didnt know there was a 2002-2004 JDM DC5 Type-S LOL. I thought the Type-S series for the Integra came in around 05-06

in that case the engine of the JDM DC5S is only 160hp.....surprisingly is what we have in our DC5R you say?

[EVLGTR]

I couldn't have said it better. You are my idol :angel:

you're 45SET's idol?, a big fan ey?....yeah, he'll let you suck him off later on LOL

[EVLGTR]

Like everyone has mentioned, people know and accept that the AUDM DC5R is not the 'real' JDM DC5R.
Why is this even relevant now?
First you continually to assert the point that the AUDM DC5S is far superior to the AUDM DC5R,
now you're moving onto JDM vs AUDM?

In regards to your 'first' main argument of AUDM DC5S > DC5R,
people are entitled to their own opinion. Leave it at that.
I am a DC5S owner and have driven a DC5R. Both have their pros and cons.

What is the relevance of bringing in the video of pre-facelift vs facelift JDM DC5R?
AUDM DC5R and AUDM DC5S is neither of those cars. They may be similar but not identical.
The Facelift JDM DC5R may be further refined and better than the JDM PreFacelift DC5R but that does not translate to the AUDM DC5S being better than the AUDM DC5R.

Well sonny Jim, there's only one way to find out a stock 05-06 Aus DC5S vs 02-04 Aus DC5R is to run it on a 1/4 mile. I have the slightest doubt the Aus DC5R would win. Weight doesnt have anything to do with the winning formula as ive mentioned to watch the BMI: Civic Type R Returns........ a heavier FD2 winning it vs. the lighter DC5R (as an example)

Secret is in the gearing ratio of the Aus DC5S and its top-end power

[EVLGTR]

....Really guys, as all of you might have thought about my behavior im not here to make trouble, ive already apologies

[EVLGTR]

Look at a pic of an engine bay for a RSX-S, no stock strut/chassis brace.

http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/2002_acura_rsx_type_s_100004677_m.jpg

Im clearly looking at the pic of the engine bay of an RSX-S......you sure there isnt a strut brace????

You need an eye check, mate. (No offence)

....please sir, feel free to break it down for me...AGAIN!!!.....LOL

[45SET]

http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/2002_acura_rsx_type_s_100004677_m.jpg

Im clearly looking at the pic of the engine bay of an RSX-S......you sure there isnt a strut brace????

You need an eye check, mate. (No offence)

....please sir, feel free to break it down for me...AGAIN!!!.....LOL

I stand corrected. But for someone that has apologised about 4 times now, saying they aren't here to cause shit or anything, you are doing a poor job of it by constantly harassing members.


...oh geez correct me if im wrong but I didnt know there was a 2002-2004 JDM DC5 Type-S LOL. I thought the Type-S series for the Integra came in around 05-06

in that case the engine of the JDM DC5S is only 160hp.....surprisingly is what we have in our DC5R you say?

There you go, learn something new every day. No it's not surprising. We have all known that the AUDM DC5R has the K20a2 since we bought our cars.

I'm still struggling to see what you are trying to prove by this thread and constant arguing. Are you trying to make owners of AUDM DC5R feel bad because they didn't buy a "True Type R" (JDM DC5R)? Because, it's not working.

[DC5.Raven]

Well sonny Jim, there's only one way to find out a stock 05-06 Aus DC5S vs 02-04 Aus DC5R is to run it on a 1/4 mile. I have the slightest doubt the Aus DC5R would win. Weight doesnt have anything to do with the winning formula as ive mentioned to watch the BMI: Civic Type R Returns........ a heavier FD2 winning it vs. the lighter DC5R (as an example)

Secret is in the gearing ratio of the Aus DC5S and its top-end power

Sorry I believe you are wrong.
Weight has everything to do with the winning forumla.
You're telling me that in a 1/4 mile run weight has nothing to do with it? And even around the track?
Tell the people with stripped interiors that theyre stupid.
Instead they should have a full car with groceries in the back.

In the case of the FD2R vs DC5R you are comparing apples and oranges.
FD2R has more weight, more power and better design & balanced car.
On a given car with similar chassis, engine features and what not (AUDM DC5R vs AUDM DC5S) weight WILL factor into it both on the drag strip and around a track.

Whats it to you anyway that people dont agree with your view that the "DC5S is better than the DC5R"?
People have their own views and opinions.
Is it so wrong that some people think the AUDM DC5R is better than the AUDM DC5S?
Its not worth getting your panties in a tiwst over it.
If your not here to shit stir then leave it at that.

[acurabot]

you're 45SET's idol?, a big fan ey?....yeah, he'll let you suck him off later on LOL

stop misreading kiddo, i never said i'm his idol. And what's with you and gay thoughts. If you're really into sucking dick, ask your dad. And maybe you should ask your mum where you came from, because she will tell you, that you were the cum she should've swallowed. you prick. go be gay somewhere else.

[EVLGTR]

Sorry I believe you are wrong.
Weight has everything to do with the winning forumla.
You're telling me that in a 1/4 mile run weight has nothing to do with it? And even around the track?
Tell the people with stripped interiors that theyre stupid.
Instead they should have a full car with groceries in the back.


In the case of the FD2R vs DC5R you are comparing apples and oranges.
FD2R has more weight, more power and better design & balanced car.
On a given car with similar chassis, engine features and what not (AUDM DC5R vs AUDM DC5S) weight WILL factor into it both on the drag strip and around a track.

Whats it to you anyway that people dont agree with your view that the "DC5S is better than the DC5R"?
People have their own views and opinions.
Is it so wrong that some people think the AUDM DC5R is better than the AUDM DC5S?
Its not worth getting your panties in a tiwst over it.
If your not here to shit stir then leave it at that.

FD2R: 1270kg, 225hp
New DC5R: 1180kg, 220hp

.....and you're saying FD2R has more power?...its only 5 hp......LMAO!!!!....mate, you're a F@#ing joke. OK dude, i'll leave it at that. Once again sorry for the language LOL

[EVLGTR]

stop misreading kiddo, i never said i'm his idol. And what's with you and gay thoughts. If you're really into sucking dick, ask your dad. And maybe you should ask your mum where you came from, because she will tell you, that you were the cum she should've swallowed. you prick. go be gay somewhere else.

oooh looks like ive touched your nerves...getting upset are we? LOLL

[EVLGTR]

I stand corrected. But for someone that has apologised about 4 times now, saying they aren't here to cause shit or anything, you are doing a poor job of it by constantly harassing members.



There you go, learn something new every day. No it's not surprising. We have all known that the AUDM DC5R has the K20a2 since we bought our cars.

I'm still struggling to see what you are trying to prove by this thread and constant arguing. Are you trying to make owners of AUDM DC5R feel bad because they didn't buy a "True Type R" (JDM DC5R)? Because, it's not working.

Alright well dont just sit there....prove to me and look for a legit image/video of an 02-04 JDM INTEGRA TYPE-S.....remember im still learning mate.

No, im not making you guys feel bad about ur NON-jdm DC5R, both of us know that it aint REAL so go and cruise around with your cool little group for all i care.
Im just pondering why you guys here spend so much time here replying or even getting upset and being all sensitive about my behaviour on each post, now THAT makes me think how bad you guys feel about your car......

Id like to about what i just wrote then but no need coz it might just upset you guys.

[acurabot]

oooh looks like ive touched your nerves...getting upset are we? LOLL

its alright, i know the truth hurts you very much ;)

[DC5.Raven]

FD2R: 1270kg, 225hp
New DC5R: 1180kg, 220hp

.....and you're saying FD2R has more power?...its only 5 hp......LMAO!!!!....mate, you're a ****ing joke.

So 225hp is not more power than 220hp?
I did mention that the FD2R is a better balanced car.
Better gearing, balance etc etc etc.
The difference between the AUDM DC5S and AUDM DC5R arent as great as FD2R to DC5R.

So when u go down to the drag strip do you go with a full car, 3 passengers and groceries in the back.
You must be stupid to think weight has nothing to do with it.

Why are you getting so upset that people dont agree with you that a AUDM DC5S > AUDM DC5R?
Does it upset you when people dont always agree with you?
Do feel a need to constantly be right?
People DIFFER in their opinions and preferences.
Why cant you let them be?

Who are you to tell people what they like and why they are not allowed to think that an AUDM DC5R is better than the AUDM DC5S?
Mate they are different cars that target different people and different tastes.

[EVLGTR]

Honestly this has to be the best thread ive come across, its really interesting communicating with all of you, each day just flies by so fast.

Look guys how about i offer you (DC5 Raven, 45SET and Acurabot) friendship and end it there. LOL

http://static.funnyjunk.com/gifs/9sfmrk.gif

[45SET]

You make is sound so sincere with the "LOL" at the...

I'm more then happy to end it, because I don't think you even know what you are arguing about anymore. You've moved on from "DC5S is better then AUDM DC5R" to "AUDM DC5R isn't a real JDM DC5R" to "Weight has nothing to do with how a car performs.


Alright well dont just sit there....prove to me and look for a legit image/video of an 02-04 JDM INTEGRA TYPE-S.....remember im still learning mate.

No, im not making you guys feel bad about ur NON-jdm DC5R, both of us know that it aint REAL so go and cruise around with your cool little group for all i care.
Im just pondering why you guys here spend so much time here replying or even getting upset and being all sensitive about my behaviour on each post, now THAT makes me think how bad you guys feel about your car......

Id like to about what i just wrote then but no need coz it might just upset you guys.


You are still learning... yet you are telling us our car's aren't good... wow...

The 02-04 JDM Type S is in a best motoring video of the 02-04 Type R.

For your information, I'm not getting upset... just think that some of your statements are incorrect.

Last sentence makes no scene what so ever.

[EVLGTR]

So 225hp is not more power than 220hp?
I did mention that the FD2R is a better balanced car.
Better gearing, balance etc etc etc.
The difference between the AUDM DC5S and AUDM DC5R arent as great as FD2R to DC5R.

So when u go down to the drag strip do you go with a full car, 3 passengers and groceries in the back.
You must be stupid to think weight has nothing to do with it.

Why are you getting so upset that people dont agree with you that a AUDM DC5S > AUDM DC5R?
Does it upset you when people dont always agree with you?
Do feel a need to constantly be right?
People DIFFER in their opinions and preferences.
Why cant you let them be?

Who are you to tell people what they like and why they are not allowed to think that an AUDM DC5R is better than the AUDM DC5S?
Mate they are different cars that target different people and different tastes.

in that case for example Car A = 10hp and Car B = 11hp......Car A would win coz it has more hp???, see this is why it makes me laugh but i shouldnt

Define MORE and define a LITTE BIT.....

[EVLGTR]

You make is sound so sincere with the "LOL" at the...

I'm more then happy to end it, because I don't think you even know what you are arguing about anymore. You've moved on from "DC5S is better then AUDM DC5R" to "AUDM DC5R isn't a real JDM DC5R" to "Weight has nothing to do with how a car performs.

The reason why ive gone so far is to broaden the variations, i know its hard to understand for you guys and.....anyway alright fair enough end it there.
I wont even bother letting you search for a legit image of an 02-04 JDM ITS....yes yes sir i believe you that there is such thing as an 02-04 JDM Integra Type S

[DC5.Raven]

You make is sound so sincere with the "LOL" at the...

I'm more then happy to end it, because I don't think you even know what you are arguing about anymore. You've moved on from "DC5S is better then AUDM DC5R" to "AUDM DC5R isn't a real JDM DC5R" to "Weight has nothing to do with how a car performs.




You are still learning... yet you are telling us our car's aren't good... wow...

The 02-04 JDM Type S is in a best motoring video of the 02-04 Type R.

For your information, I'm not getting upset... just think that some of your statements are incorrect.

Last sentence makes no scene what so ever.

^ What he said.

[EVLGTR]

You make is sound so sincere with the "LOL" at the...

I'm more then happy to end it, because I don't think you even know what you are arguing about anymore. You've moved on from "DC5S is better then AUDM DC5R" to "AUDM DC5R isn't a real JDM DC5R" to "Weight has nothing to do with how a car performs



You are still learning... yet you are telling us our car's aren't good... wow...

The 02-04 JDM Type S is in a best motoring video of the 02-04 Type R.

For your information, I'm not getting upset... just think that some of your statements are incorrect.

Last sentence makes no scene what so ever.


WOW is there really a 02-04 JDM Type S? which volume? wheres the vid on you or whereever???, post it plus technical specs and everything!!!!!!.....im excited to see :)

oops typo about my last previous sentence, i meant to say I'd like to laugh at your post but dont want coz it might upset you....

"my last sentence makes no scene what so ever".....right and take a look at yours buddy

[DC5.Raven]

in that case for example Car A = 10hp and Car B = 11hp......Car A would win coz it has more hp???, see this is why it makes me laugh but i shouldnt

Define MORE and define a LITTE BIT.....

You're more than welcome to believe whatever you want to believe:
(That a AUDM DC5S is much better than an AUDM DC5R, That weight has nothing to do with performance, that you are always right and so on)
Theres is no point contuing this discussion if you are soing to start arguing based on definitions.
In what kind of world is 225hp not more than 220hp?
What is even the point of arguing the definitions of more and alittle?

[EVLGTR]

You're more than welcome to believe whatever you want to believe:
(That a AUDM DC5S is much better than an AUDM DC5R, That weight has nothing to do with performance, that you are always right and so on)
Theres is no point contuing this discussion if you are soing to start arguing based on definitions.
In what kind of world is 225hp not more than 220hp?
What is even the point of arguing the definitions of more and alittle?

LMAO! alright if theres no point how about we shake on it (that includes 45SET and acurabot), hey im the one offering you here.

[Zinyo]

WOW...so much has happened since i last logged on...lol
EVLGTR, wether you want to take this as an offence or a constructive comment..take it with an open mind.
Whatever it is you're trying to achieve making us realise that we dont own the JDM DC5R; we already know that and to answer your question, i think we do enjoy driving the AUDM DC5R regardless, so anything you say to convince us otherwise doesnt really matter to the owners of DC5R/S. 5R or 5S or 2R we like/hate different things about them. If you really claim to be so knowledgeable as "you" seem to think...which i personally dont think you are...i think it is you who need to "get over it" and move on. If you read your posts, you would realise you claim to be the most "correct" person in Ozhonda, but you are not...so go buy yourself watever car you want and argue about it not being a "JDM" model as chance are a large percentage of cars here are different to AUS production mainly due to our low octane fuel and other factors...dont whinge, harden up, and dont expect anyone to agree with you when you act like the way you do...

[thegame-01]

^^^ NIce mate love your response :D +1

[EVLGTR]

WOW...so much has happened since i last logged on...lol
EVLGTR, wether you want to take this as an offence or a constructive comment..take it with an open mind.
Whatever it is you're trying to achieve making us realise that we dont own the JDM DC5R; we already know that and to answer your question, i think we do enjoy driving the AUDM DC5R regardless, so anything you say to convince us otherwise doesnt really matter to the owners of DC5R/S. 5R or 5S or 2R we like/hate different things about them. If you really claim to be so knowledgeable as "you" seem to think...which i personally dont think you are...i think it is you who need to "get over it" and move on. If you read your posts, you would realise you claim to be the most "correct" person in Ozhonda, but you are not...so go buy yourself watever car you want and argue about it not being a "JDM" model as chance are a large percentage of cars here are different to AUS production mainly due to our low octane fuel and other factors...dont whinge, harden up, and dont expect anyone to agree with you when you act like the way you do...

Thanks for your heartfelt essay LOL, i dont claim to be knowledgable, i never said i was in the first place. You guys are assuming i have knowledge. Im just trying to bring out the truth about our DC5R how it got refined over the years with the S thats all and if these guys get offended or loves their NON JDM DC5R then let it be.......LOL

Some of these guys, such as 45SET, are EVEN trying to correct me without any proof, images or video, whatsoever. LMAO

I gotta admit this is for the fun of it. Even yourself take this thread pretty serious since you're obliged to reply to my post. Heck, i even wanna make friends with them or yourself at this point and im still getting no reply or a hint of friendship

Perhaps insecurity?

...for the record i did buy myself a JDM car *coughs* "imported JDM" which is a Skyline R32 GTR so theres no need for me to whinge:)

[Philip Lee]

in that case for example Car A = 10hp and Car B = 11hp......Car A would win coz it has more hp???, see this is why it makes me laugh but i shouldnt

Define MORE and define a LITTE BIT.....

you do know there is more to the picture than just a quoted peak figure?

what about torque? power band? gearing/final drive? tyres? weight distribution? clutch? total weight? etc etc even small thing like tyre pressue can make a huge different

all these would effect the result and i won't be surprised an optimised car A can beat car B.

seriously the more you speak, the more you show that you know very little.

there is a BM type r group test video and an EP3 beats a DC5R while EP3 only has 158kw. try to search it on youtube.

[bungsai]

...for the record i did buy myself a JDM car *coughs* "imported JDM" which is a Skyline R32 GTR so theres no need for me to whinge:)



but what did you get? Because we all know that in order to have the true JDM R32 it has to be the VSPECII unless you prefer the N1 because it has no ABS or aircon...or maybe because it didnt come with the brembos that makes it not the true R32 GTR............................................... ..ohh shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii..http://forums.clubitr.com.au/images/smilies/rotfl.gif

[r3ckless]

Thread should be closed... Dc4 vtir is the cruiser type for thay body, dc2r is the boy racer.... Dc5r is boy racer, dc5s is cruise.

[burak213]

dont feed the troll ay

[EVLGTR]

but what did you get? Because we all know that in order to have the true JDM R32 it has to be the VSPECII unless you prefer the N1 because it has no ABS or aircon...or maybe because it didnt come with the brembos that makes it not the true R32 GTR............................................... ..ohh shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii..http://forums.clubitr.com.au/images/smilies/rotfl.gif

LOL interested in my 32 GTR all of a sudden??, nah ive only got the ordinary run-of-the-mill R32 GTR, when i got it the RB26 Engine was kept stock, The suspension and brakes were of Nismo, rear diff was replaced as well, had an aftermarket oil cooler...etc.

Anyway i dont wanna talk about it more in here coz its out of the topic and afraid i might start another feedback.

Why dont you come to our domain skylinesdownunder.com, register yourself and we'll talk extensively with the boys?

[EVLGTR]

No "Friendship" hints from any of the guys yet? (Dc5 Raven, 45SET, Acurbot, Zinyo).

You know whats funny, 1 Member in here has already rejected my add-friend request....ROFL. Thought you Honda blokes are fun people.

Truth covers insecurity.

[burak213]

you know whats funny?

i took my car to the track and some nissan boy said nice type R

-

also someone asked what i drive i said integra dc5 and he said "ohhh type R?" and i said no Type S he gave me the biggest confused look.


so the point is the type R has more street cred that is known to all other boy racers with different cars.

like i said only the smart ones know about the S.

;)

[GSi_PSi]

Did a AUDM DC5R run over your dog or something?

[Philip Lee]

that's not funny.

ppl look at my car and don't know what it is.

some ppl think it's a jazz and when they see the type r badge they got confused lol

j/k

[Zinyo]

Thanks for your heartfelt essay LOL, i dont claim to be knowledgable, i never said i was in the first place. You guys are assuming i have knowledge. Im just trying to bring out the truth about our DC5R how it got refined over the years with the S thats all and if these guys get offended or loves their NON JDM DC5R then let it be.......LOL

Some of these guys, such as 45SET, are EVEN trying to correct me without any proof, images or video, whatsoever. LMAO

I gotta admit this is for the fun of it. Even yourself take this thread pretty serious since you're obliged to reply to my post. Heck, i even wanna make friends with them or yourself at this point and im still getting no reply or a hint of friendship

Perhaps insecurity?

...for the record i did buy myself a JDM car *coughs* "imported JDM" which is a Skyline R32 GTR so theres no need for me to whinge:)

Heartfelt reply...pfftt :) Actually I didnt assume you had knowledge, fact that you watched BM on youtube and read wikipedia doesnt make you a PHD...Well............its not that i feel obliged to reply to you...its just fun replying to you as i havent looked at this forum in 3 days and when i looked at recently,it was still post no 1 on integra page and you were still going at it...i mean good on you that you know so much bout the integras even when you own a skyline but LOL @ you when you try to argue against against the ppl that own the cars, and obviously we all knows whats good and bad about our cars. R32..."cough"..."imported" GTR...1989...meh...did u expect us to awe....lol...get over it.

[EVLGTR]

Heartfelt reply...pfftt :) Actually I didnt assume you had knowledge, fact that you watched BM on youtube and read wikipedia doesnt make you a PHD...Well............its not that i feel obliged to reply to you...its just fun replying to you as i havent looked at this forum in 3 days and when i looked at recently,it was still post no 1 on integra page and you were still going at it...i mean good on you that you know so much bout the integras even when you own a skyline but LOL @ you when you try to argue against against the ppl that own the cars, and obviously we all knows whats good and bad about our cars. R32..."cough"..."imported" GTR...1989...meh...did u expect us to awe....lol...get over it.

At least ive got images/videos and fact to back me unlike others who thinks there is no strut braces on an 02-04 RSX-S for example. or even a JDM version of 02-04 DC5 Type-S existed.....ROFL.

Nah you guys dont really need to awe my 32 GTR, most people in the motoring industry already knows its status. Dont really need much proof how good a Godzilla is.....*yawns*..LMAO

by the way thanks for adding me dude.:)

[EVLGTR]

that's not funny.

ppl look at my car and don't know what it is.

some ppl think it's a jazz and when they see the type r badge they got confused lol

j/k

LOL @ jazz, shouldve told them its a FIT. nah EP3's are great cars, its something i wanna drive besides the JDM DC2R one day.

[Mikecivic78]

Hey guys, I am looking to purchase an 02-04 Integra Type R DC5 aus spec soon, and was wondering what you guys think of them.

Any info, hints, advice on the Type R's would be good.

Cheers, Micky.

Amusing thread, I LMAO. Some of u need to take a valium and chill out LOL.

Look at the above quote, did the guy even mention the Type S? (Rhetorical question- of course not).

[EVLGTR]

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!......you guys know what happened to the originator of this thread SHMIKO_S14A?, he sounded like an extremely polite and well-mannered young person after reading all of these post

[chinesewhisperz]

At least ive got images/videos and fact to back me unlike others who thinks there is no strut braces on an 02-04 RSX-S for example. or even a JDM version of 02-04 DC5 Type-S existed.....ROFL.

Nah you guys dont really need to awe my 32 GTR, most people in the motoring industry already knows its status. Dont really need much proof how good a Godzilla is.....*yawns*..LMAO

by the way thanks for adding me dude.:)

If you didn't get yourself a 32. You would still be crying yourself to sleep each night. Nice choice btw. LOL

[EVLGTR]

You guys know how to function check an LSD in an Integra DC2R, DC5R and DC5S to determine its an open or helical diff by raising the car putting it into "Neutral" or 1st gear and rotating a wheel manually etc....?

Would be an educational post on how-to if anyone knows. Im just curious coz apparently im still learning.

[DLO01]

Thanks to the people that helped out the OP in this thread.

Closed.