View Full Version : Rolling Lipping Flaring gaurds?
i got my 18's on my s about 2 weeks ago.. when i hit a bump it scrubs and screaches.. i realised today that my front L&RHS Fender lip area is bulging out.. hard to explain but i think you guys know what i mean..
where can i get my gaurds rolled or flared so that it still keeps the lip and make it sit nice n flush n even again..
the guy at the tire shop didn't tell me anything about clearance issues or anything.. so yeah.
thanks
JAP-S2K
03-08-2009, 11:19 PM
Yeah, this is common.
You can take it to any panel beater to get it done properly, my pref is Nathans Smash in Mcgraths Hill, they do an excellent job, i've also heard Panel 1 do an excellent job.
Useing a guard rolling tool will more than likely crack the paint and you'll be stuck getting them painted anyway.
..any idea on a rough price? should i bother doing the rears aswell or just the front.. the rears seem to be fine atm..
JAP-S2K
03-08-2009, 11:36 PM
Approx $350 for rolling, a corner. And about $500 if you want to pumped them a little. 8-10mm is possible from the factory guards before they start getting flimsy. Probably a good idea to do the rears as well. I know it sounds a little a pricey, however seen many a destroyed guards from guard rolling tools when it goes wrong.
shhhiettt.. not cheap.. anyway.. thx mate.. i'll take a further look into that.. also.. any major problems if i leave it the way it is for too long? tire or guard wise?
vyets
03-08-2009, 11:47 PM
WTF $350 a corner thats heaps. most people only charge about $50 lol.
Or you can DIY it if you know someone with a guard roller :P That's how I did mine, its ghetto az!
The fronts sound fair enough, as you going to have to pump em out abit most likely you will need to respray em. Rear is a easy job and should be no more then $50 a corner.
JAP-S2K
03-08-2009, 11:50 PM
yeah, usually they catch the edge of the guard, like when going in and out of driveways. And your left with ghetto guards. I've had this happen twice. As the guard roller didn't do roll them enough. Hence why IMO i'm saying to get it done properly.
so pumping front = most likely respray..
is there a possible way of gettin out of this problem.. got my tires from tempe.. think they 18x 7.5 or 8 to my memory, not too sure.. but i do remember he bashed in a spacer behind the wheel before he put it in.. should i take out the front spacers and just fix up the bulges on the front? or not a wise move..
any problems if i dont do anything and i just leave it?
alvin_R
04-08-2009, 12:22 AM
so if i running 7.5/225 front and 8.5/245 rear, can i just do a negative camber instead of rolling the guard??
JAP-S2K
04-08-2009, 07:29 AM
Yeah negative camber will help, tyre size isn't your issue, rim offset is. What offset are your rims
JMSBND
04-08-2009, 07:46 AM
WTF $350 a corner thats heaps. most people only charge about $50 lol.
Or you can DIY it if you know someone with a guard roller :P That's how I did mine, its ghetto az!
The fronts sound fair enough, as you going to have to pump em out abit most likely you will need to respray em. Rear is a easy job and should be no more then $50 a corner.
Your man did a great job on mine. 225 front/255 rear 17x8 and 17x9 +45 offset. Not even done the camber yet and it all works. Amazed how much they could roll them. Even kept the front guard liner.
I am only lowered on Eibach pro springs so not crazy low or tucking or anything.
Pumping guards out is when it gets pricey though.
vyets
04-08-2009, 08:12 AM
so your happy with what my mate did eh :P Good stuff! Take some photos
so i can get more negative camber to save pumping? lol.. i just wanna fix the ugly bulge..
and also have enough clearance bcuz if i take a corner too hard.. the weight pushing down on the opposite side scrubs too
DNTBLO_S2k
04-08-2009, 12:22 PM
hey simmy bring it past queen st smash well have it fixed up for you, quality job wont cost much.. pm for details if you want..
alvin_R
04-08-2009, 12:56 PM
Yeah negative camber will help, tyre size isn't your issue, rim offset is. What offset are your rims
hi JAP S2K, here is my rim size: 5-114.3 18X7.5 +42 [F]
5-114.3 18X8.5 +43 [R]
cheers....:thumbsup:
aozora
04-08-2009, 03:23 PM
so your happy with what my mate did eh :P Good stuff! Take some photos
DT? :p
will a camber kit solve my problems..?
will it also solve the scrub from taking a corner quick (like weight pushing down opposite site of turn)?
if not i guess i gotta take em to a shop..
JMSBND
04-08-2009, 07:42 PM
DT? :p
Yup, DT. Cool guys and nice job. Got my boss to drop me off to pick it up. He was "hey, is this like that Fast and Furious movie?" LOL because of all the other cars in and around the shop. I said yeah mate, they actually filmed some of it in Springvale didn't you know?
........................He is 54 years old and drives a Camry.
JAP-S2K
04-08-2009, 08:16 PM
will a camber kit solve my problems..?
will it also solve the scrub from taking a corner quick (like weight pushing down opposite site of turn)?
if not i guess i gotta take em to a shop..
Camber will help but it's hard to tell without seeing it (rim to guard clearance). The guard's lip is still square off and the chance of the tyre still catching the lip is most likely
lzybum
05-08-2009, 01:18 PM
well basically if u leave it how it is for too long...the guards will start to slowly eat away some rubber right on the outer edge of the tyre and make the bludge bigger and probli worse than how it is. same thing happened to me cuz i was running 17x9 +44s up front with 235/45 tyres. finally got it rolled and dialed in max camber for my height (about 1 finger gap?), but the fender lip wont look as clean as stock would anymore.
got all 4 corners rolled for like 30bux each with no paint cracking =D
as soon as my front tyres go, im going smaller fronts for more clearance, 225/45
vyets do mine for me :D i'll pay ! :D
aozora
05-08-2009, 06:24 PM
well basically if u leave it how it is for too long...the guards will start to slowly eat away some rubber right on the outer edge of the tyre and make the bludge bigger and probli worse than how it is. same thing happened to me cuz i was running 17x9 +44s up front with 235/45 tyres. finally got it rolled and dialed in max camber for my height (about 1 finger gap?), but the fender lip wont look as clean as stock would anymore.
got all 4 corners rolled for like 30bux each with no paint cracking =D
as soon as my front tyres go, im going smaller fronts for more clearance, 225/45
Why don't you get a lower profile? 40 instead of 45?
lzybum
06-08-2009, 12:00 AM
Why don't you get a lower profile? 40 instead of 45?
40 series will tempt me to go lower than i already am...and i dont wanna start scraping frontbar/lips and exhaust lol
so right now with those profiles and height, im safe
where abouts did you get it done? 30 bux a corner.. pretty cheap..
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