B18C swap

[_bORdO_]

PUHWOAR seriouly if anyone can find a thread on this im a douche bag and please send me the link!

Im thinking on swapping my B18C for a B18C7 - i understand its not just an engine swap, i understand i will also need to buy parts to support the conversion... (please no lectures on that)

2 those who have done this my question is ;
- is it seriously worth me spending 8k+ just for the xtra 20kW or so...
- does it drive completely different?
- does it contribute to xtra torque?
- is it just plain worth it or should i use that money to turbo my car?

thanks team!

[45SET]

Would be cheaper to just buy a DC2R.

There are lots of differances between the DC2 VTi-R and the DC2R... which extend far from the engine.

Maybe look into what power you can get out of bolt ons and ECU before you look into doing and engine transplant with an engine that basically the same as the one you have at the moment... but just uses a B16 head.

[CRXer]

for everyday driving below 7krpm,the only thing that will impress u is the 98+ ITR g/box.
for the track,spending a lot of time above 7krpm,the motor will add to the fun.

[_bORdO_]

(thanks for the relocation)

yeh i guess it would be cheaper to buy a DC2R -but- ive already poured money into this model and i just cant put myself up to selling it yet.

Maybe i should just resist the temptation and save my cash for something more worth wild.

[_bORdO_]

for everyday driving below 7krpm,the only thing that will impress u is the 98+ ITR g/box.
for the track,spending a lot of time above 7krpm,the motor will add to the fun.

i understand & im more than certain i wont be taking this thing on the track.
final thought i guess is, just save my money hey ;p

[Henessaayyy]

if you're not a good driver, why get more power? if you aren't doing 13.5 down the 1/4 in your vti-r then dont bother.

[MWAKU]

if u alrdy got a b18c2, get jst a b18c head, and get a itr gear box

[_bORdO_]

Henessaayyy - just dont bother posting in here if your going to spam and not be helpful, if you read my previous post im not planning on taking my car to the track.
Unless your illiterate, you would realise this thread is not directed at how good my driving skills are.

MWAKU - thank you for your constructive input, ill take that into consideration.

[Henessaayyy]

Henessaayyy - just dont bother posting in here if your going to spam and not be helpful, if you read my previous post im not planning on taking my car to the track.
Unless your illiterate, you would realise this thread is not directed at how good my driving skills are.

MWAKU - thank you for your constructive input, ill take that into consideration.

lol, have a sook why dont you...
why do you want more power? to go faster right?
what aspects come into play when you want to go fast? the power of your car, the way you drive and the conditions...

you're giving me attitude because you know im right and you thought about it, so now you realise you're not a great driver.

if it makes you feel better, i withdraw my post and take back what i said. go spend your 8k on an irrelevant engine swap.

[RR-04-RR]

hey man

would you prefer turbo or stay N/A?
i cchanged my mind over and over again.. i decided to stay N/A.. lol

do yuo plan on dragging or tracking this car at all??

yeah B18c7 head fitted would be sweet... as the cams.. and also the intake can make a bit of a difference.. good set of headers, intake and exhaust and a ECU+tune would be enough power

[GSi_PSi]

slapping on a B18C7 head would be waste of money and a half. Might aswell put the money into aftermarket cams,valve train etc see much better gains. ITR parts arent that much greater of an upgrade compared to aftermarket Toda, Skunk2 etc

[MWAKU]

true, or you can slap on the head and do the aftermarket parts to the c7 instead of the c2 :P

[02gzm]

Would be more cost effective to just to raise the compression, whack in a decent set of cams, get an ITR LSD gearbox and an aftermarket ECU.

Then do the suspension when you get more dosh

[V73C]

mate dont be stupid, just pour the cash one the current engine, whats the use of a stock ITR motor to a modified motor thats kinda almost the same

[aussiemale]

100km/hr speed limit!!!!

[sangyz]

100km/hr speed limit!!!!

lol :thumbsup:

[_bORdO_]

henessayyy - wow! your notorious for useless posts :thumbdwn:

RR-04-RR - ive always thought about turbo:thumbsup: but man so many hidden cost with that upgrade, i cant afford the headaches you know (wish i was getting paid more)
But then again, and like most other people here, im very enthusiastic about making my car and all round machine

*side thought* maybe its worth it then?

Gsi Psi - im not disagreeing with you -but- im half way there... all i need now is a light.fly and tuned for a lower final gear. that pretty much covers all the options you gave you know? and im stil not happy with it :eek:

this is why i came to the conclusion that maybe its just the motor in my car that isnt capitalising on these new upgrades.

[GSi_PSi]

Well then go all out Swap in B20 Block, Get some RS Machine ITR pistons, Slap in ur VTi-R head with modified cams and get a Better Gearbox FD. You will be making pretty decent power.

[VTec1987]

Well then go all out Swap in B20 Block, Get some RS Machine ITR pistons, Slap in ur VTi-R head with modified cams and get a Better Gearbox FD. You will be making pretty decent power.

totally agree with him
then you wont have to spend up to 8k

[_bORdO_]

Well then go all out Swap in B20 Block, Get some RS Machine ITR pistons, Slap in ur VTi-R head with modified cams and get a Better Gearbox FD. You will be making pretty decent power.

interesting.
gonna ask my mech about that.
thanks.

[GSi_PSi]

depending on the headwork. you will be making k20 sorta power. with out the extra $$$

[MikeyG]

i highly doubt you would be making 150kw k20 power...

but regarding your question its useless going c7... if anything i would do these on your vti-r

*getting bigger cam, cam gears, valve springs, retainers
*itbs
*better flow exhaust from headers to axle back
*type r gearbox with better clutch and lighter flywheel

or a b20/vtec setup

* b20b8 bottom end
* since you got vtir, use the vtir cams and cam gears, use your gearbox but with better clutch and flywheel
* itbs
* s300 with tune
* 2.5 straight thru exhaust
* prob 130atw BUT since you got a b20 its the torque you got to think aswell :):)

[sinseven]

you will not be making k20 power lol

and for a b20 under 8k its stock...

if you want to have a powerful b20v you need to change all the internals and get it sleeved then your in business (more stuff would need to be added obviously) but i prefer new stuff not b18c internals....

[GSi_PSi]

I said with Headwork, RS machine ITR pistons, and a better ratio Gbox you will be making K20 sorta power.
Zeforce made 132kw with his B20, Stock VTiR head, Stock pistons.
My mate made 152Kw with his B20, VTi-R head, Skunk2 Cams+Valve Train, RS machine Pistons, ITR Gearbox.
8 Grand Budget is heaps for a B20 Build.. Just need to know the right places.

[sinseven]

not with it tonight but yeah you are right with the right stuff and tune you can pull good numbers.

but like many people say its not about the power it makes its what it can do down the 1/4 mile!

[Wace]

lol if ur after a 20kw gain why not just mod ur car instead, get ur self some toda camz and ur set. if your willing to spend 8k try looking into something more like a b20 or k24, make some awseom power that way

[aussiemale]

Hey Guys 100km/hr limit!!