Best air intake option?

[TegzGsi]

Alrite guys what would you consider the best air intake setup?(talking about the piping and filter only)

One thing I would also like to know is how people can take the stock filter box and filter out and replace it with a pod filter which sits in the hot engine bay with no cothering sucking all the hot air in and think it is an upgrade?

would it not just be better to put the pod filter in the stock air intake box which has a pipe running to the wheel well which is sucking in all the cooler outside air?

[Jarkz]

A quick summary...

Short ram- (where the pod in exposed in the engine bay) does draw in hotter as for the obvious reasons, but gives better throttle response, in most cases in the lower rev range. Short ram is also a positive if seeking slight performance with retaining reasonable fuel economy. (hotter air aids this).

Long ram- (Where the filter is positioned externally, out of the engine bay gets cooler atmosphere temps helping performance more, and delivers performance gains in the mid-higher rev range. (cooler air does not help economy though).

Or you could modify your existing, or larger airbox with K&N filter etc, then use a larger diameter intake duct (from T/B to airbox)then upgrade/modify the intake duct supplying air to the box... best of both worlds imo.

Putting a pod in an enclosed airbox with the above mentioned mods, probably won't yield much more than a panel filter arrangement imo.

[TegzGsi]

A quick summary...

Short ram- (where the pod in exposed in the engine bay) does draw in hotter as for the obvious reasons, but gives better throttle response, in most cases in the lower rev range. Short ram is also a positive if seeking slight performance with retaining reasonable fuel economy. (hotter air aids this).

Long ram- (Where the filter is positioned externally, out of the engine bay gets cooler atmosphere temps helping performance more, and delivers performance gains in the mid-higher rev range. (cooler air does not help economy though).

Or you could modify your existing, or larger airbox with K&N filter etc, then use a larger diameter intake duct (from T/B to airbox)then upgrade/modify the intake duct supplying air to the box... best of both worlds imo.

Putting a pod in an enclosed airbox with the above mentioned mods, probably won't yield much more than a panel filter arrangement imo.

Im thinking of just putting a pod filter in the existing intake box using a larger smoother pipe to the out side air and maybe a better pipe to the throttle body from the intake box. which is pretty much what you described in your 3rd paragraph.

[chucks]

Im thinking of just putting a pod filter in the existing intake box using a larger smoother pipe to the out side air and maybe a better pipe to the throttle body from the intake box. which is pretty much what you described in your 3rd paragraph.

Get a comptech icebox and put a drop in K&N filter for it, its properly constructed with ABS rather than flexy pipes which may have air turbulence when drawing in air.

Comptech is more bang for the buck over the mugen one which cost 3 times more.. both of them produce pretty much the same amount of HP. Mugen producing slightly more over the comptech one, probably due to the larger air piping size (Comptech is 3" in diameter, Mugen is 4") however i've heard that mugen ones performs better at the wheel, but its pretty much the same thing. As for the intake pipe, i believe any smooth pipe should do the trick.

Take a look at this article. think it might help if you are up for DIY instead of spending cash.

Link: http://www.team-integra.net/forum/display_topic_threads.asp?ThreadPage=1&ForumID=15&TopicID=187672&PagePosition=1

Hope that helps :)

[TegzGsi]

Get a comptech icebox and put a drop in K&N filter for it, its properly constructed with ABS rather than flexy pipes which may have air turbulence when drawing in air.

Comptech is more bang for the buck over the mugen one which cost 3 times more.. both of them produce pretty much the same amount of HP. Mugen producing slightly more over the comptech one, probably due to the larger air piping size (Comptech is 3" in diameter, Mugen is 4") however i've heard that mugen ones performs better at the wheel, but its pretty much the same thing. As for the intake pipe, i believe any smooth pipe should do the trick.

Take a look at this article. think it might help if you are up for DIY instead of spending cash.

Link: http://www.team-integra.net/forum/display_topic_threads.asp?ThreadPage=1&ForumID=15&TopicID=187672&PagePosition=1

Hope that helps :)

Wow that really helps thanks
I will see what I can do tommorow thanks again.

[chucks]

Here's another
http://www.geocities.com/bretq/DIY_Icebox_CAI.html

[saikou27]

your cars a gsi? do they come standard with a pod filter in the airbox? if so i would reccomend u replace the filter with a k&n keep it in the box and widen the pipe to about 90mm with pvc piping and leave it to suck cold air from the guard

[TegzGsi]

Here's another
http://www.geocities.com/bretq/DIY_Icebox_CAI.html

Check it out goes hard now man thanks for all the help I sussed it out even fits in the box so I can put the lid on still.
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/9784/sv400020.jpg

[chucks]

Check it out goes hard now man thanks for all the help I sussed it out even fits in the box so I can put the lid on still.
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/9784/sv400020.jpg

No worries, mate! Awesome setup. Looks like you did a really good job... btw you should drill some small holes at the corner of the inlet pipe for water to flow out during the rainy seasons..

Check out small drainage holes (mark by red circles) on the icebox, maybe it'll give u a rough idea on where to drill:

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt316/chuckswii/iceboxlowerdone.jpg

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt316/chuckswii/iceboxbothmountsdone.jpg

[TegzGsi]

No worries, mate! Awesome setup. Looks like you did a really good job... btw you should drill some small holes at the corner of the inlet pipe for water to flow out during the rainy seasons..

Check out small drainage holes (mark by red circles) on the icebox, maybe it'll give u a rough idea on where to drill:

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt316/chuckswii/iceboxlowerdone.jpg

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt316/chuckswii/iceboxbothmountsdone.jpg

Thanks yeah i'll see what i can do.
I attatched a little filter for the Rocker cover so now it has it's own supply of air and doesn't need to steal from the T/B.

Plus I really think this made a Huge difference in the car and sounds so good.

[saikou27]

as if u need to drill holes in the airbox. i wouldnt worry about it. water wont ever travel that far up the pipe to the box

[TegzGsi]

as if u need to drill holes in the airbox. i wouldnt worry about it. water wont ever travel that far up the pipe to the box

Yeh I don't think I will but it was still a nice suggestion.

[chucks]

as if u need to drill holes in the airbox. i wouldnt worry about it. water wont ever travel that far up the pipe to the box

True, true.. the mugen airbox have no drainholes.

[imratedpg]

tegzgsi wat air filter are u running in that pic?

[TegzGsi]

tegzgsi wat air filter are u running in that pic?

Uhm it's a Redline goes dam good man.
And the pipes are all just custom that I bought and made up.
Cost me pronley like a $100 for the system compared to normal CAI systems which are well 3 to 4 times that much..

[chucks]

Uhm it's a Redline goes dam good man.
And the pipes are all just custom that I bought and made up.
Cost me pronley like a $100 for the system compared to normal CAI systems which are well 3 to 4 times that much..

Wow... You actually saved heaps. Well Done Tegz! :thumbsup:

[TegzGsi]

Wow... You actually saved heaps. Well Done Tegz! :thumbsup:

Hahah thanks but you did help me with all the ideas and builds you showed me.

But one question guys is it possible that my car could have more power with the intake box cover off because it does feel like it but it may be due to it making more noise it gets to my head but the only other thing I can think of is that the CAI pipe from the box to the grill is too small..

[joe.teg]

dont run SRI

FULL CAI FTW

CAI>SRI

[TegzGsi]

dont run SRI

FULL CAI FTW

CAI>SRI

Lol JoeTeg you love my threads don't you

[imratedpg]

thats alrite i guess i got a cold air intake for under 150 haha i dont use it tho waiting for stock dc2 airbox to customize it too :D

[TegzGsi]

thats alrite i guess i got a cold air intake for under 150 haha i dont use it tho waiting for stock dc2 airbox to customize it too :D

Haha nice good all the best

[imratedpg]

tegzgsi i can see u modified the top half did u also make the bottom part as well like in the first link ice box ? and can i have the parts list for it

[joe.teg]

lol yeah...
i have a thing for you tegzi :P

[TegzGsi]

tegzgsi i can see u modified the top half did u also make the bottom part as well like in the first link ice box ? and can i have the parts list for it

No I have not as of yet due to the pipe actually being quite wide already although I think that I will do it in the future.

The parts was is just bought at auto barn..
RedLine podfilter
drift piping
and some connectors
Clamps to fit pipes

Can't remember all the prices but you can buy all these at auto barn and it should be about a $100.

[TegzGsi]

lol yeah...
i have a thing for you tegzi :P

Lol keep that on the down low thanks.

[chucks]

Oh tegz... by the way did u go with the 3" or 4" piping?

[TegzGsi]

Oh tegz... by the way did u go with the 3" or 4" piping?

For which part of the setup the piping going to the Throtle body is 3" and the pipe going to the cold air is 3" I want to make it 4" though would recommend going big there.

[chucks]

For which part of the setup the piping going to the Throtle body is 3" and the pipe going to the cold air is 3" I want to make it 4" though would recommend going big there.

Make it 4", lol. from the article link i sent you, its seems to make more power there

[TegzGsi]

Make it 4", lol. from the article link i sent you, its seems to make more power there

Yeh I will later but for now I think it isn't bad at all.

[string]

Every dollar you spend is another which could be going towards an engine conversion. No problem if you aren't looking for much power, but if you want that 30kW, forget about intakes and cams and start saving for a B18C.

[TegzGsi]

Every dollar you spend is another which could be going towards an engine conversion. No problem if you aren't looking for much power, but if you want that 30kW, forget about intakes and cams and start saving for a B18C.

This cost me hardly any money and I needed to change the filter any way so it's not like im going to put a stock one in instead of one with a warrenty of 12 months that cost the same as one that doesn't.

[WhiteRice]

You're all going about it all wrong.

Remove the entire intake, and throttle body.
Glue a pod filter onto the intake manifold FTW
Sit back and enjoy

[TegzGsi]

You're all going about it all wrong.

Remove the entire intake, and throttle body.
Glue a pod filter onto the intake manifold FTW
Sit back and enjoy

Didn't your mum ever tell you that if you don't have any thing nice to say don't say anything at all?

[imratedpg]

Here's another
http://www.geocities.com/bretq/DIY_Icebox_CAI.html

just did this diy works really good :D now gonna try and mod a filter in the box

[Aydin]

heyy mate if u got the cash go with an injen c,a,i there relly good and a dc2 type r one will fit ur car there reely good but a bit deer
cheers