wheel alighnment done for eg please translate(pix inside)

[4age8u]

Hey guys just got my wheel alighnment for my eg..its on munro shocks and king lows,205 40 r17

anwyays they guy said my camber was bad and i needed new front camber kit $690 plus $200 labour and that will fix it:( i told him to gtfo:wave: ill just buy new tires every 6months and itll end up cheaper:)

abit of a noob here and dont know how to read the measurments so anyhelp will be greatly appriciated



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sorry about the small pic stupid scanner

[Timmy_B]

Hey guys just got my wheel alighnment for my eg..its on munro shocks and king lows,205 40 r17




well there is your problem right there..
your running 17"s on an EG and when you changed from factory 14" to 17"s your didn't change your camber kit. thats why ppl have problems when they go from a 14" to a 17"
17" are massive.. I think it looks so much better when ppl run a 15" and 1' to 2' inch drop.. Now that a clean EG, none of these massive wheels shit..
but thats just my opinion......

[lil_foy]

well there is your problem right there..
your running 17"s on an EG and when you changed from factory 14" to 17"s your didn't change your camber kit. thats why ppl have problems when they go from a 14" to a 17"
17" are massive.. I think it looks so much better when ppl run a 15" and 1' to 2' inch drop.. Now that a clean EG, none of these massive wheels shit..
but thats just my opinion......

Looks hardly have anything to do with it.
Noone gives a shit about what you like tbh.

The ****ed up camber is because your stock camber arms arnt adjustable and as the car gets lowered it naturally makes camber.

There is ghetto ways to fix this with washers as spacers, look into it if you're interested be tbh i'm not going to be responsible for your car.

[Timmy_B]

No but ppl who have 15" usually dont get camber problems. Oh and i did say thats my opinion..

[aaronng]

If you buy new tyres every 6 months, then you're worse off after the first 12 months. Unless you don't plan to keep the car.

Get correct camber kits of a reputable brand off ebay and save $$$

[JohnL]

No but ppl who have 15" usually dont get camber problems. Oh and i did say thats my opinion..

While I tend to be on your side about the foolishness of huge wheels (and the rubber bands people stretch around them...), you're absolutely wrong about wheel size having any affect whatsoever on camber angles.

[JohnL]

It is possible to adjust camber by 'slotting' the chassis mounting holes in the upper wishbone. You do need to know just how much slotting will be required, which can be determined by knowing the distance between the centres of the balls of the upper and lower ball joints.

Using this method I've corrected unequal camber on my CB7 (previous owner's accident damage I think), and it's worked very well. If you can measure the distance between the upper and lower ball joints (ball centre to ball centre as best as you can estimate the centre locations) and post them, I can do a drawing to figure out how much slotting will be required to make a 0.93° change (as you need).

[Crapdaz]

too much toe out on the front,
too much negative camber on the front.
rear is still not bad but really bad offset from each side for camber and toe.

need camber kit or you will be going through rubbers like no 2moro.
As stated by others, for an EG i would max go a 16" and get a decent dump on it.

[aaronng]

too much toe out on the front,
too much negative camber on the front.
rear is still not bad but really bad offset from each side for camber and toe.


You're reading the initial measurement. The final measurement column on the right shows his toe has been corrected but camber can't be adjusted and is still unequal and out of spec.

[chargeR]

I am usually not an advocate of camber adjustment with limited amounts of lowering but that camber is too uneven. Has the car been crashed before? You should be able to get camber adjustment parts and install them yourself for less than what that shop quoted you. Then take it to a decent alignment workshop that will do whatever settings you desire. If you are concerned about tyre wear run close to zero toe.


No but ppl who have 15" usually dont get camber problems. Oh and i did say thats my opinion..

Suspension geometry doesn't care about your ill informed opinion. Wheel size has no effect on camber.

[IndoStyler]

damn, camber is so uneven...u got more negative camber on the right side....toe looks alright now....best to get camber kit no matter wat size rim u have or will change to in the future

[4age8u]

so camber kit is the way to go? what if i leave it like this? will it eat my tires like crap?

[hotdc2]

yeah it will, i had the same problem on both of my integras. and it's got absolutely nothing to do with wheel size as on one i've got 18s and the other is 15s. the one with 15s is dropped on it's arse so its got realllly bad camber wear, much worse than the 18s. You will go through so many tyres if you don't get it fixed man, will be worth it to just get the camber kit. If you can't afford that much right now, then run with the tyres you've got and save hard. when you get the camber kit installed chuck on some new rubber and you'll be fine.

:thumbsup:

[4age8u]

ok thanks bro,i might just stick to it and get some 2nd hand tires for 70 a pair lol

[4age8u]

07-04-2009, 10:14 AM #2
chargeR
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I recommend you get an alignment. Anything less than -3 shouldn't give you noticably uneven tyre wear. I daily 20,000kms a year on -5.

[4age8u]

^^ so anything less than -3 is ok?

[NSPYRE]

ok first, i've got 17" wheels on my DC2 with buddy club racing spec damper coil-overs. its been lowered by about 3" all around. i change my front tyres every 12 months (do an average of 20,000km in a year) or so and the rears are still fresh so i just rotate them thru.

anyway, my point is, camber doesnt kill ur tyres as much as toe does. so long as ur toe value is okay, u shld be fine. i've been told that in the case of having negative camber, the toe-in value should go higher in order to increase the contact the tyre has with the road. yet to validate this claim..

[JohnL]

My understanding is that the more camber you have, the more wear will be caused by X toe.

However, some alignment specialists increase toe-in in an attempt to decrease inside tread wear with wheel that have substantial neg camber. I'm not really sure if this works.

If, the toe-in causes the ride height to increase when the car is moving forward (which toe-in does do to differing degrees with different suspension designs, or more particularly with suspensions having different roll centre heights), then this will tend to reduce rolling camber slightly, which may slightly alleviate wear on the inner part of the tread. I'm not convinced.

Also, as each toed-in front tyre tries to 'steer' toward the other, this creates a slip angle at each front wheel that tends to 'pull' or push' (depending on how you look at it) the tread slightly inward and 'flatter' onto the road surface. This may also slightly alleviate wear on the inner part of the tread. I'm still not convinced.

[chargeR]

^^ so anything less than -3 is ok?

I wouldn't say that less than -3 is okay, it might still be too much for your use. However anything less than -3ish with toe set near zero, suspension in good condition, and tyres rotated often should make it such that you wont notice any particularly uneven wear.

[VTECMACHINE]

well there is your problem right there..
your running 17"s on an EG and when you changed from factory 14" to 17"s your didn't change your camber kit. thats why ppl have problems when they go from a 14" to a 17"
17" are massive.. I think it looks so much better when ppl run a 15" and 1' to 2' inch drop.. Now that a clean EG, none of these massive wheels shit..
but thats just my opinion......

Don't worry man... I care what you think, and I agree 100%. 17's on EG's are gay. LOL

[tey]

so camber kit is the way to go? what if i leave it like this? will it eat my tires like crap?

yea man it will chew your tyres like mad within 5mnths just jump on ebay find a cheap under $200 front chamber arms, put them in, adjust them until u think wheel looks straighter then get a another wheel alighnment bro i jus done mine done like 3mnths man same size rims & tyres not even one problem wearing even

The rear camber just use spacer or washer to push tyre straight

tey

[4age8u]

ok thanks guys as for 17s to big well i agree but there work emotions so i cant complain...

[Alexx]

^ Maybe if they were real you couldnt complain :zip:. Dont fake the funk man.




I wouldn't say that less than -3 is okay, it might still be too much for your use. However anything less than -3ish with toe set near zero, suspension in good condition, and tyres rotated often should make it such that you wont notice any particularly uneven wear.

Agreed 100%. I run -2.5 daily with no real uneven wear :thumbsup: At moderate levels of camber, the toe setting is much more important when gaining the most life out of your tyres, if that is your aim.

[4age8u]

yeah mate replica thats why I still have my rims lol

Ok thanks for the info guys