ED6 The Saga Continues

[tseesinngwailo]

Hi All,

The following is a little scary, but I only have Shogun to blame,

I recently put my ED6 run-around project up for sale as it got to a point where I went nuts, an EG Auto box with D15B7 wont fit, the gearbox is bigger than the ED box, and it looked like I would need to cut into the chassis and bits to make it fit, but Shogun and Peter have convinced me to keep going...

DAMN YOU GUYS

Anyway, here are a few pictures, the last two show what I did tonight when I got home, I pulled the whole lot OUT again, no fun on a slightly sloping driveway by myself.

Hopefully this coming weekend I will get the ED6 auto box from someone and put it all back in, standard mounts again woo!

Then the nightmare of wiring the ECU and stuff up, oh what fun

The last two pictures show the gearbox I have, its labelled S24A, and my original box was marked L24 (from memory)

Any ideas Peter?

Cheers

Tseesinn Gwailo

Poor little car, it's done 285,000Klm's
http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/DSC02922.sized.jpg

But this is one of the best looking little hatches Honda have produced..
http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/DSC02923.sized.jpg

This shows the auto box hitting the chassis on the drivers side, and its not even in the right position yet
http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/DSC02924.sized.jpg

Looking down onto the gearbox, can see how close
http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/DSC02925.sized.jpg

Using the original mount, it kinda fits, but not good enough
http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/DSC02926.sized.jpg

Engine is in, looks good, shame its not a B16A and 5 speed with LSD (sigh)
http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/DSC02927.sized.jpg

Not much space to work on the passenger side, will move the car once the engine
and box are back in and mechanically connected, then its just wiring and tidy up
http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/DSC02929.sized.jpg

Look, its flying
http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/DSC02930.sized.jpg

Love the interior, int's actually in really good condition, and I have a JDM Double Din stereo with
Cd and Mini-Disc player to be installed once the car is running
http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/DSC02931.sized.jpg

Funky flat black blades? will be stripped and made nice and shiny, the car is not EMO
http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/DSC02932.sized.jpg

And now because of Shogun, have pulled the whole damn thing back out
http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/DSC02933.sized.jpg

The gearbox is marked S24A
http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/DSC02934.sized.jpg

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

IF your wife throws you out of the house I have a couch and place for you to stay :)

[tseesinngwailo]

She's in Hong Kong with Holly, Thats why I can stuff round on the car, but I still have to do heaps of other crap before they get back, so I need this car on the road by Sept 10

And maybe if that looks do-able, will be selling the DA just before then.

Cheers, Tseesinngwailo

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

I know but if its still there when she/you guys get back....mmm...


If you need a hand between Peter and Ben (we can watch :p) it should get done (for a small fee? :p)

[tseesinngwailo]

Well, at least the engine and box are back out, with a bit of luck I will have it all back in by Sat night, then the descent into wiring-hell......

[Red_EG4]

http://myspacecomedy.com/images/funny/you-can-do-it.jpg

[tseesinngwailo]

http://myspacecomedy.com/images/funny/you-can-do-it.jpg

hahahaha, big LOL on Rob

Cheers

Tseesinngwailo

[Webby_roller]

Hey man, i dont know how much of a help this may be... But i had the D15b Vtec motor in my ED and it was running the original carby gearbox....

It fit like it would an original motor and gearbox... if your plan doesn't work mabey that could be another option for you to look at???

I am unsure if the D15b vtec gearbox would of fit cuase i bought it like that... But the person that did the swap is on this forum so you may be able to pm him (revjunkie) i believe that is him...

although he may of only bout the motor and not the gearbox aswell... Oh well, good luck with it mate....

[tseesinngwailo]

Hey Webby_roller
The car was a D15B4 with auto when I got it, and I am putting in a D15B7 from a 94 EG.
I do have the original box that came out of the car, but its not happy working on cold mornings, it sticks in 1st gear, and a few mechanics have said it will be way too expensive to fix.
The auto box I was using (and wanted to stay auto as this is a run-around) was from a 94 EG, its definately bigger (hope to have comparison pics by the weekend) and the mounts are all over the place compared to the original box.
Hopefully the gearbox I am getting on the weekend will solve all my issues in 1 go, all standard mounts.
I think a manual swap will have no issues as most of the manual boxes seem to be better off for mounting points, and probably size too.
Cheers, Tseesinngwailo

[EK1.6LCIV]

Ill be in town to see this :)

[tseesinngwailo]

Ill be in town to see this :)

Feel free to drop round hahaha happy to show my pain :)

Will you have the Domokun stickers with you?????

[EK1.6LCIV]

Feel free to drop round hahaha happy to show my pain :)

Will you have the Domokun stickers with you?????

excellent :)

I will have them forsure :)

[tseesinngwailo]

OK, so heres what Saturday did to me..

First up I went over to Peters to see the Blue Flash! Its such an awesome car, sounds great, and was lots of fun shooting up the road (I am the first Ozhonda passenger!)
http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/Peters_blue_flash.sized.jpg

Peter was fantastic, he helped me out with an auto box he was pulling from one of his project ED's, and I had a twin-gearbox DA9 for a while, reminded me of my Alfa GTV as they had the rear mounted gearbox
http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/gearbox_in_boot.sized.jpg

So, after getting home and unloading, it was around 4pm and time to start work
http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/4pm_start_work.sized.jpg

As a comparison, here are the two boxes, the EG is the one on the left, I did some measuring, its around 25mm longer (engine to end) and 50mm wider Firewall to front of car) so its no wonder I had issues, its amazing what a small amount of length can do
http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/gearbox_comparison1.sized.jpg

http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/gearbox_comparison2.sized.jpg

http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/gearbox_comparison3.sized.jpg

Finally after a couple of hours stuffing round, the engine is in
http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/Engine_In_4_mounts.sized.jpg

http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/Engine_In_4_mounts2.sized.jpg

Then it was just a bit of mucking around to get the mounts lining up, and now the engine and box are back in and all happy to have 4 mounts again
http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/Engine_In_4_mounts2.sized.jpg

Around 8pm, cold as hell outside and everything is in, tomorrow I have to just put the axels back in, and the gear selector cable, and its WIRING HELL time
http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/8pm_finished.sized.jpg

Does anyone have a picture of the spacers I assume are under the injector rail?
http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/injector_rail_spacers.sized.jpg

Cheers
TseesinnGwailo

[jdm_b16a]

Hey Chris, I couldn't have done what you did! Home from my place and got it all in same day. Excellent work. That's dedication.

I was a bit stiff and sore after yesterday's engine pull but it had to be done sooner or later. Your need of an auto box kick-started my next project!

D15B4 out of the ED6:

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s40/infotechplus/EFHonda/IMG_0217-1.jpg

Torque converter. Never seen one of these on an Honda before.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s40/infotechplus/EFHonda/IMG_0218-1.jpg

I removed the original bonnet and replaced it with the one I got off Acclude. First step.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s40/infotechplus/EFHonda/IMG_0219-1.jpg

OOhhh now I got an empty engine bay to play with:

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s40/infotechplus/EFHonda/IMG_0220.jpg

Good luck Chris and if you need help with the wiring let me know. I got plenty of wiring diagrams now. :cool:

[I'll transfer these photos to my new build thread soon along with some other stuff I found on the little Civic]

Peter

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

Good Stuff Chris!!!

[jdm_b16a]

My research shows some info on this box Chris:

Description:
4 Speed Automatic Transmission, FWD

Fits:
1997 Honda Del Sol
1996 Honda Del Sol
1995 Honda Del Sol
1994 Honda Del Sol
1993 Honda Del Sol

Part Number: M24A
TAG ID: M24A, S24A
Speed: 4 Speed Automatic Transmission
Drive: FWD

The S24A designation means it was manufactured in Honda's Suzuka plant (as opposed to an S20/M24A which would have been built in Hamamatsu.

Ratios are

1st: 2.6
2nd: 1.393
3rd: .975
4th: .772

final: 4.333

Very confusing as I also found the S24A fitted B Series engines like these photos I found in NZ:

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s40/infotechplus/EFHonda/96075497_full.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s40/infotechplus/EFHonda/96075550_full.jpg

Not much else on GOOGLE though.

Peter

[tseesinngwailo]

Hey all,

First off I must say thanks again to Peter, info like the above on the gearbox is invaluable, when I saw the B16A connected to one I thought "hhmmm, wifes EG......" but I know she would rather get a newer Civic than have me stuff round with hers hahaha

Anyone need an Auto box???? fits in EG's lol

Well, today I put the driveshafts back in, and the headers and exhaust. Got under the car and connected the gear selector cable, and the bottom torque converter cover plate. Then it was stuff around time to put the alternator, powersteer pump and aircon back in, luckily I was able to do the swap without disconnecting the aircon, so its still gassed and ready to go. Got new fanbelts from Supercheap, but I have an issue with the power steer pump, the pully is v-belt, and my crank pulley is ribbed-belt (grooved?)so now have to see if I can swap the PS wheel, as I dont want to do the crank-pulley.

I need the spacers for the injector rail, so if anyone has a set, PM me, same goes for an ECU to engine bay loom for an EG (Auto if thats critical)

Put the bonnet back on to stop the rain getting in, as only the engine bay is under the carport, but maybe tomorrow night I can drop the car back to the ground as I have now finished everything mechanical that needs to be done, I only have to mount an ext fuel pump, filter, and then start WIRING HELL

I was a bit lazy with this swap as I didn't take the radiator out, but next time I will pull the car apart more, I saw that made things much easier when Peter was doing it.

Hope to make a big start on the wiring later in the week, but It won't be as pretty as Peters end product, I just want mine running ASAP, then the DA has to be sold.

Cheers

Chris

[jdm_b16a]

I have an issue with the power steer pump, the pulley is v-belt, and my crank pulley is ribbed-belt (grooved?)so now have to see if I can swap the PS wheel, as I dont want to do the crank-pulley

No need Chris.

Go to Auto One at Seven Hills Shopping Plaza and get them to order you in a BOSCH Ribbed V-belt. They are about the only people in western Sydney willing (or able) to order this from BOSCH. See post #278 for info.

This belt (3PK790) has a V profile but with the required grooves in it to match up both ends. Saves you swapping things out. Just check that the length is the same as yours - the one I got you have to extend the power steering arm out to its full length for it to be tight but it does work.

Peter

[tseesinngwailo]

Thanks Peter, will have a look for that belt, could be easier than canging the pulley..

I have a list of little bits and pieces I need, will go to PnP and have a look this week, need a DA9 throttle cable, the original has to be bent to much to fit, and a wiring loom from ECU to injector loom plugs, injector rail spacers, that kind of stuff, but at least mechanically it's all back together.

That place we know is cutting up an EF9 in a few weeks, B16A halfcut!!! should ask them to look for other fun bits :)

Cheers

Tired Tseesinngwailo

[VTi_b0i]

wow good work guys! so is that my auto box from the ED that i gave to Peter? :p kool that my car has now helped 2 people out :D and that peter will now start on it as i never had the chance :(

[tseesinngwailo]

wow good work guys! so is that my auto box from the ED that i gave to Peter? :p kool that my car has now helped 2 people out :D and that peter will now start on it as i never had the chance :(

Yeah, I think so, but thats the idea right, we all help each other and Honda becomes the dominant car manufacturer worldwide :)

I just cant wait to finish so I have a fun little run-around before I get my next car, and once I move house next year one of these will be my next build project

http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/Honda_S800_S600.jpg

Must prepare wife with lots of wine before this aquisition lol

[VTi_b0i]

hahha yeahh im heaps happy knowing my car went to a good home and is going to be a project just as i wanted but never could :( lol and im heaps happy that the parts Peter doesnt need get to go to people that need them such as urself :D

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

That place we know is cutting up an EF9 in a few weeks, B16A halfcut!!! should ask them to look for other fun bits :)

Cheers

Tired Tseesinngwailo

:eek::zip:

I-WANT!

BTW, good to see there is little left for you :p

[VTi_b0i]

off topic but isaw u 2day shogun... at that portugese chicken place... i was the white guy standing there waiting by the wall... i didnt realise it was u till i saw u lean forward for sumthin and i saw ur tat on ur arm lol

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

off topic but isaw u 2day shogun... at that portugese chicken place... i was the white guy standing there waiting by the wall... i didnt realise it was u till i saw u lean forward for sumthin and i saw ur tat on ur arm lol

hahahahaha-

Frangos.

Dude, there was a massive crowd of people, alot white.

haahahaha, Next time you see me give me a shout man :p

I work @ the Modern building directly across the road.

[tseesinngwailo]

See Shogun? This has all been caused by YOU!!! I should make you come and wire this up blindfolded while I jab you with a sharp bit of wood...

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

BUT you wanted to do this, I'm just your sub-conscious.

[tseesinngwailo]

Shogun, I hope you are not my sub-concious...

I have a WTB thread as I am going to need bits to finish this off.
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=117110

Will go to PnP tomorrow to get a loom and fuel filter, but still need an external pump for now until my EF9 tank with pump arrives from Japan.

Will be doing some wiring tomorrow and hope I can at least get the car to crank, the wiring could get a bit messy to start with..

Cheers
Tseesinngwailo

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

bwuahahahahhaaha.

I lost my license....



And the Car got defected....

GG, looks like I'll be working on the new shell soon and doing a conversion...

[tseesinngwailo]

bwuahahahahhaaha.
I lost my license....
And the Car got defected....

GG, looks like I'll be working on the new shell soon and doing a conversion...
You WHAT???? what were you doing? and after your epic QLD trip, well, on a good note, I can supply you lots of advise on a swap hahaha

Now I can get some back! You new shell wont be happy until its a MOTUL replica :)

Hmmm, now theres an idea for my next car.... nah, the S600 is my dream, a sunny day, the roof down, wind in my.. oh wait...

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

You WHAT???? what were you doing?

Nothing stupid Chris, had a missing p-plate.

Was driving my sister home from the shops ffs.

Car isn't getting un-defected, what is going to happen was going to happen in november anyway


Now I can get some back! You new shell wont be happy until its a MOTUL replica :)

no, but it will be satisfied with British Racing Green :thumbsup:

[tseesinngwailo]

Hi All,

Well, I now have a fueltank with an EK injection fuel pump installed, I followed Peter's great build thread, and very carefully drilled my tank.

I will post pics later tonight and more info on what I have been doing, but have had major wiring issues.
Wiring help thread is here, I hope someone can help!
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2406911#post2406911

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

Go Chris!!!!!!!!

[tseesinngwailo]

Hey All,

Well, here is what I have been up to lately...

DISCLAIMER: Just because I did this and didn't blow myself up, doesn't mean it can't happen to you, OZHONDA and myself hold NO RESPONSIBILITY for DIY work you perform using instructions you find on this forum.

Seeing as I was having a bugger of a time finding a tank with fuel injection pump (like a CRX) I decided to do what Peter did and drill mine..

I went to Pick-n-Payless and found an EG pump that Peter was good enough to pull out and leave on the back seat (thanks Peter) and on a return trip found a newer EK so took the pump out of it.

Grabbed the wiring loom from the ECU to the engine bay and injector loom, a genuine Honda jack (with bag) and a throttle cable, also found a good condition set of mudflaps (F + R) for my DA Teg too!

My little haul of bits

http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/PnP_haul.sized.jpg

I needed a jack for the car, found this shiny one, just need to spot a handle now

http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/genuine_jack.sized.jpg

The EK pump, really good condition

http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/EK_pump.sized.jpg

The mudflaps, should be on by this weekend

http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/teg_mudflaps.sized.jpg

So, then I got started and pulled the tank out, then washed with soapy water (car wash soap) dried, and then washed again

http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/dirty_tank_out.sized.jpg

Marked the hole using the gasket as a guide

http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/hole_marked.sized.jpg

Drilled the first hole
http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/first_hole.sized.jpg

The EK pump and the foamy stuff used to fill my tank with soapy water

http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/pump_foamy_stuff.sized.jpg

Then used a jigsaw to cut the hole, was more worried about the water/electricity thing than the fuel vapour, kept the tank full of soapy water to lessen the chances of fuel vapour problems

http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/pump_hole_done.sized.jpg

Theres always time for VITA

http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/stop4vita.sized.jpg

Dried out the tank again

http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/tank_drying.sized.jpg

Put the bolts in, using copper washers on the inside of the tank to seal the bolts, and threadlock on the outside to help make sure they dont come loose..

http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/pump_bolts.sized.jpg

The pump in and looking factory lol

http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/pump_in.sized.jpg

The mess of piping from the fuel tank,

http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/tank_piping.sized.jpg

Connected 2 of the lines together as they wouldnt be needed now I have the other pump in place

http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/lines_bypassed.sized.jpg

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

Good stuff :)

[tseesinngwailo]

I had a lip on my 91 DA Teg front bar, which I found matches perfectly to the ED front, only problem is that the sides are longer, something that a hacksaw should be able to fix easily enough.. some of the bolt holes across the front fit too, this is an easy upgrade

http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/da_on_ed_lip1.sized.jpg

http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/da_on_ed_lip2.sized.jpg

This is the difference with the sides, the small gap you can see is just me holding the side up, it does actually pull into place and the profile matches perfectly, the width and radius are the same as the Teg, no cut in the middle either :)

http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/da_lip_longer.sized.jpg

[tseesinngwailo]

Next problem was the gasket I had for the throttlebody, I was not in the mood to have to go back to Supercheap, so grabbed some cardboard and made a gasket for now

http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/gasket1.sized.jpg

http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/gasket_finished.sized.jpg

http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/gasket_in_place.sized.jpg

[tseesinngwailo]

OK, the story so far..

I have had major wiring issues this week (like Peter lol) and thanks to Ben, CRXer, and ECU-Man (and special mention to Pete for letting me come over and browse his document collection) have now finally got the car running, but in doing so found that a litire or 2 of 2Stroke petrol in my tank makes for an amazing smokescreen haha, when i was filling the tank, I used one of my mower gerrycans that had a litre or more of 2stroke mix in it..

I have since drained the tank and started again using Shell Optimax.

http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/P06_ecu.sized.jpg

Once again over at Peters, his car helps inspire me to finish mine

http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/blue_streak1.sized.jpg

Damn thing wont start, sure I have missed some wires somewhere, turns out I had no +ve feed to the injectors, gave them some volts and now it runs well, just hunts a bit on idle, so theres always more to sort out

http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/wont_start.sized.jpg

While cranking to find out why it wouldnt start, disaster struck, it was at this point I realised there should have been an oil pressure sender unit screwed in... and as HappySlip's dad would say.. "disasteeerrrr" (youtube her lol)

http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/disasterrrr.sized.jpg

Then my second disaster, i was using a socket and handle on the end of the crank to turn the engine to check distributor alignment, and forgot to take it off before cranking the car again, there was a big bang and I realised i forgot to take the socket and handle off the crank bolt, the cranking force was enough to crack my favourite 17mm socket, I felt like a goose...

http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/disaster2.sized.jpg

[tseesinngwailo]

Woohoo, drove the car today, about 10 feet forward and back lol, but its getting there.
Also started cutting the hole in the firewall so I can put the ECU loom in where it should be.
Still covering the neighborhood in smoke, i drained the tank and started again with 20 litres of Shell Optimax, and put some injector cleaner in tonight, hopefully over the weekend i can get this sorted, dont want it smokey for the blueslip check

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

Go Chris Go, GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CHRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS

[tseesinngwailo]

Hi All,

I now have 2 PGMFI relays

http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/PGFM_relays1.sized.jpg

http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/PGFM_Relays2.sized.jpg

They both appear to have the same numbering on the pins (and location) but can anyone give me a good diagram to show what wires should go where? I think 2 of the pins have 2 wires each off them. I am not sure if these have different connections to the numbers on each relay

Thanks
Chris

[tseesinngwailo]

I now have my loom going inside the car, it was a bugger trying to cut the hole as I didnt want to pull the whole dash out just to cut it, so with a stepping drill-bit and some right proper bastards (files that is) drilled some holes, cut what I could with a hand-hacksaw, then filed the rest..

This is the messy part before I started

http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/wiring_mess_engine_bay.sized.jpg

This is the hole, it comes through just behind the fan-blower unit, and then the loom goes straight down to where the ECU will mount.

http://gallery.2dingos.com.au/albums/RedFlash/loom_hole_cutting.sized.jpg

I have cut the sides of my front lip, just a few screws and thats that..

Just have to finish the wiring, get an exhaust off Trism, then car should be right to go for blue slip

[VTECnique]

your build gives me inspriation to build an injected ED...

[tseesinngwailo]

your build gives me inspriation to build an injected ED...
Haha, well, between me and Peter's awesome build, you should be able to find all the info needed, if it's going to be manual, will be heaps easier as the later model EG boxes should fit, I lost a lot of time trying to shoehorn the EG auto box in, only to find it wont fit without some cutting and rewelding the body of the car, not really worth in the end.

I think if I do this again, will be heaps easier, as I have gained a lot of knowledge, and I think if you start with a JDM halfcut, would be really simple, that way you have wiring, mounts and pretty much everything.

Cheers
Chris

[EK1.6LCIV]

mmmmm looking good mate :)

[tseesinngwailo]

I spent another day on the car today, but I just kept going backwards, then a mate turned up and talked and talked for a while, so rather than concentrating, kept trying to remember what I was doing!

I mounted the fuel filter, used some 6mm nutserts, which saved me opening up the vent at the bottom of the windscreen, but not having a proper tool, took me a while to work out how to fix them onto the firewall.

Replaced the earth wire from the chassis to the head, but it took a trip to both Super Cheap and Jaycar just to get lugs and cable.. I can't believe what a crap range they have at SuperCheap, so many things on the shelves are just vacant, they should lift their game, I think I will give all my business to Repco..

Wired the ECU and the PGFM relay, only temporary again, but at least its all inside the car now, I was even able to use the ECU fuse in the engine bay fusebox, theres a plug that supplies the hazard lights, air-con relay and something elese, but the ECU terminal is missing, so took a terminal out of another plug I had, soldered and crimped a new wire to it, and now have a proper fused supply to my PGFM relay.

Will try and get the exhaust I got off Trism in tomorrow, unfortunately it will need some welding (it was cut off the previous car) but that wont hold me up too much.

Will maybe give it a wash too, its such a mess right now.

I only have 2 weeks left to get it finished and registered, so have to get moving on it.

Cheers
Tseesinngwailo

[jdm_b16a]

I can't believe what a crap range they have at SuperCheap, so many things on the shelves are just vacant, they should lift their game, I think I will give all my business to Repco.

Chris, I've arranged for The Enforcer to come 'round your place and kick your jack stands out from under your car next time you're working on it. :angel:

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s40/infotechplus/racing/enforcer-1.jpg

Good to see you're making some progress though.

Peter

[tseesinngwailo]

He can come around, but I will defeat him with my JDM martial arts

Rice Rice Baby.....

Both Nth Parramatta and Norwest SuperCheap are driving me nuts, and when I asked about how long until they get some new packets of screws to replace the ones that have been missing for weeks, they say "oh, 2 weeks or so"

AAAAGGGHHHH

I just gave the car a quick wash on the windows and bonnet, its filthy, but my main aim today is just get the wiring correct, and get the car back on stands so I can pull the exhasut off

Cheers
Tseesinngwailo

[trism]

:D

oh man i miss my civic. its sitting here all neglected and shit :(

one day i will build an injected ED.

[jdm_b16a]

:One day i will build an injected ED.

Not if you're smart, you won't! Either that, or you're a glutton for punishment!

Peter

[tseesinngwailo]

Well, today started off well, I went and saw Peter as I needed help welding the exhaust I got off Trism, and trying to work out the wiring from the ED fusebox, (Thanks again Peter, your help is very appreciated)

But on returning home, thats when it ALL WENT TO HELL...

I was able to get everything wired up, and it was working perfectly, then I decided to tidy up a few wires in the engine bay, and came across the original ignition coil supply, which I thought would be good to connect to the new coil rather than the way I had just connected a line straight to the +ve on the battery, whcih is what I did to test the wiring.

But after I connected things up, the car started and ran for a few secs, then died, and now it will crank but wont kick..

I have looked through the fuses and stuff, but then it got dark and I just gave up

GRRRR

Not the way I had expected the day to end....

Too cold and dark to start working on installing the exhaust too, just hope I havent blown the ECU up... The PGFM relay doesnt seem to be getting a signal from the ECU, I have to trace things out again

Cheers
Tseesinngwailo

[tseesinngwailo]

OK, looks like my PGMFI relay had a bad solder joint, I took the cover off it and re-soldered all the connections, and plugged it back in at midnight to test, this time I got the fuel pump priming, so it looks like the car will start when i get home.

I still want to use the original black/yellow stripe cable that went to my ignition coil, but want to make sure thats right, it may have just been a coincidence that the relay had issues when I connected it up the first time.

Once the car starts again I can move it to where it will go up on stands so I can do the exhaust.

This is really a "1 step forward, 2 steps back" kinda progress

2 weeks left, hope I can get it registered by then..

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

Chris I'm so happy its all finally coming together man :)

If you need a hand man I'm always free now that I'm unemployed lol (just need you to pick me up from a station)

[tseesinngwailo]

Actually Lloyd, the best you could assist would be a venting board hahaha, I have been venting a lot about everything thats not going right and my whole double-handling of things, but yeah, thanks for the offer :)

I put the exhaust from Trism on, Peters welding job made things exactly how they should be, but still need a pipe clamp for the rear pipe to muffler connection, went to Supercheap Norwest today, and of course the one i needed was out of stock, so I asked the friendly (bored) staff about it, and they said that one wont ever be ordered in again (AAAGHHH) hopefully Repco might come to the party tonight, I mean gee, if I want a bunch of air-freshners or DVD's of Brock (mysteriously minus his Ford Sierra and BMW years) I should be right, like cars have exhausts right? or is it that people all pay others to fix stuff now?

Anyway, vent out of the way haha, the exhaust was a very neat affair, and bigger diameter than the OEM, but didnt have a middle resonator, not sure but the car seemed a hell of a lot louder than I had hoped, it's a nice note, but may not win favours with the neighbors on early morning starts, oh well, not sure how long I will be driving this until the next Type R lands in my driveway (or I decide I am old and get a Legend)

Tonight I have to tighten a few nuts, cabletie the aircon hose away from the headers, and connect the ignition wire to where I hope i can put it, then maybe go for a quick up and down the road, but i think there may be a tiny water leak (maybe like Peter had) so who knows.

The various bits of interior need putting back too, but maybe after all that it will be blue slip time yay!

Oh, still have the hunting issues with idle, doesnt do it when i put in Drive, so not sure what that issue is, but only have 1 week before i have to give up, so really hope the car can be finished in time, though it's also becoming a matter of cashflow too..

Anyway, wish me luck
Cheers
Chris

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

Actually Lloyd, the best you could assist would be a venting board hahaha, I have been venting a lot about everything thats not going right and my whole double-handling of things, but yeah, thanks for the offer :)

Offer stands all the same man.

You be my venting board and I'll be yours back :p

Chris, does it idle hunt after its warmed up?


Anyway, vent out of the way haha, the exhaust was a very neat affair, and bigger diameter than the OEM, but didnt have a middle resonator, not sure but the car seemed a hell of a lot louder than I had hoped, it's a nice note, but may not win favours with the neighbors on early morning starts, oh well, not sure how long I will be driving this until the next Type R lands in my driveway (or I decide I am old and get a Legend)

....go get one of the factory Turbo'd ones.

Best of both worlds :p

[CRXer]

did u end up feeding a Park/Neutral input to the ECU off the shifter?
ecu could be trying to idle compensate for the slight drag of the torque converter,when in fact the g/box is not in gear.

[tseesinngwailo]

OK, went for a few runs round the block tonight

Yes, still hunts after 10 mins of running

Nearly cut out a few times, that worried me that it would be stranded in the rain

Yes, i did run a wire temporary to gnd the park signal, doesnt seem to make a difference either way

theres other issues too, such as the gearbox allowing the car to rev up but not going anywhere, seems like its slipping, i did fill it up, but maybe its low again, was kinda disappointing as I thought i had done everything right up to this point, I dont have the downshift cable to the trottlebody yet, but i wouldnt think that would cause the gearbox to slip.

It was fun to have a quick drive, but theres no power steering as I havnt got my 3PK790 belt in yet, it seems like it will be a great little run-around if I can finish it.

On another downside, the exhaust is just too noisy, will pass rego OK I think, but I am going to get it made quieter, it's just not what I was after.

Once again, thanks for everyones input, I am sure will get it sorted, maybe not in 1 week though

Cheers
Chris

[tseesinngwailo]

Offer stands all the same man.

You be my venting board and I'll be yours back :p

Chris, does it idle hunt after its warmed up?

....go get one of the factory Turbo'd ones.

Best of both worlds :p

Thanks Lloyd, if I had any spare time left it would be cool if you could drop over, but I only have 2 free weekends left, and unless you want to help me lay pavers in my yard, haha

I wish the 2000 model Legend had a 'wing turbo" would definately buy one then haha, mind you, the more this project goes sideways, the more I am thinking about a Legend, just a shame they are not as light on fuel

Cheers
Chris

[tseesinngwailo]

OK, final "Thats IT"

massive argument with the wife

car must be sold or else

sh*t

damn, please check my thread in cars for sale, I was so close too
Looks like a Type R is out too, this has been a bad week
at least I still have the DA

Will at least get the P Steering working and terminate the wires for the ECU, but car has to go

Cheers
Chris

[jdm_b16a]

car must be sold or else

I feel your pain, Chris. Do you need to take out an AVO?

[Seriously] Sorry to hear that but I really do know how it is. My wife has mellowed over the years because she knows I'm incurable. I always say to her - "I don't drink, don't gamble, don't smoke, don't hang out at the Pub ... so ..."

Peter

[tseesinngwailo]

Haha, no, no AVO, I love my wife, and though I am in the same boat (dont drink, smoke, gamble) we are trying to pay off our house, I have a 4yr old daughter that I want to grow up with the best available, and I am off to Hong Kong in 2 weeks, so, she is right, what I thought was a simple cheap car, has got more and more expensive.

I don't want more arguments, so the car has to go, shame I will lose money on it too, but maybe some time down the track I can work on another car and use the knowledge I have learned through this one.

I would like to say thanks to all the supporters that I have had on this, (in no particular order) Ben, Shogun, Peter, Crxer, and ECU-Man, you guys have given me so much help, and this is the best example of what a forum should be, helping others get the dream car on the road.

I will always be a Honda nut, so wont be leaving the forums haha

Cheers
Chris

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

Its ok Chris, I'm sure I'm gonna need your support for my upcoming project at some stage :p