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F20C
23-04-2009, 10:15 AM
Well i was curious i've seen someone doing quite silly things in a s2000 with a mini spool diff.. was wondering if he was apart of the forums? And whats everyones takes on a mini-spool diff? will it last longer etc? I kind of dont know much about them so all info will help =)

vyets
23-04-2009, 01:03 PM
LOL sorry man but where do you get your information from.
Hanging around too much hectik Calis boys. Minispool is a ghetto ass mod and I wouldn't reccomend it at all.
For those who don't know minispool is basically a weilded diff.
You drive an s2000 man not a shitbox take care of it, if you want to upgrade diffs buy a good one, will only set you back around 1.5k for a good one. More if you want better. However they can be abit annoying for just daily driving

revolution
23-04-2009, 01:36 PM
If you want to do burn outs and hectic traffic light drags then you should consider selling your car. Looking at your previous threads, the S2K does not seem like an ideal car for you.

A Holden commowhore R8 is what you need. Produces lots of smoke off the line and will give you an instant wanker status which seems like what you are after.

AusS2000
23-04-2009, 01:49 PM
Why the hell is it called a mini-spool.

Type S Tony
23-04-2009, 01:54 PM
What you need my friend is a full detroit locker diff system with rear ladder bar suspension set up and steel bushes with fully compressed springs, that way youll be able to do hectic burnouts with your mighty 4 cyclinder! oh yeah dont forget about the Nawssss!

dtrang
23-04-2009, 01:58 PM
rep +1

jks lol

INVSBL
23-04-2009, 02:25 PM
s2000 comes factory with an lsd. wat more do u want?

a minispool is just a more 'durable' version of a welded shut dif.
but by durable i mean SHIT.
with a locked dif, ur putting extream tension on all ur driveline components diff back.
complelty pointless on an s2000.
and i presume with the s2000's twitchy handeling, probable EXTREAMLY DANGEROUS!

zco
23-04-2009, 03:44 PM
mini spool diff ftw.. treat your car like its a silvia ! LOL

.::F[L]Y::.
23-04-2009, 03:58 PM
see what happens when the S2000 becomes more affordable to p platers...

you get EPIC FAIL :)

jaeyon
23-04-2009, 04:28 PM
lol is a mini-spool then a locked diff? if so i wouldnt bother. i had a 1.5 way in my old s15 and even that was pretty annoying to drive with on a daily basis.

that said the 1.5way helped keep the car in a straight line when traction was an issue (assuming you have even tyre wear on both sides). a locked diff basically removes any slip in your diff, so the left and right drive wheels spin at exactly the same rate.

i dont think s2ks need em, we dont have the power to require it and for a daily driven car i think its overkill (unless your car is super quick, in which case i woudl upgrade lsd's rather than get it welded).

its a pretty dodgy thing to do

jaeyon
23-04-2009, 04:31 PM
s2000 comes factory with an lsd. wat more do u want?

a minispool is just a more 'durable' version of a welded shut dif.
but by durable i mean SHIT.
with a locked dif, ur putting extream tension on all ur driveline components diff back.
complelty pointless on an s2000.
and i presume with the s2000's twitchy handeling, probable EXTREAMLY DANGEROUS!

i agree with the extra tension part! i had full r33 running gear in my s15 (rear axles, nismo diff etc) and i think the rear axles were already starting to go (car made big power though). when parking and stuff you can really feel the strain on the driveline.

im nto sure if the diff makes the car any more dangerous to drive. the locker makes the car easier to slide and easier to control when sliding. assuming your capable of controlling your car when its sliding id say its safer than the unexpected loss of traction im getting in the s2k

INVSBL
23-04-2009, 04:52 PM
im nto sure if the diff makes the car any more dangerous to drive. the locker makes the car easier to slide and easier to control when sliding. assuming your capable of controlling your car when its sliding id say its safer than the unexpected loss of traction im getting in the s2k

wat i mean by more dangerous, i mean its alot more likly to oversteer.
somethign that an overconfident driver just frankly dosent need.
and somethign that a s2k dosent need lol.
and if u truely are capable of controling ur car, u would be smart enough to go for a 1.5 way lsd.

but thank god their isnt mini spools availbe for s2000, thanks to the non availibilty of open difs.
so this problem of p platers destroying s2000 is kept at a low posibilty.

jaeyon
23-04-2009, 04:58 PM
wat i mean by more dangerous, i mean its alot more likly to oversteer.
somethign that an overconfident driver just frankly dosent need.
and somethign that a s2k dosent need lol.
and if u truely are capable of controling ur car, u would be smart enough to go for a 1.5 way lsd.

but thank god their isnt mini spools availbe for s2000, thanks to the non availibilty of open difs.
so this problem of p platers destroying s2000 is kept at a low posibilty.

lucky! personally i dont see why people want to play around with the s2ks suspension/handling characteristics especially if the car is a streeter, its a very capable car from stock.

its a shame such a well built car is being ruined by people who only want it to show off.

INVSBL
23-04-2009, 08:28 PM
coz of the stupid sex spec scene, stipdly large rims, then put wateva sus gets the gaurd sitting on the rim.

been ruining cars for ever, and thanks to the early model s2k droping price, its hit them.

i got nothing against some1 droping in coilovers, if its tp improve handeling, awesome.
but if ur doing it just to get 2 inchs less ground height, please buy a commo and leave the Honda alone.

if only people had similar taste to u and vyets

I heart the SSS
23-04-2009, 08:45 PM
it's a stupid thing to do, but do what you want.

Don't expect to go skidding everywhere, the s2000 doesn't do skidz.

it does ohshisnappedandhittelehgraphpole

F20C
23-04-2009, 08:51 PM
okay fly and rev, theres no need to be a dick about things, not once did i say i wanted to put a mini-spooled diff on my s2000. all i was asking was information to what they are and maybe why he wanted to put one on his s2000. and infact i have never done a burnout in my s2000. Ok sure maybe abit of wheel spin from abit of over rev at lights but its not like i ever have the urge to go out and sit there and smoke em' up.

and invsble what are you talking about the early model s2000 dropping in price? i bought mine for 35k. Didnt know 01' s2000's at 50,000km's go for 20k. and really not everyone gets a car to have no body roll and what not and make it a track car. so what if someone can afford a nice car and slap it on its balls and put 20inch chromies on it? everyone has different taste to what they want out of a car. I dont have chromies for my s2000 but some cars look decent with them. Some of you really need to lighten up on things like this.

now i know exactly what my mate ment by "i dont take my car to oz honda cruises / meets anymore cause they think its stupid what i've done with my car, anyone with body role is considered a loser"

INVSBL
23-04-2009, 09:10 PM
dude i was bout to post, this stuff isnt aimed at u, u wernt asking bout the spool for urself.

and dropping price, i mean compared to wat they are new. they are 70k cars, u picking up urs for half that is a big drop in most books, and a simple net search will show 3-4 cars in each state going for less the 30k.

and i know people hav dif tastes, but there is dif taste and then there is stupidity.
having any car on its balls will ruin the handeling.
and full face crome is yukk.
unless its a dedicated show pony, then i dont care.

F20C
23-04-2009, 09:15 PM
well most of it here definatly sounds like its directed at me. and i thought you ment dropping from what prices they are at second hand, yes i agree with you in the s2000 dropping i just thought you ment their dropping more or something..

and having a car on its balls makes a car look pretty nice on rims etc.. most people dont care about the handeling.. well i know "heros or muzteks" as some of you would call them, they wont careless about it lol. But as i said, people have different tastes with what they do with their car.

INVSBL
23-04-2009, 09:18 PM
dude u obviosly dont rember who i am, im as woggy as they come, i should hav a dosing vl im so woggy, or muzztec (stupid word).

to me their is dumped, then their is chassie scrapping, and when u do that, ur actually making ur handeling worse then stock, that y i get all pissy bout it.

but ur right, every1 has their opinion, and its their money/car.

F20C
23-04-2009, 09:25 PM
See i like dumping your car but not to the extent of your chassie scrapping looks stupid. and isnt any good for your car. and nah i dont remember who you are lol.. When i had my car "dumped" it wasnt scrapping everything was perfect, and looked pretty sexy. But it wasnt stupid dumpage lol. Well actually it would have abit of a scrape on things like speed humps if i go over it at 25k's + but thats my own fault for not slowing down lol.

INVSBL
23-04-2009, 09:27 PM
i love a car with its gaurds sitting right bove the rubber.

so im guessing ur car is at standard height?

F20C
23-04-2009, 09:31 PM
It is now.. and mine was exactly like that oh the back was just covering the rear rims..

INVSBL
23-04-2009, 09:37 PM
ah k yerp.

SHOGUNOVDDRK
23-04-2009, 09:45 PM
mini spool diff ftw.. treat your car like its a silvia ! LOL

I lol'd


Don't expect to go skidding everywhere, the s2000 doesn't do skidz.

it does ohshisnappedandhittelehgraphpole

*nudge*

Justin, STFU!

I want S2K seats just as much as the next man (and without paying out the ass via Honda)

vyets
23-04-2009, 11:27 PM
I always wonderd I don't know where to post might as well chuck it here.
Isn't "sex spec" meant to make your car look expensive and baller.
Chopping springs defiantly isn't expensive, and neither are chromes? Soo... ?

Some of the comments here are funny shit you guys man.. Don't hate! And I thought my comment might have been "abit" harsh I was about to delete it but DAYM!


coz of the stupid sex spec scene, stipdly large rims, then put wateva sus gets the gaurd sitting on the rim.

been ruining cars for ever, and thanks to the early model s2k droping price, its hit them.

i got nothing against some1 droping in coilovers, if its tp improve handeling, awesome.
but if ur doing it just to get 2 inchs less ground height, please buy a commo and leave the Honda alone.

if only people had similar taste to u and vyets

Thanks man.. but I don't really like my car hahaha. :( Will run new setup after track day if people buy my stuff


F20C I don't go ozhonda cruises either :P I make my own cruise haha

JAP-S2K
23-04-2009, 11:34 PM
Some funny shit is going on here!

INVSBL
24-04-2009, 12:22 AM
I always wonderd I don't know where to post might as well chuck it here.
Isn't "sex spec" meant to make your car look expensive and baller.
Chopping springs defiantly isn't expensive, and neither are chromes? Soo... ?

Some of the comments here are funny shit you guys man.. Don't hate! And I thought my comment might have been "abit" harsh I was about to delete it but DAYM!


if some1 were to cut the springs on an s2k, let alone any car, they deserve to see a pole in the inside fo thier car, IMO 1 of the stupidiest things u can do to a car.

but ur line bout chrome not being sex spec, im preety sure majority of people into sex spec think 20" plus full face chrome is 'baller' (least thats how i percive it in every other club im in). i dont though, i think it just looks like something to cook my pizza in.



Thanks man.. but I don't really like my car hahaha. :( Will run new setup after track day if people buy my stuff

YOUR CAR IS AWESOME! :p
wat can u do to the outside to make it any better :p

hotdc2
24-04-2009, 02:55 AM
mmm 20" pizza
hektik

I don't like the sexspec much either. some cars do it nicely though. not going to hate the whole genre just because the majority do it either.

OMG.JAI xD
24-04-2009, 05:22 AM
Might I add.

If you heard the term mini spool diff from someone. Why not ask THEM what it means.

Instead of ask ozhonda?
People here dont need or will not put nuts n bolts in the diff and weld it.
First of all. Most our cars are fwd, so 100 lock = 100% understeer.
And when it comes to our rear wheel drives. The only 2 that are rear wheel are the s2k and nsx. ( sorry if i missed out a model ). And the rest being 4wd or awd.

For one. S2k diff is already piss weak, with this i mean it cant cope a thrashing.
There is so much aftermaket support for gearbox parts for hondas.

And 2. The nsx. You just dont touch that car at all. And if you do. Dont start using welds, nuts n bolts. Honda already killed themselves taking the weight off the car. Dont put it back on =]

Lastly. Yeh people have their own tastes. And there are one too many jdm'ers on ozhonda.
Personally i dont mind the massive wheels n "high rolla" style. Only if it suits the car.
ie. Civic gl (carby) with 19" and type r sticker AINT high rolla.

Dont wreck a honda.
Some build it for show, straight line or going around corners. What ever it may be. Dont start going down bodgy lane. Do it on a cxi or gli =]

Not aimin it at the OP though. Just tell your mates.
They got money to buy a s2k. Spare 2K for a proper diff.


nuff sed =D

F20C
24-04-2009, 07:09 AM
I asked the person who told me and her didnt know apparently someone told him. lol...

Zilli
24-04-2009, 07:35 AM
Only time you'd consider minispool in a Honda is if you are making 5 times more power than it made from the factory... maybe 10 times more since our cars are so weak... and, only if you are drag racing...

F20C
24-04-2009, 07:54 AM
I see, well he just sits on his and does burnouts lol.

vyets
24-04-2009, 08:01 AM
There are heaps of S2000's around my area with chopped springs or "professionally reset springs" (spring compression) 99% of the S2000's you see around my area are like that unfortunality :(.

20" are actually quite cheap even the alba bvlds which people tell me is the holy grail of bling. The only time I'd rock 20's is if they are iForged rims, and they cost more then my car :( haha.


F20C don't do minispools its lame :P next time people tell you about it and think its cool just say "get a real lsd mate" haha. Oh a question I don't think anyone answered but I'm pretty sure you will know now but it wont make the Diff stronger.

F20C
24-04-2009, 08:27 AM
Lol will do vyets, going to give it to all of them when they say spool it lol. But not once did i ever think about getting one.. i have my own ideas of what diff to fit in my car lol. Probably not very good ideas, BUT if i got a diff from another car i.e an s15, if i change the diff gears to what an s2000 is running stock, is it going to be stronger then a normal s2000 diff?

Lol my 12 spoke lenso rims we're worth $4,700 :( pitty i bought them when i knew no one who owned a tyre shop.. I'm on the good old stockies now though :)

oh and vyets did you end up going that night when i gave you the address? i went the other night was pretty insane i must admit..

vyets
24-04-2009, 09:28 AM
Nah I hate them ones, they all idiots there lol.
4.7k for lensos wtf lol they only lenso's.

Just get a kaaz 1.5way lsd :) S2000 diff is weak.. but not that weak man you're just being paranoid.

F20C
24-04-2009, 09:31 AM
well thats orrite then lol.. well i dont do burnouts i dont do skids, but sometimes i do go for abit of a bust and am pretty harsh on 2nd gear.. massive wear and tear? or not as much as burnouts? will it last? it better lol :@

Zilli
24-04-2009, 10:34 AM
vyets, when you say a minispool will not make your "diff" stronger, it really depends what you classify as a strong "diff"... otherwise drag racers would use LSD's like your recommendation... you will not find a drag car doing less than 10's on the quarter with an LSD...

Anyway, this place is about Honda's... minispool is irrelevant for 99% of people on this forum so there's no point explaining what it is...

F20C
24-04-2009, 10:54 AM
well then it's relevant for 1% of the people on here so we will continue discussing what it is and what their ment for.

INVSBL
24-04-2009, 11:39 AM
hmmm, well a mini spoll is a devise placed in open diffs to make it give constant lock, in turn giving constant and equal 'power' to both drive wheels.

ei illegal and silly for a daily.
if i was u, id look for a 1.5 way lsd if u really want underpower lock, but will also be ok for daily driving.

.::F[L]Y::.
24-04-2009, 02:40 PM
okay fly and rev, theres no need to be a dick about things, not once did i say i wanted to put a mini-spooled diff on my s2000. all i was asking was information to what they are and maybe why he wanted to put one on his s2000. and infact i have never done a burnout in my s2000. Ok sure maybe abit of wheel spin from abit of over rev at lights but its not like i ever have the urge to go out and sit there and smoke em' up.

and invsble what are you talking about the early model s2000 dropping in price? i bought mine for 35k. Didnt know 01' s2000's at 50,000km's go for 20k. and really not everyone gets a car to have no body roll and what not and make it a track car. so what if someone can afford a nice car and slap it on its balls and put 20inch chromies on it? everyone has different taste to what they want out of a car. I dont have chromies for my s2000 but some cars look decent with them. Some of you really need to lighten up on things like this.

now i know exactly what my mate ment by "i dont take my car to oz honda cruises / meets anymore cause they think its stupid what i've done with my car, anyone with body role is considered a loser"

its only the internet....Harden up abit.

newcomers are so touchy :p

Age_S2000
28-04-2009, 11:04 PM
mini spools + wet weather = writen off S2K

DONT DO IT

there for the Quarter mile only not the street

F20C
29-04-2009, 02:47 AM
So i've been told age.. apparently even at low ass revs you just throttle abit and your snapping sideways lol

jaeyon
29-04-2009, 05:07 PM
So i've been told age.. apparently even at low ass revs you just throttle abit and your snapping sideways lol

that makes no sense. the s2k doesnt have low end torque needed to fishy the car. around a corner the car is more predictable (on a circuit type road at least).

but the bottom line is, no you dont want to put one in an s2000. waste of money and you would be destroying a perfectly set up car.

F20C
29-04-2009, 06:07 PM
by low rev's i didnt mean 2-3k lol i was talking about 4.5-5k revs lol. In first gear im sure that will throw you around. Yes it mightnt be high rev's, but i think thats quite low in an s2k considering they rev to 9k.

eg5civic
29-04-2009, 06:21 PM
i saw a skyline at the carwash with a locked diff and he went to do a u turn (at low speed ie under 10kms/h) and you could hear the tyre squealing as they wanted to break loose as their is no slip form wheel to wheel

LSD is the way to go.. locks under hard acceleration/and deceleration depending on what type you get

vyets
29-04-2009, 07:14 PM
i saw a skyline at the carwash with a locked diff and he went to do a u turn (at low speed ie under 10kms/h) and you could hear the tyre squealing as they wanted to break loose as their is no slip form wheel to wheel

LSD is the way to go.. locks under hard acceleration/and deceleration depending on what type you get


That will happen with a 1.5way as well but not as bad. Looks cool anyway :D sounds cool too. You can leave skid marks from just pulling into a parking lot.

eg5civic
29-04-2009, 08:17 PM
That will happen with a 1.5way as well but not as bad. Looks cool anyway :D sounds cool too. You can leave skid marks from just pulling into a parking lot.

YEah you can but this was like barely idling out of there i was like wow try turn a corner in front of cops with that and see how far you get with that...

None the less the tyre screeching was pretty cool

INVSBL
29-04-2009, 08:28 PM
1.5 way lsd im sure is legal.

and u dont need 4k of revs to kick the arse out in a locked dif.

JAP-S2K
29-04-2009, 09:30 PM
YEah you can but this was like barely idling out of there i was like wow try turn a corner in front of cops with that and see how far you get with that...

None the less the tyre screeching was pretty cool

Any clutch pack LSD will do this when new or when there reshimmed or tightened.

JAP-S2K
29-04-2009, 09:39 PM
1.5 way lsd im sure is legal.

and u dont need 4k of revs to kick the arse out in a locked dif.

In actual fact it's would be the same. Having a locked diff in no way makes you break traction easier in a straight line, until you get to a corner. Does everyone realise the S2000 diff is a gear type, and once it hooks up is no different to a locked rear end till you back off. Why do think S2000's flog out inner cv's and break diffs?

INVSBL
29-04-2009, 09:54 PM
In actual fact it's would be the same. Having a locked diff in no way makes you break traction easier in a straight line, until you get to a corner. Does everyone realise the S2000 diff is a gear type, and once it hooks up is no different to a locked rear end till you back off. Why do think S2000's flog out inner cv's and break diffs?

nah i meant like round a corner, weres its already chirping.
one swift kick of the right leg will hav a locker sliding.

JAP-S2K
29-04-2009, 10:06 PM
oh shit yeah.

johnshakroo
02-05-2009, 04:08 AM
So i've been told age.. apparently even at low ass revs you just throttle abit and your snapping sideways lol

whereeee can i get a mini spool from??????

F20C
04-05-2009, 10:01 AM
lol have you read every post in here john? i dont think you want one lol... well i dont think you should get one.