Thoughts on Boost controllers.

[FastFwd]

Ok so im finished my build and ill be getting my car tuned on 23rd and i wanna get rid of my crappy turbosmart boost bleeder and get a nice electronic boost controller.

I've looked into the E-boost and E-boost 2 as alot of guys on here have these and love em.

I looked into this US brand called Gizzmo a while back and I've done some more research.

Read up on some forums and have been told that they use the same solenoid as the E-boost 2 as one of the guys swapped from the Eboost2 to the Gizzmo. He found that it was as good if not better. Dyno charts showed a very similar result but he just like the fact that it was simpler, smaller, easier to use and install. Not saying that the eboost2 is hard.

http://www.modyourcar.com.au/images/products/gizzmo/gi0921.jpg

heres a good forum read:
http://www.toymods.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-11432.html

There selling for $299 so its a fairly large difference in price compared to the Eboost2. I think the main reason im leaning toward the Gizzmo is because its Simpler, less bulky (smaller) and easier to use and configure compared to the Eboost2 or AVCR.

I want to know if anyone else is running this boost controller and can you share your thoughts, or if anyone can give some other options on what there running and your advantages and disadvantages to the setup you have compared to others.

[CRXer]

if i was running boost & making a decent amount of power,i think my main priority would be looking into a boost per gear option

[FastFwd]

if i was running boost & making a decent amount of power,i think my main priority would be looking into a boost per gear option

This has boost per gear option.

[CRXer]

yeh,but does it work?
isnt it a simple time based selection of boost? it might work on consistent runs down the strip,but how do u set it up for the street or am i thinkin about another controller?

adrian was saying a coupla weeks ago when he was workin on lukes car that they just couldnt get the eboost(i think it was?) to work,even had the rep there & he just shrugged his shoulders.

[FastFwd]

Nah this isnt the Eboost.

Eboost/eboost2 is apparently meant to be great.

Well as far as i have read on other forums by searching google the Gizzmo works great with most of its features. Most guys said it was more ideal for street use. 1 click button to change boost etc.

[Limbo]

lets just say i got the eboost2 and i dunno how to use it. Its bloody complicated.

SO long as a boost controller holds boost correctly, that's the most important thing.

[CRXer]

maybe just something u might want to research,if your expecting hands free boost per gear in all situations.

i just still picture luke sitting there with all the MPH in the world,but only if he could get the car moving,not to mention all the other boosted monsters ive murdered to half track in my little shitbox just to see them go steaming past at like 1000km/h just before the line

[FastFwd]

lets just say i got the eboost2 and i dunno how to use it. Its bloody complicated.

SO long as a boost controller holds boost correctly, that's the most important thing.

Well thats the thing. The gizzmo from what people have said has been responsive and holds boost really well and from a quote lol "Yep, the Gizzmo is a sample of urine (piece of piss) to install and set up"

personally i love it how simple and small and clean it looks. Big numbers etc.

[Limbo]

for the price i think that would be fine. I know that some EBC don't hold boost properly and leak.

If your not expecting or needing the other functions i don't see why u bother to spend the extra.

I only have the eboost2 cos i got it as a present, never realised how good it was until i used it and read some reviews on it

[FastFwd]

for the price i think that would be fine. I know that some EBC don't hold boost properly and leak.

If your not expecting or needing the other functions i don't see why u bother to spend the extra.

I only have the eboost2 cos i got it as a present, never realised how good it was until i used it and read some reviews on it

Well the Gizzmo uses the same solenoid as the eboost2 so leek problems would occur as much with them as they would with the eboost2 which i rarely here of.

But it does come with very similar options to the Eboost2.

Anyone using an AVCR?

[Lukezen27]

I'm yet to read through the e-boost 2 manual but there's a lot to understand...

% boost increase via the RPM wire is what makes e-boost so good at holding PSI.

The boost per grear opt sounds good for down the track but not really needed on 150kw

But with FastFwD power its more ideal

[FastFwd]

So this is some information from www.gizzmoelectronics.com

Gizzmo MS-IBC Boostcontroller

In developing the MS-IBC, the aim was to design and engineer a boost controller that would cater to the serious drag racing professional, whilst still being quite at home on the streets. We succeeded. The MS-IBC is packed with the serious features that can be utilised in the real world of drag racing like 3.5 bar of boost control, a clear digital boost gauge with an over boost warning and a remote Facility to either toggle the high speed boost change memories or operate the Gizzmo Multi-Scramble feature.

Gizzmo's Multi-Scramble takes the conventional scramble feature one step further. A conventional scramble allows the user, upon pressing a button, to set a fixed amount of over boost and time duration e.g. 3lb extra for 5sec. Gizzmo's Multi-Scramble function allows the user to operate the button again before the scramble time has completed adding the same amount of boost again and refreshing the time duration.
All of this plus closed/open loop modes packed into a great looking controller that is so easy to fit and operate.


* Adjustable up to 50lb (3.5bar)
* Multi Scramble Boost
* Remote Scramble/Boost Memory button facility
* Over-Boost warning
* Selectable open/closed loop boost control
* 6 Boost Memories
* 40mhz High Speed RISC Processor
* Black Extruded Aluminium case
* Blue 7 segment LED display
* White backlit buttons
* Real Time digital boost gauge
* Simple 2-Wire Installation
* Suits Internal or External Wastegates
* Comes complete with all fitting

If im right i think the Scramble option lets you time the boost in sections instead of % per RPM.

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i think ill list my references in order for a boost controller:

1st: 2 or more boost memories
2nd: holds up to 25psi of boost
3rd: holds boost well
4th: easy to use (and install)
5th: Compact in size
6th: Boost increase in adjusted by Time or RPM %
7th: looks
8th: price

I think this controller does pretty much that but i gotta find out about the Multi Scramble boost option and how it works.

[iced]

if your ecu support boost control just wire up a solenoid for it.
beats paying $750 for an eboost2

[lookingforboost]

ummm yeah man i had an Eboost2 and i really didnt like it but i have a good mate running one in each of his cars and loves it although the tuner here sells them and tunes them with the car so all you have to do is push the button i tried to configure mine and i just didnt like it bit hard to navigate and pain to get it to save functions and it was big and didnt hide very well in the civic.

i have 2 mates that have the AVCR's and thats what i wanted they look cool and are a bit easier to hook up and program so looking for one of these i found the gizzmo and thought it was great easy to hide and awesome to use,

so the Eboost2 was passed on (sold it) caz i didnt like it lol and i have since bought a AEM tru-boost controller :) which i have yet to run as i have no turbo atm :(

up to you but if your ecu dosnt support a boost controll option then i would go the Gizzmo its just as good as the Eboost2 and heaps cheaper as well! and at least you can hook it up and use it!

[B20NA]

If you want electronic Gizzmo is good made in NZ, also HDI is excellent value for money with digital boost gauge http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=350211681869
for less expensive units that work just as good and use the same solenoid as gizzmo, eboost ect try these my mate's got 1 on his s15 and loves it, no spikes http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=320381964452

[tayl51601]

What kind of ECU are you using??
Im getting mine tuned by adrian in 2 weeks and i was going to see if he could install a hondata boost controller.
I dont know much about them but apparantly they sit in the ecu and work well :thumbsup:
The only problem is that you can only drive your car on the settings made at the time of tuning.......

[IEVAQ8]

as greg mentioned, if ur using hondata ecu, just purchase hondata boost solenoid, and that will allow u to set up boost per gear, how much boost on launch control and the likes of many other options that eboost and gizzmo have....

good luck

p.s. im pretty sure the hondata solenoid/ boost controler is only around $200

hondata boost contoller i was wrong, only $100

http://www.hondata.com/hondatasolenoid.html

[Lukezen27]

as greg mentioned, if ur using hondata ecu, just purchase hondata boost solenoid, and that will allow u to set up boost per gear, how much boost on launch control and the likes of many other options that eboost and gizzmo have....

good luck

p.s. im pretty sure the hondata solenoid/ boost controler is only around $200

hondata boost contoller i was wrong, only $100

http://www.hondata.com/hondatasolenoid.html

Man I wish I new that :) I'm running Hondata and e-boost 2 :o

[FastFwd]

Im using a Power FC with hand controller and i have been told you can get the solenoid option for it but you need to use the PFC one and there hard to find and expensive.

I'd rather a separate unit to be honest. I dont think the PFC controller options are that good. There designed as an ECU with boost controller add on so the features for the boost controller wouldnt be that great.

[CRXer]

dont worry luke,as far as im aware the s100 doesnt support boost control & if it does it def doesnt support boost curve shaping or per gear control. & also the ecu being jdm, then it is not boost control capable either.

& dont forget on top of purchase of solenoid for hondata boost enabled options u have to solder in about $10 worth of components to the ecu,somebody else will prob charge u $100 to add these components.

[Lukezen27]

dont worry luke,as far as im aware the s100 doesnt support boost control & if it does it def doesnt support boost curve shaping or per gear control. & also the ecu being jdm, then it is not boost control capable either.

& dont forget on top of purchase of solenoid for hondata boost enabled options u have to solder in about $10 worth of components to the ecu,somebody else will prob charge u $100 to add these components.

Plus in cabin boost control rocks anyway :)

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Plus in cabin boost control rocks anyway :)

word!

[CRXer]

u can set up in cabin with hondata, toggle between cruise & race,if u need any more settings then u havent got your controller setup properly.

+ id rather play with my dick at the traffic lights anyway,better results.

[FastFwd]

in cabin baby gravy

[CRXer]

good for squeaky clutch pedals,try it

[FastFwd]

i wonder what it would be like if it was put in the fuel tank :)

every convo at one point ends up dirty

I tend to think that my car is a she so will that mean she will scream when i cream?

[tayl51601]

as greg mentioned, if ur using hondata ecu, just purchase hondata boost solenoid, and that will allow u to set up boost per gear, how much boost on launch control and the likes of many other options that eboost and gizzmo have....

good luck

p.s. im pretty sure the hondata solenoid/ boost controler is only around $200

hondata boost contoller i was wrong, only $100

http://www.hondata.com/hondatasolenoid.html

I got S100, it says on that site its for S300 so i cant use it...

Maybe ill have to get a eboost or gizzmo.
Im not fussed because if im getting it tuned by Adrian im sure hes not going to recommend anything dodgy.

[Lukezen27]

I got S100, it says on that site its for S300 so i cant use it...

Maybe ill have to get a eboost or gizzmo.
Im not fussed because if im getting it tuned by Adrian im sure hes not going to recommend anything dodgy.

Adrain tunes mine and he's the one that recommend e-boost 2 :p

[tayl51601]

Adrain tunes mine and he's the one that recommend e-boost 2 :p

How much power are you making on what psi???

[Lukezen27]

How much power are you making on what psi???

151kw at 8psi

I want'a run 10psi but Adrain won't after a blew my last motor hahahdsfah

What are you hoping for?

[tayl51601]

150kw is what im aiming for but im hoping for 160 lol
Im going to ask him if he can put it to 9psi, if he doesnt recommend it then ill just stay at 8psi as long as i get 150kw or close enough to it lol

[Limbo]

160kw on 9PSI should be fine.
I made 162kw on 10PSI

Hoping for more this time!

[FastFwd]

151kw at 8psi

I want'a run 10psi but Adrain won't after a blew my last motor hahahdsfah

What are you hoping for?

Wow you would want to hope that you had a boost controller that held boost well and didn't spike.

[FastFwd]

160kw on 9PSI should be fine.
I made 162kw on 10PSI

Hoping for more this time!


Your B Series tho arnt you?

Lukenzen is D series.

[Lukezen27]

Your B Series tho arnt you?

Lukenzen is D series.

Was D :o

Wow you would want to hope that you had a boost controller that held boost well and didn't spike.

vac line came off cozing overboost

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Was D :o


vac line came off cozing overboost

Ohh yeh thats right you got same JDM b16a as me.

Thats harsh about the vac line.

[Lukezen27]

Ohh yeh thats right you got same JDM b16a as me.

Thats harsh about the vac line.

Only thing I didn't install :)

I've installed very bit of the turbo setup this time round :thumbsup:

[VTi_b0i]

im due for a retune aswell... im running NepTune but the numbers werent quite what i hoped so im tossing up whether to buy Hondata, OR buy a boost controller and have a retune as is...

[Limbo]

hmmm
I'm running power FC.
ETA sat for my car to be semi ready, then a few more goodies on my car before tune.
So prob the following week tuning.....

[FastFwd]

Only thing I didn't install :)

I've installed very bit of the turbo setup this time round :thumbsup:

Alot of people dont put clamps on vac lines even when they turbo there car when it was originally NA'd and it always annoys me. Im a little picky that way, i went and bought nice little industrial 8mm clamps from Hostmart and put them over all my vac lines. I hate the stock clamps or those crappy screw threaded clamps which break all the time.

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hmmm
I'm running power FC.
ETA sat for my car to be semi ready, then a few more goodies on my car before tune.
So prob the following week tuning.....

What turbo etc your runnin limbo? think we spoke about this before but our turbo setup sounds very similar but your running high comp setup arnt you?

im getting mine tuned on the 23rd after i run it in. Car is still at my uncles workshop getting the timing setup so i can start the thing since the rebuild.

Plus i snapped one of the cam cap bolts which he needed to fix.

[Lukezen27]

im due for a retune aswell... im running NepTune but the numbers werent quite what i hoped so im tossing up whether to buy Hondata, OR buy a boost controller and have a retune as is...

Sell the NepTune and buy Hondata + new actuator spring

Retune by Adrain..

He's tunes are half the price of NepTune anyway so your saving cash straight away


Alot of people dont put clamps on vac lines even when they turbo there car when it was originally NA'd and it always annoys me. Im a little picky that way, i went and bought nice little industrial 8mm clamps from Hostmart and put them over all my vac lines. I hate the stock clamps or those crappy screw threaded clamps which break all the time.


That's what happened

I'm now using the steal clips that come with e-boost

[VTi_b0i]

Ive got either a P06, or P72 ECU at home i cant remember but im 80% sure its a JDM p72, how much would it cost to get that chipped for Hondata S300 with boost? and does anyone know how much adrian charges for tuning?

[Lukezen27]

Ive got either a P06, or P72 ECU at home i cant remember but im 80% sure its a JDM p72, how much would it cost to get that chipped for Hondata S300 with boost? and does anyone know how much adrian charges for tuning?

You don't need S300 man

S100B is all you need really $350 + ECU plus $100 chiping I believe

$600ish for the first tune

[FastFwd]

Only if we had guys like adrian in perth that know there honda's as well as he does.

I like my tuner, hes really good but he doesnt specialize in honda's

[Limbo]

i got a GT28r on old setup running PFC @10PSI making 162kwatw on stock motor

New setup GT2876r .... dunno yet.

Lukes got my old manifold & dump pipe.

Its all new now.....

[FastFwd]

You don't need S300 man

S100B is all you need really $350 + ECU plus $100 chiping I believe

$600ish for the first tune

Wow thats cheap i wish i knew that 3 years ago.

[Limbo]

come to sydney then :)
I been to WA it was pretty boring, the only thing i liked was that you could park in the city for like almost nothing, & there are hardly any people around.

Also when clubbing there were 80% gals!!!
didn't even need to pickup, they picked u up!

but then again that was 10yrs ago.... (starting to show my age)

[CRXer]

You don't need S300 man

S100B is all you need really $350 + ECU plus $100 chiping I believe

$600ish for the first tune

luke,whats an s100"B"? i thought it was u just making typos on the space bar

also,
ecu + $350 + $100 + eboost2? = how much?????

[FastFwd]

come to sydney then :)
I been to WA it was pretty boring, the only thing i liked was that you could park in the city for like almost nothing, & there are hardly any people around.

Also when clubbing there were 80% gals!!!
didn't even need to pickup, they picked u up!

but then again that was 10yrs ago.... (starting to show my age)

Yer city costs like $12+ a day for parking these days

still 80% gals and its so easy to "get picked up" (so its great for us guys)


If i was to move somewhere else it would be melb. Have some family there and i lived there for 4 months and found it was just a bigger version of perth.

Sorry for people in syd but just not a fan, been there twice on hol and wasnt really feeling it. Car scene was great tho, was at macca's forgot which road it was in the middle of the city about 5 years ago and Bulk cars just started going past doing lap after lap at like 11pm either on friday or sat night.

Probably doesnt happen these days. Probably the same as perth with Scarborough on Sundays and Scarbs top car park on friday nights...or kingsway shopping centre on thursday nights.

[FastFwd]

luke,whats an s100"B"? i thought it was u just making typos on the space bar

also,
ecu + $350 + $100 + eboost2? = how much?????

The B is prolly for the Boost option

[Lukezen27]

luke,whats an s100"B"? i thought it was u just making typos on the space bar

also,
ecu + $350 + $100 + eboost2? = how much?????

Hondata S100 standard
Hondata S100B Boost option :)

eboost2 between 700-800 depending who/where you buy

[Limbo]

still 80% gals and its so easy to "get picked up" (so its great for us guys)

yeah it confused the hell out of me at the time, i was young and innocent in those days *sigh*

[CRXer]

Hondata S100 standard
Hondata S100B Boost option :)

eboost2 between 700-800 depending who/where you buy
there is no boost option,luke,all the s100's map for boost,& they all dont control boost,s100 is s100,all the same.

so the new equation is,
ecu + $350 + $100 + $700 = approx the same as a full boost enabled s300
i know where my money would be going

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so the new equation is,
ecu + $350 + $100 + $700 = approx the same as a full boost enabled s300
i know where my money would be going

or ecu + $350 + $100 + $299 (instead of $700 if you wish to go Gizzmo which i think i will be)

or is $700 for the tune?

[Lukezen27]

there is no boost option,luke,all the s100's map for boost,& they all dont control boost,s100 is s100,all the same.

so the new equation is,
ecu + $350 + $100 + $700 = approx the same as a full boost enabled s300
i know where my money would be going

Na man there standard and boost versions of the S100

Thought close to all new ones are the B version anyway

[VTi_b0i]

Do i send my ECU away for chipping?
how much is the S300 then?

[FastFwd]

Vti b0i i have a b16a2 ECU at home if you want it for $50 so you can keep your running.

Wait you have b18 dont ya?

[VTi_b0i]

i got a boosted b18 :)
its running with a neptune ecu atm, but i have a JDM p72 ecu that came with my conversion.
so ill have to buy the hondata, and get it tuned etc then sell mine...
im due to get a LSD very soon, so i duno if i should get the LSD now or just get it retuned first then LSD later
thanks for the offer anyways dude

[FastFwd]

i got a boosted b18 :)
its running with a neptune ecu atm, but i have a JDM p72 ecu that came with my conversion.
so ill have to buy the hondata, and get it tuned etc then sell mine...
im due to get a LSD very soon, so i duno if i should get the LSD now or just get it retuned first then LSD later
thanks for the offer anyways dude

LSD wont make a difference in the tune tho...

With the hondata ecu's dont you need to give them your stock ECU so they can hack it up? Or you can buy there ECU with it hacked. Its cheaper if you have one already. Thats what the guy from hondata told me a while back.

[Lukezen27]

Do i send my ECU away for chipping?
how much is the S300 then?

I sent mine away but I think Adrian knows someone who dose it here

The S300 is like $800 + ECU + Chipping but all TODA to find out for sure Christian

[VTi_b0i]

oh ok kool... yeah well ive already got the ECU, because when i got the neptune, that came with another chipped ECU, so i can have my P72 sent away for chipping, so for the s300 im looking at 800, + the chipping? why isnt the bloody chipping included in the 800? but i think because my ECU is JDM, i need the S300J chip. Do i need to buy the boost solenoid aswell?

[CRXer]

Na man there standard and boost versions of the S100

Thought close to all new ones are the B version anyway

nah luke,ur thinkin of the old s200 fkup where they wanted to charge extra for boost. thankgod they pulled the plug on it,the whole s200 concept was a total mess.


i got a boosted b18 :)
its running with a neptune ecu atm, but i have a JDM p72 ecu that came with my conversion.


dont forget, u cant enable boost control on a jdm P72,if u want it, swap it for an aussie version.

[VTi_b0i]

really?
because isnt the chip the same? lol spewing i sold my MINT p28 ecu to Luke lol

[CRXer]

yes,really.

the s300 & s300J are featured the same,but that doesnt change the fact that the jdm ecu just dont have the footprint on the board to enable the solenoid output to run boost control.
u also lose an analog input or 2 with the jdm ecu,if u need em.

[VTi_b0i]

oh crap lol anyone wana swap?
how do u exactly tell its a JDM ecu? just to make sure

[CRXer]

whats the 1st & 2nd letter/number after p72 say?

jdm are almost square case,others are rectangular.

in case ur getting confused,u can still tune for boost,but u will need a seperate boost "controller"

[VTi_b0i]

oh thats not bad then, ill get a gizzmo :D
its P72-003 and yeahh its square

[CRXer]

yep,first 0 means japan,& since the second is 0,give me your best price on it & i'll consider taking it off u.

problem with the gizzmo,is its just 2 wires,so u got no feedback from the car to tailor boost to suit your car.best u'll have is a button to add a bit of boost when u want,hardly ideal for trying to launch a car thru a coupla different gears.

if u dont need launch control/datalog & the ability to fiddle the tune/settings yourself,u may as well stick to the s100 + boost controller,otherwise try to source a nonjdm ecu for much better value/results.

[VTi_b0i]

i see... i spose ill try track down a AUDM ecu...bloody hell i was hoping i didnt have to get another ecu...
because id like all the features
how much do u think my one is worth? 100bux? less? more?

[Lukezen27]

really?
because isnt the chip the same? lol spewing i sold my MINT p28 ecu to Luke lol

DOH

I like 3 P28s at one point but sold em all :o

Sorry Christain

[lookingforboost]

ummmm 80% girls really...... road trip to WA then ;)

[VTi_b0i]

fcuk! lol FASTFWD, has an ecu aswell, but that is also JDM lol bloody hell... time to put up a WTB thread lol

[FastFwd]

Sorry dude...im sure there are plenty of people on here that have there stock ECU's that are lying around in there shed.

[VTi_b0i]

lol spewing i sold mine, it was focking mint! lol
i wonder how much i can sell my NepTune for

[tayl51601]

I got my stock ECU for b16A2..........
Ill also be down in sydney in two weeks so let me know if you want it :thumbsup:

[FastFwd]

I got my stock ECU for b16A2..........
Ill also be down in sydney in two weeks so let me know if you want it :thumbsup:

most B16a2 usually JDM dude...

hes looking for AUDM is yours aus or jap b16a2?

[VTi_b0i]

is it definatly AUDM? lol and what condition is it in? oh and how much u after? :D

[tayl51601]

From a EK4 so AUDM??

[VTi_b0i]

kool man... got a pic of it by anychance? i just wana make sure i get one thats in very good condition lol cause the one i have now is...

[tayl51601]

Just sent a PM

Ill get a pick for you tonight

[VTi_b0i]

thanks heaps dude :D

[CRXer]

ek4 is obd2,no use to you.

[Lukezen27]

ek4 is obd2,no use to you.

Yup

Char

[lookingforboost]

back to the drawing board :P

[VTi_b0i]

oh snap! lolll fcuk

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i think i have obd2 with the obd1 converter harness cos i had to get that from adrian if i can remember about 2-3 years back to get my Power FC to work. My Engine was originally from an 2000 JDM Sir ek b16a2.

[VTi_b0i]

well a little update, Adrian looked at my ECU and informed me that all he has to do is simply put an S100 hondata chip into my ECU and he can tune it... so i dont need a new ecu after all... just gotta get a boost controller LOL so now, which one to get? anyone tried the gizzmo?

[Lukezen27]

well a little update, Adrian looked at my ECU and informed me that all he has to do is simply put an S100 hondata chip into my ECU and he can tune it... so i dont need a new ecu after all... just gotta get a boost controller LOL so now, which one to get? anyone tried the gizzmo?

That's what I'm running Christian ;)

Don't forget your new actuator and ask Adrian what size spring he recommends...

[VTi_b0i]

anyone heard of Eboost street?
New actuator? igot a 7.2psi srping y0

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I bought the Gizzmo Boost Controller this morning $310 Delivered. :) hopefully i get it and then i gotta install it before next Tuesday.

[lookingforboost]

I bought the Gizzmo Boost Controller this morning $310 Delivered. :) hopefully i get it and then i gotta install it before next Tuesday.

let us know how you like it :cool:

[FastFwd]

will do

[VTi_b0i]

i want the eboost2 haha sooo many good features! just so expensive :(
how much did u pay for yours Luke:?

[FastFwd]

Came in today....

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m44/fastfwdcivic/19062009112.jpg

Pretty cool it comes with this remote trigger that you can attach to your steering wheel or where ever. So instead of having to reach down and press the controller you can have it somewhere more accessible.

[lookingforboost]

Getting a new one for mums car ha ha..... ;)

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I've installed the thing. Was soo easy and took less than 1 hour to have the car running with it. Only thing is now is im finding it hard to set the Boost settings. In the manual it has no where that explains how to change the boost settings.

Says a whole bunch of crap on duty cycle and boost scramble but no simple boost adjustment. Its probably easy i just need to get my head around it.

[CRXer]

duty cycle is just directly related to how much the solenoid is open/closed
scramble is just jumping to a different boost setting.
multi scramble is just toggling with the switch between 2 or more boost settings.
theres prob a time base associated with each scramble setting.

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duty cycle is just directly related to how much the solenoid is open/closed
scramble is just jumping to a different boost setting.
multi scramble is just toggling with the switch between 2 or more boost settings.
theres prob a time base associated with each scramble setting.

Yeh it has a time based scamble also...

ok so Duty cycle is basically your boost control.

I'll suss it out tonight and set my 6 boost options and then im getting it tuned tomorrow.

[VTi_b0i]

what are u aiming for?

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what are u aiming for?

what in a boost controller?

amount of PSI?

amount of power?

[VTi_b0i]

the amount of power, on what PSI?
how much did your build cost? pm me if its a secret... i just want to know how much il be looking at if i ever rebuild mine

[Lukezen27]

the amount of power, on what PSI?
how much did your build cost? pm me if its a secret... i just want to know how much il be looking at if i ever rebuild mine

He did a lot of the work himself Christian :p

Are you up to that?

[VTi_b0i]

LOL no... id like to see its done properly :p
well how much for parts then? and ill say add another 2k on top of that for labour?

[votek]

external gate ftw

[lookingforboost]

yeah the dam duty cycle instructions .... ha ha i have to re do mine agian on the AEM boost guage lol but i might just leave the spring in the gate controlling it for the moment till i get some rods :(

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the amount of power, on what PSI?
how much did your build cost? pm me if its a secret... i just want to know how much il be looking at if i ever rebuild mine

Nah no secret dude...heres my rebuild thread:

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=111167

JE Rings from US and ACL bearings from AUS: $180 wholesale.
Mfactory LSD from e240 off her: $500
Race/rally spec Exedy clutch: $567 of Yonas from JDM Yard
new gt2871r with 56 trim from Mercury Motorsport: $950
New oils, sparks, filters etc: $140
Hone rebuild etc: Free Myself
Fixing odds and broken small things i found: $150ish
Painted parts: Free Myself
Gizzmo Boost controller: $299
RC 660 injectors: $450 purchased from someone on here about 9 months ago
Walbro 500hp fuel pump: $300 Wholesale about 9 months ago
Heavy duty AEM Fuel pressure reg: $200
Machined flywheel: Free Myself
Tune tomorrow: $700
MPR Rear LCA's: $199
Xtra heavy duty whiteline rear 28mm sway: $299


Dunno what it came to but roughly 4.5g for:

Turbo upgrade
LSD
Clutch Upgrade
rebuild
Boost Controller Upgrade
Injector Upgrade
Fuel pump Upgrade
Service
Fuel pressure reg upgrade
Machined Flywheel
Small Fixes
Rear Suspension and sway bar upgrade
Full Tune.

After i sell old Pressure reg, fuel pump, injectors, boost controller, Stock diff, gt28r Turbo.

Rebuild will come to around 3.5g roughly

Gone from 7psi with 240hp atw's like 1 year ago to the above upgrades with 20-24psi max hoping to get anything over 320hp atw's but will drive daily at about 10-12 psi and have the boost controlled option to run upto 20 or 24psi for quater mile times etc.

I want Durabilty and street-ability and have the option for drags.

I spent over 30 hours of work so labour would have cost a crap load. Mechanics would have been a bit quicker than myself but still they would have spent over 20 hours which is still a massive ammount. At least 2-3g in labour costs saved.

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Also heres my new Boost controller install:

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m44/fastfwdcivic/IMGP8718.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m44/fastfwdcivic/IMGP8717.jpg

Mind the nub red and black interior colour. Havent changed it since my bling younger days. Gonna get changed soon tho..so over it.

quoted from my build thread to share the boost controller install.

[tayl51601]

Thats nice and small!
I hope i can use this one, will find out this weekend!

Im surprised you havent been caught for that radar detector lol

[lookingforboost]

nar WA is all sweet for them..... i think anyway??? .... PS send me one ha ha

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nah WA is legal for radar detectors... WA = Win

[hussLEr]

How did you go with setting up the boost controller FastFwd?..It's alittle difficult for the first times huh?..setting all the boost percentages and always monitoring your boost guage to see if boost spikes?!...took me awhile, though I'm running a Greddy Profec B Spec 2.

Great feature that scramble boost. It's like 'free' nos =p

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How did you go with setting up the boost controller FastFwd?..It's alittle difficult for the first times huh?..setting all the boost percentages and always monitoring your boost guage to see if boost spikes?!...took me awhile, though I'm running a Greddy Profec B Spec 2.

Great feature that scramble boost. It's like 'free' nos =p

Install was 10 out 10...so easy
Boost setup 5 out 10, was very confusing at the start and the manual is a bunch of rubbish. doesnt tell you anything but once you work your head around it. Works great. Holds boost well, i like it so far

Altho i would have gone with the new Eboost Street if i had of known about it. Its a Turbosmart version of the gizzmo...Very similar but turbosmart and only $80 more. i would have gone with that option if i had of known earlier.

[lookingforboost]

E boost street?? hmm havnt heard of it i'll have to have a look at that

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Yer i was kinda annoyed when i found out cos i would have gone with that option...apparently very similar to eboost 2 accept its compact and small like the gizzmo.

[VTi_b0i]

yeahh that may be the one i get if i cant afford the Eboost2...

[VTi_b0i]

does anyone know the main differences in the Turbosmart street and Eboost2 controllers to make the eboost like 500bux more? is it worth it?

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does anyone know the main differences in the Turbosmart street and Eboost2 controllers to make the eboost like 500bux more? is it worth it?

$400 bucks more.

[VTi_b0i]

lol u know wat i mean

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hahha im just being a prick dont worry.

[VTi_b0i]

lol i know :p
So anyones thoughts on the 2? i mean i will probably just hold off on the tune so i canget the Eboost2 but if its not worth the extra money, im set to roll now :D

[Nepolian]

I have fitted and tuned many boost controller for myself and friends. I have to say, the Eboost was the most complicated! and the GIZZMO is in the top three of easiest and fool proof to fit and use.

For the day to day user and occasional track/strip, you cant go past the GIZZMO. I had one myself a while ago when they first come out!

EBoost is simply too difficult to set and has too many features for anyone to use or likely yo use.

Any of the Jap branded dual solenoide will work very well too and still cheaper than Eboost. I not dissing Eboost, but its too difficult to setup for the average joe :(

[VTi_b0i]

thanks for that dude!
im not really worried about setting it up as the mechanic will do that when it goes in for the re tune...
the tuner (adrian @ TODA) actually said the Eboost2 was the best EBC hes dealt with thats why im leaning toward that...
Im after an EBC that will be reliable, that i can have 2 or 3 boost settings and will run my motor the best :D

[Lukezen27]

I have fitted and tuned many boost controller for myself and friends. I have to say, the Eboost was the most complicated! and the GIZZMO is in the top three of easiest and fool proof to fit and use.

For the day to day user and occasional track/strip, you cant go past the GIZZMO. I had one myself a while ago when they first come out!

EBoost is simply too difficult to set and has too many features for anyone to use or likely yo use.

Any of the Jap branded dual solenoide will work very well too and still cheaper than Eboost. I not dissing Eboost, but its too difficult to setup for the average joe :(

True as George states e-boost 2 quite complicated IMO

I've started to read the manual and I'm not a stupid guy by any means but dam its sure confusing


thanks for that dude!
im not really worried about setting it up as the mechanic will do that when it goes in for the re tune...
the tuner (adrian @ TODA) actually said the Eboost2 was the best EBC hes dealt with thats why im leaning toward that...
Im after an EBC that will be reliable, that i can have 2 or 3 boost settings and will run my motor the best :D

But if Adrian's config it who give'a Fuk lol

Its the best and can fix any boost problems

[Boost]

EB2 is very easy to use. The features on the EB2 is more than enough and can do everything you want in a controller. Read the manual. It should be a light read ( i know cause i help write it & test all its functions).

[Lukezen27]

EB2 is very easy to use. The features on the EB2 is more than enough and can do everything you want in a controller. Read the manual. It should be a light read ( i know cause i help write it & test all its functions).

lol

help write it means you understand it better than the average jo

[CRXer]

how u sposed to understand it luke,if u only just started reading it?lol

the only thing hard about the eboost is trying to remember what all the little 3 letter abbreviations are for.
be good if it had a pc connection & u could go thru & set it up on the pc.

[Lukezen27]

how u sposed to understand it luke,if u only just started reading it?lol

the only thing hard about the eboost is trying to remember what all the little 3 letter abbreviations are for.
be good if it had a pc connection & u could go thru & set it up on the pc.

Yeah the > & < back forth crap is a bit annoying but stopped reading once Adrian configed anyway...

Still there's an e-boost 2 setup function that helps spool times that I'd like to know lol

[CRXer]

my bro-in-law asked me to help him setup his & its not too bad when u have a manual on paper when setting up,but then he went & lost the friken manual 6 months later & jeez it gives u the shits tryin to scroll back & forward on a pdf manual tryin to remember all the abbreviations,
they should have em all listed on one page that u can tear out & have next to the page your reading or somethin

[VTi_b0i]

opinions? lol eboost2 worth the extra cash> :p

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Guys ive never installed the eboost so i cant compare but i think any boost controller with the 3 digit 8 crystal LCD display is just a b1tch. The gizzmo is very similar.

Gizzmo was soo bloody easy to install. Took me less than 30 mins to have it mounted and online.

But major downfall is the Manual. I more usefull to wipe my ass with. It doesnt have real info on it, theres just these stupid flow diagrams to work yourself around the menu's with the 3 digit display.

All in all im fairly happy with the gizzmo but for the extra 50-100 i would have paid for the eboost street forsure. As its similar to the gizzmo but a known brand.

[Lukezen27]

Guys ive never installed the eboost so i cant compare but i think any boost controller with the 3 digit 8 crystal LCD display is just a b1tch. The gizzmo is very similar.

Gizzmo was soo bloody easy to install. Took me less than 30 mins to have it mounted and online.

But major downfall is the Manual. I more usefull to wipe my ass with. It doesnt have real info on it, theres just these stupid flow diagrams to work yourself around the menu's with the 3 digit display.

All in all im fairly happy with the gizzmo but for the extra 50-100 i would have paid for the eboost street forsure. As its similar to the gizzmo but a known brand.

How smooth it holds boost will be the real test

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How smooth it holds boost will be the real test

Yeh...

When i do my complete tune and fix the fuel issue ill work it all out and then the we'll see how it goes. If doesnt hold up then "catchya later" ill install a eboost street.