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Benson
13-07-2009, 09:01 AM
Special Projects Motor Sports USA is pleased to announce that it will be a major sponsor
and supporter of Jimmy and Benny Tran’s B20 Powered Civic which will be competing in the Australian
Honda Challenge
The Tran Brothers Team will receive product support, and the full backing and expertise our race shop
facilities for the 2009/10 season.
The GEAR-X Precision Driveline Components logo will be predominant on the car as Special Projects is
the world wide distributor of the new and very popular line of Honda Final Drives and Custom Gear sets.
As the sales of the new GEAR-X products have been so encouraging in the USA since 2000 we want to
introduce these great products to the Australian Road Race Market.

HARDRACE is another of our imported brands that Special Projects promote and distribute with great
success in the USA. These well known performance products will also be part of the Sponsorship package.
With the recent introduction of our range of P1 Spec Aero and suspension parts and as the demand for
Special Projects expertise and Race proven parts has been increasing every month from successful racing
teams in the UK and Europe, we are carrying on our tradition of putting something back into the sport by
assisting new young drivers.

For 2009 we have chosen to give our backing to these enthusiastic brothers based on their very professional
approach to their racing career; Their car has been constructed with very careful attention to detail, and their
approach to our company and others with regard to obtaining sponsorship has been of the highest level. The
brother’s proposal to our company quickly demonstrated that they were not just another race team looking
for free stuff!

This team is already proving itself with subsequent Class wins and high placings over much more experienced teams.
“After studying Benson the Driver’s on the track, and in car video’s, I have no doubt that with some competitive
seat time behind him Benson will be a driving force to be reckoned with.”
“I believe I am a good judge of talent evidenced by some of the drivers our company has assisted in the past”.
Said Jeff (Kiwi) Owen -Gear-X Director, expatriate Kiwi and well known US Honda Touring Car Driver.
“Every year I keep an eye on who’s who, and which drivers are worthy of whatever assistance we can offer based
on their driving ability and more importantly their personality, how they conduct themselves on and off the track,
and of course how well they promote their existing sponsors.”

GEAR-X is quickly becoming “the Name” in performance transmission components in Honda Touring Car Racing
in almost every outstanding Honda in the United States Honda Challenge, to the Irish Tarmac Rally scene, to
the short sprint circuits of Guatemala in Central America. And now we are pleased to be entering the Australian
Honda performance arena.
GEAR-X is also a major sponsor of Al Stewart (Big Al) who is competing very successfully in the New Zealand
version of Honda Challenge (SS2000).

On behalf of Special Projects Motor Sports/GEAR-X and all the other sponsors on these projects We would like
to wish all of our sponsored teams, and all the competitors Good Luck, and have a great 2009 racing season.


Sincerely,
Janie G. Henke


MERIDIAN HOLDINGS/GEAR-X
Export Sales & Marketing

DvS-
13-07-2009, 09:55 AM
well done guys. well earnt. hope to see more record smashing laps in the 09/10 season. keep up the great work. :)

cymax
13-07-2009, 10:11 AM
Well done! You guys deserves it!

pchio
13-07-2009, 10:19 AM
Woot!
Good work lads

Slaz
13-07-2009, 10:40 AM
Delt with Jeff a few times in the past and is a great bloke, its good to see him getting back on his feet again as i know 1st hand what its like the have the carpet pulled from you all of a sudden.

Sure his racing experience will be much appreciated by you guys, next year will be a really good year of racing, supersprints was always going to bring this to oz, but it was always going to take time, you boys and Leonard have set the example for the class, its a shame Leonard hasnt had his share of luck this season though, well done. :thumbsup:

I will ask though, what is the Australian Honda Challenge, is this a new class being formed or just them being mistaken or comparing supersprints to their class? ) also who are the more experinced race teams you are competing against to, all the 5 or so honda's out there are relatively new comers to the sport , really, you boys have spent the most money and time this year in your class, and it shows, but the car is far from back yard anymore isnt it, you've really stepped up this year and the times are on the board.:thumbsup:

string
13-07-2009, 10:44 AM
I tried to get some parts from Jeff which he didn't have in stock. After weeks of telling me they're on the next shipment he simply stopped replying. Strange business model...

Slaz
13-07-2009, 10:46 AM
How long ago was that Mark, like i mentioned, he was in the wars for a while there.

string
13-07-2009, 10:48 AM
April this year. He did mention that he was very busy so I don't hold it against him.

kriZy
13-07-2009, 10:54 AM
Congratulations boys. Good luck racing!

DR HONDA
13-07-2009, 11:17 AM
Well done. Sponsorship is so hard to get :thumbsup:

EG5
13-07-2009, 01:39 PM
Congrats with the sponsorship

Benson
13-07-2009, 01:40 PM
I will ask though, what is the Australian Honda Challenge, is this a new class being formed or just them being mistaken or comparing supersprints to their class? ) also who are the more experinced race teams you are competing against to, all the 5 or so honda's out there are relatively new comers to the sport , really, you boys have spent the most money and time this year in your class, and it shows, but the car is far from back yard anymore isnt it, you've really stepped up this year and the times are on the board.:thumbsup:

I think Jeff meant Honda Challenge is the supersprint series.

Jeff has been real nice and supportive of what we are doing here in Australia. He has taken this opportunity to further help the team as well as promote the new GEAR-X product line to the Australian market. His epxertise in racing will expand our knowledge on car set-up. Its evident that the Honda Motorsport market is slowly growing and its a great opportunity to have another reputable brand and porduct line in the market

The car is still very backyard, our times has been achieved with the same old set-up with a few tweaks here and there. New products are being recieved from Jeff @ Special Project in the next couple of months to further developed the car. Feedback is given by both parties on which ratios and gearing is ideal to suit the Australian track. Its not simply getting all these product and using them with less effect. I do believe our car has a cheaper build list compared to our competitors. Dollar money is not what we compare, its the lap times that counts. Cost in regards to our civic, has been efficient and effective with every change has seen the car gone quicker and quicker. We have already proved the limits of all parts on the car

The new products from our sponsors with a plan of a bigger motor set-up towards the end of the year from our good mate Dave Flood will be a step forward to compete in the 2010 Supersprint Series for OUTRIGHT points in the Championship

82911
13-07-2009, 01:48 PM
Congratulations on the new PB on the weekend.
Hope there wasn't too much damage to the car after you pulled it out of the tyre wall?

Cheers Greg..

Benson
13-07-2009, 01:52 PM
Car is fine, just needs a few new panels and the car will be ready for next Round in 3 weeks

jords
13-07-2009, 02:47 PM
Congrats Tran brothers. You guys have done well without sponsors, I look forward to seeing you do even better with some support.

Good to see BYP still battling yesterday after your minor incident.

Did you record a new PB? Was it in the last session?

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

fatboyz39
13-07-2009, 02:52 PM
Congrats Tran brothers. You guys have done well without sponsors, I look forward to seeing you do even better with some support.

Good to see BYP still battling yesterday after your minor incident.

Did you record a new PB? Was it in the last session?

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Thanks Jords.

Nah didnt reset the record which was set earlier in the day. Too many aerodynamics parts got damage and we never recovered. New record and P.B set @ 1.18.2. :thumbsup:

fatboyz39
13-07-2009, 02:56 PM
you boys have spent the most money and time this year in your class, and it shows, but the car is far from back yard anymore isnt it, you've really stepped up this year and the times are on the board.:thumbsup:

Did we really spend the most money and time? Backyard racers dont have massive budget or time. Full time work and full time studies dont leave alot of time to play with cars. Dont know where you pulling info from. We roll on 2nd hand tyres given from the IPRA guys. Budget racing ftw.:thumbsup:

Its a shame to see the toda/mfactory car giving up this yr. Guess they cant win the championship now so might as well not show up? Hope they come back bigger and better for next yr. :thumbsup:

fatboyz39
13-07-2009, 03:32 PM
April this year. He did mention that he was very busy so I don't hold it against him.

He is a busy man. We dont get a reply from emails for a few days. What parts were you after?

Slaz
13-07-2009, 03:37 PM
Did we really spend the most money and time? Backyard racers dont have massive budget. Dont know where you pulling info from. We roll on 2nd hand tyres given from the IPRA guys. Budget racing ftw.:thumbsup:

Its a shame to see the toda/mfactory car giving up this yr. Guess they cant win the championship now so might as well not show up? Hope they come back bigger and better for next yr. :thumbsup:

Hahahahaha, there's always sour grapes isnt there Jimmy?

There is alot of money spent in supersprint, weather they are backyard or not, it costs to race, but then most hobbies cost.

Thats great you can get used rubber from some irpa boys, sprints allow that with only 2 fast laps per race and not many sessions for the day.

Well maybe its hasnt cost YOU that much money when you dont own the new engine, but the parts are on the car, the engine/box change amongst other parts that are different from last year have obviousily done their job, well done.

Leonard as far as im aware just replaced his front brakes and has spent most of his time trying to get the weight out, which when starting life as a VTI wouldnt be easy, he hasnt touched his driveline since last season and has been unlucky with the car and with a new child and work commitments, guess some people have different priorities at times, but you can read into that however you want, but thats what im lead to believe.

I was mearly asking questions out of interest whilst giving you credit for Benny's efforts behind the wheel, his driving and the car has come along way.

Im sure a a few cars next year will be bigger and better, looking forward to it. ;)

Once again, well done. :thumbsup:

fatboyz39
13-07-2009, 03:54 PM
Alot of money spent on supersprint? Come on, you can drive a stock shitbox and still race. Just dependent how much your willing to spend and be SMART on what and when to spend on.


We dont own the engine? Who says? We DO own the engine. Funny how you cross wires with something else. Driveline different? Same old if not we went backward by installing a ITR gearbox back in. Oh you thought we were running close gear set, final drive, clunking LSD? :confused::confused: Mayb i dont know my car well enough:zip:

LOL using from a VTi base. Whats that gotta do with anything. We started off a a SI base? Do we have a upper hand somehow?

"Thats great you can get used rubber from some irpa boys, sprints allow that with only 2 fast laps per race and not many sessions for the day."

:confused::confused::confused::confused:

Mayb you should have a steer with the Toda/Mfactory EG, since Leo is busy with work and kid.

Slaz
13-07-2009, 04:36 PM
Alot of money spent on supersprint? Come on, you can drive a stock shitbox and still race. Just dependent how much your willing to spend and be SMART on what and when to spend on.


We dont own the engine? Who says? We DO own the engine. Funny how you cross wires with something else. Driveline different? Same old if not we went backward by installing a ITR gearbox back in. Oh you thought we were running close gear set, final drive, clunking LSD? :confused::confused: Mayb i dont know my car well enough:zip:

LOL using from a VTi base. Whats that gotta do with anything. We started off a a SI base? Do we have a upper hand somehow?

"Thats great you can get used rubber from some irpa boys, sprints allow that with only 2 fast laps per race and not many sessions for the day."

:confused::confused::confused::confused:

Mayb you should have a steer with the Toda/Mfactory EG, since Leo is busy with work and kid.

Settle Petal. :mad:

I really dont want to spam this thread with all of this but what, are you saying that decent amounts of money arnt spent by people who compete in the supersprint series, breakdowns and part failures, discs,pads,tyres, fuel be it unleaded or E85, wheel alignments, dyno tuning and other changes made throughout the season to make their cars quicker?

Well spent money is always better then stupid spent money, think i learnt that buying lollies as a 5 yr old. :confused:

Sorry, i was of the opinon that Dave was the engine owner seeing he said he was all over Hondatech when you boys posted up your results on there and thought you were concentrating on the chassis and Dave was handelling the powerplant side of things.

http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2488946&highlight=uncle+dave

I didnt know if you had a close ratio gear set of not, but the itr box would have given you great results seeing you had the 4.9 FD in the old box and now had a 2.0 instead of a 1.6 ltr, i wouldnt be suprised if you have a higher final drive fitted considering the torque and weight of the car as it stands.

Yes you do have an advantage starting with an SI, for starters it never came fitted with a sunroof nor the extra chassis bracing the vti recieved due to the big hole they cut in the roof, not to mention the earlier models having a thinner and much lighter firewall due to noise regulations introduced into the japenese car market around 93ish i believe, add that to you've been running cageless and benny eats no where near as much food as Leonard, and it would be up there, id love to see the 2 cars on the scales actually, Leonard and you havnt been secretive with your power outputs and they are very similar so it would be interesting to know.

In regards to tyres, if you can get them used from a racer, you can fit them knowing they are going to get you through a day of racing without any problems seeing you were so confused by that comment.

Only thing stopping me from getting to the track has been a recent car accident i had and the health issues ive had due to it, but hopefully 1 day, ill be out there with you all, until then, i like keeping an eye on everyone involved be it Troy,Dave,James,Leonard and Benny.

Like i said, you really do read into things the wrong way Jimmy and Benny doesnt for some reason, get your back up when you dont need to, everything i write is coming from whats available for everyone to read online. :wave:

I'll leave it at that.

FLICK
13-07-2009, 04:52 PM
wow! Didn't know how competitive it is out there. Entertaining at most.

e240
13-07-2009, 05:11 PM
Jimmy,

This thread is to celebrate your success and you should keep it to that. Really, while there may be competitive rivalry between us, as hard as it may be for you to believe, I am actually happy for you - in setting the new records, and because of your ages (or Benson's at least), you may actually have the opportunity to go alot further than I or most ppl here may have.

For myself, I've only ever started circuit driving less than 3 years ago and for what I've achieved, I'm proud. I'm very glad to have had Adrian's support along the way (Especially when he doesn't have to) and I am very much obligated to return the favours. If you or any others have any illusions that that we're some form of professional race team, I have to admit, whilst I am very flattered, it is far from the truth. Toda is a small performance tuning shop thats working hard to survive in this small competitive market. Everytime Adrian works on my car, he gives up revenue earning opportunities - and if you've never had to support a young family, you don't know how difficult this is. As such, given a paying customers car or my car, the choice is a no brainer - even it it means sacrificing testing times to be competitive. This is how we've actually been operating over the last season and this year. Fortunately, Adrian is very good at what he does and keeps me competitive despite my lack of experience.

Its not a matter of giving up - You do realise this is just grassroots motorsports right? There are no professional teams here - and a lot of us have our day jobs, families and businesses to run. Our priorities and budget do not lie in being the quickest or getting the be the quickest - its a nice benefit if we did but most of us certainly do not pull out all stops to get fast - But if you do, like yourselves, then of course you deserve to win.

Seriously, unlike yourselves, these 2 seasons, I've only took 1 testing day at Oran park early this year because I was so rusty after not having driven the car for almost 6 months since the last season. Last year, we never did any testing at all - All our "testings" were done during the competitive runs itself. Look, talking up your wins and downplaying your commitment is fine if you want to make yourselves look good because at the end of the day, you only answer to yourself. Am I pissed at losing to you guys this year? Of course I am - which racer likes to lose? If we liked losing, we won't bother racing would we? If you liked losing, would you have bothered to step up your game? Unfortunately I haven't been able to commit this year and in this game, commitment wins, Benson and yourselves have shown that commitment both time wise and financially, so of course you deserve to win.

Honestly, my engine is no more expensive than anyone who would build a proper engine. The parts are all off the shelf, nothing custom. The difference is that Adrian built my engine (and has done a darn fine job) - I don't have the knowledge to do this properly, nor have the time to learn. I do however, prep the rest of the car myself, including mechanical installations and repairs - So how do you define backyard? I'm definately not a Mechanic/Technician by trade. Having fancy stickers on the car doesn't make me a professional racer does it? It was done more so because the grass roots "race cars" are so drab from the scene in SG/Malaysia, I'd though I'd add a little colour. It does make the car look good. LOL.

For the record, we've pulled the car from these rounds because of a head issue - You might not know that our "big expense" engine still uses the B16A from a damaged B16A from my first engine transplant. There were already inherent issues (You would've heard of our coolant overflow issues) with the head but we risked it anyway because we were on a budget. So rather than hastily piece something together, we've decided to do this properly - to do this properly takes time, and Adrian and myself currently don't have the time - hence, the car is just sitting there. Adrian and myself do like to spend our evenings with our family and babies you know - not working on cars..LOL.

We'll be back definately, and we'll give you the run. For my part, given the effort put into the events, I think we're doing a darn fine job. In parting, here's a little present for you. :-)

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h186/e240_a/_-39.jpg


p.s. that clunking LSD? 3rd hand ATS unit got with a swap. LOL Will get a more expensive plate MFactory one next time, I promise! :-)

e240
13-07-2009, 05:25 PM
...and benny eats no where near as much food as Leonard,

I just read this! FU Slaz! Are you saying I'm Fat?!!c LOL :p:p:p

cymax
13-07-2009, 05:36 PM
Jimmy,

This thread is to celebrate your success and you should keep it to that. Really, while there may be competitive rivalry between us, as hard as it may be for you to believe, I am actually happy for you - in setting the new records, and because of your ages (or Benson's at least), you may actually have the opportunity to go alot further than I or most ppl here may have.

For myself, I've only ever started circuit driving less than 3 years ago and for what I've achieved, I'm proud. I'm very glad to have had Adrian's support along the way (Especially when he doesn't have to) and I am very much obligated to return the favours. If you or any others have any illusions that that we're some form of professional race team, I have to admit, whilst I am very flattered, it is far from the truth. Toda is a small performance tuning shop thats working hard to survive in this small competitive market. Everytime Adrian works on my car, he gives up revenue earning opportunities - and if you've never had to support a young family, you don't know how difficult this is. As such, given a paying ......

*Clap* *Clap*

Well said :thumbsup:

Slaz
13-07-2009, 05:58 PM
I just read this! FU Slaz! Are you saying I'm Fat?!!c LOL :p:p:p

Hahahaha, well compared to Benny, yes you are. Must be all the home cooking and long hours your doing, start training tiger! :eek::p;)!

Lukezen27
13-07-2009, 06:16 PM
That's awesome guys :)

Well done :thumbsup:

zco
13-07-2009, 06:22 PM
good work guys ! always room for improvement

honda_b_blastn
13-07-2009, 07:10 PM
congrats guys..would love to see your car around QR someday

Benson
13-07-2009, 11:54 PM
All i can say is that im very happy that our achievements are being recognised and with the new sponsorship from SPM, it has certainly given us some kind of recognition

With regards to our rivals and competition, im at the stage where i don't care about the Class Championship anymore. Its already in the bag for this year and will be focusing on bigger goals and ambitions in the 2010 championship which will be trying to win OUTRIGHT 1st in the Championship. We are stepping it up with the big boys now, challenging the WRX, EVO's and the R35 GTR's. Its up to our Honda rivals whether they can keep up or beat us :p

I am sure our lap records at all 3 circuit will be hard to beat. It will be good to see another Honda that can compete at the same speed and level with us. That is something that will be worth competing. :)

B20NA
14-07-2009, 12:05 AM
[ im at the stage where i don't care about the Class Championship anymore. Its already in the bag for this year and will be focusing on bigger goals and ambitions in the 2010 championship which will be trying to win OUTRIGHT 1st in the Championship. We are stepping it up with the big boys now, challenging the WRX, EVO's and the R35 GTR's. Its up to our Honda rivals whether they can keep up or beat us :p

I am sure our lap records at all 3 circuit will be hard to beat. It will be good to see another Honda that can compete at the same speed and level with us. That is something that will be worth competing. :)[/QUOTE]

Are you sure your name isnt Anthony CHOC Mundine because your blowing your own horn, your car is quick and its best that you do the talking on the track, Just remember those who blow there horn to loud eventually blow out of breath..

Im sure others that put the time and effort you do can run quicker than your car, its just your competitors arn't doing this.

zco
14-07-2009, 12:20 AM
if they want to boast, then let them boast. im sure they have earnt the right to do so if they wanted to.. they can back it up with what they've achieved

tension and competition is always good, but putting others down on their achievements is not required.

Benson
14-07-2009, 08:16 AM
I can talked it up all i want. Im trying to make our competitors feel the urge to be more competitive.

I hate all these lame excuses on the previous post, hence my reply

I know where our car is heading and there is still heaps more in it

Cooker
14-07-2009, 08:57 AM
Totally agree Benny, if you have lap records that proves you ARE the best so until it is beaten say what you want :D
The Lap Record means that in the history of the class you race in, NO other car has set a time faster then the time that you have set!!!!

If people think you should just humbly say "oh I set the lap record, how I do not know, must'nt of been my driving or car setup, I have no idea, its a shock" then they should get of Gran Turismo and the forums and onto the track.

If other poeple reckon you are "blowing your horn" then they are just people that will never set lap records and don't understand how much work goes into setting a fast time compared to a lap record time.

You have set the lap record, you probably own the fastest street registered civic in Oz so congratulations.
Come over to W.A next year for the IPC nationals and we will see how you fair against the best IPC cars in OZ and our own tribe of street reg civic lap record holders and our own IPC civic lap record holder ;)

Cooker
14-07-2009, 09:01 AM
This is GOLD!!




Im sure others that put the time and effort you do can run quicker than your car, its just your competitors arn't doing this.

???????? WHO GOES RACING AND DOESN'T TRY!!!!!
Haha imagine that at an F1 press conferance.
MEDIA: So Ferrari why do you suck in F1 this year.
FERRARI: Oh we just can't be bothered putting in time and effort.

jords
14-07-2009, 11:13 AM
This thread doesn't need knockers, in-fact this forum has several members who enjoy knocking or belittling people for their achievements. Funny thing is that it always seems to be the same people stirring shit.

The BYP EG's results speak for themselves.

It has been proven on the track, last season it was all coming together and this season they have dominated their class.

Keep it up boys!

Benson
14-07-2009, 11:55 AM
This thread doesn't need knockers, in-fact this forum has several members who enjoy knocking or belittling people for their achievements. Funny thing is that it always seems to be the same people stirring shit.

The BYP EG's results speak for themselves.

It has been proven on the track, last season it was all coming together and this season they have dominated their class.

Keep it up boys!

Thanks Jords..

Isnt funny how the same people question our car and what it has and make up lame excuse as to why they aint as quick.. I guess people are slowly going to catch on like you have.

They must think we spent over 50k on the car :confused:

B20NA
14-07-2009, 12:51 PM
I am not knocking there achivements, what i am knocking is his EGO, do you see roger feder say im this and no 1 is better than me and im just too good.

Tai
14-07-2009, 01:08 PM
fast eg !

jords
14-07-2009, 01:12 PM
I am not knocking there achivements, what i am knocking is his EGO, do you see roger feder say im this and no 1 is better than me and im just too good.
Why is Anthony Mundine so hated, because all he does is blow his own horn, bensen when your on top you stay level headed and work to be faster, don't go saying there is no real competition anymore, were a class above the rest, im the best so f--k the rest.

Im sure you will see some competition next year and i hope you don't eat ya words.

For your achivements well done for your EGO you suck.

Roger who?

Federer..... blah! :zip:

Sir_vtec
14-07-2009, 01:13 PM
Congratulations with the sponsorship :thumbsup:

Lukezen27
14-07-2009, 01:22 PM
Un-subscripted due to kooks :o

Benson
14-07-2009, 01:38 PM
I am not knocking there achivements, what i am knocking is his EGO, do you see roger feder say im this and no 1 is better than me and im just too good.
Why is Anthony Mundine so hated, because all he does is blow his own horn, bensen when your on top you stay level headed and work to be faster, don't go saying there is no real competition anymore, were a class above the rest, im the best so f--k the rest.

Im sure you will see some competition next year and i hope you don't eat ya words.

For your achivements well done for your EGO you suck.

I didnt say anywhere i was the best. I only said those things due to the fact that our competitor are making up lame excuses to hide the truth. I dont need to bring it up as there isnt to compare between the two cars. I know whats done to mine, and i know whats done to their's. Now whateva they disclose on the web which isnt true, i havent question or comment on it. Why? Im not childish and dont need to have a whinge about it

A Class above the rest? Well, whats the point in competing in the same class where we are 2-3seconds quicker? Im thinking of bigger plans, goals and ambition to move forward.

You havent spoken or have seen me race at an event, so who are you to judge? Go speak around the paddock one day when you have the chance and see what other guys think of me. I don't go out bagging out my competitors for coming 2nd 3rd or last.

So before you make another post, you should grow up. Then again its ozhonda. Only a minority of members on here have a brain

Benson
14-07-2009, 01:39 PM
fast eg !

For your interest, we havent advertise the GEAR-X or Hardrace product. We have merely annouces our new sponsors

tinkerbell
14-07-2009, 02:16 PM
You havent spoken or have seen me race at an event, so who are you to judge? Go speak around the paddock one day when you have the chance and see what other guys think of me.

mate, the comments i get back about your team at the track (as well as all our JSCC members) are nothing less than 100% positive,

it is sad that people who have probably never tracked before can't recognise that the BYP team has done so well - simply due to their petty ignorance of the situation...

i think setting your goals high (as you have by aiming at the OUTRIGHT championship) is very very admirable!

congrats on the sponsorship - it will probably help you go even quicker than most of the EVO's and WRX's!!!

i must note that BYP were not the only team to goto the next level for 3B, with Leonard's Civic being very close behind you all year.

the positives impacts that both of your teams has had on the supersprinting scene is undisputable!

05dc5S
14-07-2009, 02:31 PM
All i can say is that im very happy that our achievements are being recognised and with the new sponsorship from SPM, it has certainly given us some kind of recognition

With regards to our rivals and competition, im at the stage where i don't care about the Class Championship anymore. Its already in the bag for this year and will be focusing on bigger goals and ambitions in the 2010 championship which will be trying to win OUTRIGHT 1st in the Championship. We are stepping it up with the big boys now, challenging the WRX, EVO's and the R35 GTR's. Its up to our Honda rivals whether they can keep up or beat us :p

I am sure our lap records at all 3 circuit will be hard to beat. It will be good to see another Honda that can compete at the same speed and level with us. That is something that will be worth competing. :)

I will sponsor you with racetape when you beat that R35GTR ;)

CRXer
14-07-2009, 02:46 PM
I am not knocking there achivements, what i am knocking is his EGO, do you see roger feder say im this and no 1 is better than me and im just too good.
Why is Anthony Mundine so hated, because all he does is blow his own horn, bensen when your on top you stay level headed and work to be faster, don't go saying there is no real competition anymore, were a class above the rest, im the best so f--k the rest.

Im sure you will see some competition next year and i hope you don't eat ya words.

For your achivements well done for your EGO you suck.

exactly why sport in general is becoming so boring these days to watch......

press conference with roger federer........yawn.......
its lucky for him,he has a lot to show on court or he'd be easily forgotten.....

nothing wrong with a bit of shit stirring, especially on the net,along as it doesnt get too personal,promotes some healthy competition & gives us all something interesting to read,thank god....
Tran bros are 2 of the most pleasant,helpful people u'll ever have a chat to down at the track,same goes for the TODA crew,im sure all the rest of u are just as pleasant to meet as well...

young family & a business to maintain is an absolutely huge commitment benny,hope thats not the excuses your pointing out,maybe im reading in to that wrong,but thats getting on the personal side,keep the shit stirring to the cars & drivers,thats the fun stuff we all want to read,lol.

2002 TeGgY
14-07-2009, 02:48 PM
well done boys, and congrates on the sponsership...keep it up

DvS-
14-07-2009, 02:49 PM
I will sponsor you with racetape when you beat that R35GTR ;)

will you sponsor me too kieran? hehe :wave:

fatboyz39
14-07-2009, 03:04 PM
LOL @ race tape. That was holding the front bar up @ 200km haha.

e240
14-07-2009, 04:05 PM
I only said those things due to the fact that our competitor are making up lame excuses to hide the truth.

Benson,

Honestly, you need to let this go man and just enjoy your success. I am happy for you, I really am.

You can say whatever you want, fact of the matter is, the car is just not ready and thats the truth. We're not going to rush this just because you're lonely in the playground. You'll just have to go play with yourself for a while.

Benson
14-07-2009, 07:36 PM
Benson,

Honestly, you need to let this go man and just enjoy your success. I am happy for you, I really am.

You can say whatever you want, fact of the matter is, the car is just not ready and thats the truth. We're not going to rush this just because you're lonely in the playground. You'll just have to go play with yourself for a while.

Im not refering to your engine problems, but merely the comments that Slaz has been making.

No need to rush you back, i got other goals to achieve now. I have moved playgrounds :p

zco
14-07-2009, 08:08 PM
i think thats what leo has already done..

Cooker
14-07-2009, 08:12 PM
Oh ok my bad. I take that back. Deleted previous post.
Sorry

geeang
14-07-2009, 08:15 PM
These guys are great at the track, you might think they talk big but they're spouting facts, facts that can be backed up with hard-earned laptimes.

At the last Shift Performance Track day they were busy with their car and hitting the track for some serious laps, but they were more than happy to help some of the other guys who came to them asking for help/advice. Seeing the guys go out of their way to help others with tire pressures and setup tips was great, Jimmy even had a sit-in with the Shift EG after a request for some helpful tips around parts of Wakefield.

They can talk big, they've earned the right to and can back it up, but they're still down-to-earth guys in the end.

.::F[L]Y::.
14-07-2009, 08:21 PM
There will always be haters....

I think what the twins and others who are competiting in the SS series with their Hondas are doing a great thing. Leo's civic and the BYP civic are definately flying the honda flag proud and showing the guys who drive the 'bigger' cars that Hondas are not just P plater chariots or Hardparked nuggets.

Abit of friendly competition never hurts as it makes everyone else up their game, and ultimately become quicker. I think what ruins it are people who are not part of this SS series adding their uneccessary 2 cents.

End of the day, I think its a wonderful thing seeing hondas actively participate in track events, as the knowledge gained from racing will help others on the forum who wish to pursue this later down the track.

90LAN
14-07-2009, 08:27 PM
good work guys
getting bigger and better
so when you up in brisbane to race ?

fatboyz39
14-07-2009, 08:53 PM
good work guys
getting bigger and better
so when you up in brisbane to race ?

Mayb sometime end of the yr. Maybe if someone organises a QLD Honda trackday then we'll more then likely to attend.

DR HONDA
14-07-2009, 08:56 PM
Y::.;2353879']There will always be haters....

I think what the twins and others who are competiting in the SS series with their Hondas are doing a great thing. Leo's civic and the BYP civic are definately flying the honda flag proud and showing the guys who drive the 'bigger' cars that Hondas are not just P plater chariots or Hardparked nuggets.

Abit of friendly competition never hurts as it makes everyone else up their game, and ultimately become quicker. I think what ruins it are people who are not part of this SS series adding their uneccessary 2 cents.

End of the day, I think its a wonderful thing seeing hondas actively participate in track events, as the knowledge gained from racing will help others on the forum who wish to pursue this later down the track.
Well said. Both good teams Toda/Leo had victory last year now its BYP turn this year. Haters move on and you know who the hell you are. The big question is who will it be in 2010?:thumbsup:

JDM.Power
14-07-2009, 09:12 PM
Well said. Both good teams Toda/Leo had victory last year now its BYP turn this year. Haters move on and you know who the hell you are. The big question is who will it be in 2010?:thumbsup:

:thumbsup: have someone in my mind already for 2010, will keep it quite tho,
as for everyone else geee so much hate.
the twins have done and awesome job, hard work has paid off!!
well done on the achievement !
lets not put a X Vs X thing this thread is about BYP civic achievements.

tinkerbell
14-07-2009, 09:40 PM
Well said. Both good teams Toda/Leo had victory last year now its BYP turn this year.

hey, don't forget - here is the full list:

2007 - tinkerbell - winner class 3B
2008 - e240 (Leonard) - winner class 3B
2009 - benson - currently leading class 3B


The big question is who will it be in 2010?:thumbsup:

there are some hot cars built/being built... just need to get their owners into it and competing :thumbsup:

and drivers getting sponsorship can only lead to bigger and better things for Honda's and racing!

barefootbonzai
14-07-2009, 10:35 PM
F uck all the haters! Good work guys. So many nut sacks on this site.

DR HONDA
15-07-2009, 12:40 PM
hey, don't forget - here is the full list:

2007 - tinkerbell - winner class 3B
2008 - e240 (Leonard) - winner class 3B
2009 - benson - currently leading class 3B



there are some hot cars built/being built... just need to get their owners into it and competing :thumbsup:

and drivers getting sponsorship can only lead to bigger and better things for Honda's and racing!

Sorry tinkerbell i forgot you lol :p its all good :thumbsup: noob at this circuit stuff

e240
15-07-2009, 01:36 PM
2007 - tinkerbell - winner class 3B


:thumbsup::thumbsup: Yes Tinks! Leading the way! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

dc2dc2dc2
15-07-2009, 01:39 PM
top work !!!!

dc2vtir
15-07-2009, 01:58 PM
congrats on putting together a great car and getting the sponsorship :)

javer81
15-07-2009, 02:15 PM
i was there to witness BYP being fast on track. its has been a great job put on by the brothers. will see them for the next round at EC. congrats to the sponsorship. all hard work needs to be complimented.

hopefully next year it will be a bigger scene at NSW SS.

fatboyz39
15-07-2009, 03:50 PM
Thanks guys. We'll update this thread with parts and progress on improvement.

BlitZ
15-07-2009, 05:13 PM
congratulations guys...

another win for BYP...

I want to sponsor u boys too..... you have PM?

Slaz
15-07-2009, 11:43 PM
Im not refering to your engine problems, but merely the comments that Slaz has been making.

No need to rush you back, i got other goals to achieve now. I have moved playgrounds :p

Im not a hater at all Benny, ive congratulated you in the past and now, im happy for you all.

But just because i said that alot more money has been spent on the car this season and that dave owned the engine as he has advertised on many a public forum, im a hater am i?

You competition between you and Leonard has been very close with your preperation, weight, and driving being the big differences between you both this season as you have similar power which wasnt the case last year.

I find it amusing people get upset as people just state facts.

So will it be 3B or are you prepping the car to step up a class for next year?

hussLEr
16-07-2009, 08:43 AM
Congrats Benny!

Still haven't been able to come out and spectate a race!..

Is EC next? if so, when?..Will clear my calendar =p

kriZy
16-07-2009, 09:36 AM
Congrats Benny!

Still haven't been able to come out and spectate a race!..

Is EC next? if so, when?..Will clear my calendar =p

i'll come by too if im free. never been to a track event.

tinkerbell
16-07-2009, 10:11 AM
EC round is on the 2nd of August: http://www.jscc.asn.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=1&Itemid=50&phpMyAdmin=jDNkkUl7J4uEWWXE8qRdMpVNyua

Benson
16-07-2009, 01:30 PM
Im not a hater at all Benny, ive congratulated you in the past and now, im happy for you all.

But just because i said that alot more money has been spent on the car this season and that dave owned the engine as he has advertised on many a public forum, im a hater am i?

You competition between you and Leonard has been very close with your preperation, weight, and driving being the big differences between you both this season as you have similar power which wasnt the case last year.

I find it amusing people get upset as people just state facts.

So will it be 3B or are you prepping the car to step up a class for next year?

Of course we have spent more money on the car to achieve this level of competition but its merely not that much as many people may think

We have been very smart of what parts to put in the car. Same as for sponsorship, we havent taken the full opportunity to get FREE products. We have done extensive research on our sponsors background and quality of product they are offering before approaching Jeff @ SPM

FYI, the BYP crew owns the engine package

As for staying in class 3B, i guess you guys will know next year :D

Limbo
16-07-2009, 03:09 PM
sorry noob question, but what is class 3b?

DvS-
16-07-2009, 03:22 PM
sorry noob question, but what is class 3b?

taken from SuperSprints (http://www.supersprints.com.au) website. :)


http://www.supersprints.com.au/rules-and-regulations/Vehicle%20Regs%202009.pdf

Limbo
16-07-2009, 04:42 PM
ahh got it

Competition vehicles based on 3J Club Cars rules as defined in the
CAMS Manual. Minor additional freedoms are allowed to recognise
that there will be some road-registered vehicles competing, that
cannot meet full 3J rules.

1.6-2.0LTR :)

Slaz
16-07-2009, 10:44 PM
Of course we have spent more money on the car to achieve this level of competition but its merely not that much as many people may think

We have been very smart of what parts to put in the car. Same as for sponsorship, we havent taken the full opportunity to get FREE products. We have done extensive research on our sponsors background and quality of product they are offering before approaching Jeff @ SPM

FYI, the BYP crew owns the engine package

As for staying in class 3B, i guess you guys will know next year :D

If anyone can get sponsorship then good luck to them as you guys have done, but all i was saying is that alot more money has been spent on the car this season to get it where it is, seems we agree here so i dont know why everyone got upset beforehand.

Its only due to dave's and your posts everywhere that i assumed the engine was owned by dave, reading what he has stated everywhere, could you blame me?

Looking forward to seeing the few new cars that are in the build and you guys with your sponsorship, but if your going to contend for outright points, beating open wheelers without slicks and more power is a big ask.

But that red EG and K series is always a possibility so ive heard.

Looking forward to seeing your results and the next season of racing, its all positive for the honda scene. :thumbsup:

tinkerbell
17-07-2009, 09:47 AM
but if your going to contend for outright points, beating open wheelers without slicks and more power is a big ask.


are you sure you know how fast the 'open wheelers' on slicks go?

http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results.cgi?12/07/2009.ORGP.S1

it is more the AWD cars that are the issue...

get rid of them and Benny would have been 4th outright on Sunday...

xtercii
17-07-2009, 10:45 AM
you guys are doing the honda scene proud, keep up the good works guys!!

BlitZ
17-07-2009, 12:15 PM
Mayb sometime end of the yr. Maybe if someone organises a QLD Honda trackday then we'll more then likely to attend.


why honda only.. scared of evos?..

geeang
17-07-2009, 12:22 PM
why honda only.. scared of evos?..

If they can beat 400kw R32 GTR's built for the track, and a GTR Supercar, then I doubt they'd be scared of evos.

[ricer]
17-07-2009, 12:56 PM
congratulations on the sponsorship benson and jimmy!

saw you guys on the weekend driving between a few evos and a skyline... civic still looked tough as!

fatboyz39
17-07-2009, 03:58 PM
why honda only.. scared of evos?..

HAHA..... ill bring my evo out to race ya! :thumbsup:

.::F[L]Y::.
17-07-2009, 06:59 PM
AYC is god....VTEC is nothing in comparison LOL

Cooker
17-07-2009, 08:51 PM
True a bombed Evo will be faster then a bombed civic.
Goes back to the old rule in general "The better the base car, the better the end result".
A standard Evo VS a standard EG6 hmmmm wonder what the outcome would be lol

A bombed EVO aka HKS all carbon fibre tskuba lap record beast VS the most bombed EG circuit car and you get the message.

Civics are the cheapest way to go fast. But once $$$ is no object then the civic gets left behind, not by much (I love my EG lol) but they do get left behind, albeit by cars costing more then 3 times in value though lol.

The EG civic, does a good effort in making the poor man stick it to the rich man.

BlitZ
17-07-2009, 09:47 PM
^^ so true.. but these 2 clowns makes me want to buy an EG and work it..

but lucky i know better.. to get the times these guys get.. you need 3 things ;money, patience and driving skills... I only have number 2....

So I now have an EVO... John is right. AYC is god

Slaz
18-07-2009, 10:52 AM
are you sure you know how fast the 'open wheelers' on slicks go?

http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results.cgi?12/07/2009.ORGP.S1

it is more the AWD cars that are the issue...

get rid of them and Benny would have been 4th outright on Sunday...

Well aware its not just the open wheelers but group the top end all together, and look at the rules that class 3B regarding mods done if its street registered or has a cams log book in terms of aerodynamic aids, carbon parts, wheels/tyres, suspension bushes fitted, cage/intrusion bars that are fitted be it log booked or registered ect and the added competion next year, running 3B within the rules is a handicap opposed to running open and being able to do what you want as its outright you wish to compete for as the boys have said.

fatboyz39
18-07-2009, 12:21 PM
True a bombed Evo will be faster then a bombed civic.
Goes back to the old rule in general "The better the base car, the better the end result".
A standard Evo VS a standard EG6 hmmmm wonder what the outcome would be lol

A bombed EVO aka HKS all carbon fibre tskuba lap record beast VS the most bombed EG circuit car and you get the message.

Civics are the cheapest way to go fast. But once $$$ is no object then the civic gets left behind, not by much (I love my EG lol) but they do get left behind, albeit by cars costing more then 3 times in value though lol.

The EG civic, does a good effort in making the poor man stick it to the rich man.

Well said :thumbsup:

Who knows we might build a EVO one day. We already got one in the family, just need to be modded :p

damo46
18-07-2009, 02:05 PM
If they can beat 400kw R32 GTR's built for the track, and a GTR Supercar, then I doubt they'd be scared of evos.

Those 400kw gtr owners must be driving blind folded....
I love civics but the gtr is the king

jords
18-07-2009, 05:43 PM
GTR is a heavy piece of shit.

Nissans suck.

damo46
18-07-2009, 10:32 PM
Stock gtr vs Stock Integra/civic type r... Gtr is the king of the track...
Mod for mod and the gtr will still be ontop...
I dont think youve been in a gtr around a track before to understand....
Thats why they were Banned from bathurst..... Anyways thats enuff spamming...

geeang
18-07-2009, 10:45 PM
Stock gtr vs Stock Integra/civic type r... Gtr is the king of the track...
Mod for mod and the gtr will still be ontop...
I dont think youve been in a gtr around a track before to understand....
Thats why they were Banned from bathurst..... Anyways thats enuff spamming...

Obviously, and also GTR is easily more than double the price of Integra/Civic Type R.

The 400kw GTR is at wakefield ALOT, it's built for a purpose, and the GTR supercar there was no slouch driver either.

Fact is, the BYP civic is a machine on the track, the g-forces in this EG even make passengers sick, sticking to the track with it's 9" contact patches.

.::F[L]Y::.
19-07-2009, 01:57 AM
In the GTR's defense...

Put things into perspective...if you spend the same amount of money you would have in trying to make a honda quick on a GTR, the GTR will demolish the Honda around the track. Also it comes down to track configuration...A 400KW car will probably be better suited to such tracks as EC as it can make use of the power down the long straight as oppose to a track like wakefield....

But this debate/topic should be for another thread :)

damo46
19-07-2009, 03:50 PM
Y::.;2359373']In the GTR's defense...

Put things into perspective...if you spend the same amount of money you would have in trying to make a honda quick on a GTR, the GTR will demolish the Honda around the track. Also it comes down to track configuration...A 400KW car will probably be better suited to such tracks as EC as it can make use of the power down the long straight as oppose to a track like wakefield....

But this debate/topic should be for another thread :)

Very Well said mate:thumbsup:

90LAN
19-07-2009, 04:30 PM
gtr is king
only while it is not playing up
races are won with reliable cars
not how fast it is
so saying that something thats is reliable and fast
something like the byp civic in this case

eg5civic
19-07-2009, 05:53 PM
Y::.;2359373']In the GTR's defense...

Put things into perspective...if you spend the same amount of money you would have in trying to make a honda quick on a GTR, the GTR will demolish the Honda around the track.

But this debate/topic should be for another thread :)


Haha sorry man but i have to stop you right there
I love GTR's, dont get me wrong but, you've just contradicted yourself

To buy an r34 gtr, would be more exspensive than to have built the BYP civic

Dollar for dollar, Civics still faster :thumbsup:

You dont have to defend the GTR, they are an awesome car, but face it, they do have weaknesses, ie a civic will beat a gtr in a gymkhana
Every car has their weaknesses an until i see a car that car destroy gymkhana's, tear up a circuit, and beat v8's down the strip theres no such thing as a perfect car

Each cars built for a purpose, and the BYP civic does its job well at Wakefield
Keep up the good work BYP boys

.::F[L]Y::.
19-07-2009, 08:27 PM
eg5civic: Of course an r34 gtr would cost more, but that wasnt my point, if you read my post again all that Im saying is that if you had a GTR and an EG civic as a base and spent say 15k on each car, the GTR will have gone further with that 15k.

Regarding gymkhana, that goes back to my point about track configuration. Obviously such a big car will find it hard around a small circuit or setup like those gymkhanas.

90LAN
19-07-2009, 08:33 PM
Y::.;2359893']eg5civic: Of course an r34 gtr would cost more, but that wasnt my point, if you read my post again all that Im saying is that if you had a GTR and an EG civic as a base and spent say 15k on each car, the GTR will have gone further with that 15k.

Regarding gymkhana, that goes back to my point about track configuration. Obviously such a big car will find it hard around a small circuit or setup like those gymkhanas.


what about a nsx and gtr
and spend 15k on each
so its a level paying field

a better comparison would for the civic would be eg6 and any front wheel drive hatch from that era
eg6 hands down

Benson
19-07-2009, 09:52 PM
Remember car is only a machine, you also need a good driver behind the wheel to actually steer the car around the track.

Im no pro at driving, i've only learnt the basic of car control and is slowly learning the track more as i attend more track days

Same applies for that GTR at Wakefield park, im sure if he gets more seat time and practice, that GTR will be weapon if driven properly and dial in right

eg5civic
19-07-2009, 10:15 PM
Y::.;2359893']eg5civic: Of course an r34 gtr would cost more, but that wasnt my point, if you read my post again all that Im saying is that if you had a GTR and an EG civic as a base and spent say 15k on each car, the GTR will have gone further with that 15k.

Regarding gymkhana, that goes back to my point about track configuration. Obviously such a big car will find it hard around a small circuit or setup like those gymkhanas.


It was your point
You stated if you spent what you did on the civic to make it keep up with a GTR, on the GTR it would beat a civic

Thats like saying, spend money on an r34gtr, to keep up with a Ferrari Enzo, then spend the same amount on the enzo and the enzo will be faster

Dollar for dollar, the civic performs better than the gtr on the circuit.. and i think thats what BYP is all about, Low costs, fast car

And in regards to the gymkhana then you cant say the gtr will hands down beat a civic no matter how much has been poured into it, cause every car has design flaws and limitations, and we can only modify the car to try and perfect these flaws

.::F[L]Y::.
19-07-2009, 10:48 PM
ok your right. GTR isnt good. I'm going to sell it and buy a civic hehe

Sooo who wants a nice black shiny r34 gtr?

ps: not gona side track this thread anymore haha

Benson
19-07-2009, 10:50 PM
pfft GTR, the cvic can cruise around the track and lap quicker time than your GTR:p

eg5civic
19-07-2009, 11:08 PM
Y::.;2360218']ok your right. GTR isnt good. I'm going to sell it and buy a civic hehe

Sooo who wants a nice black shiny r34 gtr?

ps: not gona side track this thread anymore haha

Why do nissan owners think their cars are the be all and end all.
Look i ****ing love GTR's, but i think your missing my point

GTR's are amazing pieces of machinery, but bang for buck, dollar for dollar, BYP have proved that you dont need to spend big dollars to be quick

End of the day they have built a circuit car that is highly competitive, and all for less than the price of what you'd pay for a bone stock gtr34

i'lll stop spamming now

fatboyz39
19-07-2009, 11:13 PM
Why do nissan owners think their cars are the be all and end all.
Look i ****ing love GTR's, but i think your missing my point

GTR's are amazing pieces of machinery, but bang for buck, dollar for dollar, BYP have proved that you dont need to spend big dollars to be quick

End of the day they have built a circuit car that is highly competitive, and all for less than the price of what you'd pay for a bone stock gtr34

i'lll stop spamming now


That is TRUE hahaha.... :thumbsup:

damo46
20-07-2009, 12:49 AM
BYP's civic is a track machine hands down for the dollar spent... also mentioning r34 gtr's.. who said you have to spen 50k on a r34 gtr when you can buy a r32 gtr for about 10-12k and spend a decent 10-15k and it will be a track weapon...
no body needs to spen 50k on a r34 gtr when you can just go for the r32, as for some of you that dont know, after the 33GTR, nissan went back to the R32 chasis which is the r34gtr because it was better...
Its the same thing as saying buying an eg and spending 20k on it or buying a new civic type r for $30k

Gtr was built for the track.. At the end of the day gtr mod for mod will win...
Although BYP civic is a weapon hands down though...
Lets see some more in car vids benny

FLICK
20-07-2009, 01:30 PM
Just go stick a RB26 into a eg civic. Now you can have the best of both worlds. People shouldnt be comparing GTR's and Hondas. But lets all face it we all wanted to own a GTR in our lifetime but we buy Hondas because there cheaper. You have to respect the GTR for what it is. Of the shelf Perfomance the honda civic eg shouldn't even be used in the same sentence as The GTR. Im sure is not BYP goal to chase down GTR's, im sure there out there concentrating on doing quick laptimes. The only person you should be racing is yourself.

hussLEr
20-07-2009, 05:55 PM
BYP's civic is a track machine hands down for the dollar spent... also mentioning r34 gtr's.. who said you have to spen 50k on a r34 gtr when you can buy a r32 gtr for about 10-12k and spend a decent 10-15k and it will be a track weapon...


Good point damo46...just have a look at Hi Octane's R32 (despite them spending more than 15k total on the vehicle). GTRs CAN perform when built right!

fatboyz39
20-07-2009, 08:25 PM
back on the topic ....... We'll be out 2nd August @ Eastern creek.

jords
20-07-2009, 08:39 PM
All back together boys for the next round?

fatboyz39
20-07-2009, 08:47 PM
All back together boys for the next round?

Nope havnt done nothing since last round. Where lazy buggers:p. Tuning booked in for some much needed tweaks. Mayb pull a few more horses.:thumbsup:

joyride
20-07-2009, 10:53 PM
ahh got it

Competition vehicles based on 3J Club Cars rules as defined in the
CAMS Manual. Minor additional freedoms are allowed to recognise
that there will be some road-registered vehicles competing, that
cannot meet full 3J rules.

1.6-2.0LTR :)
now i know whats going on.
so in the past 3 yrs, hondas have beaten other manufacturers? thats pretty effing good. good work to tinkerbell, e240 and benson/fatboyz39 for representing the honda community.

tinkerbell
21-07-2009, 10:12 AM
back on the topic ....... We'll be out 3rd August @ Eastern creek.

racing is on Monday?

you need to check the date if you want the points! otherwise Troy and I will be 1-2 :thumbsup:

fatboyz39
21-07-2009, 10:23 AM
racing is on Monday?

you need to check the date if you want the points! otherwise Troy and I will be 1-2 :thumbsup:


haahah my bad...

e240
21-07-2009, 11:11 AM
now i know whats going on.
so in the past 3 yrs, hondas have beaten other manufacturers? thats pretty effing good. good work to tinkerbell, e240 and benson/fatboyz39 for representing the honda community.

Thanks, but there were a number of teams already pushing the limits of Honda's in AU. Like Jacky Yik and Luis Chan. There are also a number of them lurking around here racing Honda's in the various racing series.

Benson
21-07-2009, 04:20 PM
racing is on Monday?

you need to check the date if you want the points! otherwise Troy and I will be 1-2 :thumbsup:

You guys will get the 1-2 next year :)

egSi
25-07-2009, 06:26 PM
congrats :thumbsup:

fatboyz39
31-07-2009, 07:43 AM
Quick update- Car was on the rollers @ inight motorsport for a much needed touch up tune (well it ended up to be a full tune:cool:) and see how much hp we loss over the the 6months of constant abuse.

We had found a few problems which was rectify, one of them we only had 80% throttle when the pedal was on the floor :eek::eek:
To our suprise the BYP b20vtec with new BYP ITB trumpets @100% throttle made 218.8hp atw -163 kw atw.:thumbsup: Not a bad effort for stock sleeves, stock unported ITR head.

kriZy
31-07-2009, 09:10 AM
163 kw atw! :eek:
amazing what a b20 can do.

tinkerbell
31-07-2009, 09:52 AM
amazing what a b20 can do.

once it is at full throttle, lol!

hussLEr
31-07-2009, 01:24 PM
Congrats Benny and Jimmy! :thumbsup:

163kwatw NA...gobsmacked!

2002 TeGgY
31-07-2009, 01:36 PM
awesome result!

fatboyz39
31-07-2009, 02:08 PM
163 kw atw! :eek:
amazing what a b20 can do.

if there built right:thumbsup:

jords
31-07-2009, 02:17 PM
Racing on sunday?

fatboyz39
31-07-2009, 02:22 PM
Racing on sunday?

yeah we'll be out there. It'll have a workout with me driving it as well.:wave:

FLICK
31-07-2009, 02:44 PM
stock aye? ;) Awesome number regardless. :thumbsup:

DR HONDA
31-07-2009, 03:07 PM
Quick update- Car was on the rollers @ inight motorsport for a much needed touch up tune (well it ended up to be a full tune:cool:) and see how much hp we loss over the the 6months of constant abuse.

We had found a few problems which was rectify, one of them we only had 80% throttle when the pedal was on the floor :eek::eek:
To our suprise the BYP b20vtec with new BYP ITB trumpets @100% throttle made 218.8hp atw -163 kw atw.:thumbsup: Not a bad effort for stock sleeves, stock unported ITR head.

New bench mark set for the B Series :thumbsup:. Scott Kuhner @ Insight Motorsports is very switched on.

FLICK
31-07-2009, 03:38 PM
New bench mark set for the B Series :thumbsup:. Scott Kuhner @ Insight Motorsports is very switched on.

You not wrong.

EG5
31-07-2009, 03:59 PM
Big power from B series:thumbsup:

Benson
31-07-2009, 04:14 PM
stock aye? ;) Awesome number regardless. :thumbsup:

Yeah stock sleeves and Stock ITR ports:). The rest of the engine who knows whats in it. :p

Scott and Dave did a very good job on the tune

Will let you guys know the result and top speed down the straight of EC

STiR
01-08-2009, 01:52 PM
Can't wait

fatboyz39
02-08-2009, 08:43 PM
Can't wait

So we decided to head out to Eastern Creek on the sat for some practice. Done a few shakedown laps to make sure everything was straight after a slight mishap @ oran park a few weeks back. Didnt get a clean track until late late in the arvo. At one stage there were about 45 cars on the track:thumbdwn:. We borrowed a performance box and threw it in for the last session of the day to see what top speeds it'll record. Down the straight manage it manage to hit 220km.:thumbsup:

FLICK
02-08-2009, 08:54 PM
What was the lap times? And how's the new found power treating ya?

fatboyz39
02-08-2009, 08:57 PM
Wait for the review thread.

STiR
02-08-2009, 11:01 PM
220km/h is very fast. I can't actually reach 220km/h with my gear ratios!

Cooker
02-08-2009, 11:19 PM
Yer 220kmh+ is mans territory :thumbsup:
Good stuff.

Anwyl
03-08-2009, 09:04 PM
Congrats with the sponsorship

fatboyz39
04-08-2009, 09:42 PM
220km/h is very fast. I can't actually reach 220km/h with my gear ratios!

LOL change FD?


Yer 220kmh+ is mans territory :thumbsup:
Good stuff.

Thanks. We still run standard ratios which is completely wrong for eastern creek. With our current size tyre and ratios we can potentially max out @ 280km/hr.

Congrats with the sponsorship

Thankyou :thumbsup: