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vyets
22-04-2009, 06:26 PM
Hey guys, just got my car re aligned again today so I thought I would make a thread.
Just post up your alignment settings and how you find it and what type of Driving you do.
FRONT:
-2.0° Camber Left
-2.0° Camber Right
6.2° Caster Left
6.2° Caster Right
0 Toe Left 0 Toe Right
REAR:
-2.0° Camber
1.5mm Toe In Right
1.5mm Toe In Left
3.0mm Total Toe
Previously I was running abit more aggressive but I've toned down abit as I got afew more bars and my car doesn't roll as much.
I'm running Falken Azenis RT615 Street Tyres and do mainly street driving with occasional track days. After many adjustments the guys at Centerline Suspension Suggested this alignment setting but I will have to find out how it goes at winton in May. Car is slightly oversteery but I'm fine with that
I'm not worried about tyre wear as previously I was running -2.5° and my tyre wear was perfect. I choose not to run too much toe as I need to preserve my tyres, my car does rack up alot of k's on the street. I believe it is a great setting for street driving even aggressive street driving haha. Wonder what kind of setup the weekend warriors are running :D
JAP-S2K
22-04-2009, 07:47 PM
These are good settings. Mine currently running:
FRONT:
-1.7deg Camber L&R
1mm Toe L&R
REAR:
-3.6deg Camber L&R
0 Toe L&R
I used to run 6mm total toe in L&R on rear, but it was to aggressive on the street and made the car waddle when driving straight. The reason for running silly rear -camber is due to new rims sizes and difficultly with guard clearances. Hopefully sorted soon though.
eriktufa
22-04-2009, 07:49 PM
FRONT:
-2.0° Camber Left
-2.0° Camber Right
8.1° Caster Left
7.9° Caster Right
0 Toe Left 0 Toe Right
REAR:
-3° Camber
3mm Toe In Right
3mm Toe In Left
6.0mm Total Toe
Ferrari
22-04-2009, 08:33 PM
I dont have my settings, but im maxed on front camber. Car is very oversteery but I love that.
vyets
22-04-2009, 08:55 PM
What kind of rims you running now JAP?
I'm running same rims as your old one haha
JAP-S2K
22-04-2009, 09:25 PM
Yeah i sold the ce28n's and bought Gramlight 57 maximum 18x8.5 f&r +45. No worries with these, but trial fitted some 9.5 +38 on rear. So i've got 9.5's on order. It should be o.k with 245's but i want to try and squeeze 265's on the rear. And then get the guards pumped to suit.
vyets
27-04-2009, 05:13 PM
What rims are that JAP can't wait to see em guna look tuffff
Nooone else gets aligments?
JAP-S2K
27-04-2009, 05:43 PM
I'm still sticking with the GramLights 57 Maximum and only changing rear from 18x8.5+45 to 18x9.5+38. I'm going to keep the 8.5's on semi's for track and 9.5's for street and change rear alignment for track days. It's great how nearly everthing is adjustable, it's hard to find someone who understands how to set it up correctly, mine's not right yet. Luckily I have access to a wheel alignment machine and a good mech who knows how to use it. So at the moment it's hit and miss, till i get it right.
markoJEK1
01-05-2009, 01:29 PM
With alignments for everyday driving / casual track you should try and make the fronts FrontToe = 1mm total. (0.5mm each side)
RearToe = 2mm total. (1.0mm each side)
These specs allows the vehicle to slightly track the road, making it easier for driver as well as giving some decent handling when you are out on the track giving it a bash.
Camber for the street -1 degrees on rear each side
-0.5 on front ( if your vehicle has this option )
On the track its a different story obviously, good hefty amount of camber on rear -1.5 - -2 , and upto -1 on front. each side
vyets
01-05-2009, 01:56 PM
0.5 would mean we're running less camber then stock s2000 settings
markoJEK1
01-05-2009, 04:49 PM
dont run it then, I was stating that these are the ideal settings for a daily car, to achieve even wear and prolong tyre life at the same time
h17am
01-05-2009, 06:12 PM
Front:
Camber: -2deg L&R
Toe: 0mm L&R
Rear:
Camber: -3.2deg L&R
Toe: -4mm L&R combined
lzybum
04-05-2009, 03:44 PM
just a question guys,
are you guys running those negative camber settings through the use of a camber kit? (ie; front -2*, rear -3*) or are those setting from stock adjustables? what are the largest negative camber settings can you get from stock adjustables?
if you utilise a camber kit, which brand/kit are u guys using!
cheers.
JAP-S2K
04-05-2009, 04:53 PM
I'm guessing most of us are running these with factory adjustments. Mine has seen as much as 4deg neg on rear. However also understand that ride height can play a part in most variables. I'm currently looking into getting Ikeya formula adjustable control arms throughout. That way theres more room for all types of adjustments. Some do offer camber adjustment through the use of a staggered ball joint, however not sure how effective this is. IMO stick to adjustable arms.
lzybum
07-09-2009, 05:30 PM
FRONT:
-1.8deg Camber L&R
0mm Toe L&R
REAR:
-3.3deg Camber L&R
0 Toe L&R
JMSBND
08-09-2009, 10:40 PM
I am just running UK alignment. I do find above 140 kp/h it starts to really feel like wandering slightly in a straight line though. I am lowered on Eibach pro springs, and 17x8f and 17x9r 225/255 tyres. What do I start playing with to give the car more straight line stability? Any ideas?
UK spec is
Front is 1.5 neg max caster 0 toe
Rear is 2.0 neg caster is 1mm L&R I think?
9large
08-09-2009, 11:28 PM
If you feel you need more straight-line stability, you need to give it more rear toe in. However, if your car is "wandering" you most likely need a wheel alignment.
JMSBND
09-09-2009, 07:57 PM
Wandering...............more like it just doesn't feel planted. I will try more rear toe. The turn in is great though!
FLICK
09-09-2009, 08:31 PM
These were my settings before i went to the circuit, PLEASE DO NOT COPY THIS SPECS YOU WILL KILL YOURSELF.
It just goes to show how off the settting goes after you change knuckle/ ride height and wheels. So make sure you get it all align again after changing any of those.
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/7144/17082009092.jpg
9large
09-09-2009, 09:46 PM
Wandering...............more like it just doesn't feel planted. I will try more rear toe. The turn in is great though!
So, does the car pull to one side? If it doesn't, then wandering probably isn't the best way to describe your symptoms :) What are your tyre pressures? Also, are you talking about 140km/h at the track or on the road? Although there'll be a sensation of lightness, you should feel perfectly fine in your S2000, even at 200km/h.
DC5TYPER
10-09-2009, 07:47 PM
17X9 255/40/17 Non Stag Setup
FRONT:
-2.5 Camber
6 Caster
0 Toe
Rear
-2.5 Camber
0 Toe
JAP-S2K
10-09-2009, 10:11 PM
Used this setting at Oran Park GP, worked well for me:
FRONT:
3.50neg Camber
3mm Toe out L&R
REAR:
3.30neg Camber
No Toe on rear
Not bad for street either, track's the road alittle and doesn't do wonder's for tyres either, CBF changing it back and forth.
JMSBND
11-09-2009, 07:08 PM
So, does the car pull to one side? If it doesn't, then wandering probably isn't the best way to describe your symptoms :) What are your tyre pressures? Also, are you talking about 140km/h at the track or on the road? Although there'll be a sensation of lightness, you should feel perfectly fine in your S2000, even at 200km/h.
I dropped the tyre preassures today from tyre shop 40psi all round to 32 front and 30 rear. It has gained more directional stability but the best way to describe it is that at above 120km/h it feels "vague" when in a straight line. It doesn't feel arrow straight and stable like my old OEM 16" setup.
I know that I need to play with it, but I would like to hear some ideas. It now runs 17x8F and 17x9R +45 all around with 225 45 17 F and 255 40 17 R. I have only been on the road at the moment but compared to the old OEM setup I am just trying to get that high speed inline stability back.
It corners really well, and lowering the tyre preassure really helped smooth out the bumps with high speed cornering.
I run the UK spec alignment, with Eibach pro coils all around - nothing crazy low.
Thanks for the help.:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
9large
11-09-2009, 10:07 PM
Your tyre pressures look much better at 32 and 30 than at 40.
I find that, sometimes, too much toe can make the handling feel "numb", even though in some circumstances increasing toe-in or toe-out can benefit the car's cornering ability or straight-line stability. Were you running the UK alignments on your stock wheels and suspension as well? Without knowing much else about your car, you can try setting your rear camber at -2.5 degrees or more (or whatever you need to fit 255 under your rear arches), front camber at about -2.0, maximise caster, zero toe front and less than 3mm toe-in on the rear (I would suggest zero, and definitely no toe-out). Another thing to note is, pre-2002 S2000 steering was very light, perhaps adding to the "vague" handling; not sure which model you have though.
mcopley
12-09-2009, 08:45 AM
FRONT:
-4 Camber
8 Caster
0 Toe
Rear
-2.5 Camber
0 Toe
6mm total toe in the rear is a factory setting...its the UK setting ,,,helps with the over steer other s2000 sites will confirm this :wave:
jooboo
27-10-2009, 08:41 PM
got an alignment today after fitting new wheels
17x8 +31 225/45
17x9 +37 235/45
front
camber -2.5
individual toe 1.4 L & R (2.8 total)
rear
camber -3
individual toe +5 L & R (10 total)
rears are scrubbing on the rear bar every bump :( help anyone lol
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs003.snc3/11039_168764962273_692592273_3384365_3825031_n.jpg
vyets
27-10-2009, 08:56 PM
Cut the rear bumper :)
lzybum
27-10-2009, 09:14 PM
wow! how does everyone get more than -1.5* camber..i want -2* and less =(
jooboo
27-10-2009, 09:18 PM
a 40 profile tyre should help me with my scrubbing issues?
9large
27-10-2009, 09:59 PM
It looks like you're after looks - your rears tyres are too narrow.
I don't think a 40% profile will help. Additionally, it's probably just a little too off the stock rolling diameter. With those offsets and rim widths, you could try relocating your bumper tab and rolling or flaring your rear guards, if you haven't already. Also, keep an eye on your front tyres - they might smash your front guards, judging on your wheel specifications.
jooboo
27-10-2009, 10:09 PM
yeh guards have been rolled and bumper tab has been relocated...its only scrubbing on the rear bar area guard if that makes sense...if they could roll the rear bumper guard the problem would be solved lol
ludecrs
27-10-2009, 10:33 PM
Also, keep an eye on your front tyres - they might smash your front guards, judging on your wheel specifications.
If rolled, they will be fine. :thumbsup:
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs003.snc3/11039_168764962273_692592273_3384365_3825031_n.jpg
Cars come along great man :thumbsup:
rokkuchan
18-12-2009, 10:22 AM
Can someone recommend settings for the following: (Still waiting for these wheels but wanna be ready when i get them)
Enkei RPF1 17x8+45 and 17x9+45 with (215/45) and (245/40) - playing it safe.
This isnt my daily anymore so tyre wear not an issue so it's just a weekend car and occassional track. I have Monoflex installed and lowered with about 1-2 finger gap left on all corners.
I don't plan to roll the front (215 will clear?) but will roll the rear for some clearance. What camber/toe settings should i need?
CHeers
JAP-S2K
18-12-2009, 10:36 AM
You may need about 3 neg on rear + you'll need to cut of rear bumper tabs and reposition mounting point for rear bar (not a big job). With the front's, i think you might still need to bend up the inner guard tabs, if these catch, it'll destroy your guards. This has happened to me, and i know of other. Also i haven't had a chance to remove the pump, bigger job than i originally thought.
rokkuchan
18-12-2009, 11:02 AM
Oh thanks, no worries about the pump.
Would going -3 affect the car wobbling around in straight line? I'm not too familiar with alignment, still learning...
JAP-S2K
18-12-2009, 11:24 AM
No nat at all, i've been running 3 neg for a while now. Rear toe will cause instablities.
vyets
18-12-2009, 04:49 PM
I'm running -3 on the rear now as well hehe :P
eriktufa
18-12-2009, 10:41 PM
No nat at all, i've been running 3 neg for a while now. Rear toe will cause instablities.
Are you running 0 toe all around? do you find it oversteery?
JAP-S2K
20-12-2009, 12:21 AM
I run a total of 2mm Toe in on rear and 0 toe on front. A little oversteery on cold/normal tyres. But my this is a personal preference of mine. However with some spirited driving, and once the tyres build up some heat, the rear is very stable, and handling becomes neutral.
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