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Well im going to go get my bike licence very soon, i know having a 600 on my l's isnt probably the smartest thing if i get pulled over but, you only have your l's for 3 months.. so im leaning towards a CBR600RR instead of the 250RR.. Can someone give me some info on how much maintanance and what not will cost? common problems? or even a decent other bike.. pref. Honda. but all is appriciated :)
D4rk4n63l
23-04-2009, 09:27 PM
you need to be on LAMS bike until you are on your full license.. so its 15 months minimum, not just 3 months on L
oh well that sucks, why is my mate off his l's after like 4 or so months lol? or is he doing a shifty?
D4rk4n63l
23-04-2009, 09:34 PM
You can have your 'P' after 3 months.. but still restricted to riding LAMS approved bikes
Then after 12 months you can have your full license and go buy the bike you really want :)
well i guess that isnt too bad, and thats the same in every state im assuming?
D4rk4n63l
23-04-2009, 09:44 PM
in NSW at least.. but I assume it would be the same for VIC, I heard rules are changing though.. longer 'P' period or something like that
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=108819
oh ok.. i'll give vicroads a buzz tomorrow find out some info before i get to ahead of myself.
FASN8U
24-04-2009, 04:44 PM
most cbr's are thrashed and rough as guts yusuf, im buyin a 600 this year. but if its ur first bike go for a 250 man
yer well i was going to buy a 250 but my mate said just get a 600 leave it in the garage or something or just dont ride it often untill you get off your l's..
FASN8U
24-04-2009, 07:02 PM
dont ride it......easier said than done lol
agreed lol, dude how long do we have to stay on our l's for in vic?
FASN8U
24-04-2009, 07:21 PM
3 months , then were on our p's for as long as our drivers probationary lasts
omfg are you serious!? thats so ****ed so 4 years of my p's on a bike yay. can i ride 600's or 1000's at least?
D4rk4n63l
24-04-2009, 10:28 PM
NO, P riders are restricted to LAMS approved bike as well
offically gay. oh well buying a 600 anyway i dont care lol.
Twincam16
25-04-2009, 10:45 AM
good luck with insurance
why dont u go for one of these? LAMS approved 400cc and will keep up with a 600 on bends
$9k
http://tcimages.net/DisplayImage.aspx?PD=20443200&S=ISS&wmin=bikepoint
not bad.. what is it? lol.. how do they hang in a straight line against a 600?
FASN8U
25-04-2009, 12:54 PM
lol they dont
D4rk4n63l
25-04-2009, 01:26 PM
I think they are way overpriced for what it is.. even more so than CBR2500RR I think
Twincam16
25-04-2009, 02:31 PM
An RVF400 will eat up any 250cc bike, and its learner legal. To be honest I dont think it should be...
It wont hold a straight line on any 600cc once they climb... but it will lift the front wheels on acceleration in first few gears, you sound like you have only ridden a bike or two in past (or never), so dont get a 600cc, you will likely drop it. 400's are light and dont feel as restricted in movement as most 250's ive been on. Great bike. Its ballsy through midrange. And its more than enough for any provisional rider for years of fun. Spend the dough on a used one with a nice kit (you want the looks) and you wont regret it as they hold value well.
Ill tell you now, if you decide to go 600cc SBK, and try and run from an undercover hwy patrol you are likely going to get caught or killed. Seen it plenty of times.
FASN8U
25-04-2009, 02:56 PM
yer id stay away from a 600 because youve never owned a bike before man
lo0se3r
25-04-2009, 03:16 PM
good luck with insurance
why dont u go for one of these? LAMS approved 400cc and will keep up with a 600 on bends
$9k
http://tcimages.net/DisplayImage.aspx?PD=20443200&S=ISS&wmin=bikepoint
went riding with a few mates about 2 weeks ago to bondi, we all pulled in a petty station me and about 8 other LAMS bikes
a black rvf400 rocks up dressed in a tyga kit and having the exact red bull design on it... i dare say that this is his bike, it was orgasmic. If your stuck on your p's for 3 years something that looks like this is well worth it, prices of LAMS cbrs are only going to rise, you might as well buy something like this, it looks better, sounds better and rides better
FASN8U
25-04-2009, 03:21 PM
still a chicken chaser but lol
nvmee
25-04-2009, 08:16 PM
offically gay. oh well buying a 600 anyway i dont care lol.
and then a hero comes alongggg with the strength to carrry onnnn and u finally see the truth, that a hero lies in uuuu
i love statistics ^^ i major that at uni
99% of statistics arnt correct..
^^ Get what im trying to say?
rodericb
26-04-2009, 01:09 PM
...and 73% of statistics are made up.
You can get yourself into an awful lot of trouble on a 600. Most CBR250's are older than the learners who are actually buying them and are pretty crappy. Is better to get a VTR250, learn to ride and get to Philip Island and overtake 600's around the corners in that 15 months of L/P plates and then get a 600 which you'll actually be able to use.
true, im thinking of getting a cbr250rr. probably alot safer too as i dont have alot of experience.
lookingforboost
26-04-2009, 02:10 PM
go for the 250 and if you get a good one they are quite quick i started on a 250 and went up to a VFR400 mine has mild work done and keeps up with 600s but having said that i am glad i didnt go straight to the 600 or 900 like i was going to do, i would have got caught or dropped it for sure! just get used to riding around go to a few track days and move up when its both legal and your ready.
Yeah probably the smart thing to do. Glad to hear same had the same idea as me but went for the 250 lol. This makes me want the 250.
Twincam16
26-04-2009, 06:54 PM
Good idea... just think about an undercover cop pulling up behind u, running your plates and then doing a random breath test on you, what do you do? Take off and leave them with your details, or stop and get busted...
Ull get done regardless - go for a legal bike
FASN8U
26-04-2009, 07:44 PM
youl get a 110$ dollar fine.
or register it under a fully liscenced drivers name.
or run:).
Careful tom, theres faggots like geenang reading these comments he might have a bitch about running from cops next. anyway enough about complete and utter **** suckers. anyway, yes i will be buying a CBR250RR, untill i get some practice up on it and feel comfortable upgrading. But next bike will be a CBR600RR =]
Gawdam
27-04-2009, 12:00 PM
Considered a Ducati monster 620? Learner legal
Bit more expensive, but can maul a 250 in the straight line or in bends with a good rider.
De-restricted.
Perry
27-04-2009, 12:46 PM
Considered a Ducati monster 620? Learner legal
Bit more expensive, but can maul a 250 in the straight line or in bends with a good rider.
De-restricted.
Are you refer to the new 620 Ducati monster or the old one?
I'm kind of leaning towards looks, not so much power now.. It would be good to have the power there but its a bike im sure its quicker then most cars lol. i'll check out the ducati now and post up what i think.
EDIT:: the monster 620 doesnt look half bad, but i still like the CBR250RR lol.
Gawdam
27-04-2009, 02:36 PM
Are you refer to the new 620 Ducati monster or the old one?
620 Monster. Not the 600.
The 620 is learner legal when restricted I think.
I suppose everyone to their own :p
I'm a big fan of naked bikes, monsters, z750 and 1000. :)
yer i dont like the naked look lol..
FASN8U
27-04-2009, 05:16 PM
you dont like it . you LOVE it lol
haha funny boy tom :P what do you think i should get? i like to hear what friends think lol.
FASN8U
27-04-2009, 06:45 PM
since you got no bike exp , get a cheap n nasty 250 so you wont be shatterd if ya drop it man
ture lol, how embarrassing if you drop it lol
aramiK
29-04-2009, 08:42 PM
I just got my L's, about 3 months ago or so...
I was thinking of jumping straight to an r6 haha ~ suicide ftw.
But I think we will enjoy it more when the right time comes.. 250 is fast enough, I was riding and 40 felt like 80 to me.. and I'm a natural adrenaline junky haha..
Plus, imagine all the new models that will be out by then..
Meh, getting my hands on a 250rr soon grey and black ~ sexy as **** anyways.
Gl with your bike man.
yeah i might get a yellow and black 250rr or, a custom blue lol. But when i get one your comming on a bike cruise with me i got a few mates with their 600's and 1000's lol.
FASN8U
30-04-2009, 01:41 PM
250 is fast enough.
you just havent ridden a bike with real power yet:cool:
aramiK
30-04-2009, 02:30 PM
you just havent ridden a bike with real power yet:cool:
I try to avoid knowing this atm, trying to kill me ain't you fasn8 lol.
yeah man, ride all the way down to Melbourne from Syd and go for a curise haha :p
ROFL didnt know you were from syd :P well bikes are great on petrol, we'll all chip in and make a day of it :P
FASN8U
30-04-2009, 05:22 PM
so ride from syd to melb THEN begin the cruise? lol!
aramiK
01-05-2009, 01:05 AM
I've been to melb once hey, so many ****ing bikes ~ it's awesome.
We don't have half as many here.. all of Melbourne CBD is Gsxr's.. CBRR's... didn't see too many r6's though hey?
Yeah I'll be coming melb alot over the next year.
Why not ride up haha.
haha exactly ride up! yeah nah theres alot of CBRR's, and GSXR's, BUT i've seen many girls riding on r6's which is quite sexy lol.. but yeah i see more r1's then i do r6's lol. I should buy an R'2 :P
aramiK
01-05-2009, 02:13 PM
Ahh big ****ing turn on.. girls on bikes haha shiit..
yeah for sure ~
Crapdaz
28-05-2009, 02:34 PM
Sorry to bring up an old thread.
I am thinking of getting a motorcycles license sometime in the next couple of months.
I want to find out what are a few options for a good beginner bike which isn't punching a hole in my pocket.
As i've read that you guys think that 250's are not worth it due to inflated prices cause of the LAMS sh1t, but the least i've seen for these sort of bikes with decent used mileage are around the $7k mark.
Purpose is to use it for a daily to work and uni then back home once i move out to the west. Travel would be around 45mins to the city or so.
You reckon i should go for a CBR250R or VRF400? Hyosung GT250R? Any others?
Pros/Cons on the bikes you suggest please, year, make/model and price range its approx.
Can you also suggest some good 2nd hand or private sites which have cheaper prices cause i can't seem to find any.
Also how much normally to get it "ON ROAD"?
Your opinions please. Thanks
Darren
FASN8U
28-05-2009, 03:40 PM
cbr seems to be the most "bang for your buck" as a pakage of reliability power and looks . there also easy to find and heaps on the market to.
Crapdaz
28-05-2009, 03:53 PM
cbr seems to be the most "bang for your buck" as a pakage of reliability power and looks . there also easy to find and heaps on the market to.
any sites you can refer me to?
So i've heard they are bang for buck but not having much luck searching hahahaha
i know with cbr250rr looking around online i only can seem to find older models mainly 1989-early 90's models and they are going for $5.5k +.
With hyosung gt250R can get it merely under 5k brand new almost.
FASN8U
28-05-2009, 04:08 PM
try out this forum i use if you want . - http://www.ozsportsbikes.com/
personaly i woodent buy a hyosung AT all even though there cheap as chips , there is a reason for the low cost. consider as ninja zxr? they have a good rep for 250's although personaly 250s are way overpriced in my opinion . goodluck searching!
Crapdaz
28-05-2009, 04:42 PM
try out this forum i use if you want . - http://www.ozsportsbikes.com/
personaly i woodent buy a hyosung AT all even though there cheap as chips , there is a reason for the low cost. consider as ninja zxr? they have a good rep for 250's although personaly 250s are way overpriced in my opinion . goodluck searching!
you reckon i should just jump straight into a 400 then?
thanks for the link and help.
yeh i know, i am not too fond of korean cars either.....and power wise it's sh1t as ....
If it comes down to a 250, i would be considering a CBR250RR and kawasaki ninja 250R.
www.bikesales.com.au VRF400's i've found hard to come across.. and i've heard hyosong are crap, apparently they stuff up easily. Not sure what they ment by it as i didnt ask questions haha. and i was looking at the ninja 250's aswell! their quite sexy havent done any research on them though..
Crapdaz
29-05-2009, 07:43 AM
www.bikesales.com.au (http://www.bikesales.com.au) VRF400's i've found hard to come across.. and i've heard hyosong are crap, apparently they stuff up easily. Not sure what they ment by it as i didnt ask questions haha. and i was looking at the ninja 250's aswell! their quite sexy havent done any research on them though..
yeh i am not too trusting on korean stuff.
maybe in another 20yrs time.
yeh VRF400 are hot but hard to find.
and about booking a training course you need to wait like 2months or so... is that correct?
RoNi_SiZe
29-05-2009, 09:03 AM
LAMs is bit of a joke if you ask me, most cops don't even know and/or care about it from what I've heard.
But then & again, I guess it's only a matter of time till they have a smack down on it.
.::F[L]Y::.
29-05-2009, 11:35 AM
Hyosung bikes fall apart....
CBR250RR are a good bike but take into consideration its roughly a 15yo bike so many out there would have been in accos. Make sure you dont buy a bent one.
Another option is the Kawasaiki Ninja which is about 7-7.5k new, but that thing has a shitty riding position and exhaust note imo...
Twincam16
29-05-2009, 01:39 PM
Y::.;2287411']Another option is the Kawasaiki Ninja which is about 7-7.5k new, but that thing has a shitty riding position and exhaust note imo...
Gutless as well... basically just a gpx250 with new some new fairings (which ive heard cost almost $2k to replace)
On a good note, that bike has been a top seller in Aus for couple years now, so a huge influx of used ones, with low km's and warranty also, at a good price
I think you do have to wait 2 months.. beats waiting to go for your p's now by far.. when i went for my licence i had to wait almost 6 months after i turned 18 due to it being so packed lol. I got lucky one day and called and got in on my birthday which was really lucky lol.. So i guess you could try the same and keep on their back about it so you get an earlier appointment?
car_nut
29-05-2009, 02:27 PM
hyosungs are great!... i bought my GT250R brand new and have not had a single problem!!... good value for money and i put a screamin deamon carbon fibre exhaust on it and the thing sounds AMAZING!!!! u should hear how loud it is now hahaha love it!
Twincam16
29-05-2009, 03:45 PM
I think they rectified a number of problems after the 2005/6 models were screwing up. Most post 2007 Hyosung's should be alright
carnut are you from melbourne? and is your hyosung yellow? cause i've heard a 250 hyosung screaming for blocks it was the loudest thing i've ever heard lol. (bike wise) :P
FASN8U
30-05-2009, 12:47 PM
2007 hyosungs are fine cause there oonly 2 years old . your realy think theyl be fine in 5 + years?
Crapdaz
01-06-2009, 02:25 PM
damn.... too hard to decide and VRF400 are hard to find ffs!
btw is the waiting time for license training still around 2months wait?
FASN8U
01-06-2009, 02:51 PM
i got my liscence test within a week of booking ?
Crapdaz
01-06-2009, 03:05 PM
i got my liscence test within a week of booking ?
okay cool,
well once i get a place then i have to start saving my ass off for the bike and get the license too.
With the price of 250's wouldn't it be better to pick up a Yamaha R6 or 400's or 600s categories?
FASN8U
01-06-2009, 03:34 PM
well if your in melbourne i suggest rider bros at calder park . and yer i agree with the price of a 250 you can just about get nice 600 so id go for that. on the other hand if you havent ridden before know your limits and use abit of comon sense wats ok for you powerwise.
Crapdaz
01-06-2009, 06:42 PM
fk i am not !! :)
tom your a lucky **** lol.. waiting a week!
Crapdaz
02-06-2009, 12:48 PM
How about a suzuki GS500F or GS500 for a starter?
Trying to look for a decent CBR250RR is giving me the sh1tZ :(
tom your a lucky **** lol.. waiting a week!
how long did you wait?
my mate told me it's around 2months for sydney.
TALEB TYRES
02-06-2009, 05:13 PM
just jump online every few hours you'll find something theres always people cancelling.
if your in the area go past a1 road and race, tell Rob i sent ya down he's got plenty of cbr's/ninja's/gsf500's...
Im not sure if you've seen one of our bikes, its a custom white/lime 250 ninja but modified; r6 rear, matte black/lime green lip wheels, gixxer fairings, ZX10 Ffront and so on..
he told me he's building something similar to it and gonna sell it cheap so ask him before its sold!
Or if your after an immaculate zx250(older ninja) (goldframe, white/gold paint, white/gold wheels...) my mate is selling his let me know i'll send you some pics.
FASN8U
02-06-2009, 05:38 PM
tom your a lucky **** lol.. waiting a week!
haha , when ya buying a bike bro? you decided what you want yet
i got over it cause i didnt see my mate with his bike for awhile but i saw him with it again the other day so now im wanting it again haha.. yeah ima go the CBR250RR.. or maybe the 600.. and i was going to wait almost 5 months for my licence.. lol.. so i cancled lol
Twincam16
03-06-2009, 01:02 PM
Dont spend more than $4k on a cbr250rr... you can find an Aus delivered model for that price if you look hard enough. Dont rush it
FASN8U
03-06-2009, 07:56 PM
i got over it cause i didnt see my mate with his bike for awhile but i saw him with it again the other day so now im wanting it again haha.. yeah ima go the CBR250RR.. or maybe the 600.. and i was going to wait almost 5 months for my licence.. lol.. so i cancled lol
so you dont have ur L's yet?
Crapdaz
04-06-2009, 10:47 AM
Also to add on, any good reputable bike shops around Sydney? Who don't try to rip you off as much.
i got over it cause i didnt see my mate with his bike for awhile but i saw him with it again the other day so now im wanting it again haha.. yeah ima go the CBR250RR.. or maybe the 600.. and i was going to wait almost 5 months for my licence.. lol.. so i cancled lol
rofl waste of a booking fee isn't it, haha :p
Dont spend more than $4k on a cbr250rr... you can find an Aus delivered model for that price if you look hard enough. Dont rush it
yeh sucks when you want it fast and instantly.
I am either thinking of CBR250RR, GSF500 or ninja 250R.
so you dont have ur L's yet?
It's a race between me and F20C to get the licence, i have to get property first though which sucks..... :thumbdwn:
Twincam16
04-06-2009, 03:39 PM
I am either thinking of CBR250RR, GSF500 or ninja 250R.
All of them are good starter bike. Just remember the fairings for the Suzuki & Kawa are expensive though, so take extra care.
rofl a race you say? i will win this race around the world and we will meet in times sqaure. KGO. lol.. and yes i cancled and wasted booking fee's lol.. i doubt ill get mine anytime soon.. i plan on getting them in the middle of this summer or end of this summer.. unless i get bored ill get them after winter so i can ride more often..
Crapdaz
04-06-2009, 03:50 PM
All of them are good starter bike. Just remember the fairings for the Suzuki & Kawa are expensive though, so take extra care.
Don't worry i will strip the fairings off.
I am tempted to get the GSF500 but i am worried it might be too much to handle since i am a noobcake. :p
And reviews on bikes are so hit and miss cause everyone's got their own opinion.
any knowledge on the rev limit on the Kaw 250R and gs500f? I was going to get the GT250R but heard that it can't rev for sh1t.
rofl a race you say? i will win this race around the world and we will meet in times sqaure. KGO. lol.. and yes i cancled and wasted booking fee's lol.. i doubt ill get mine anytime soon.. i plan on getting them in the middle of this summer or end of this summer.. unless i get bored ill get them after winter so i can ride more often..
yeh, i am planning on using it as a daily just to get around more easily since afterwork i go uni, gives me an easier route to move and also parking would be free and directly outside uni.
Times square it is.... :thumbsup:
FASN8U
04-06-2009, 05:03 PM
LOL your both lazy shits! L's NOW so ur on ur P's in summer!!!!
dont think just do it
Twincam16
04-06-2009, 05:52 PM
Don't worry i will strip the fairings off.
I am tempted to get the GSF500 but i am worried it might be too much to handle since i am a noobcake. :p
Nah GS500F should be alright, its weight might be a concern for the smaller noobs compared to some other bikes as its around 40kilos heavier than a CBR250. Good torque though
any knowledge on the rev limit on the Kaw 250R and gs500f? I was going to get the GT250R but heard that it can't rev for sh1t.
Well you wont get either one of those for the revs, besides revving to get anywhere is pointless if you are using it everyday in traffic. Kaw 250r will rev to 13/14k and the Gs500 with its bigger motor will rev to around 11k. Both should be friendly on street.
lol tom easier said then done!
Crapdaz
05-06-2009, 08:12 AM
LOL your both lazy shits! L's NOW so ur on ur P's in summer!!!!
dont think just do it
rofl will matie as soon as i have property in my hands and i will go all out to save my ass off.... :)
Nah GS500F should be alright, its weight might be a concern for the smaller noobs compared to some other bikes as its around 40kilos heavier than a CBR250. Good torque though
Well you wont get either one of those for the revs, besides revving to get anywhere is pointless if you are using it everyday in traffic. Kaw 250r will rev to 13/14k and the Gs500 with its bigger motor will rev to around 11k. Both should be friendly on street.
yeh, so tempted for the GS500f but will see how it goes when i sit on one to get the feel of it and see which one is more suitable for my bodyshape.
I'm only 5'7-8 and around 70kg mark.
crapdaz look at some ninja's omg sexy bikes.. i seen a nice green one the other night so i started looking them up on bikesales.com.au sexy bike if you ask me.
^^ you boys better get your bikes soon. i want a ozhonda bike cruise lol. who cares about hondas and cars aaaahaha.
oh and yeah riding up to philip island for motoGP would be sick thats way ahead.
yeah that would be pretty awsome EK4R.. have you been on any bike cruises with the bikes that go to lygon st? theres like 100 of them lol..
lol na. only been with my friends a few times up kinglake, mt dan, hooning around chinatown, and blvd. need more ppl. i want to ride up to great ocean rd
LOL i tried to keep up with 2 guys on a black honda and a white honda CBR at the blvd.
what bike you riding again f20c? i remember trying to keep up on my green ninja couple of months back hahaha. owned . ride safe at your own spd y0
lol....u should be able to keep up with them on blvd then
Twincam16
08-06-2009, 05:08 PM
Keep on topic guys before I whip my magic stick out
well this is part on topic, the performance of those cb600RR's has made me want one cause i couldnt keep up in my car.
Twincam16
08-06-2009, 10:26 PM
well this is part on topic, the performance of those cb600RR's has made me want one cause i couldnt keep up in my car.
Well its not directly relating to either cbr bike's or getting a license, its just chatting, this thread has been good, so lets keep it on topic. If you want to discuss meetups or licenses keep it to pm or the allocated meet (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=114191) thread
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