DC5 non r/s vs Celica 7th Gen

[strider]

Did a quick search but nothing came up, sorry for repost if it's a repost

but..

comparing the 7th gen celica and the dc5 non r/s

which one is better in terms of...

1. handling
2. power
3. cost to run (maintainence, parts etc)
4. aftermarket support

[Type S Tony]

1. Honda
2. Honda
3.toyota
4. Pretty Even

[strider]

the celica has 140kw, and the poverty pack integra have...110kw?

is that true?

[Type S Tony]

www.google.com.au

[strider]

CELICA 2002 ZR MANUAL...

6 speed manual
1086KG Tare Mass (weight)
Engine size: 1796cc
CAM: DOHC with VVT & Lift
Compression Ratio: 11.5
Power: 140kw @ 7600RPM
Torque: 180nm @ 6800RPM

Standard Equipment
ABS
SRS Airbags (Includes side)
EBD (Electronic Brake Force Distribution)
Engine Immobiliser

=====================================

INTEGRA 2002 MANUAL... (NOT TYPE R/S)

5 speed manual
1160 Tare Mass
Engine size: 1998cc
CAM: DOHC with VVT
Compression Ratio: 9.8
Power: 118kw @ 6500RPM
Torque: 191nm @ 4000RPM

Standard Equipment
ABS
Dual Airbags
Engine Immobiliser


Celica > DC5 poverty pack in terms of power

nyone driven both and can compare?

[Type S Tony]

ide still opt for the DC-5, would probably have a better re-sale value & the toyota looks like a lizard!

[[Type_R]]

not a big fan of the toyota.. and yes, Honda DC5R/S both keep their value. 02 DC5R still selling around 25-30k

[Speeder]

1. Toyota
2. Toyota
3. Toyota
4. Both

I've never driven the DC5, but I've driven the 7th Gen Celica SX and gotta say its a pretty nice machine, 6 speed as well if i remembered correctly. Responsive, reliable, and can be driven daily without fuss.

If you are choosing between the DC5 std model or the 7th gen Celica, I'd go the Celica if you are after performance.

[strider]

im asking about non-type r/s -_-

tony good point about the resale value.

Want to ask - on the DC5 non R can the engine parts be changed to the Type R standard without a replacement?

and the DC5 is 5 gears, while the DC5r is 6 yeah?

[90LAN]

toyota is the better car in every way
toyota over hondas hands down
a corolla is faster than a dc5

[Speeder]

im asking about non-type r/s -_-

tony good point about the resale value.

Want to ask - on the DC5 non R can the engine parts be changed to the Type R standard without a replacement?

and the DC5 is 5 gears, while the DC5r is 6 yeah?

Yes DC5R has 6spd.
If you are going to do that, then you may as well work little bit harder and get the R type, be easier in the long run...

[strider]

1. Toyota
2. Toyota
3. Toyota
4. Both

I've never driven the DC5, but I've driven the 7th Gen Celica SX and gotta say its a pretty nice machine, 6 speed as well if i remembered correctly. Responsive, reliable, and can be driven daily without fuss.

If you are choosing between the DC5 std model or the 7th gen Celica, I'd go the Celica if you are after performance.

thanks for that
Celicas are so cheap now thats y im interested

[strider]

yeah ofcoz

my budget doesnt stretch to the $25k ish for the type R/S sighhh

im looking at around $15k

[[Type_R]]

yeah ofcoz

my budget doesnt stretch to the $25k ish for the type R/S sighhh

im looking at around $15k


yeah dude, in that case - $15k (give or take) for a 6sp man celica 140kws at the fly. Go for it.

[[NAV]]

celica = win
for the power and features it has.. its worth it..

[strider]

NAV i like ur avator

mm yeah thanks, if only i have another $10k lying around i can go DC5r

[davoh]

honestly....me from a 5th gen celica to a dc5....

id tell u dc5 any day.....honestly its more of a car that a guy drives....

+1 on resale value......and easier sale any time

[IZY-10]

i hate that celica but sorry to say the celica is better in every aspect hands down compared to the base dc5

[Harris]

Celica.

[strider]

lotsa celica loving.

[geeang]

For $15k, the 7th Gen Celica just has so many advantages over the Base DC5.

[dreamshifter]

Too many biased opinions...as expected on ozhonda =P

I own a base model DC5 but had driving lessons in a celica.

The celica is much more fun to drive because of its added power "lift".
The base model DC5 just has a fuel saving vtec that kicks in at 2200rpm, it just a 'sporty looking' car.

Both would have similar aftermarket support but the celica would be a whole lot cheaper to maintain (part prices). + many engine mods are interchangeable with the corolla sportivo.

DC5R/S >> Celica > DC5base

[integraz]

Handling would be near the same.

Power is Celica for sure, better than the base dc5.

Aftermarket would be similar if not a tad more for the dc5, due to the fact you can interchange stuff with the type R/S.
But parts for the the base dc5 ONLY, is less than the celica.

Celica interior is crud.

IMO get the celica + power FC you would be pretty even with stock dc5 R/S.

The problem with the celica engine from factory is that it falls of the "vtec" band, but the power FC rectifies this.

I have a base dc5, so it's not worth getting it, either celica, or go straight to ITR/S

[Zilli]

if you are stuck to this budget with this choice of car then you really need to consider what you want the car for...

From a drivetrain standpoint i would say the Celica shits all over the base DC5... the base wasnt made for performance... it only just puts out a little bit more than a Corolla...Sure the build is probably a bit nicer, only a little bit, we are talking about Toyota here... resale is probably better... but who give a ****? are you 50?

I'd got the celica in this sintance, even though the gear ratio's are all ****ed up and it has no LSD...

[bootyliscious]

honda dc5 because i love honda's

Can't afford it? get a dc2R cant go wrong.

[strider]

haha thanks for all the help.

mmm deciding between 7th gen and dc5 coz i like those cars. Budget is tight unfortunately =(

if i do end up going celica, will ozhonda members still accept me? or will i be outcasted?

[TypeR Lover]

Too many biased opinions...as expected on ozhonda =P

DC5R/S >> Celica > DC5base

I agree with dreamshifter on this one.

[EK4R]

i had both in the family. celica isnt a too bad of a car. if its non type r/s vs celica. celica wins hands down. however type R shits over it, has lsd, better chassis, recaros etc.

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/2113/celica08.jpg

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/3669/celica06.jpg

[Timmy_B]

who wants to own a celica though? i hate em.. worst looking cars.

[strider]

nice pics
yeah ofcoz Type R > the celica
but i guess the tribe has spoken

[bootyliscious]

Talking to a girl...Which one is better? you tell me

Girl: what do you drive?
Strider: Toyota CELICA ZR!! :D
Girl: ohk*yawn**sigh*


Girl:what do you drive?
Strider:DC5 Integra baby, come let me show you how it handles
Girl:oh wow, I never heard of it, can i see it??
Strider:Yeah baby, lets go for a drive

Proven survey taken by many Celica drives and integra drivers.

Results may vary depending on individuals looks.
:P

[[Type_R]]

Talking to a girl...Which one is better? you tell me

Girl: what do you drive?
Strider: Toyota CELICA ZR!! :D
Girl: ohk*yawn**sigh*


Girl:what do you drive?
Strider:DC5 Integra baby, come let me show you how it handles
Girl:oh wow, I never heard of it, can i see it??
Strider:Yeah baby, lets go for a drive

Proven survey taken by many Celica drives and integra drivers.

Results may vary depending on individuals looks.
:P


oh i see

[dsp26]

1. handling
2. power
3. cost to run (maintainence, parts etc)
4. aftermarket support

nyone driven both and can compare?

Driven both and this is the verdict versus a standard 118kw spec DC5

1. Celica/Corolla Sportivo
2. Celica/Corolla Sportivo
3. Celica/Corolla Sportivo. Dealership service is cheap and thorough. And this is comparing an invoice/list for both cars at similar KM intervals.
4. Honda. This is a good point... you mod the Celica/Corolla beyond I/H/E


But I do agree, I find the celica shape a bit odd... why not the corolla sportivo hatchback?

[KaZe86]

well i have mates with both those cars and i also used to have a corolla sportivo

1. Celica/Corolla Sportivo
2. Celica/Corolla Sportivo
3. Celica/Corolla Sportivo
4. Honda for celica there are a few mods out there but not so much for the sportivo


to those people that say the celica is ugly i dont think so i reckon its way hotter then the dc5 base any how here are a few pics of my mates old celica and my old sportivo if that helps :thumbsup:

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j44/KaZe1_2006/5.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j44/KaZe1_2006/4.jpg

my 2 cents

Steven.

[Q_ball]

1. Honda
2. Honda
3.toyota
4. Pretty Even
You may want to revise what you've just posted there.


nyone driven both and can compare?
I have driven both,
Celica hands down if you're simply looking at the base model Integras.
Personally i find that the 6 spd box on the SX/ZR to be a tad too notchy when compared to the Integra's, but aside from that its a very nice car to drive.

[bootyliscious]

OP why dont you go for the lux dc5?

here is a review,
http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=8952

[strider]

Talking to a girl...Which one is better? you tell me

Girl: what do you drive?
Strider: Toyota CELICA ZR!! :D
Girl: ohk*yawn**sigh*


Girl:what do you drive?
Strider:DC5 Integra baby, come let me show you how it handles
Girl:oh wow, I never heard of it, can i see it??
Strider:Yeah baby, lets go for a drive

Proven survey taken by many Celica drives and integra drivers.

Results may vary depending on individuals looks.
:P

lol

the convo would go more like this...

girl: what do you drive?
Strider: I drive a ...
girl: you know what it was nice meeting you *moves on to the next guy*
Strider: ...sigh

yeah i really like the DC5s but i dont have the money =( thats y im asking about the celica compared with the base dc5 to see if i'll be getting more bang for my buck

[strider]

thanks everyone for the replies, appreciate it :)

[dsp26]

lol
yeah i really like the DC5s but i dont have the money =( thats y im asking about the celica compared with the base dc5 to see if i'll be getting more bang for my buck

you won't the DC5 is nothing like the DC5R/S

It truly is an econobox package in a sporty chassis as previously mentioned. The sad thing is it's the epiphany of rice and it came like that from factory... all show and no go in any sense of sports performance.

A standard DC5 is exactly what the ST184(gen5)/ST204(gen6) Celica's are... an econo package in a sports chassis with nothing sporty... only Toyota was smart enough to have thought of it and got over it a decade ago.

[EK4R]

well i have mates with both those cars and i also used to have a corolla sportivo

1. Celica/Corolla Sportivo
2. Celica/Corolla Sportivo
3. Celica/Corolla Sportivo
4. Honda for celica there are a few mods out there but not so much for the sportivo


to those people that say the celica is ugly i dont think so i reckon its way hotter then the dc5 base any how here are a few pics of my mates old celica and my old sportivo if that helps :thumbsup:

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j44/KaZe1_2006/5.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j44/KaZe1_2006/4.jpg

my 2 cents

Steven.



hahah its funny how both of u got converetd into honda boys now

vyets celica was pretty nice.

[shitbox]

my opinion is get an atts prelude instead can pick one up <$1500 and is better then celica or base integra but if u must choose between just the 2 id go the celica better package for price

[KaZe86]

hahah its funny how both of u got converetd into honda boys now

vyets celica was pretty nice.

lols yeah the darkside is strong!! lols :thumbsup:

[detasemen88]

Did a quick search but nothing came up, sorry for repost if it's a repost

but..

comparing the 7th gen celica and the dc5 non r/s

which one is better in terms of...

1. handling
2. power
3. cost to run (maintainence, parts etc)
4. aftermarket support

Well... I have both the DC5 R and the ZZT231 Celica

but coparing the base DC5 with the Celica.
1. Handling- Celica Win- comes with Super Strut suspension right?
2. Power- Celica has 190 hp, compared to base DC5 of 160 hp
3. Cost to Run- DC5 wins
4. Aftermarket Support- Honda wins....
5. Dont forget looks..... Celica win the look

[detasemen88]

if i had to choose between the base DC5 and the Celica, i would choose Celica.

but between my DC5 R and my Celica, i love my DC5 R more (since it is newer, haha)

[strider]

i see there's a celica in ur avatar lol

ahh so the honda is cheaper to run? how so in ur opinion?

[detasemen88]

i see there's a celica in ur avatar lol

ahh so the honda is cheaper to run? how so in ur opinion?

i have had the Celica for 5 years now, while the DC5 R for about 2 months. both have its pluses and minuses. Honda is more popular in Indonesia compared to Toyota (rank 1 and 2), and parts for HONDA in here is cheaper (though marginal), and i was told (but yet to be proven) that HONDA engine are built to last more than Toyota's.

well my Celica has 85,000km on the odo (it was year 2000 celica), and during my ownership nothing serious happened. the biggest part i need was probably to replace the intake camshaft, which has had scrathes on the cam lobes, which make the engine a bit noise at certain RPM.

The DC5 R only has 18,000km on the odo, and the engine is still very very smooth.

I believe the Celica in Aussie comes in SX and ZR, but the difference is only cosmetic, they have the same 190 2ZZ-GE engine. if you want the celi, get the manual 6 speed, probable year 2000-2001, cos the 2002 comes with drive-by-wire, and lower redline (7,800RPM compared to 8,200 RPM for the 2000-2001).

comapring the I-VTEC and the LIFT is a different world. once hit 5,800 RPM on the DC5 R, the I VTEC push the DC5 hard until about 8000 rpm or so. but I think the LIFT on the CELICA push HARDER than the I VTEC, the engine sounds much more beautiful, and the car runs like it is on drugs ;)

but to be sure, just test drive both cars and see which one you like.
the have one thing in common: both MUST BE pushed/ Revved hard to be enjoyed ;)

[strider]

lol
thanks for that

SX doesn't come with ABS (its an option). thats what i'm worried about, ABS, is it worth the extra $2000ish for the ZR?

[EK4R]

there are a lot more to the ZR than the abs for that extra 2k

fog lights, 6cd stack, sunroof, and others? cant remember

[detasemen88]

get the used one with TRD action package (called SPORTIVO in Oz), you wont regret it. the TRD kit makes the car look even sharper.

I used to have TRD kit, but i changed to TRIAL kit (but keep the TRD rear wing, which is nice)...

so choosing between the base DC5 with Celica, i would go with the Celica, but that's me.... some people like the DC5 styling better (which is more conservative), compared to the more radical look of the Celica.

inside, sitting on DC5 is like sitting on a sedan, while sitting on the celica, it is very low slung seating position, closer to the ground. visibility to the front in celica is a minus, the long bonnet and the low seating position make it hard to see clearly through the front windscreen.

but surely chicks like the celica better, hahahaha.... surely it will turn more heads....

[bootyliscious]

but surely chicks like the celica better, hahahaha.... surely it will turn more heads....

Well i like the honda better :) but its up to the buyer at the end of the day :)

[EK4R]

oo u b suprised. had a girl coming to buy my celica with trd. and ended up askin if my dc5 was for sale cos it was hotter ;P (pic on the page bfore)

[detasemen88]

hahaha..... after all... it all depends on individual taste.... at the moment I like my DC5R, since it is newer, and the celica is just sitting on the garage dusting :P

[detasemen88]

Well i like the honda better :) but its up to the buyer at the end of the day :)

you got a hot ride.... 00 NSX? there is only 2-3 NSX's here in Jakarta.... post some pics :thumbsup:

[detasemen88]

oo u b suprised. had a girl coming to buy my celica with trd. and ended up askin if my dc5 was for sale cos it was hotter ;P (pic on the page bfore)

nice Celi and Dc5 mate!!! did you get rid of both???

[EG52NV]

lol this same thread appeared on ozcelica.com

I would pick a DC2R over the ZR celica

but I would certainly pick the ZR Celica over a base DC5

But why would anyone want a sports car without projector headlights?

[strider]

lol this same thread appeared on ozcelica.com

I would pick a DC2R over the ZR celica

but I would certainly pick the ZR Celica over a base DC5

But why would anyone want a sports car without projector headlights?

insurance company won't insure a DC2r =S

[strider]

Well i like the honda better :) but its up to the buyer at the end of the day :)

but hopefully its the driver, not the car, that grabs ur attention right?

[bootyliscious]

but hopefully its the driver, not the car, that grabs ur attention right?

I think it's 40% car and 60% driver for me, cos if the driver looks good, i prob wont notice if i dont like the car.

I hope your not compensating your looks by getting a celica, cos it wont work on me :P

[strider]

I think it's 40&#37; car and 60% driver for me, cos if the driver looks good, i prob wont notice if i dont like the car.

I hope your not compensating your looks by getting a celica, cos it wont work on me :P

haha

well what if i got the dc5? will that work? even if i look like a monkey?

[detasemen88]

hahahahahaha...... pretty right.....

well get both the DC5 and the CELICA, then you would be satisfied

[strider]

hahaha
the combined amount, wouldnt i get something better??

[bootyliscious]

hahaha
the combined amount, wouldnt i get something better??

an NSX maybe? :P

[strider]

an NSX maybe? :P

haha damn i would love an nsx... maybe i can custom build a body kit for the celica to make it look like an nsx....

[detasemen88]

that's right, combining my CELICA and DC5 R, I could get an NSX, but then parts are very difficult to get in here, where sports car or sports compacts are rare....

I could get a Subaru STi 2006 model as well.... but I love DC5 and Celica....

Why not have 2 cars instead of one?? but if NSX's parts are easy to get, i would think twice of getting that car, and mod it to be NSX-R.....

[strider]

y not have 2 cars instead of one?

sure, i'll get 2 hyundai excels. that'd be about right eh?

[detasemen88]

haha then would will be evicted from this forum...:p:p:p:p

[EK4R]

nice Celi and Dc5 mate!!! did you get rid of both???

got rid of the celica. still got the dc5. bought a yamaha r6 instead hehe ^^

[shitbox]

car's dont get u laid... full stop. if ur buying to try and get girls ur wasting ur time and money.

[aaronng]

haha then would will be evicted from this forum...:p:p:p:p

Nah, he won't be evicted. He can even post up his hotted up Excel photos! :wave:

[dsp26]

car's dont get u laid... full stop. if ur buying to try and get girls ur wasting ur time and money.

lol.

it works on import cars when your young. young slutty girls get attracted especially to the bling which is why 'sex spec' works... and why 'jdm' only works on jdm bitches

but when you get older, your expensive luxury or sports cars still get you laid. why? because it shows your wealthy and there are a certain type of hot girls that will go for this security.

look at all the old or average looking men dating gorgeous women. it's a fact of life... money = penis extension.

[strider]

Sad, sad fact

but too true

no money = no girl

i need a job now

[Zinyo]

Lol....

lol.

It works on import cars when your young. Young slutty girls get attracted especially to the bling which is why 'sex spec' works... And why 'jdm' only works on jdm bitches

but when you get older, your expensive luxury or sports cars still get you laid. Why? Because it shows your wealthy and there are a certain type of hot girls that will go for this security.

Look at all the old or average looking men dating gorgeous women. It's a fact of life... Money = penis extension.

[shitbox]

there is a big difference between an expensive car and being wealthy. a mate of mine has an immaculate r32 gtr and another wrx sti ive been through alot of cars most old and crappy. i pull 10x the roots they do simply because while they have expensive and "flashy cars" they never have the money to go out on the weekend because all there cash is tied up in there cars and cant afford to go to the clubs/pubs/ concerts etc where ur best chances of meeting one are. if mummy and daddy buys you cars and u get plenty of pocket money then sure have a flash car but its no good having a flash car when u cant even take a girl to the movies cause u gotta pay ur insurance and loans. having said all that im not saying there is any thing wrong with owning a nice car,but i wouldnt spend 15,000+ to potentialy pick up some skank in it. especially if u got a face like a bucket full of smashed crabs ... for eg.15,000 will get ruffly a brothel trip per day for 2 1/2 years!!! much better bang for ur buck

[detasemen88]

Nah, he won't be evicted. He can even post up his hotted up Excel photos! :wave:

he might be getting the GENESIS COUPE mate :D:D:D

[detasemen88]

yeah what SHITBOX says is right, hahahahahahhahahahahahaha

[strider]

there is a big difference between an expensive car and being wealthy. a mate of mine has an immaculate r32 gtr and another wrx sti ive been through alot of cars most old and crappy. i pull 10x the roots they do simply because while they have expensive and "flashy cars" they never have the money to go out on the weekend because all there cash is tied up in there cars and cant afford to go to the clubs/pubs/ concerts etc where ur best chances of meeting one are. if mummy and daddy buys you cars and u get plenty of pocket money then sure have a flash car but its no good having a flash car when u cant even take a girl to the movies cause u gotta pay ur insurance and loans. having said all that im not saying there is any thing wrong with owning a nice car,but i wouldnt spend 15,000+ to potentialy pick up some skank in it. especially if u got a face like a bucket full of smashed crabs ... for eg.15,000 will get ruffly a brothel trip per day for 2 1/2 years!!! much better bang for ur buck

lol

if i need a car to pick up i need to jump off a bridge. but yes u make some good points :thumbsup:

[bootyliscious]

there is a big difference between an expensive car and being wealthy. a mate of mine has an immaculate r32 gtr and another wrx sti ive been through alot of cars most old and crappy. i pull 10x the roots they do simply because while they have expensive and "flashy cars" they never have the money to go out on the weekend because all there cash is tied up in there cars and cant afford to go to the clubs/pubs/ concerts etc where ur best chances of meeting one are. if mummy and daddy buys you cars and u get plenty of pocket money then sure have a flash car but its no good having a flash car when u cant even take a girl to the movies cause u gotta pay ur insurance and loans. having said all that im not saying there is any thing wrong with owning a nice car,but i wouldnt spend 15,000+ to potentialy pick up some skank in it. especially if u got a face like a bucket full of smashed crabs ... for eg.15,000 will get ruffly a brothel trip per day for 2 1/2 years!!! much better bang for ur buck

says the guy with a 3 door civic 89 model! HA

[shitbox]

says the guy with a 3 door civic 89 model! HA

you got me there.. Guess i should have made up that i have an nsx huh? damn ill have to make a new profile maybe i might pose as a girl next time to...:eek:

[Timmy_B]

there is a big difference between an expensive car and being wealthy. a mate of mine has an immaculate r32 gtr and another wrx sti ive been through alot of cars most old and crappy. i pull 10x the roots they do simply because while they have expensive and "flashy cars" they never have the money to go out on the weekend because all there cash is tied up in there cars and cant afford to go to the clubs/pubs/ concerts etc where ur best chances of meeting one are. if mummy and daddy buys you cars and u get plenty of pocket money then sure have a flash car but its no good having a flash car when u cant even take a girl to the movies cause u gotta pay ur insurance and loans. having said all that im not saying there is any thing wrong with owning a nice car,but i wouldnt spend 15,000+ to potentialy pick up some skank in it. especially if u got a face like a bucket full of smashed crabs ... for eg.15,000 will get ruffly a brothel trip per day for 2 1/2 years!!! much better bang for ur buck

DUDE! thats so not true, check this out...

I recently bought a DC5 and it pulls chicks..
Last night a pick up this girl that i had a thing with once.. anyway picked her up from her place and as soon as she saw it she pretty much was all over me.. she was like "OH SHIT! what kind of car is that, i have never seen one before"
anyway we got in, drove round, i pulled some VTEC, she thought it was the best thing ever and she was asking questions about the car. she was actually interested..
So i didn't have to spend money on going to clubs and pubs, we spent the night driving round and overlooking the water in my DC5!
oh and the best thing, well i wont kiss and tell. hahah. :p

[drsilliez]

DUDE! thats so not true, check this out...

I recently bought a DC5 and it pulls chicks..
Last night a pick up this girl that i had a thing with once.. anyway picked her up from her place and as soon as she saw it she pretty much was all over me.. she was like "OH SHIT! what kind of car is that, i have never seen one before"
anyway we got in, drove round, i pulled some VTEC, she thought it was the best thing ever and she was asking questions about the car. she was actually interested..
So i didn't have to spend money on going to clubs and pubs, we spent the night driving round and overlooking the water in my DC5!
oh and the best thing, well i wont kiss and tell. hahah. :p

if u need a car to pick up chicks, there's something wrong with you or ur damn ugly...

responding to OP qn, 7th gen celica > base DC5

[Timmy_B]

if u need a car to pick up chicks, there's something wrong with you or ur damn ugly...

responding to OP qn, 7th gen celica > base DC5

well i did say a girl that i had a thing with once.. so i have picked her up without the DC5. just incase you didn't read that bit.

[will13]

HAHAHA TIMMY U CHAMPION LOL

but on a more serious note.

only softcocks use their cars to pick up lol

[Timmy_B]

HAHAHA TIMMY U CHAMPION LOL

but on a more serious note.

only softcocks use their cars to pick up lol

hahaha yeah will, it was good times.. hahaha i should bring her along next time (car sluts) hahaha NO! shes far from that. :p

[tinkz1]

some ppls replies are very biased.

I've owned a Toyota Celica 7th Gen Celica and i can compare it to my gfs DC5R.

1) Toyota
2) Toyota - Celica has VTTL i not VVT i which is in normal corollas and camrys
3) Equal Toyota / Honda
4) Definately Honda

[dsp26]

there is a big difference between an expensive car and being wealthy. a mate of mine has an immaculate r32 gtr and another wrx sti ive been through alot of cars most old and crappy. i pull 10x the roots they do simply because while they have expensive and "flashy cars" they never have the money to go out on the weekend because all there cash is tied up in there cars and cant afford to go to the clubs/pubs/ concerts etc where ur best chances of meeting one are. if mummy and daddy buys you cars and u get plenty of pocket money then sure have a flash car but its no good having a flash car when u cant even take a girl to the movies cause u gotta pay ur insurance and loans. having said all that im not saying there is any thing wrong with owning a nice car,but i wouldnt spend 15,000+ to potentialy pick up some skank in it. especially if u got a face like a bucket full of smashed crabs ... for eg.15,000 will get ruffly a brothel trip per day for 2 1/2 years!!! much better bang for ur buck

ur mates are not the epiphany of my example... nothing more than broke ass kids. if they can't afford to go out after modding a car then their still broke ass kids.. barely getting by bcoz their still in the young mind off "yeah my cars sick bitches" instead of investing the moeny in a proprty or something.

young succesful males in mid 20+ who own M3/M5/Porsche/Mercs/etc... are what i'm talking about... the ones that own things that symbolize success... since when does an r32 or sti make someone look like a balling ****?

If i was balling in mid 20s who gives a **** about a stock gtr32 or sti's... that shit only works on childish bitches... real women... especially the pretty ones know how to use what they have to get what they want.... rich males simply don't give a ****, especially the not so good looking ones... they understand this cycle hence why they work hard to ball.. while the 'playaz' are still out and about going to clubs as its their only playing ground


As for you... enjoy your good looks or charm while it lasts if your success can't keep up with it by the time your over 30yrs old....

when you guys grow up a bit more and see the real world you'll understand what i'm talking about


***EDIT***
actually there's an exception to the rule... there's the rich bitches that already have everything they wan't... they get good looking guys who are hopefully good in the sack to be their bitches

[1900-hustler]

***EDIT***
actually there's an exception to the rule... there's the rich bitches that already have everything they wan't... they get good looking guys who are hopefully good in the sack to be their bitches

wouldnt mind being one of these b*tches! hahahah

[Mikecivic78]

Cars and bitches, Ive gotta say if your car pulls the chicks then good 4 u if u wanna money grubbing biatch. Ive pulled the best looking chicks in my life while I owned a '91 Charade! If u aint got it in the looks or charms department then try to play the car card!

ANYHOW, back to the topic of this forum.

Ive been shopping around for a reasonably priced B18C DC2 for a while here in Brisbane and the lack of clean/stock/well priced ($14K MAX) examples have been hard to come by. Since I havent had much luck, Ive been entertaining the thought of getting a 99-2001 Celica since the price range is similar.

Good thing about it is the Celica has a very good power to weight ratio. Compared to the base DC5, there is no comparison....celica is the clear winner.

I love the DC2.... its legendary (enuf said), but I must admit, styling wise the Celica's got the edge over the DC2 and the DC5. I love my Hondas, but being a VTEC nut I can't discount Toyotas 1800 VVTI-L. The verdict: go 4 the Celica. Put some mags on it and lower it 4 some street cred and u'll be getting a BJ in no time u ugly bastards!

[ckool]

LOL some good & funny reply's

[detasemen88]

i actually have both the CELICA SSII and the DC5R.....

if i have to chosse between the DC5 non Type R and the Celica....

LOOKs: Definitely Celica
Power: Definitely Celica
Relibility: Honda
Parts : Honda

[Mikecivic78]

My search for a DC2/ 7th gen celica is over, i found a clean em1 ( a bit disappointing but still nice). I recon my em1 looks better than a celica, but performance wise im out of my element, time for sum mods lol.