Racing DC2R

[Genghis]

Hello folks I am currently racing a JDM DC2R in the NSW State Championships and thought I would join this forum to get a better understanding of the Honda community.

Cheers

Genghis:wave:

[xQuizit]

welcome sounds kool, where are the pics? lol

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

Welcome to Ozhonda.

Might I ask, is it red?

[IEVAQ8]

welcome, any pics and what mods?

[Moey.C]

pics pics pics

welcome mate

96 or 98 spec r ?

[CRXDEL501]

pics and mods would be sweet...

welcome.. im sure you'll love it.

even get us some vids :D

[Timmy_B]

Can't wait to see it and read bout it

[Moey.C]

umm wat exactly is the nsw state championship lol.. n wat division / category are you in.

flyweight in the R :P

[jords]

Welcome. Is that a CAMS NSW series?

[TODA AU]

Welcome.... Good to see another racer... :thumbsup:
My guess is you'd be #59 in the white JDM Front DC2R with green stipes - (NSW IPRA U2L)

[joyride]

welcome

[OMG.JAI xD]

Oh boy have you gone down the wrong alley.

Aint gonna come out alive. Choose a side now. JDM or sexspec lololol

welcome dude.. im just ball breakin =D

[Genghis]

Thanks for all the warm welcome and wishes. Yes the Toda guys are right it is the 97 JDM (yes the real deal) White with Green stripes running NSW Improved Production. Missed the first round but still doing ok with 2 rounds to go.

Close ratio box, adjustable rear sway bar (23mm) and Hondata ECU. Other than that, it's the way that it came from the factory.

Cheers

Genghis

[sab0r]

Thanks for all the warm welcome and wishes. Yes the Toda guys are right it is the 97 JDM (yes the real deal) White with Green stripes running NSW Improved Production. Missed the first round but still doing ok with 2 rounds to go.

Close ratio box, adjustable rear sway bar (23mm) and Hondata ECU. Other than that, it's the way that it came from the factory.

Cheers

Genghis

thats all the mods?

[TONTON]

^ Probably spec racing

[Genghis]

Other than safety gear (cage etc) that's all there is. It is actually log booked as a 3E Production car and not a 3J Improved Production.

I am about to replace the front rotors (cracked) with some slotted ones so I guess that is another mod for the next meeting.

Not spec racing, just gauging properly where the car 'fits' into the competition and then put a plan into play from there. It's a 2 year programme.

Genghis

[Red_EG4]

Other than safety gear (cage etc) that's all there is. It is actually log booked as a 3E Production car and not a 3J Improved Production.

I am about to replace the front rotors (cracked) with some slotted ones so I guess that is another mod for the next meeting.

Not spec racing, just gauging properly where the car 'fits' into the competition and then put a plan into play from there. It's a 2 year programme.

Genghis
Still on stock suspension?

[Genghis]

Sorry guys forgot about the Koni yellow adjustables and springs. I overlooked that because I still really count them as a sports shock rather than a full on race set.

Cheers

[jords]

Just out of curiosity what are your PB's at oran park, wakefield?

are you running stock intake? throttle? any fuel mods?

[Genghis]

Yes intake and exhaust manifolds are all stock. An oil catch / breather has been installed from the factory outputs but that is all I can see and the previous owner will have told me if there is anything else. In fact I am looking at selling the engine sometime soon.

Genghis

[joyride]

its interesting to see some OH members actively involved in the racing scene.
what tyres do you run on the track?

[Genghis]

We have a spec tyre for the series which is Yokohama A048

[Red_EG4]

Yes intake and exhaust manifolds are all stock. An oil catch / breather has been installed from the factory outputs but that is all I can see and the previous owner will have told me if there is anything else. In fact I am looking at selling the engine sometime soon.

Genghis

What will you be replacing the engine with?

[Genghis]

Another B18. One that has a bit of work done. The JDM R engine is such a nice piece of work that I don't want to stuff around with it when I can build up what I want from scratch. It means someone can drop it into their Civic etc as a going concern and then have a fast road car etc. As soon as you touch an engine like that you are breaking emissions laws etc etc.

Genghis

[jords]

If your gonna build something from scratch , have you considered doing a B20? you should look into it as Im guessing you compete in 1.6-2.0L class.

Thats what I would do if I was gonna build a race engine.

Whens your next round?

[Genghis]

Well you got me there. Yes a B20 is something I have looke at (sleeved B18) but that is probably for next years championship.

All we want to do this year is make up the gap that I give away to the really light cars in the 'drag stakes'. Handling wise the teg is great. We are punching above our weight now but the sponsors have asked what do we need to do to be in contention to bring some Silverware home from the last two rounds or the Nationals so I told them! :)

There is still plenty of room to make up some time in the driving (there always is) but I do know where we are from a motor point of view compared to some of the front running cars.

Next round Septeber 12 - Wakefield Park

[Genghis]

Hey everyone. Wakefield park round went ok. Had some new rotors and pads on the car. We had a good field of U2L cars (about 21). Dusty during qualifying and race 1 and had trouble getting the front end to stick for most of the weekend. Anyway, we qualified 11th then finished 11th, 8th and 11th in the 3 races. Probably should have finished higher in R3 but after getting 2 cars off the line I ended up on the outside of a 3 car squeeze into turn1. Got squeezed right out and lost about 5 spots with a missed gear so it wasn't a bad effort to come back to 11th.

Anyway with 1 round to go we are 2nd in class and 6th outright so I am not too unhappy because there is plenty left in the car and me as well. Bring on Oran Park GP on the 30th of October.

Cheers

Genghis

[tinkerbell]

http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results.cgi?13/09/2009.WAKE

so 1:11's during racing - have you cracked a 1:10 at wakie ? how do you go at OPGP?

seems you need some more mumbo to catch the front-runners!

[Genghis]

Yep at my first round of the year back in april. 1:10.8

http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results.cgi?18/04/2009.WAKE.R13

I think there is a lot more to be found in the suspension set up at the moment.

1:22.5 in qualifying at OP GP. None of these times were set with new tyres. This year is all about getting the car sorted and me with it. I know it's not soley mumbo because. We did alright times at EC and Mt Panorama (nice flowing tracks). We finished 3rd at the mountain and 5th at EC in our category in the trophy races.

Cheers

Genghis

[SPEEDCORE]

If your gonna build something from scratch , have you considered doing a B20? you should look into it as Im guessing you compete in 1.6-2.0L class.

Easier said than done in 3J dude.
Would be having to go stroked B18 or face min weight penalty if going B20 block route.

[onlykillzz]

Easier said than done in 3J dude.
Would be having to go stroked B18 or face min weight penalty if going B20 block route.

according to toda the b18 block is stronger than the b20 so since he is racing you would wont a b18 block so that the thing would last......

[e240]

^ yeah, IPRA are pretty strict on 3J, I don't know of any variations in the 3J rules either.

[Genghis]

Yes sleeved B18 is the way to go if you want a good race engine for this level of racing (i.e we are not talking about BTCC budgets :D).

I look at it another way as well. The guy who will probably win the championship this year is driving an 1800 Integra so using him as the current benchmark, I know it is not just motor improvements that will get me to the front (or at least level to him) You have to treat the entire thing as a 'system' otherwise you chace your tail and spend lots of money.

When I say system that means everything from tyre sizes, camber, gears, brakes, driver etc etc. And then when you talk about the engine you are talking about another system again, induction, cams, porting, pistons etc etc.

The front running Integra has had about 3 years of development. I have only just started with this car so there is lots of fun to be had yet.

Cheers

[gambate]

Easier said than done in 3J dude.
Would be having to go stroked B18 or face min weight penalty if going B20 block route.


going for stroked b18 to avoid weight penalty = cheating:p?

[Genghis]

Well I am not exactly sure what you are on about because the capacity class is 1601 - 2000 cc. And the minimum weight is 1045 for that class (if you have replaced the head or block with one that is not the original for that car).

So considering my car weighs 1123 with me in it and there is not a lot more you can take out of the car legally then even I am going to have to find an awful lot of weight saving to get down to 1045. Our eligibility officer has said that he has never seen a late model car come close to the minimum weights.

As for cheatng well it's interpretation of the rules isn't it. Ask the 'double diffuser' boys in F1 and ask the Porsche 935 boys about 'windscreens'. The rule states,

"Where the engine block and/or head has been replaced by one of a different
design to that fitted as standard equipment for the model concerned..."

It says nothing about the capacity. In fact if you read the rules you will find that you can have a 2040cc engine and still be a 2ltr car.

Anyway the reason for the B18 block is because it is stronger end of story.

Cheers

Genghis

[tinkerbell]

Yep at my first round of the year back in april. 1:10.8

I think there is a lot more to be found in the suspension set up at the moment.


nice,

and yeah - the chassis is an ongoing search for the best setup!

thennnn you try to get more power... :thumbsup:

[SPEEDCORE]

Our eligibility officer has said that he has never seen a late model car come close to the minimum weights.


That old can of worms eh? ;)

Takes some guts to still persevere with getting an LM car onto the grid... given the weight disadvantages with no scope in the rules to drop significant amounts of weight from things like hanging panels and glass.

Look forward to seeing this car evolve...

[tinkerbell]

BTW - where are the pics!?!?

[Genghis]

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There you go guys. Oh yes I will make a bold 'goal' here and say that if we stick with this car for next season I would like to see a < 1:09.50 in race trim at Wakefield.

Ok 'its out there now! :)

Cheers

Genghis

[tinkerbell]

next season I would like to see a < 1:09.50 in race trim at Wakefield.

quoted! :thumbsup:

[Genghis]

Hi gang, just thought I would give you the update. Last round of the state championships today and the 2nd last meeting ever at Oran Park.

Pretty sure I wrapped up 2nd place for U2L 1600-1800 Late Model so I am pretty happy with that. I would also hazzard a guess that I finished 6th outright for the season in the U2L as well.

So considering we pretty much have a 3E car with a fair bit of development available to it to make it a proper 3J things look pretty good for 2010.

Now the other thing to keep in mind for next year is that there will be 3 very fast Proconcept Civics back in the field (2 today), 1 very fast Civic (Master Toda), the Silvia the SSS the Corolla etc. So let's not get too excited with predictions but asside from a little bit more power (to stay in front of the old light cars), there is a lot of time to made up in my car in the handling stakes.

It just doesn't feel 'sure footed' enough but hey I haven't begun to work on the suspension and set up.

Anyway, as promised there is the update and it looks like I brought some silverware home for the sponsors. :thumbsup:

Cheers

Genghis