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dahon
25-07-2009, 09:04 PM
alright guys.. my stupid CVT gearbox gave out and now im in a predicament with my 98 EK civic...

option 1) get a manual(or standard auto) gearbox replacement for my trusty d16y5 engine... which i havent been quoted yet but ill be taking it to shop soon
if someone wuld quote me a rough figure thatd be cool...

option 2) get a new engine & box.. which engine? cheapest option wuld be another d16 or maybe go for a b20 (by itself)? (i cant really afford a b16 or b18) i guess but how much wuld that cost?

im pretty tight on budget atm due to some newly imposed financial constraints (which sux ballz) otherwise id buy another car.. so what u guys reckon i shuld do?
b20 + ek4 box is on the cards (thanks vinny) but where wuld i get that done around here - sydney/livo area?

chunky
25-07-2009, 09:06 PM
these days including labour and the half cut b16/b18 could cost around 5-6k

dahon
25-07-2009, 09:08 PM
what bout just a normal b20 dood like turtles build?

SHOGUNOVDDRK
25-07-2009, 09:21 PM
go to bennjamin if its a straight swap situation (buy a new gearbox or new engine and gearbox)

outatime
26-07-2009, 01:05 AM
i think a b20b8 (non vtec - 99-00 CRV) would cost about 1k.. then u need a gearbox say about another 1k..

u can let bennjamin do the install for ya

GSi_PSi
26-07-2009, 03:57 AM
Bro. dont let ppl tell u its gonna cost you 5k+
i got my b20b8 for $350 , 70,000kms with recepts. shop around wreckers.
i highly recommend benjammin for the swap, very good prices man , wont be disappointed .
you will also need a computer,gearbox, engine mounts
I rekon b20b8 with b16 gearbox would be pretty sweet

dahon
26-07-2009, 03:37 PM
thanks guys.. i see no1 supporting the new gearbox thing and go straight for the engine swap.. hehehe
so how do i go about sourcing the parts GSi? i have no car atm either... where did u get ur things done? how bout engineering and all that stuff? still newbie to this... =(

simonnowis
26-07-2009, 03:40 PM
what is ur budget? if I was in ur situation I would consider the couple of b16 swaps going for 3k.

SHOGUNOVDDRK
26-07-2009, 05:24 PM
thanks guys.. i see no1 supporting the new gearbox thing and go straight for the engine swap.. hehehe
so how do i go about sourcing the parts GSi? i have no car atm either... where did u get ur things done? how bout engineering and all that stuff? still newbie to this... =(

Well no, I think the new box is the most effective idea.

IMO why not go and get your current box redone?

bennjamin
26-07-2009, 05:25 PM
within current budget (i have been told)

look at either a manual or another auto gearbox. I would suggest a manual conversion to pep up your current car....make it alittle nicer to drive.

dahon
26-07-2009, 05:53 PM
current box which is cvt is not worth redoing im told.. i hear its ALOT of work to redo so it might aswell have another auto or manual gearbox installed...
yup considering that aswell ben, thanks for the help btw. currently trying to see what will fit into my plans and budget, hopefully i may be able to get some extra funds..

vinnY
27-07-2009, 10:15 AM
you know how i feel about it dude... do it! hahah

beeza
27-07-2009, 10:40 AM
That sounds really good,a b20 + Ek4 box!

Otherwise,just go for a manual gearbox.

Sounds good Dahon,lucky U! :)

dahon
27-07-2009, 04:46 PM
hahaha lucky/unlucky beez... no car means im suffering atm catching a train to uni in the cold cold night time =( hehehe
but if i manage a full conversion then i shall be alright with a nice daily driver... hehehe

my dads gotten me curious and also wants to know more info b4 he gives me the go ahead/ some of the money for one of the choices...
just wondering.. with a change to manual gearbox would i need a change of the cv boots, mounts, linkages etc or anything else besides plonking in a new tranny and ecu? is it 'safe'? any other problems associated with it? who knows anyone thats done it and its lasted a while?

also for b20 box i was told it wuld most likely be
b20 engine, ecu, gsi intake, ek4 box and new mounts, pedals etc but also wuld it involve changing to new linkages etc? after conversion is that it or wuld i need to do other things/spend more money u guys reckon? like the little things that come straight after the conversion that u dont realise ud need to spend on...

vinnY
27-07-2009, 07:54 PM
wouldn't you need a different IM for the b20? looks very different to any other b series i've seen. unless you mean the IM when you say 'gsi intake'
you'd probably need the shift linkage too
don't forget clutch/flywheel to go manual in either case of going to manual on the d or going to b20

GSi_PSi
27-07-2009, 08:02 PM
if u want some gsi parts , pm me . i got completee b18b2 wreckingg